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IA, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 9:36:56 AM EDT
Recently received my griffin HRT and had some questions pertaining to muzzle devices what others who have the HRT are running.
While waiting for the suppressor I converted most of my rifles over to the dual lok tactical comp, only to find out, that while technically compatible, it’s a very, very close fit. (There is some info/measurements in another thread, as well as some comments from @Green0) This all leads me to look at the minimalist brakes and the paladin 2 port brakes. Wondering what people are running and prefer. There was discussion that with the minimalist brake, the space from the brake to the start of the blast baffle was a good thing(expansion space). While I agree with that, I was thinking the paladin offers 2 sacrificial baffles, while it does however take up space/volume. Just wondering what people’s thoughts are. Yes I’m probably way over thinking this, and understand the tactical comp will work and I won’t shoot enough to notice any wear differences, just bored and curious |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:26:01 PM EDT
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I’d assume the can was designed with a particular muzzle device. Is that known?
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:38:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Green0]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KalmanPhilter: I’d assume the can was designed with a particular muzzle device. Is that known? The can wasn't designed to be used with a particular muzzle device. We shot flash suppressors a significant amount during testing because we were putting some cans together for demonstration to a military service branch at an event- the bayonet mounts were developed as part of that, and the blank firing adapter receiving closed tine flash suppressor, but the testing also involved brakes and comps. There was no specific performance bias geared toward a particular muzzle device. The only suppressor we have that was designed to work with a specific muzzle device is the M4SD-L with the closed tine flash suppressor mount. We attempted some features to minimize muzzle flash and FRP with the closed tine flash suppressor. That doesn't however mean it works worse with any other muzzle device as far as I know, so it's not like the RC3 where a particular muzzle device is "most fit" for use with it. That sounds like a high volume flow through issue of a very specific flow regulation / timing quality specific to very high flow suppressors. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:01:16 PM EDT
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I switched all of my hosts and other cans over to DualLok recently and I run all Griffin minimalist brakes. I shoot 100% suppressed so no worries about flash mitigation from my muzzle device.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 2:25:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVUSIG: I switched all of my hosts and other cans over to DualLok recently and I run all Griffin minimalist brakes. I shoot 100% suppressed so no worries about flash mitigation from my muzzle device. Strictly curious, reason behind the minimalist vs say the paladin? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 3:21:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kirbykid25: Strictly curious, reason behind the minimalist vs say the paladin? I plan on sticking with DualLok and don't want to have a shallow blast chamber no matter the can. The minimalist offers that. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:03:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVUSIG: I plan on sticking with DualLok and don't want to have a shallow blast chamber no matter the can. The minimalist offers that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVUSIG: Originally Posted By kirbykid25: Strictly curious, reason behind the minimalist vs say the paladin? I plan on sticking with DualLok and don't want to have a shallow blast chamber no matter the can. The minimalist offers that. I’m going all dual lok as well(enough I had Ecco machine cut off the keymo on my sandman and thread it for a dual lok adapter) I can see the merit in in bigger blast chamber, I just still like the idea of the paladin brake with the dual “baffles”. So I’m still kind of undecided |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:17:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bluedog82]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kirbykid25: I’m going all dual lok as well(enough I had Ecco machine cut off the keymo on my sandman and thread it for a dual lok adapter) I can see the merit in in bigger blast chamber, I just still like the idea of the paladin brake with the dual “baffles”. So I’m still kind of undecided Unless you’re running a super shorty, one baffle should probably be plenty. After all, it’s a hard use can designed to be able to be run on full auto with a flash hider mount…unless you’re shooting it on a belt fed, you’ll be fine. Tens of thousands of rounds I would think, I’m sure @green0 can give you a better idea. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 11:30:45 PM EDT
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The cans are solid but running a brake is going to make it easier on any can.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:13:55 PM EDT
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I’m looking at the Dual-Lock 5 for a 14.5 P/W and was going to use the Paladin. Anyone think I should go with a 16” and minimalist brake instead? I’m building a lightweight do it all rifle. They are both about the same weight with the 14.5 being shorter and balancing better.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:25:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Green0]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By George218: I’m looking at the Dual-Lock 5 for a 14.5 P/W and was going to use the Paladin. Anyone think I should go with a 16” and minimalist brake instead? I’m building a lightweight do it all rifle. They are both about the same weight with the 14.5 being shorter and balancing better. You won’t notice a major difference in sound, grab the 14.5 if the paladin will perm it, but grab it in mid length gas if you can, thats a better gas length for suppressors. Our 14.5” is measured legal 14.84” for pinning A2 length with a stop washer or our A2 length devices with built in stops, and the paladin is very similar length to that and brings that barrel to 16.067” oal to the breech face when .625” thread overlap is accounted- before any added shims are accounted. |
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