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Originally Posted By Skyler2000: Saw this video review of the MDRX, and he says his MDRX rear sling mounting point broke off. Anyone know if this has been fixed in the Wlvrn? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzC3X1gAyvs View Quote The rear sling mount is updated in the Wlvrn. |
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Originally Posted By Odinforever2000: The rear sling mount it updated in the Wlvrn View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Odinforever2000: Originally Posted By Skyler2000: Saw this video review of the MDRX, and he says his MDRX rear sling mounting point broke off. Anyone know if this has been fixed in the Wlvrn? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzC3X1gAyvs The rear sling mount it updated in the Wlvrn Well they really thought of everything then. |
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Originally Posted By Odinforever2000: Desert Tech said the channel is aluminum with steel insert in high friction area. And of course..Everyones burning question.. https://i.imgur.com/RdYv246.jpeg View Quote I give them props for that one. |
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Originally Posted By tavorsterling: 308 Wlvrn came in today, not much time with it, stripped it down and that. Odd thing was I noticed black flakes of something around the trunnion area, it like was coming off the barrel, no ideal wtf it is, scrapes off with my finger nail. Paint maybe? Scaling? Overall fit and finish seems good, trigger and mag release has some grit to it, but feels like it's smoothing out. Didn't take many pic as I'm limited on time tonight. OSS muzzle brake wont fit thru the handguard, BUT you can pull the barrel all the way out with the handguard in place. So no issue doing barrel swaps with larger muzzle devices. Will be taking it to the range weekend. https://i.imgur.com/r6V8jpe.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/e99GOdI.jpeg View Quote Nice! I can't wait to see what you do with it. Pulling the barrel through with the handgaurd in place is a change from the previous generation. |
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Originally Posted By tavorsterling: 308 Wlvrn came in today, not much time with it, stripped it down and that. Odd thing was I noticed black flakes of something around the trunnion area, it like was coming off the barrel, no ideal wtf it is, scrapes off with my finger nail. Paint maybe? Scaling? Overall fit and finish seems good, trigger and mag release has some grit to it, but feels like it's smoothing out. Didn't take many pic as I'm limited on time tonight. OSS muzzle brake wont fit thru the handguard, BUT you can pull the barrel all the way out with the handguard in place. So no issue doing barrel swaps with larger muzzle devices. Will be taking it to the range weekend. https://i.imgur.com/r6V8jpe.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/e99GOdI.jpeg View Quote I don't know, but you're right - that's weird. I would be careful that it could be left over maloniting salts. Maybe not - probably not, but I don't know what the Hell that is. Please test to see if they dissolve in water. If they do - please come back before you go shooting this weekend... |
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer: I don't know, but you're right - that's weird. I would be careful that it could be left over maloniting salts. Maybe not - probably not, but I don't know what the Hell that is. Please test to see if they dissolve in water. If they do - please come back before you go shooting this weekend... View Quote Hmm maybe that. I'll put some in water and see if they dissolve tomorrow. |
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Originally Posted By tavorsterling: Hmm maybe that. I'll put some in water and see if they dissolve tomorrow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tavorsterling: Originally Posted By lazyengineer: I don't know, but you're right - that's weird. I would be careful that it could be left over maloniting salts. Maybe not - probably not, but I don't know what the Hell that is. Please test to see if they dissolve in water. If they do - please come back before you go shooting this weekend... Hmm maybe that. I'll put some in water and see if they dissolve tomorrow. Yea definitely report back on that. IF (and this is only IF) that's maloniting salts - failure to remove there, could also mean failure to correctly and fully remove from your bore. Which would mean your 7.62mm diameter bore, isn't 7.62mm diameter. That's all a big if that could be wildly in error, but sometimes mysteries are worth a moment to try and figure out. Also! As a request - when you do go shoot and do accuracy testing; would you be willing to do a couple tests for me? In particular, I want to see the behavior of two ammunition's specs: 1) A mild and light load of the lightest weight bullet you can find - fired in an unsuppressed gun. 2) a hot load of a heavy bullet, fired in an unsuppressed gun. From that I want to see two things A) what is the MOA of each (of course) B) What did the POI of each do when you changed ammo. Did it shift wildly (and in a semi-horizontal fashion)? My 6.5CM MDRx POI shifted considerably between those two specs. |
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Yea definitely report back on that. IF (and this is only IF) that's maloniting salts - failure to remove there, could also mean failure to correctly and fully remove from your bore. Which would mean your 7.62mm diameter bore, isn't 7.62mm diameter. That's all a big if that could be wildly in error, but sometimes mysteries are worth a moment to try and figure out. Also! As a request - when you do go shoot and do accuracy testing; would you be willing to do a couple tests for me? In particular, I want to see the behavior of two ammunition's specs: 1) A mild and light load of the lightest weight bullet you can find - fired in an unsuppressed gun. 2) a hot load of a heavy bullet, fired in an unsuppressed gun. From that I want to see two things A) what is the MOA of each (of course) B) What did the POI of each do when you changed ammo. Did it shift wildly (and in a semi-horizontal fashion)? My 6.5CM MDRx POI shifted considerably between those two specs. View Quote Ya Im gonna go to the local store and pick up a few various boxes of match ammo, so I try to find some lighter stuff as well as heavier 175s. I also want to test the return to zero of the barrel mounting. I have a lot I want to test, so I'll do as much as I can this weekend. |
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Yea definitely report back on that. IF (and this is only IF) that's maloniting salts - failure to remove there, could also mean failure to correctly and fully remove from your bore. Which would mean your 7.62mm diameter bore, isn't 7.62mm diameter. That's all a big if that could be wildly in error, but sometimes mysteries are worth a moment to try and figure out. View Quote I put the flakes in water this morning and let them sit for about 20 minutes, didn't seem like they dissolved any. I'll check on them again when I go home. I'll be running a brush down the barrel to verify its clear, but it was clearly test fired, so its probably fine. Though I will be honest, seeing this does raise some concerns about desert techs QC. Might be much ado about nothing, but still, not something I like to see on a new "premium" gun. |
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@tavorsterling, or anyone else looking to feed a .308. if your looking for ammo I suggest checking out PSA. They make .308 ammo under their AAC brand, I have only shot a few boxes but have had good luck. Pretty much the best prices for both FMJ and OTM/SMK type ammo on the market right now. Particularly if your trying to test different weights and bullet types, this is likely the only single manufacturer where you can do that at a reasonable price.
Looks like they have almost every .308 load in stock right now, which is unusual. |
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Originally Posted By shenendoah_rifleman: @tavorsterling, or anyone else looking to feed a .308. if your looking for ammo I suggest checking out PSA. They make .308 ammo under their AAC brand, I have only shot a few boxes but have had good luck. Pretty much the best prices for both FMJ and OTM/SMK type ammo on the market right now. Particularly if your trying to test different weights and bullet types, this is likely the only single manufacturer where you can do that at a reasonable price. Looks like they have almost every .308 load in stock right now, which is unusual. View Quote Too bad the 556 offerings are all sold out..Ive had a few request to test those.. |
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Originally Posted By shenendoah_rifleman: @tavorsterling, or anyone else looking to feed a .308. if your looking for ammo I suggest checking out PSA. They make .308 ammo under their AAC brand, I have only shot a few boxes but have had good luck. Pretty much the best prices for both FMJ and OTM/SMK type ammo on the market right now. Particularly if your trying to test different weights and bullet types, this is likely the only single manufacturer where you can do that at a reasonable price. Looks like they have almost every .308 load in stock right now, which is unusual. View Quote I have some of their AAC 150 fmj ammo, so far its been decent in my Tavor 7, so it will be included in the testing. |
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Originally Posted By Odinforever2000: Too bad the 556 offerings are all sold out..Ive had a few request to test those.. View Quote I have a box or two of their 77 otm left. X95 didn't like it far as accuracy, but then again, it seems the X95 refuses to do anything under 2moa no matter what ammo you use, match or cheap bulk. I do have a 5.56 wlvrn kit on order, so try to save it for that. Unless i run it thru my Brn-4 sbr before then. |
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The New Desert Tech WLVRN (vs The MDRx) 308 also present. Seems to be working. No mag drops. 77gr Fed Premium in the Wlvrn vs the MDRx. 1 (5) round group each. No accuracy test on the 308..Probably because they don't have a 308 MDRX to compare it to. |
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Originally Posted By Odinforever2000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI-wmqbCdp8 308 also present. Seems to be working. No mag drops. 77gr Fed Premium in the Wlvrn vs the MDRx. 1 (5) round group each. No accuracy test on the 308..Probably because they don't have a 308 MDRX to compare it to. View Quote Ya watching the ejection on their 308 leads me to believe mine has something wrong with it, ejector, extractor, gas system, who knows. Mine goes from barely working, then one click up on the gas, it starts stove piping. |
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Originally Posted By Odinforever2000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI-wmqbCdp8 308 also present. Seems to be working. No mag drops. 77gr Fed Premium in the Wlvrn vs the MDRx. 1 (5) round group each. No accuracy test on the 308..Probably because they don't have a 308 MDRX to compare it to. View Quote Thanks. They overdismiss the flyers and say "it was the shooter" pointing to 3 of the 5 being tight, and 2 being wild. In both groups fired (one MDRx, one WLVarn). While their gun-mount system was terrible (its actually difficult to shoot good groups from a tripod), bo - that probably was not the shooter. These guns shoot flyers - don't dismiss them - in five shots, 40% going wild isn't ok. That's the gun. Looks like WLVRN flyers are slightly better, but it's doing it too |
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Thanks. They overdismiss the flyers and say "it was the shooter" pointing to 3 of the 5 being tight, and 2 being wild. In both groups fired (one MDRx, one WLVarn). While their gun-mount system was terrible (its actually difficult to shoot good groups from a tripod), bo - that probably was not the shooter. These guns shoot flyers - don't dismiss them - in five shots, 40% going wild isn't ok. That's the gun. Looks like WLVRN flyers are slightly better, but it's doing it too View Quote The MDRx in 5.56 doesn't seem to do the same flier thing as the 308 flavor. At least in the community test data that we have. But if they are using those groups to represent the gun, and their discussion as to what is valid vs not... I am thinking they probably aren't precision shooters in general. |
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Originally Posted By FrozenIceman: The MDRx in 5.56 doesn't seem to do the same flier thing as the 308 flavor. At least in the community test data that we have. ... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FrozenIceman: Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Thanks. They overdismiss the flyers and say "it was the shooter" pointing to 3 of the 5 being tight, and 2 being wild. In both groups fired (one MDRx, one WLVarn). While their gun-mount system was terrible (its actually difficult to shoot good groups from a tripod), bo - that probably was not the shooter. These guns shoot flyers - don't dismiss them - in five shots, 40% going wild isn't ok. That's the gun. Looks like WLVRN flyers are slightly better, but it's doing it too The MDRx in 5.56 doesn't seem to do the same flier thing as the 308 flavor. At least in the community test data that we have. ... Yep. In 5.56 the system is still enough to hold. In .308 class - it's not. |
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WLVRN Sand and Mud Back-to-Back: UN-EDITED!! Desert Shooting Trial Sand and Mud Test as promised |
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WLVRN part 2, back from Desert Tech |
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Glad they got you taken care of. Interested to see continued reliability and accuracy updates.
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