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Posted: 4/9/2007 9:50:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/9/2007 10:45:51 AM EDT
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You can't carry on MARTA (Atlanta's public transportation). You will want to avoid MARTA anyway.
You can't carry in bars or restaurants that serve alcohol. No public gatherings like sporting events etc. ARH |
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Posted: 4/9/2007 11:33:09 AM EDT
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If you get a GA drivers license, then you can't carry with an out of state permit.
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Posted: 4/9/2007 11:40:38 AM EDT
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If you become a res you MUST get a GA license. GA will not allow you to carry in state without one if you live here.
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Posted: 4/9/2007 11:41:38 AM EDT
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Getting your permit can take up to 6 months.
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Posted: 4/9/2007 1:22:14 PM EDT
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Are you serious? Don't all restaurants serve alcohol these days? -MEI |
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Posted: 4/9/2007 1:23:23 PM EDT
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Damn. Well i'm just "visiting" then until I can get my GA license. I still have an IN drivers license and it will be staying that way for some time. Thanks for the responses guys. -MEI |
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Posted: 4/9/2007 3:04:05 PM EDT
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Just about all the restaurants in which you'd want to eat do serve alcohol. There was a bill in last year's legislature to correct the "no carry in restaurants that serve alcohol" silliness, but Gov Sonny backed down and acquiesced to the sissy-ass, metro-Atlanta, DemocRAT restaurant owners. |
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Posted: 4/9/2007 3:38:24 PM EDT
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Wait times for your CCW permit can vary greatly by counties.
In Gwinnett, my wife and I got our permits in under 6 weeks. Check www.georgiapacking.org/gfl.php for more info. Good luck and Welcome South Brother  The Bald Monk  |
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Posted: 4/9/2007 7:30:06 PM EDT
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Well no votes for that guy. Let's hope that changes real soon. I hope I don't forget to take it off prior to eating. That would be a shame.  Thanks for the info. -MEI |
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Posted: 4/9/2007 7:30:44 PM EDT
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Thanks. I've been in FL way too long. GA will be a nice change of view. -MEI |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 2:54:31 AM EDT
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Sure, if you consider a state with the longest list of off limits places to CCW to be "nice." |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 4:20:15 AM EDT
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i hate it when that happens |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 9:09:20 AM EDT
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Besides the whole alcohol thing...what else is off limits? -MEI |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 9:34:17 AM EDT
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The places where you need CCW most are off limits, generally speaking. At least around Atlanta: Sporting events and on MARTA. |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 10:55:55 AM EDT
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Most likely, it will take a lot less time than that, more likely two months. |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 10:57:11 AM EDT
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Do you have anything of substance to show that Sonny is the one that backed off from this? |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 11:00:04 AM EDT
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You cannot carry at sporting events, churchs, or restaurants that serve booze. The normal gov bldgs, schools, etc that are Federal. Marta is a gov entity. Other than that, most places are not off limits. Do any of you doing all this pissing and moaning even have carry licenses? I carry all the time and rarely have to take it off. |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 5:05:53 PM EDT
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Eat out much? -MEI |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 5:11:26 PM EDT
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Quite a bit. What's your point? |
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Posted: 4/10/2007 6:13:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/10/2007 8:44:37 PM EDT
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You'll need to apply for the permit at the probate court in the county that you will reside. I'm not aware of any length of residency requirements but call the Probate Court first. You'll be fingerprinted at the local jail/SO and undergo a background check.
Permits used to take 6-8 weeks but due to new policies regarding permits there are no more renewals. Permits are good for only five years and must be re-applied for every five. So everyone who has a permit and is re-applying this year is slowing up the system for new applications. That is why it is taking so long. Rule of thumb is that smaller counties should be faster than larger ones, but that is no longer true [10+ year permit holder that I know recently took over 6 months to get a new permit]. Permit prices are set by the probate court and the jail, but it's roughly $45-50 and worth an hour of your time. Again, call the Probate Court and ask the specifics,you might need to bring money orders and it's nice to already have them made out. Also, when purchasing a firearm your GA Firearms Liscence is good in place of a NICS check. That means cash and carry and no wait when you want to buy a gun. Good luck and you might want to get a southern dictionary. |
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Posted: 4/11/2007 6:33:36 AM EDT
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Good info. Thank you. -MEI |
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Posted: 4/11/2007 1:17:16 PM EDT
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I believe they scrapped that last year due to the state not updating records of people who had their CCL revoked. |
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Posted: 4/11/2007 2:18:04 PM EDT
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Well, you believe incorrectly. It was not valid for a while, but it got straightened out and is now acceptable. |
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Posted: 4/11/2007 2:18:54 PM EDT
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BTW, what part of Atlanta is the job in and have you decided where you are going to live? |
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Posted: 4/11/2007 2:55:15 PM EDT
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It came back into effect July 01, 2006. I have sold a whole pile of guns since then.
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Posted: 4/11/2007 6:40:28 PM EDT
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I'll be working for Atlantic Southeast Airlines so my place of work will be the airport. As far as a place to live...looking at the Vinings. Not sure just yet. -MEI |
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Posted: 4/11/2007 6:52:08 PM EDT
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That's gonna be a hell of a drive. Vinings is on the north side near Marietta. I would suggest south on I75 or south on I85, but a good ways south. |
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Posted: 4/11/2007 6:55:40 PM EDT
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It took about 15-20 minutes to drive it. I heard Newnan, GA was also a nice family environment. -MEI |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 4:49:16 AM EDT
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I bitch and moan about GA carry restrictions becuase I DO carry.
GA has one of the longest if not THE longest list of off limits places of any state. Here's the complete list of places OFF LIMITS to carry: www.georgiapacking.org/gflpol.php For a COMPLETE list of GA gun laws (not internet hearsay and incomplete info) check out this page: www.georgiapacking.org/law.php For detailed info on the GFL process, see this page: www.georgiapacking.org/gfl.php For lots of info about what is being done RIGHT NOW to improve GA's gun law situation, monitor this site: www.georgiacarry.org/ |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 5:52:49 AM EDT
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Vinnings is ok if you carpool. I lived there for a year. The HOV lanes help immensely. You probably will be driving off hours anyway. You'll be close to Marietta which is a very nice place to live. Cobb County courts are the easiest to deal with too. We've got great restrauants, a few gun shops, and a couple of movie theaters. My favorite theater is right next to vinnings on 41, and Pero's pizza is a lot of fun at their lunch buffet.
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Posted: 4/12/2007 6:04:22 AM EDT
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I wouldn't say so. They routinely violate the 60 day statutory limit for issuing GFLs (mine took 98 days) and it took legal pressure from GCO to get them to follow state law and issue temporary licenses. The temp license issue is still open and still in litigation because they are defacing the temps that they do issue with inappropriate extra language regarding the nature of the temp licenses as they apply to NICS exemption. Judge Dodd does not provide a good example of how courts should handle the issuing of GFLs. He's just as bad as the rest of them. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 10:02:06 AM EDT
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GA is a shitty state as far as CCW laws go. Very disappointed.  -MEI |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 10:37:44 AM EDT
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Welcome to the Old South: History Of Georgia’s Carry Laws: The Continuing Legacy of Slavery and Racism |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 10:38:01 AM EDT
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You must not have driven it during rush hour. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 10:39:50 AM EDT
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My bad. I heard about the intial snafu but didn't hear about it being reinstated. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 10:40:40 AM EDT
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Explain to me how Indiana's carry laws are so much better. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 10:43:36 AM EDT
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Indiana's laws don't have anything to do with the shitty-ness of Georgia's restrictions. Back to the commuting issue: I drive 32 miles from Acworth to downtown on I75 every day. I leave the house at 6:00 in the morning and it takes me about 40 minutes. In the afternoons, I try to get out of the office around 4:00. My usual drive time is about 50 minutes. It's been closer to 65 minutes lately due to construction. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 10:58:48 AM EDT
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Yeah, real informative site: This is, verbatim, in one of the boxes under 2002. They picked only parts of 16-12-123 to make it sound like the state of Georgia would charge you with hijacking just for carrying on board a public conveyance.
I love how they leave out parts to make it sound like if you try to board a bus or train with a firearm you will be charged with hijacking. The actual code reads thusly: I highlighted in red the parts they quoted to show you how misleading they are trying to be.
Yes, you would be guilty of a felony for trying to carry on any public conveyance. That is no different from any other state. You would not be charged with or convicted of hijacking just for carrying on board one of these conveyances. It clearly states that hijacking would include violence or force. As for "the continuing legacy of slavery and racism", give me a break. What a crock. Even from your own link, the last law of that type was written in 1910. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 11:22:45 AM EDT
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There are several states that allow carry on public transportation. You can't deny that our modern concept of gun control is rooted in the Jim Crow laws of the post-reconstruction South. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 12:01:14 PM EDT
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Gun control laws nationally were originally based on racism, so that is nothing exclusive to Georgia. So are most of the drug laws. However, that has nothing to do with current carry laws and singling out a law that is 93 years old and is no longer valid is hardly any basis for a statement like "a continuing legacy of slavery and racism" Slavery ended about 147 years ago and has nothing to do with anything. That also does not excuse the misleading way of them putting in one box bits and pieces of a law that make it sound like you would be charged with hijacking for merely carrying aboard public transportation. I don't care to be part of, nor take advice from, a group that does that kind of shit. Now, name those "several states" that allow carry on public transportation. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 12:09:55 PM EDT
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I was asking him since he was coming from Indiana. I have a Florida license as well as my Georgia license due to Florida having reciprocity with one or two more states than Georgia. I am familiar with Florida carry laws, Pennsylvania, Texas, and several others. I find the Georgia laws to be on par with many states and better than some states such as Texas. In Texas, you really have to worry about printing as open carry is not allowed in Texas even with a license. That is true in many states. Now, in Arizona you can open carry without a license and I have done so since Arizona did not reciprocate Georgia or Texas at the time. You counstantly complain about Georgia carry laws, but with the exception of being compared to Arizona, Alaska, and (I always get NH and VT mixed up, but the one with concealed carry without a license) a couple of others, ours is really pretty good. Granted, you can carry in a bar in Pennsylvania, but since packing.org is down for some time now, I can't really research other states. I can just base it on states where I have actually been and worked in for comparison. Ideally, we should be able to carry nationally without a license but until the USSC makes a 2nd Amendment ruling in our favor, it ain't gonna happen. Even then, they will probably still allow some restrictions such as no carry in government buildings, schools, and the like. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 1:32:39 PM EDT
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Alabama Alaska Arkansas Delaware Florida Idaho ...etc... Browse around handgunlaw.us for more. After looking through the info, I'll revise my original statement to, "MOST other states allow carry on public transportation." |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 1:54:31 PM EDT
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How about a specific link to back up your "most other states" statement. I can find nothing on that site that addresses public transportation. Given that most public transportation is owned by some level of government, I would have to say that your statement is false as the busses and trains involved would be government property and I can find no state that allows carry on governent property except for parks and WMAs. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 2:10:41 PM EDT
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Indiana is much different. You can carry almost anywhere. No stupid "if they serve alcohol" rules. Might just be the area I grew up in...but no one cares about gun laws. The police could care even less as long as you don't start shooting at them.  -MEI |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 2:28:59 PM EDT
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I gave you the link. Do what I did. Open up the documents and read what is off limits in each state for yourself. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 4:01:41 PM EDT
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In other words, you saw nothing that addressed that issue so you assumed it meant you were correct. Guess again. I printed it out and went over it thoroughly and it's funny that I don't get the same thing you did. Most states don't address it either way, but since most busses and trains are government property, the "government property" prohibition covers that. The few states that do actually address it, Montana and Missouri, are almost verbatim what Georgia says. BTW, from your link, these are the states that restrict carrying where liquor is served: Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Florida DC doesn't list restrictions as handguns as they are completely illegal. Hawaii no licenses issued that they can find and no listing of restrictions Illinois non-carry state Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Mass no listing Michigan Mississippi Montana Nebraska New Mexico New York does not address restrictions North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 6:28:07 PM EDT
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You win. GA's carry laws are Peachy. |
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Posted: 4/12/2007 7:17:02 PM EDT
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I'm not going to wade through all the states of which I have no interest, but, just from the list, I can tell you that GA's firearms license prohibitions regarding carrying where alcohol is served on the premises is more restrictive than FL's law, and probably more restrictive than many other states.
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