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So the steel jacketed round fragged and the copper jacket didn't.
The last picture is consistent with what i'm used to seeing from those rounds. Good job, actually shooting them into something instead speculating about what they do. |
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where did you get the steel jacketed m80?
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+1 So many posters do not show their work/testing. Thank you for showing this. |
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Originally Posted By polik6887:
where did you get the steel jacketed m80? The steel jacket LC M80 tested was pulled from 100rd. assault belts linked (4) M80 ball - (1) M62 tracer. The headstamp is LC 87 with NATO cross. The non-magnetic gilded metal (GM) jacket 7.62x51mm tested was F4 Aussie headstamped AFF 89. Note: I plan to test steel jacket LC 87, WCC 07, DAG 93 (newer AB22/DM111 type German thin steel jacket), & Men-85 (older DM41 type German thin steel jacket) 7.62x51mm ammo for fragmentation distance/velocity threshold during a week-long shoot in September. |
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Thanks for sharing your work.
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Good stuff - I'm going to mark this post to prevent it from being archived.
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Are the German AB22 rounds commercially available anywhere?
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Beautiful work! Thank you very much for putting so much into it.
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+10000 where did you find them? another poster found that both hirtenberger and GGG also fragment. |
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Well done Sir!!!
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Originally Posted By DocGKR:
Well done Sir!!! Doc, Thank you! We appreciate your help in sorting this type testing out. |
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Zhukov - you gonna tack this thread? |
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Nope. I did mark it as "do not archive" so the archive server won't swallow it up, and will probably add it to the FAQ somewhere eventually. |
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I have a few cases of surplusGerman DAG ammo in 7.62x51 nato that in my half ass testing (wet phone books) realy is great at 100 yards . I gotta look and see what the box is marked it my be what you are talking about. 4 or 5 years ago I stocked up on surplus ammo Port,Dag,Men,Aussy,Santa Barbra,and Hirt. with prices what they are now ,I'm glad I did .
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Thanks for taking time to do this and sharing your work. Good info!
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Bit of a grave dig, but Google turned up this thread while I was looking for info on the AB22 projectile.
Dans Ammo looks to have this in stock for $270/500 right now. Just ordered 1k, will let you know how it looks when it arrives. http://www.dansammo.com/ammo.asp |
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good stuff
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I use a flamethrower for home defense, it always beats the racking of the 870 and the "superior" wounding effects of the AR
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Originally Posted By nvgeologist:
Bit of a grave dig, but Google turned up this thread while I was looking for info on the AB22 projectile. Dans Ammo looks to have this in stock for $270/500 right now. Just ordered 1k, will let you know how it looks when it arrives. http://www.dansammo.com/ammo.asp That's actually a good price in today's market. I think ATG had some a few months ago for a decent price, but they had a small % of cases with corrosion. I load my own SD ammo with 155gr AMAX though and felt that 50 cents a round was a bit much considering the corrosion. |
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This should be a sticky since so many .308AR in use now...
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You say that like that's a bad thing.....
In all seriousness there should be more stuff in the ammo section dedicated to .308 since there are so many ARs in the cartridge. The ammo section and it's stickies are almost all dedicated to 5.56. I doubt there will ever be an ammo subsection in the variants and it is hard to find good info on certain loads in .308 here. Just a thought, I know it was shared by a few in he variants section... |
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I understand where you're coming from, but there is less need for 308 ammo information since most of it is devastating (unless you're using FMJ). .223 is more tricky, as the small bullet needs specific designs in order to be most effective. Nut sure - there's nothing wrong with discussing it and this thread has great information.
At home, I have 500 each of Hornady SST and Nosler BTs that I'm ready to reload. Those will put a hurtin' on whatever encounters them. |
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