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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:04:13 AM EDT

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Pretty much movie stuff.
The Convict that was is named as Mohammed A.
I hope they hunt the fuckers down.

"A police source said that the attack was carried out by a team of several individuals who arrived in two vehicles and later fled. One of them was also wounded, a police source said, but it was not immediately clear how many attackers there were in total."

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2024/05/14/at-least-two-french-prison-officers-killed-in-inmate-s-escape_6671431_7.html

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À la vue de cette vidéo, les barbares ont d’abord fait entrer un véhicule en collision avec le fourgon pénitentiaire puis sont ensuite descendus pour s’attaquer directement aux agents et libérer le détenu Mohamed Amra.#Incarville pic.twitter.com/fskSPN0jX8
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Tallahasseezz What Kind of an American Are You? Joined Sep 2012 Posts 5183 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 8:23:08 AM EDT [#1] Seems like the French are getting the results of what they voted for.

Southernman077 Oh, I'm a Good Ol' Rebel Joined Mar 2006 Posts 27741 EE 0% (0) TN, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 8:38:49 AM EDT [#2] Just part and parcel.
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CanaryCamaro Joined Jul 2020 Posts 3212 EE 100% (1) TX, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 8:43:19 AM EDT [Last Edit: CanaryCamaro] [#3] Looks like the gun from the movie Heat

Ronin76 Joined Aug 2022 Posts 1184 EE 0% (0) JPN	Posted: 5/14/2024 8:47:21 AM EDT [Last Edit: Ronin76] [#4] I hope the driver didn't slow down or stop to avoid damaging the van he was driving or to avoid hitting another vehicle. He should have known that the chances were minimal that he would live if the hijackers got control.

fosters Joined Jun 2006 Posts 20504 EE 100% (36) FL, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 8:53:47 AM EDT [#5] Le gun

GGF Joined Nov 2010 Posts 22961 EE 0% (0) IN, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 8:56:54 AM EDT [#6] Can we still taunt the French?

DefMan I suffer from CHS Joined Apr 2002 Posts 18250 EE 100% (13) NY, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 8:58:31 AM EDT [#7] Guess we can say that gun was used never dropped.
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Tangotag Casual Member Joined May 2006 Posts 4571 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:11:31 AM EDT [#8] Not the FAMAS from Heat, maybe the HK416F from Heat? https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/16/details-heckler-koch-hk416f-france/

chase45 Joined Jun 2008 Posts 52995 EE 100% (7) IN, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:13:23 AM EDT [#9] They really wanted their bro back

akguy1985 Joined Jun 2007 Posts 14893 EE 100% (1) OK, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:14:10 AM EDT [#10] Looks kinda like an AKS-74U "Krink" almost. Pic too blurry

VTD Member Joined Sep 2002 Posts 8125 EE 100% (21) VT, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:21:06 AM EDT [Last Edit: VTD] [#11] Quote History Originally Posted By akguy1985: Looks kinda like an AKS-74U "Krink" almost. Pic too blurry View Quote I don't think so

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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:21:45 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Ronin76:

I hope the driver didn't slow down or stop to avoid damaging the van he was driving or to avoid hitting another vehicle. He should have known that the chances were minimal that he would live if the hijackers got control.

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It's amazing how people are so conditioned to not make messes or break things that they will try to protect property and prevent damage, even when their life is in immediate danger.

I've seen videos where people should've started shooting back immediately through a window, but instead wasted time rolling it down or opening the door first. I guess it goes back to getting in trouble for breaking things as a kid.

Dangermouse78 Nothing to see here Joined Dec 2009 Posts 12253 EE 100% (7) NM, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:21:56 AM EDT [#13] Doesn’t seem to be a sights. Weird. Attached File
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chase45 Joined Jun 2008 Posts 52996 EE 100% (7) IN, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:23:18 AM EDT [#14] Quote History Originally Posted By akguy1985: Looks kinda like an AKS-74U "Krink" almost. Pic too blurry View Quote Screenname is not checkin out

Alacrity Member Joined Sep 2001 Posts 16236 EE 100% (11) USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:25:00 AM EDT [Last Edit: Alacrity] [#15] Quote History Originally Posted By GGF: Can we still taunt the French? View Quote Recently Skylar Meade. Gonzalo Lopez. And he did it himself.
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Bogdan Member Joined Feb 2022 Posts 4709 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:27:01 AM EDT [#16] they got the changes they voted for.

JeepersCreepers Member Joined Nov 2023 Posts 2580 EE 0% (0) NC, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:33:40 AM EDT [Last Edit: JeepersCreepers] [#17] Quote History Originally Posted By Dangermouse78: Doesn’t seem to be a sights. Weird. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/228520/IMG_3396_png-3214033.JPG View Quote

phatmax Member Joined Apr 2003 Posts 41174 EE 100% (4) SC, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:37:24 AM EDT [#18] A Vichy-16
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Kihn Member Joined Jan 2001 Posts 127391 EE 100% (7) USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:38:25 AM EDT [#19] Looks like an AR pattern rifle with the buffer tube and M4 stock. The sight looks like a C-More type mounted to the picatinny upper receiver. The mag is M16 shaped.
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pr24guy Member Joined Mar 2004 Posts 11095 EE 100% (1) NJ, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:42:52 AM EDT [#20] CZ 806 most likely.
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Hamel Member Joined Oct 2002 Posts 13145 EE 100% (29) RI, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:47:52 AM EDT [#21] Looks like it has a buffer tube. Leaning toward an SBR AR no sights. Otherwise a Sig MCX

57man Joined Nov 2004 Posts 1500 EE 100% (20) NJ, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:50:41 AM EDT [#22] France is fucked. Heading toward civil war in next decade.

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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:52:37 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Kihn:
Looks like an AR pattern rifle with the buffer tube and M4 stock. The sight looks like a C-More type mounted to the picatinny upper receiver. The mag is M16 shaped.

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Looks like those cheap Amazon Chinese red dots that look like C-More sights.

I'm leaning European-production, Ar15, SBR/pistol variant with shitty Chinese red dot carried by a Muslim terrorist.

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towerofpower94 Member Joined May 2012 Posts 8543 EE 100% (53) USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:54:38 AM EDT [#25] Quote History Originally Posted By Kihn: Looks like an AR pattern rifle with the buffer tube and M4 stock. The sight looks like a C-More type mounted to the picatinny upper receiver. The mag is M16 shaped. View Quote I'm going with this

towerofpower94 Member Joined May 2012 Posts 8544 EE 100% (53) USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:55:23 AM EDT [#26] Quote History Originally Posted By 57man: France is fucked. Heading toward ~~civil war~~ genocide in next decade. View Quote How are the OG French going to civil war in their disarmed society?

NotAFudd Member Joined Nov 2011 Posts 26994 EE 100% (4) TX, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 9:58:04 AM EDT [#27] Looks like French Foreign Legion sent to Ukraine, Syrian Foreign Legion sent to France…
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Flathead9 Joined Oct 2008 Posts 6046 EE 100% (74) WI, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 10:01:08 AM EDT [#28] I don't think it's a 5.56 magazine. Look at the shape and length.

Yor Joined Jun 2013 Posts 2511 EE 100% (2) OK, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 10:05:54 AM EDT [#29] Quote History Originally Posted By Flathead9: I don't think it's a 5.56 magazine. Look at the shape and length. View Quote I don't own one but could that be a 40 rounder?

Kihn Member Joined Jan 2001 Posts 127394 EE 100% (7) USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 10:06:46 AM EDT [#30] Quote History Originally Posted By Flathead9: I don't think it's a 5.56 magazine. Look at the shape and length. View Quote It's definitely M16 shape. Would not argue against a 40 rd one.
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Tallahasseezz What Kind of an American Are You? Joined Sep 2012 Posts 5184 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 10:20:19 AM EDT [#31] Another vote for 40 round .556 magazine. Situation reminds me of the prison break from Patriot Games.

Slingblade2006 Member Joined Nov 2009 Posts 2605 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 10:25:50 AM EDT [#32] Quote History Originally Posted By 57man: France is fucked. Heading toward civil war in next decade. View Quote It's already there.
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HDLS Member Joined Sep 2013 Posts 37094 EE 100% (32) CA, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 10:30:23 AM EDT [Last Edit: HDLS] [#33] À la vue de cette vidéo, les barbares ont d’abord fait entrer un véhicule en collision avec le fourgon pénitentiaire puis sont ensuite descendus pour s’attaquer directement aux agents et libérer le détenu Mohamed Amra.#Incarville pic.twitter.com/fskSPN0jX8 Tom (@tomrfn) May 14, 2024

pr24guy Member Joined Mar 2004 Posts 11096 EE 100% (1) NJ, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 10:54:47 AM EDT [#34] After watching the video, I'm still going with CZ 806 Bren 2 "PDW". CZ Bren 2 "PDW" at the Range https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIXLPnopFuA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:07:43 AM EDT

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The GIGN have the Bren 806 but somehow I doubt they orchestrated this since the guards died.

My first thought was something like a Keltec PLR-16 with a 40-round magazine. As blurry as it is, any short-barreled railed AR-pattern would fit.

I would think it would be something somewhat inexpensive if it isn't a state-sponsored show. I can't imagine what an MCX goes for on the European black market. How many Mk18s did we leave behind in AFG?

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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:18:59 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Findsman:
The GIGN have the Bren 806 but somehow I doubt they orchestrated this since the guards died.

My first thought was something like a Keltec PLR-16 with a 40-round magazine. As blurry as it is, any short-barreled railed AR-pattern would fit.

I would think it would be something somewhat inexpensive if it isn't a state-sponsored show. I can't imagine what an MCX goes for on the European black market. How many Mk18s did we leave behind in AFG?

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The GIGN uses them, so does the Egyptians and Pakistanis.

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LV1976 A day without a buzz is like a day that never was Joined Jan 2011 Posts 10464 EE 100% (44) AZ, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 11:29:01 AM EDT [#37] Who is Mohammed Amra, and why does he have enough juice to warrant a strong arm prison transport break?
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bradpierson26 Member Joined Dec 2008 Posts 81103 EE 100% (183) CO, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 11:30:09 AM EDT [Last Edit: bradpierson26] [#38] Shorty Galil Or Zastava CZ 806 is a good call
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:32:25 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By pr24guy:

The GIGN uses them, so does the Egyptians and Pakistanis.

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Originally Posted By Findsman:
The GIGN have the Bren 806 but somehow I doubt they orchestrated this since the guards died.

My first thought was something like a Keltec PLR-16 with a 40-round magazine. As blurry as it is, any short-barreled railed AR-pattern would fit.

I would think it would be something somewhat inexpensive if it isn't a state-sponsored show. I can't imagine what an MCX goes for on the European black market. How many Mk18s did we leave behind in AFG?

The GIGN uses them, so does the Egyptians and Pakistanis.

Good point. Not usually something I'd suspect Egypt to be involved in, but Pakistan? They were complicit in hiding Bin Laden since 2001 so anything is possible there.

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TheLookingGlass Joined Nov 2021 Posts 5195 EE 0% (0) FL, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 11:36:35 AM EDT [#40] Quote History Originally Posted By Flathead9: I don't think it's a 5.56 magazine. Look at the shape and length. View Quote I think you are right. It looks like a 300blk to me. Or maybe a 6.8spc.

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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:38:19 AM EDT

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Good point. Not usually something I'd suspect Egypt to be involved in, but Pakistan? They were complicit in hiding Bin Laden since 2001 so anything is possible there.

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Originally Posted By pr24guy:

Originally Posted By Findsman:
The GIGN have the Bren 806 but somehow I doubt they orchestrated this since the guards died.

My first thought was something like a Keltec PLR-16 with a 40-round magazine. As blurry as it is, any short-barreled railed AR-pattern would fit.

I would think it would be something somewhat inexpensive if it isn't a state-sponsored show. I can't imagine what an MCX goes for on the European black market. How many Mk18s did we leave behind in AFG?

The GIGN uses them, so does the Egyptians and Pakistanis.

Good point. Not usually something I'd suspect Egypt to be involved in, but Pakistan? They were complicit in hiding Bin Laden since 2001 so anything is possible there.

Not so much state sponsored, but second and third world countries aren't always the best with sensitive item inventory. Shit, look how much gear we left behind in AFG. Every swinging dong in Afghanistan has an M4 with a PEQ-15 and ACOG or M68 these days

Kubota3430 Member Joined Jul 2012 Posts 31467 EE 100% (17) WA, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 11:39:01 AM EDT [#42] France let lots of people in from places that were colonies years ago. Many if not most of them did not want to assimilate. They taught their kids and grandkids not to assimilate. Then they brought in the recent invaders and well maybe the Olympics will be exciting this year.
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pr24guy Member Joined Mar 2004 Posts 11100 EE 100% (1) NJ, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 11:48:18 AM EDT [#43] Quote History Originally Posted By LV1976: Who is Mohammed Amra, and why does he have enough juice to warrant a strong arm prison transport break? View Quote Major Drug Gang Leader and convicted of two murders.
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Major Drug Gang Leader and convicted of two murders.

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Originally Posted By LV1976:
Who is Mohammed Amra, and why does he have enough juice to warrant a strong arm prison transport break?

Major Drug Gang Leader and convicted of two murders.

Thanks. Bad sign of things to come.

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JellyBelly Arfcom's Most Ignored Joined Sep 2005 Posts 38486 EE 100% (10) MI, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 12:11:00 PM EDT [#46] Quote History Originally Posted By Ronin76: I hope the driver didn't slow down or stop to avoid damaging the van he was driving or to avoid hitting another vehicle. He should have known that the chances were minimal that he would live if the hijackers got control. View Quote Also: shoot the high profile prisoners to prevent escape?
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Esterhase Member Joined Feb 2018 Posts 2993 EE 0% (0) PA, USA	Posted: 5/14/2024 4:01:00 PM EDT [#47] Quote History Originally Posted By towerofpower94: How are the OG French going to civil war in their disarmed society? View Quote Clearly not that disarmed
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PacNW5 Member Joined Mar 2019 Posts 13703 EE 0% (0) SWE	Posted: 5/15/2024 12:06:41 AM EDT [#48] France: Gunmen kill guards in prison van ambush - with inmate 'The Fly' on the run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE05bbnIEB8

jonny762 Joined Nov 2006 Posts 7182 EE 100% (13) OH, USA	Posted: 5/15/2024 12:26:02 AM EDT [#49] Quote History Originally Posted By LV1976: Who is Mohammed Amra, and why does he have enough juice to warrant a strong arm prison transport break? View Quote They call him "The Fly". Why do they call him that? "Because 'the Sand Spider' was taken."

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