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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:06:09 AM EDT
Honestly thought our numbers would be higher, especially with a population of over 300 million.
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:12:21 AM EDT
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I've always heard that we are less than 1% of the population.
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:14:47 AM EDT
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All of which are clogging the commisary aisles at Miramar.....
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:15:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jt526]
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Looks like that is true retirees, not the millions of former servicemembers or those on disability.
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:29:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HDLS]
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A lot don't last too long after retirement.
I hope to be able to say one day I've been retired longer than I was in. I'm a little over halfway there. |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:31:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: Looks like that is true retirees, not the millions of former servicemembers or those on disability. This. Most folks don't go to retirement. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:34:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Middlelength: This. Most folks don't go to retirement. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Middlelength: Originally Posted By jt526: Looks like that is true retirees, not the millions of former servicemembers or those on disability. This. Most folks don't go to retirement. Why bother after reaching 100% disability after your first 6 year enlistment with a deployment to Kuwait? |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:35:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: Looks like that is true retirees, not the millions of former servicemembers or those on disability. well, yeah, if you didn't retire you're not a retiree. OP is a retiree, he knows what a retiree is or isn't. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:40:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpudCrushr: Why bother after reaching 100% disability after your first 6 year enlistment with a deployment to Kuwait? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpudCrushr: Originally Posted By Middlelength: Originally Posted By jt526: Looks like that is true retirees, not the millions of former servicemembers or those on disability. This. Most folks don't go to retirement. Why bother after reaching 100% disability after your first 6 year enlistment with a deployment to Kuwait? True |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:42:02 AM EDT
[#9]
3 years, 20 days, and a wake-up.
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:44:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: A lot don't last too long after retirement. I hope to be able to say one day I've been retired longer than I was in. I'm a little over halfway there. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:49:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesquidliest: I remember reading somewhere before I dropped my papers that the pentagon budget weenies actually plan for a good percentage of military retirees dying during a really short time period, like 10 years post-retirement. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesquidliest: Originally Posted By HDLS: A lot don't last too long after retirement. I hope to be able to say one day I've been retired longer than I was in. I'm a little over halfway there. Yeah, and they'd prefer you die the following day after you punch out. Don't have to pay you anymore or accommodate you for medical/dental, base privileges, etc. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:55:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesquidliest: I remember reading somewhere before I dropped my papers that the pentagon budget weenies actually plan for a good percentage of military retirees dying during a really short time period, like 10 years post-retirement. My grandpa served 32.5 years. Retired O-8. And then lived another 30 years. Also signed up for the SBP, and his wife (my grandma) is still alive at 92 collecting his major general pension twice a month. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:59:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: My grandpa served 32.5 years. Retired O-8. And then lived another 30 years. Also signed up for the SBP, and his wife (my grandma) is still alive at 92 collecting his major general pension twice a month. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By thesquidliest: I remember reading somewhere before I dropped my papers that the pentagon budget weenies actually plan for a good percentage of military retirees dying during a really short time period, like 10 years post-retirement. My grandpa served 32.5 years. Retired O-8. And then lived another 30 years. Also signed up for the SBP, and his wife (my grandma) is still alive at 92 collecting his major general pension twice a month. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 1:15:01 AM EDT
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The All Volunteer Force doesn't have a vast multitude of volunteers. Toss people out in drawdowns that you will need later, and go woke is certain to produce even fewer volunteers.
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Posted: 5/11/2024 1:18:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: My grandpa served 32.5 years. Retired O-8. And then lived another 30 years. Also signed up for the SBP, and his wife (my grandma) is still alive at 92 collecting his major general pension twice a month. How about this guy. Retired as an O2 before Germany surrendered and is still collecting retirement. 2024 Register of Officers. 
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Posted: 5/11/2024 1:21:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GySgt_D: All of which are clogging the commisary aisles at |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 1:25:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bunnysriflestock]
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Something is going on. My one Neighbor was going for 28 yrs.To beat his Fathers 26 yr career. Now he is just doing his 20 yrs..
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Posted: 5/11/2024 1:25:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: A lot don't last too long after retirement. I hope to be able to say one day I've been retired longer than I was in. I'm a little over halfway there. On Sept 1 this year (2024), I will have been retired from USAF for 30 years. It's a surreal concept sometimes. (I've been retired from my second career for four years.) |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 1:37:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: My grandpa served 32.5 years. Retired O-8. And then lived another 30 years. Also signed up for the SBP, and his wife (my grandma) is still alive at 92 collecting his major general pension twice a month. The last civil war widow receiving her husband's pension just died a couple of years ago. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/11/2024 1:38:41 AM EDT
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that honestly a huge number. most countries just dont have percentages like that
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Posted: 5/11/2024 3:13:23 AM EDT
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Can't wait to rock this bad-boy while pushing my shopping buggy the wrong way down the commissary isles!
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Posted: 5/11/2024 7:48:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: UtahShotgunner]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy: The last civil war widow receiving her husband's pension just died a couple of years ago. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By Low_Country: My grandpa served 32.5 years. Retired O-8. And then lived another 30 years. Also signed up for the SBP, and his wife (my grandma) is still alive at 92 collecting his major general pension twice a month. The last civil war widow receiving her husband's pension just died a couple of years ago. Last pensioner wife died in 2008. Last wife who did not claim pension died in 2020. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War_widows_who_survived_into_the_21st_century |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:00:58 AM EDT
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That’s retirees……NOT vets.
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:07:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy:The last civil war widow receiving her husband's pension just died a couple of years ago. 84-year old veteran knocked up a 34-year old wife whose child was 90 when she passed in 2020. |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:19:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: beruitUSMC0351]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aleutianhunter: How about this guy. Retired as an O2 before Germany surrendered and is still collecting retirement. 2024 Register of Officers. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/189640/9435A3E1-1CAD-4CF0-9D9A-85F53ECF8FAA-3211206.jpg I think he's dead https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/31268540/benedict_s_czaikowski-anthony |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:42:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: Looks like that is true retirees, not the millions of former servicemembers or those on disability. Yup. There’s several officers at our department that are at 100 percent mil disability, yet they’re physically able to work as cops or firefighters. Got the handicapped car tags too. 🤷♂️ |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:45:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: A lot don't last too long after retirement. I hope to be able to say one day I've been retired longer than I was in. I'm a little over halfway there. Correct The first 5 years claim a lot of retirees. 1 more year and I will have been retired the same as I was in (22). |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:48:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GySgt_D: All of which are clogging the commisary aisles at Miramar..... I beg to differ, you're just seeing the overflow from the BX at Macdill. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:53:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HenryKnoxFineBooks: The All Volunteer Force doesn't have a vast multitude of volunteers. Toss people out in drawdowns that you will need later, and go woke is certain to produce even fewer volunteers. Woke or not being the reason.... our service members carry a disproportionate amount of burden to keep this country going. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:53:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: 3 years, 20 days, and a wake-up. 
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:56:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Woke or not being the reason.... our service members carry a disproportionate amount of burden to keep this country going. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Originally Posted By HenryKnoxFineBooks: The All Volunteer Force doesn't have a vast multitude of volunteers. Toss people out in drawdowns that you will need later, and go woke is certain to produce even fewer volunteers. Woke or not being the reason.... our service members carry a disproportionate amount of burden to keep this country going. What do you think the reason would be? |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:56:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: A lot don't last too long after retirement. I hope to be able to say one day I've been retired longer than I was in. I'm a little over halfway there. I retired from the AF 30 years ago after being in for 20. 
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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:57:17 AM EDT
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I served for 23 years and retired in 1980. I'm the reason Congress can't balance the budget.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:01:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbleArcher: What do you think the reason would be? My guess the problem is a bit more complex and nuanced than "it's because the military is woke". |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:02:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GySgt_D: All of which are clogging the commisary aisles at Miramar..... Yep. That is true of ALL commisaries. In fact, my number one goal when I retired was to go to the commissary and wander down the middle of the aisle aimlessly with a single can of pork and beans in the basket. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:03:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ltcdwb: Yep. That is true of ALL commisaries. In fact, my number one goal when I retired was to go to the commissary and wander down the middle of the aisle aimlessly with a single can of pork and beans in the basket. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ltcdwb: Originally Posted By GySgt_D: All of which are clogging the commisary aisles at Miramar..... Yep. That is true of ALL commisaries. In fact, my number one goal when I retired was to go to the commissary and wander down the middle of the aisle aimlessly with a single can of pork and beans in the basket. You Sir, are an artist. Carry on. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:04:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: My guess the problem is a bit more complex and nuanced than "it's because the military is woke". Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Originally Posted By AbleArcher: What do you think the reason would be? My guess the problem is a bit more complex and nuanced than "it's because the military is woke". I got time. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:05:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: A lot don't last too long after retirement. I hope to be able to say one day I've been retired longer than I was in. I'm a little over halfway there. Knock on wood, I should be able to get there. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:05:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet: Honestly thought our numbers would be higher, especially with a population of over 300 million. It’s actually a bit low. I remember reading an old military strategic report from the 60’s or 70’s that said a good metric to identify a healthy military population is for the general population to consist of 1% military veterans. We are at about 0.6%. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:09:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: My guess the problem is a bit more complex and nuanced than "it's because the military is woke".  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:10:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesquidliest: I remember reading somewhere before I dropped my papers that the pentagon budget weenies actually plan for a good percentage of military retirees dying during a really short time period, like 10 years post-retirement. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesquidliest: Originally Posted By HDLS: A lot don't last too long after retirement. I hope to be able to say one day I've been retired longer than I was in. I'm a little over halfway there. I retired 10 years ago. I'm still in good health and plan on staying alive another 30 years minimum. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:14:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kraquine: Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: My guess the problem is a bit more complex and nuanced than "it's because the military is woke". /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif Break it down, its a discussion forum. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:17:47 AM EDT
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My dad made it to 26 years before retiring in 2008. Dude was a stud.
I didn't make it to retirement and was medically discharged at 12 TIS in 2019. 
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:20:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bunnysriflestock: Something is going on. My one Neighbor was going for 28 yrs.To beat his Fathers 26 yr career. Now he is just doing his 20 yrs.. That’s just the military being the military. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:22:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ServusVeritatis: That’s retirees……NOT vets. Every retiree is a vet. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:27:24 AM EDT
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I only served my first enlistment.
I am still suffering every day in pain from the stuff that happened to me. (Crushed under a tracked vehicle) And I never deployed to a war zone. So I guess I am part of the problem as seen by a lot here. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:29:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BURN: I only served my first enlistment. I am still suffering every day in pain from the stuff that happened to me. (Crushed under a tracked vehicle) And I never deployed to a war zone. So I guess I am part of the problem as seen by a lot here. Imagine a person of average intelligence and then remember that half of people are dumber than that. Don't let it get to you. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:32:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbleArcher: Break it down, its a discussion forum. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbleArcher: Originally Posted By Kraquine: Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: My guess the problem is a bit more complex and nuanced than "it's because the military is woke". /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif Break it down, its a discussion forum. Military Times |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:32:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: A lot don't last too long after retirement. I hope to be able to say one day I've been retired longer than I was in. I'm a little over halfway there. That's my plan as well. I retired after 21 years in 2006 so I'm getting close. 
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:34:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AbleArcher]
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kraquine: Originally Posted By AbleArcher: Originally Posted By Kraquine: Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: My guess the problem is a bit more complex and nuanced than "it's because the military is woke". /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif Break it down, its a discussion forum. Military Times So Genesis is mostly to blame? |
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