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Posted: 5/11/2024 8:36:44 AM EDT
What is the part I circled in red? I've never seen anything like that. It looks like a water scoop on the front end of the ship.

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That's the rudder at the back of the ship......?
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:39:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:39:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By huntingAz:
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Why is this on the 1st page?
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:40:26 AM EDT
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Never seen it out of water. Damn she has a thick ass! @midcap
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Never seen it out of water. Damn she has a thick ass! @midcap
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Hashtag dumpy.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:56:00 AM EDT
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Never seen it out of water. Damn she has a thick ass! @midcap
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Torpedo protection blisters were added in 1926, which is why she looks so bulky under the waterline.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:56:29 AM EDT
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Hey! I've got rights!

Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:56:42 AM EDT
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Junkies already scrapped the props!
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Lmao

Anyway though...... where are the Screws?
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:57:30 AM EDT
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Have you ever told someone their breath smells like sh!t?

I know why.  And it wasn't them.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 8:59:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By huntingAz:
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Oh, now I see. I thought it was the front end of the ship.
But it's not a clear image of the rudder. I normally see rudders from the side, I guess.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:02:22 AM EDT
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Sorry..., it was early and I hadn't had my coffee.......
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:05:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DnPRK:

Torpedo protection blisters were added in 1926, which is why she looks so bulky under the waterline.
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Originally Posted By chronium76:
Never seen it out of water. Damn she has a thick ass! @midcap

Torpedo protection blisters were added in 1926, which is why she looks so bulky under the waterline.


So they bolted on saddlebags?  Love it!
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:06:43 AM EDT
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Hashtag dumpy.
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Originally Posted By chronium76:
Never seen it out of water. Damn she has a thick ass! @midcap


Hashtag dumpy.



Fuck yeh ! The big girls are always easy.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:07:49 AM EDT
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This week two co workers and I went by antique archeology. I bought a souvenir pen at for her. Couldn’t pass it up as it had San Jacinto on it and I know she will never go back there.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:11:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By B_Ice223:
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Props were removed in 1948 when she was given to Texas. The rudder was also left in place at I think 5* and has never been straightened since.
One of the original props was scrapped, and the other one is currently being restored. It has two of the three original blades and the third is from her sister New York.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:11:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tsonda4570:
This week two co workers and I went by antique archeology. I bought a souvenir pen at for her. Couldn’t pass it up as it had San Jacinto on it and I know she will never go back there.
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Why won't she go to San Jacinto?
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Because someone said "Come And Take It".  And they did.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:21:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:


Why won't she go to San Jacinto?
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Originally Posted By tsonda4570:
This week two co workers and I went by antique archeology. I bought a souvenir pen at for her. Couldn't pass it up as it had San Jacinto on it and I know she will never go back there.


Why won't she go to San Jacinto?
Not enough tourism to support the maintenance cost. Going to be based in Galveston now.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:34:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DnPRK:

Torpedo protection blisters were added in 1926, which is why she looks so bulky under the waterline.
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Originally Posted By chronium76:
Never seen it out of water. Damn she has a thick ass! @midcap

Torpedo protection blisters were added in 1926, which is why she looks so bulky under the waterline.


So, it’s just water weight?
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 9:36:55 AM EDT
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Why is this on the 1st page?
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Originally Posted By huntingAz:
That's the rudder at the back of the ship......?



Why is this on the 1st page?

Well, it was a 50/50 shot at getting the right answer.

ETA: The front end doesn't look much like a modern ship either:

Link Posted: 5/11/2024 10:08:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ranxerox911:

Well, it was a 50/50 shot at getting the right answer.

ETA: The front end doesn't look much like a modern ship either:

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Well, the USS Texas is well over 100 years old.

And the Bulbous Bow design is still very much in use with larger ships such as Super tankers, Container ships & Cruise liners.

Bigger_Hammer
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 10:08:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NRA_guy:

Oh, now I see. I thought it was the front end of the ship.
But it's not a clear image of the rudder. I normally see rudders from the side, I guess.
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You're kind of seeing it from the side there

But yeah, ships are designed to glide through the water rather than just sort of brute force it out of their way. A lot of people tend to think the stern is squared off for some reason.

It's an odd reference, but you see it all the time in minecraft; people build ship hulls as sharp, angular things rather than the round graceful shapes they actually are.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 10:15:04 AM EDT
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There's only one thing more beautiful than the sweet, rounded curves of a ship's hull...
The Texas has some sweet cheeks!
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Originally Posted By Ranxerox911:

Well, it was a 50/50 shot at getting the right answer.

ETA: The front end doesn't look much like a modern ship either:

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Yes it does.  It has a bulbous bow to reduce the bow wave for better efficiency at certain speeds.  It just doesn't have as much of an overhanging bow as modern ships.  

Here's a better perspective from a couple of years ago

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That is the aft of the ship, that is the rudder. When they docked her for the last time, they didn’t straighten the rudder, it’s now stuck like that.

I bet that made it fun to tow her to dry dock.

I’m really glad they fixed her up, she is one of a kind.

Originally Posted By DnPRK:

Torpedo protection blisters were added in 1926, which is why she looks so bulky under the waterline.
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Not to mention that wider makes her a better gun platform, where the Iowa are thinner for speed. I like the watch the Battleship NJ guy. I’d like to she her too, but I don’t want to go to NJ.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 10:32:13 AM EDT
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The guy at the drydock tour said that the rudder has been stuck that way for decades (possibly since decommissioning, I can't remember) and that the pivot points were packed with, among pitch and other things, hundreds of pounds of very, very gross beef tallow.  

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Originally Posted By Pallas:
That is the aft of the ship, that is the rudder. When they docked her for the last time, they didn't straighten the rudder, it's now stuck like that.

I bet that made it fun to tow her to dry dock.

I'm really glad they fixed her up, she is one of a kind.



Not to mention that wider makes her a better gun platform, where the Iowa are thinner for speed. I like the watch the Battleship NJ guy. I'd like to she her too, but I don't want to go to NJ.
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Are the Iowas actually thinner?  I know they're a lot longer which helps with speed, but Iowas got some hips on 'em too.  
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Originally Posted By Pallas:
That is the aft of the ship, that is the rudder. When they docked her for the last time, they didn’t straighten the rudder, it’s now stuck like that.

I bet that made it fun to tow her to dry dock.

I’m really glad they fixed her up, she is one of a kind.



Not to mention that wider makes her a better gun platform, where the Iowa are thinner for speed. I like the watch the Battleship NJ guy. I’d like to she her too, but I don’t want to go to NJ.
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Originally Posted By Pallas:
That is the aft of the ship, that is the rudder. When they docked her for the last time, they didn’t straighten the rudder, it’s now stuck like that.

I bet that made it fun to tow her to dry dock.

I’m really glad they fixed her up, she is one of a kind.

Originally Posted By DnPRK:

Torpedo protection blisters were added in 1926, which is why she looks so bulky under the waterline.


Not to mention that wider makes her a better gun platform, where the Iowa are thinner for speed. I like the watch the Battleship NJ guy. I’d like to she her too, but I don’t want to go to NJ.


They had tender tugs alongside to correct as needed, the foundation said that the slow tow speeds make control of the ship and the issue very minor.

They have discussed the rudder position previously as well. It is not an economical use of funds to repair (and it's a very significant and costly repair/rebuild) considering the static use of the ship, plus the "legend" is that it's stuck at it's last commanded point, so they leave it.

Iowas are wider than New Yorks, and about 5 times the power
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Are the Iowas actually thinner?  I know they're a lot longer which helps with speed, but Iowas got some hips on 'em too.  
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Originally Posted By Deadtired:
Originally Posted By Pallas:
That is the aft of the ship, that is the rudder. When they docked her for the last time, they didn't straighten the rudder, it's now stuck like that.

I bet that made it fun to tow her to dry dock.

I'm really glad they fixed her up, she is one of a kind.



Not to mention that wider makes her a better gun platform, where the Iowa are thinner for speed. I like the watch the Battleship NJ guy. I'd like to she her too, but I don't want to go to NJ.
Are the Iowas actually thinner?  I know they're a lot longer which helps with speed, but Iowas got some hips on 'em too.  

Wider, plus later ships have the blisters integrated into the design from inception, so they aren't noticeable externally.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 10:43:29 AM EDT
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That's the magnetohydrodynamic drive.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 10:46:40 AM EDT
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Can someone explain the numbers on the bow? I believe that they're an indication of how much draft the ship has in the water at a given time, but it's not clear to me why there is a repetition of single digits.
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You guys surely do know a lots of stuff. Seriously.

Thanks for the info.

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You guys surely do know a lots of stuff. Seriously.

Thanks for the info.

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If you have some time to kill

USS Texas - 104 years old and still going
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 11:20:43 AM EDT
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So All the Museum Ships Will Do Tours When They Go To Drydock, Right?
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62 at sea

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Only photo could ever find of all four underway


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How about giving us a photo of the front of the ship?

It would make the job easier.
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OP is definitely not a Navy vet.  And I agree with the comment that OP should not puss out.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 12:33:44 PM EDT
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Lots of folks bring three turrets to a fight. Texas said fuck all that. I gots five.
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Lmfao.
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 12:36:25 PM EDT
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It's her rudder on the stern.... Which is the back.
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They had tender tugs alongside to correct as needed, the foundation said that the slow tow speeds make control of the ship and the issue very minor.

They have discussed the rudder position previously as well. It is not an economical use of funds to repair (and it's a very significant and costly repair/rebuild) considering the static use of the ship, plus the "legend" is that it's stuck at it's last commanded point, so they leave it.

Iowas are wider than New Yorks, and about 5 times the power
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Comparing length though, I think the ratio would favor the TX. I'll have to go back and find the episode where it is discussed. I could, obviously, be wrong.
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It's her rudder on the stern.... Which is the back.
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As opposed to the pointy end
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 1:10:35 PM EDT
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To be fair to OP the pic has no screws in the pic.
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