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Posted: 10/5/2023 11:56:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AASG]
On another forum people are arguing over wether a felon can own a muzzle loader. Somebody said the law changed federally around 2005 and that it's now illegal for felons to own a muzzle loader. I've never heard of that.
(To be clear, I'm not a felon) |
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Federally? As far as I know - yes.
State laws vary with some being fine and some counting loaded muzzleloaders as firearms for the purposes of "prohibited persons". At least one counts all muzzleloaders and airguns as firearms. |
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[#2]
Not the best source of legal advice, but the ATF says yes: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/can-person-prohibited-law-possessing-firearm-own-black-powder-firearm
Note on the state level it's far less certain. |
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If you drop 76 charges on a candidate and he goes up in polls, you might want to consider that you might be part of the problem.
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[#3]
On the Federal level yes.
As long as it doesn't use primers used in firearms ammunition such as a small rifle or 209 Shotgun primer. It has to use flintlock, matchlock, or #10 or #11 caps for ignition. |
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Texas says yes. Not sure about concealed carry though. I want to say that's a no-go but I can't recall what the code said on that.
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[#5]
No argument whatsoever (on the Fed side).
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If the truth makes you uncomfortable, don't blame the truth. Blame the lie that made you comfortable. -James Ng Uni
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[#6]
Maine requires a state license for a felon to own a muzzleloader.
https://www.maine.gov/ifw/docs/Prohibited-Person-Black-Powder-Permit-Application.pdf |
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Call sign: Smack
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KEEP CALM and let ME Carry On.
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[#8]
Not in NY. They could up until a couple years ago.
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[#9]
I know a few guys who are Felons and only own Air rifles (those big bore, scuba tank charged ones) and black powder as they say according to their Parole officer that what they can legally own.
I would not argue it, but that what they told me and what I've always heard. |
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LARUEMINATI
NRA Endowment Life Member Originally Posted By Boom_Stick: ""AKs are for villagers you have to tell not to shit in their water supply."" |
[#10]
I have a muzzle loader.
It is 100 to 130 years old. Come get it. |
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Originally Posted By BigHunt: On the Federal level yes. As long as it doesn't use primers used in firearms ammunition such as a small rifle or 209 Shotgun primer. It has to use flintlock, matchlock, or #10 or #11 caps for ignition. View Quote Where does it say that? In that link to the ATF I notice it says felons can NOT possess black powder guns that can be readily converted to fire fixed ammunition by swapping barrels or breeches, so I guess revolvers would be out. ETA: meant to say can NOT posses |
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Originally Posted By AASG: Where does it say that? In that link to the ATF I notice it says felons can possess black powder guns that can be readily converted to fire fixed ammunition by swapping barrels or breeches, so I guess revolvers would be out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AASG: Originally Posted By BigHunt: On the Federal level yes. As long as it doesn't use primers used in firearms ammunition such as a small rifle or 209 Shotgun primer. It has to use flintlock, matchlock, or #10 or #11 caps for ignition. Where does it say that? In that link to the ATF I notice it says felons can possess black powder guns that can be readily converted to fire fixed ammunition by swapping barrels or breeches, so I guess revolvers would be out. I don't think a prohibited person can possess ammo either. Primers must be considered to be ammo. I don't know about that but I'd damn sure find out before buying if it affected me. |
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Call sign: Smack
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[#13]
Not here in Fla.
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Empty vessels make the most noise.
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[#14]
In Ohio, they can own the muzzle loader, but it becomes a firearm as soon as it's loaded.
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Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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[#15]
Be careful as owning black powder is considered owning an explosive in some states and is illegal for prohibited people.
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[#16]
The Federal definition of "firearm" is different from many State-specific definitions of "weapon" when it comes to Felons .......
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Cant in WI.
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Rob
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My cop buddy says felons in his neck of the woods have been flexing with crossbows.
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