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Posted: 5/21/2024 10:40:38 AM EDT
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The only difference between the traditional tri-lug and this “Bixler” type is that a traditional uses a spring for tension and the Bixler uses a locking collar?
The Bixler will work on any standard tri-lug muzzle device I currently have installed? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 11:31:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amphibian: I emailed Joe at Shaw yesterday for an update. He said that they are finishing up all the hub thread pattern this week and then moving on to the next thread patterns. Once all all thread patterns are complete, they will send all of them out for DLC which takes another 2 weeks. He said that if anyone doesn't want to wait on the DLC, you can have it cerakoted instead which will cut down a couple weeks. No price difference. So he is estimating another 3 weeks. I'm in no hurry myself. I don't own any Bixler mounts that have the DLC treatment yet so curious to see how that turns out. Appreciate the update. I have no problem waiting but it’s nice to know a rough timeline. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 12:10:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QtrHorse: The only difference between the traditional tri-lug and this "Bixler" type is that a traditional uses a spring for tension and the Bixler uses a locking collar? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QtrHorse: The only difference between the traditional tri-lug and this "Bixler" type is that a traditional uses a spring for tension and the Bixler uses a locking collar? The Bixler will work on any standard tri-lug muzzle device I currently have installed? |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 5:12:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amphibian: Pretty much. I really need to do a video one day...but it is super simple. You don't need to remove the nut from the mount. Just loose enough to clear the lugs then rotate and pull forward so you feel the lugs engage the nut. Tighten suppressor while pulling forward till snug. Yes, and I think it is more forgiving on the tolerances than some of the push/turn mounts as well and again it will lock up rock solid unlike a typical push/turn mount. How much difference in sound suppression would you say it makes vs the traditional 3 lug? Is the juice worth the squeeze? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 6:14:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackbirdRider: How much difference in sound suppression would you say it makes vs the traditional 3 lug? Is the juice worth the squeeze? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackbirdRider: Originally Posted By amphibian: Pretty much. I really need to do a video one day...but it is super simple. You don't need to remove the nut from the mount. Just loose enough to clear the lugs then rotate and pull forward so you feel the lugs engage the nut. Tighten suppressor while pulling forward till snug. Yes, and I think it is more forgiving on the tolerances than some of the push/turn mounts as well and again it will lock up rock solid unlike a typical push/turn mount. How much difference in sound suppression would you say it makes vs the traditional 3 lug? Is the juice worth the squeeze? Back in the day even the push / turn mounts were all external and I recall I think Matt Pallet (previously of SWR) posting something to the effect that they didn't want to do an internal due to degraded performance but you can see it appears to be the norm these days. My point is I can tell the difference but it is all relative. However, my main thing is that it is way more secure than a push / turn 3 lug mount with nothing to get fouled or wear out. I have even put these Bixler mounts on full auto .308's. You would melt the o-ring and kill the spring of a typical push / turn 3 lug mount doing that. I have way more confidence in a Bixler mount than a push / turn 3 lug mount. Yes some work and I have some push / turn 3 lug mounts that do work fine....but I do have some that are all gummed up. I have zero Bixler 3 lug mounts that have given me issues. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 7:10:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackbirdRider: How much difference in sound suppression would you say it makes vs the traditional 3 lug? Is the juice worth the squeeze? https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Omega9k-vs-Wolfman/20-521554/?page=1 |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 8:32:32 PM EDT
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Can the bixler work if the suppressor is covered by the handguards?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2024 5:58:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: amphibian]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By costanza: Can the bixler work if the suppressor is covered by the handguards? The production ones from Shaw will have a SS nut and Titanium male side. In the setup below, you can see that I machined notches to use the same wrenches that you see for Silencerco and GA cans. I torque it down pretty snug so that the nut comes loose instead of it unscrewing from the can body. If I really wanted to, I could use a thread sealant or loctite on the can side. If it unscrewed from the can body, you would have to remove the handguard to get the mount off.  Note also that the Bixler 'nut' has a smaller diameter than push/turn 3 lug mounts as well so you can do things like this:   I thread all my 3 lugged barrels this way.  Otherwise, you get crap like this:  |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 11:36:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJofFL: The smaller the can, the more volume percentage consumed with an internal 3 lug. For reference, DA posted 3-4db difference for an Omega 9k DT vs internal 3 lug at post 49 here… https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Omega9k-vs-Wolfman/20-521554/?page=1 Thank you |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 4:34:41 PM EDT
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Just got a shipping notification for my Bixler 3 Lug. We will see when it hits the mail stream.
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Posted: 5/22/2024 6:28:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amphibian: Joe (Previously of Curtis Tactical) Shaw Armament is doing a run now of the 'Bixler' 3 lug mounts in a few different thread patterns including hub. No springs or o-rings to fail and NO wobble. Locks up rock solid. https://c3junkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Bixler-Patent.png  |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2024 7:04:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HansohnBrothers: |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 7:16:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amphibian: You lost me.. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2024 7:48:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HansohnBrothers: I'm just saying there may or may not be another manufacturer coming out with these this year. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HansohnBrothers: Originally Posted By amphibian: You lost me.. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2024 7:50:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HansohnBrothers: I'm just saying there may or may not be another manufacturer coming out with these this year. Will they have a better website to order from? With fast cheap shipping? |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 8:06:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VaFish: Will they have a better website to order from? With fast cheap shipping? 
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Posted: 5/22/2024 8:10:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amphibian: Interesting....maybe with you guys making and selling them you can give more perspective vs just my own on how robust the Bixler mount is. I don't think there are any caliber restrictions with it as long as you can get an adapter that threads on the respective barrel. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2024 8:11:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HansohnBrothers: Our website, our free shipping. 
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USA
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Posted: 5/22/2024 8:15:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HansohnBrothers: After reading your website, researching the patent and talking with those that have experience with the system, I figured it's worth it to bring these out. Timeframe?  |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2024 8:22:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: amphibian]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HansohnBrothers: After reading your website, researching the patent and talking with those that have experience with the system, I figured it's worth it to bring these out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HansohnBrothers: Originally Posted By amphibian: Interesting....maybe with you guys making and selling them you can give more perspective vs just my own on how robust the Bixler mount is. I don't think there are any caliber restrictions with it as long as you can get an adapter that threads on the respective barrel. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2024 8:39:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VaFish]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HansohnBrothers: Our website, our free shipping. Can you make it so it doesn't look goofy on a MP5 with a YHM R9? To me one of these looks much better than the other.  
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:59:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HansohnBrothers: I'm just saying there may or may not be another manufacturer coming out with these this year. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HansohnBrothers: Originally Posted By amphibian: You lost me.. Well, now I’m interested. Any guestimation of when they will be available? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/23/2024 7:00:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: amphibian]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VaFish: Can you make it so it doesn't look goofy on a MP5 with a YHM R9? To me one of these looks much better than the other. https://i.postimg.cc/kXNPXXKx/mp5w-R9-Trilug.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/8z1QFQmx/mp5w-R9-Direct-Thread.jpg  Some old school pics of AWC cans w/ Bixler mounts on MP5's.  https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/88/1365/flemingheckler-koch-mp5-with-awc-silencer-class-iiinfa https://www.silencertalk.com/tests/5-06-05-MP5/MP5.htm |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:19:17 PM EDT
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Anybody get their Shaw HUB adapter yet?
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:21:07 PM EDT
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Mine showed up but when I put my Wolfman on it on my MPX barrel with ILWT 3 lug it is no longer concentric as it was with the Dead Air OEM 3 lug.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:32:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote: Mine showed up but when I put my Wolfman on it on my MPX barrel with ILWT 3 lug it is no longer concentric as it was with the Dead Air OEM 3 lug. |
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Posted: 5/29/2024 12:50:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amphibian: Does your MPX 3 lug barrel have threads w/ a knurled protector? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amphibian: Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote: Mine showed up but when I put my Wolfman on it on my MPX barrel with ILWT 3 lug it is no longer concentric as it was with the Dead Air OEM 3 lug. No it doesn’t. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2024 7:12:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote: Mine showed up but when I put my Wolfman on it on my MPX barrel with ILWT 3 lug it is no longer concentric as it was with the Dead Air OEM 3 lug. Does it lockup tight when screwed down? |
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Posted: 5/29/2024 1:29:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By peachy: Does it lockup tight when screwed down? Yes it does. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2024 4:58:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote: Yes it does. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote: Originally Posted By peachy: Does it lockup tight when screwed down? Yes it does. |
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Posted: 5/30/2024 10:10:36 AM EDT
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Another positive for the YHM
Been in use solely on Scorpion SBR for couple years with no cleaning and only taken off a couple times Retains zero, good enough for 9, holds tight and retains spring to hold it on I'd buy another if I needed |
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Posted: 5/31/2024 5:10:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amphibian: I have several 'Bixler' mounts from Joe back when he was Curtis Tactical and have zero issues with all of them. I am still waiting for some from him now that he is at Shaw Armament. Do you have another 3 lug barrel to try? Sorry to hear you are having issues but I'm sure they will take care of you. I bought another 3 lug for my barrel along with one for a different barrel, gonna see how those do with the mount before I contact Shaw. |
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