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4l65e Member Joined Oct 2014 Posts 562 EE 100% (36) AL, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 9:49:41 AM EDT LVP is better than hardwood flooring. It's trash and there's nothing luxury about it.

UTex86 Member Joined Jun 2008 Posts 14205 EE 100% (22) TX, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 9:50:56 AM EDT [Last Edit: UTex86] [#1] LVP is better for dogs kids and water. It’s worse for looks and feel.

odiedodi Joined Aug 2009 Posts 40537 EE 0% (0) SGP	Posted: 5/7/2024 9:52:22 AM EDT [Last Edit: odiedodi] [#2] I don't think anybody ever called it luxury. (I know it's in the name, but I mean nobody's actually flexing with LVP.)

Ct1 Member Joined Sep 2014 Posts 2149 EE 100% (121) TX, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 9:52:33 AM EDT [#3] Quote History Originally Posted By UTex86: LVP is better for dogs kids and water. It’s worse for looks and feel. View Quote Correct

twistedcomrade Member Joined Apr 2004 Posts 16980 EE 100% (14) TX, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 9:56:49 AM EDT [#4] A Pex line from my water heater output had a seem in it and a small leak developed and went unnoticed all night. The end of the Pex line had been bent and should have been removed by the builder 10.5 years ago, but it wasn't and now I have an insurance claim. I will not be replacing the hardwood floors. Tile or LVP.
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AeroE I Was Free Born Joined Nov 2000 Posts 97476 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 9:58:33 AM EDT [#5] You're correct, but look at the real trash we use for walls and ceilings. Paper laminated over soft plaster made from calcium sulfate compound.
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Agilt Anticitizen Joined Apr 2006 Posts 18705 EE 0% (0) TX, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:00:22 AM EDT [#6] Quote History Originally Posted By odiedodi: I don't think anybody ever called it luxury. (I know it's in the name, but I mean nobody's actually flexing with LVP.) View Quote I think you underestimate suburban women.
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MedMan91 Joined Mar 2011 Posts 1115 EE 100% (2) SC, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:00:32 AM EDT [#7] LVP is great for what it is. I put it downstairs a few years ago and still looks new with kids, pets, and life. Of course it feels different than legit wood floors but it’s held up and still looks great. In about 3 more years I’ll be able to put down real wood flooring as the kids are getting older

explodingvarmints Member Joined Jan 2013 Posts 9732 EE 0% (0) MI, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:00:57 AM EDT [#8] Quote History Originally Posted By UTex86: LVP is better for dogs kids and water. It’s worse for looks and feel. View Quote I just built my house last year and all but 2 rooms in the house have hardwood. I love the look and the feel but man oh man the scuffing and scratching is driving me nuts. Even had a hardener applied when they finished them.

Ronnoc Valhalla Calls Joined Apr 2005 Posts 12967 EE 100% (15) MO, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:01:06 AM EDT [#9] I put basically the commercial grade in my kitchen. No hardwood for me in a kitchen or bathroom. My parents had their dishwasher leak, their kitchen floor is still warped from the water on the hardwood.
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Blackbeard28 Approach with extreme caution Joined Jan 2005 Posts 38176 EE 100% (3) FL, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:02:16 AM EDT [#10] Quote History Originally Posted By UTex86: LVP is better for dogs kids and water. It’s worse for looks and feel. View Quote

Obo2 Member Joined Feb 2012 Posts 37682 EE 0% (0) SYC	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:05:25 AM EDT [Last Edit: Obo2] [#11] It's what I'll use next time i do a hard surface floor. Easy as hell to install and tear out and holds up better. Sure a real wood floor looks slightly better (many lvps are very close) but once it's scratched to shit the lvp looks better.

LawVol Joined May 2007 Posts 354 EE 100% (11) TN, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:07:19 AM EDT [#12] We refloored our house a couple years ago with Pergo Outlast+, which is a waterproof laminate product. I have big dogs and kids, so durability was a huge factor. The floors look great and still don't have a single scratch, even with 100 pound dogs running down the hall and up and down the stairs.

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I had top 2 floors and stairs done last week with the lpv. 2 dogs and 1 cat. Don’t know about long term, but so far it’s great. We had carpet on the top floor, but had it ripped out and replaced with this stuff. Takes a little getting use to, but it beats the crap out of having to shampoo the carpets once or twice a year.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:13:17 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By twistedcomrade:
A Pex line from my water heater output had a seem in it and a small leak developed and went unnoticed all night. The end of the Pex line had been bent and should have been removed by the builder 10.5 years ago, but it wasn't and now I have an insurance claim. I will not be replacing the hardwood floors. Tile or LVP.

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Tile that looks like hardwood for the win

To me the worst part of tile is dropping something heavy and it might crack. Some of this is how well it is installed, which brings the second problem of having a level surface of either concrete or reinforced surface (second story) to put it on.

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-Kyuss- Member Joined Apr 2016 Posts 10590 EE 0% (0) NC, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:16:47 AM EDT [#15] 17 dogs and a cat, yeah, LVP in this house. I laid hardwood in the last house but at that time it was one dog and a cat, no kids and looked fucking fantastic.
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Kuraki Kingslayer Joined May 2007 Posts 57615 EE 100% (224) WI, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:17:10 AM EDT [#16] I'll never have a wood or carpet floor again. LVP, tile or polished concrete for me.

Casmirblue633 Joined Sep 2012 Posts 499 EE 100% (2) GA, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:21:06 AM EDT [#17] Everything on the main floor is hardwood. I like , it looks good and wears well. If I built a new house today it would be LVP.

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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:22:08 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By MedMan91:
LVP is great for what it is. I put it downstairs a few years ago and still looks new with kids, pets, and life. Of course it feels different than legit wood floors but it’s held up and still looks great. In about 3 more years I’ll be able to put down real wood flooring as the kids are getting older

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In our old house we had all the carpet ripped out and replaced with LVP. The carpet was about 10 years old and looked like crap (builder grade stuff). A year or so later when we went to sell the house, we were told that's one of the reasons the buyers liked our house (that, and the sliding barn doors that I built and replaced the laundry nook doors with)

wildearp CURATOR Joined Jun 2003 Posts 97443 EE 100% (67) AZ, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:24:56 AM EDT [Last Edit: wildearp] [#19] There is nothing luxury about vinyl. I have 100% porcelain tile in my ranch house. Although I don't call it luxury ceramic, it it is most certainly more luxury than bullshit vinyl stuck on mdf planks.
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JimEb Joined Nov 2008 Posts 16023 EE 0% (0) WI, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:26:54 AM EDT [#20] Old house had real wood floors. Spent a lot of sweat equity redoing them. They were beautiful but so f’in delicate. Everything scratches them. Drop anything on them and it’ll leave a dent. Will never, ever bother with real wood floors again.

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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:28:46 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By JimEb:
Old house had real wood floors.

Spent a lot of sweat equity redoing them. They were beautiful but so f'in delicate.

Everything scratches them. Drop anything on them and it'll leave a dent.

Will never, ever bother with real wood floors again.

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230gr LRN dropped from bench height will put a nice ding on polyurethane coated hardwood.

If I ever replace that flooring, I want to do a textured rubber sheet like some gyms have.

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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:29:46 AM EDT

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LVP is good for kitchens and bathrooms where water intrusion is a higher risk. And while some of the styles are a LOT better than when it first hit the market, I still prefer actual hardwood floors over anything else.

And now, story time...

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A few years ago, I worked at HD in the flooring department. We had this guy come in wanting to buy some flooring and have us install it. So we sent out the crew to measure so he could get his quote. When the crew got there, he wanted them to measure the walls, too. Normally, that's handled differently as HD didn't have their own crew who did that (at least our location didn't) They'd go through a 3rd party company and set everything up for the customer. But the guys measured his walls for him and put those measurements in the quote as a side note (not part of the actual quote for a dollar amount, just as an addition since there was nowhere to account for it in the flooring quote).

When that guy and his wife came by the store to talk about the quote, he wanted to talk about the wall measurements, too. They wanted to cover not only the floors, but every single wall with LVP. He understood that it would have to be glued onto the walls to hold it up there. And he was willing to pay for it (they had the money judging by the looks of the house and the property it was on). So we made a few calls and got everything set up for him to have an actual quote done with the walls included. But that's not even the weirdest part.

The house was brand new construction that he had built (he owned his own company and had access to all types of construction guys and equipment). But what was weird about it was on the outside, it looked like a steel building you'd see at any industrial site or maybe an overly large garage. But the inside looked like a normal house; studded walls, drywall taped and mudded, etc. So it was a steel building with insulation, then a small gap, then normal stud construction on the inside, again with insulation. Like I said...weird.

The guy and his wife were younger than me, and they were both extremely nice and well put together and well-spoken. And every time they came in, they showed us pictures of the house in the various stages of construction. But I don't think I'll ever forget the first time we saw the pics of the outside and then the inside. I had a perplexed look on my face, and the guy said, "Yeah, it's exactly what you think it it; steel building on the outside, normal house on the inside." But hey, their credit card worked so I had no complaints.

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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:33:12 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By BloodRaven:
LVP is good for kitchens and bathrooms where water intrusion is a higher risk. And while some of the styles are a LOT better than when it first hit the market, I still prefer actual hardwood floors over anything else.

And now, story time...

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A few years ago, I worked at HD in the flooring department. We had this guy come in wanting to buy some flooring and have us install it. So we sent out the crew to measure so he could get his quote. When the crew got there, he wanted them to measure the walls, too. Normally, that's handled differently as HD didn't have their own crew who did that (at least our location didn't) They'd go through a 3rd party company and set everything up for the customer. But the guys measured his walls for him and put those measurements in the quote as a side note (not part of the actual quote for a dollar amount, just as an addition since there was nowhere to account for it in the flooring quote).

When that guy and his wife came by the store to talk about the quote, he wanted to talk about the wall measurements, too. They wanted to cover not only the floors, but every single wall with LVP. He understood that it would have to be glued onto the walls to hold it up there. And he was willing to pay for it (they had the money judging by the looks of the house and the property it was on). So we made a few calls and got everything set up for him to have an actual quote done with the walls included. But that's not even the weirdest part.

The house was brand new construction that he had built (he owned his own company and had access to all types of construction guys and equipment). But what was weird about it was on the outside, it looked like a steel building you'd see at any industrial site or maybe an overly large garage. But the inside looked like a normal house; studded walls, drywall taped and mudded, etc. So it was a steel building with insulation, then a small gap, then normal stud construction on the inside, again with insulation. Like I said...weird.

The guy and his wife were younger than me, and they were both extremely nice and well put together and well-spoken. And every time they came in, they showed us pictures of the house in the various stages of construction. But I don't think I'll ever forget the first time we saw the pics of the outside and then the inside. I had a perplexed look on my face, and the guy said, "Yeah, it's exactly what you think it it; steel building on the outside, normal house on the inside." But hey, their credit card worked so I had no complaints.

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Aside from the wall weirdness, some kind of assessment/tax avoidance for a residence vs a farm or shop structure?

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snakes19 Joined Apr 2006 Posts 13288 EE 100% (2) NY, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:33:54 AM EDT [#24] We have it in the bar area of our finished basement and in the laundry room, it is fine for that. I would not be happy with it in the main living areas vs our hardwoods.

MilHouse-556 Member Joined Nov 2001 Posts 43969 EE 100% (13) OR, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:38:50 AM EDT [#25] I live in the PNW and have dogs. It's almost a requirement.

Chris_1522 Weird gun collector Joined May 2005 Posts 21236 EE 100% (16) MO, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:40:43 AM EDT [#26] Differing people have differing circumstances which leads to differing needs. In my case, vinyl plank flooring is a far better choice to suit my needs. If you don't have those same needs, hardwood may be a better choice for you.
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NotJackMiller Joined Mar 2009 Posts 18418 EE 0% (0) TX, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:42:20 AM EDT [#27] Quote History Originally Posted By AeroE: You're correct, but look at the real trash we use for walls and ceilings. Paper laminated over soft plaster made from calcium sulfate compound. View Quote All of that has several purposes. Do you have any idea how well it works for retarding and suppressing fires?

macro Lets go Brandon!!! Joined Apr 2003 Posts 40405 EE 100% (34) PA, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:42:49 AM EDT [#28] Quote History Originally Posted By UTex86: LVP is better for dogs kids and water. It's worse for looks and feel. View Quote /thread

whiskerz Member Joined Mar 2001 Posts 133318 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:44:35 AM EDT [#29] My hardwood did not have a problem with scratches. The solution was I had then refinished with the same stuff they use on basketball courts.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:47:35 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak:

Tile that looks like hardwood for the win

To me the worst part of tile is dropping something heavy and it might crack. Some of this is how well it is installed, which brings the second problem of having a level surface of either concrete or reinforced surface (second story) to put it on.

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I should have included tile in the poll, it's better especially in hot climates.

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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:50:15 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Kuraki:
I'll never have a wood or carpet floor again. LVP, tile or polished concrete for me.

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This. As soon as we're able, we're taking the carpet out of our house and re-doing the floors. Dogs, having sandy soil, and my wife's gardening habits mean a lot of debris gets tracked in the front/back doors.

I don't care about "fine/luxury" flooring, I just want some shit that won't trap dog hair and the occasional accidental spill anymore.

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BlackTaco Member Joined May 2007 Posts 5529 EE 100% (194) USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:52:09 AM EDT [#33] Quote History Originally Posted By -Kyuss-: 17 dogs and a cat, yeah, LVP in this house. I laid hardwood in the last house but at that time it was one dog and a cat, no kids and looked fucking fantastic. View Quote WTF .gif

AeroE I Was Free Born Joined Nov 2000 Posts 97482 EE 100% (2) USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:52:42 AM EDT [Last Edit: AeroE] [#34] Flooret has a LVP product with a wood top layer. The scratch resistance claim is similar to other hardwood flooring.
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arowneragain Director of Marketing and Ad Revenue Joined Nov 2003 Posts 84318 EE 100% (22) TN, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:54:34 AM EDT [#35] We chose our flooring to live/walk on, not to impress people with finer sensibilities than our own. And I don't say that to criticize those of you with said sensibilities. I'm just saying - the LVP stuff we chose - twice now, once when we built then again when we renovated - meets our needs well.

SteelonSteel Joined Jul 2005 Posts 45151 EE 100% (6) USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:54:43 AM EDT [#36] Quote History Originally Posted By UTex86: LVP is better for dogs kids and water. It’s worse for looks and feel. View Quote I am going to replace the even cheaper fake wood flooring in my basement office with some. I track in snow and grit. On the floors above? Oak. Real Oak.

delemorte Member Joined Jun 2007 Posts 49232 EE 100% (15) NC, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:58:02 AM EDT [Last Edit: delemorte] [#37] Lvp install.. it's ok. I would have preferred actual oak but the cost differential was substantial. But for the second home I was not prepared to drop that kind of coin. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File
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delemorte Member Joined Jun 2007 Posts 49233 EE 100% (15) NC, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 10:59:07 AM EDT [#38] Quote History Originally Posted By -Kyuss-: 17 dogs and a cat, yeah, LVP in this house. I laid hardwood in the last house but at that time it was one dog and a cat, no kids and looked fucking fantastic. View Quote You have 17 dogs? JFC..
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twoisone one is none Joined Mar 2003 Posts 5674 EE 100% (79) NC, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 11:00:54 AM EDT [#39] I’m not hard on my floors. No pets. I did engineered hardwood in the current house, but I’m going back to good old red oak site finished in the next joint. Vinyl is garbage.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:02:03 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By NotJackMiller:

All of that has several purposes. Do you have any idea how well it works for retarding and suppressing fires?

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Yes, I know, although these days I wouldn't bet a dollar on a crew installing fire breaks. Occasionally they hit a joist or a stud.

The functional part is no indication I need to like the product.

There are too many variations of LVT and LVP to place an all encompassing label. Some is almost good enough to line the floor in a dog house, some is fairly good, better than roll flooring or carpet, not as nice as hardwood or hard tile. They all have trades.

One advantage of an LVT or LVP is the ease of replacement if the look gets old. (Barring the glue down versions, don't install that stuff.)

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LatentUser It’s not all about post count. Joined Jan 2009 Posts 13468 EE 100% (6) TX, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 11:02:15 AM EDT [#41] Quote History Originally Posted By UTex86: LVP is better for dogs kids and water. It’s worse for looks and feel. View Quote 100%
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:08:31 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By BlackTaco:

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Originally Posted By -Kyuss-:
17 dogs and a cat, yeah, LVP in this house. I laid hardwood in the last house but at that time it was one dog and a cat, no kids and looked fucking fantastic.

WTF .gif

Agreed.

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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:08:38 AM EDT

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Just sounds like a typical barndominium minus any external frills IMO

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Originally Posted By BloodRaven:
LVP is good for kitchens and bathrooms where water intrusion is a higher risk. And while some of the styles are a LOT better than when it first hit the market, I still prefer actual hardwood floors over anything else.

And now, story time...

Click To View Spoiler

A few years ago, I worked at HD in the flooring department. We had this guy come in wanting to buy some flooring and have us install it. So we sent out the crew to measure so he could get his quote. When the crew got there, he wanted them to measure the walls, too. Normally, that's handled differently as HD didn't have their own crew who did that (at least our location didn't) They'd go through a 3rd party company and set everything up for the customer. But the guys measured his walls for him and put those measurements in the quote as a side note (not part of the actual quote for a dollar amount, just as an addition since there was nowhere to account for it in the flooring quote).

When that guy and his wife came by the store to talk about the quote, he wanted to talk about the wall measurements, too. They wanted to cover not only the floors, but every single wall with LVP. He understood that it would have to be glued onto the walls to hold it up there. And he was willing to pay for it (they had the money judging by the looks of the house and the property it was on). So we made a few calls and got everything set up for him to have an actual quote done with the walls included. But that's not even the weirdest part.

The house was brand new construction that he had built (he owned his own company and had access to all types of construction guys and equipment). But what was weird about it was on the outside, it looked like a steel building you'd see at any industrial site or maybe an overly large garage. But the inside looked like a normal house; studded walls, drywall taped and mudded, etc. So it was a steel building with insulation, then a small gap, then normal stud construction on the inside, again with insulation. Like I said...weird.

The guy and his wife were younger than me, and they were both extremely nice and well put together and well-spoken. And every time they came in, they showed us pictures of the house in the various stages of construction. But I don't think I'll ever forget the first time we saw the pics of the outside and then the inside. I had a perplexed look on my face, and the guy said, "Yeah, it's exactly what you think it it; steel building on the outside, normal house on the inside." But hey, their credit card worked so I had no complaints.

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jb31 NorCal call sign: Duct Tape Joined Jun 2010 Posts 12081 EE 100% (7) KS, USA	Posted: 5/7/2024 11:10:23 AM EDT [#44] I had hickory put in. Harder than oak. It helps keep scratches away and looks good.

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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:12:02 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By JimEb:
Old house had real wood floors.

Spent a lot of sweat equity redoing them. They were beautiful but so f’in delicate.

Everything scratches them. Drop anything on them and it’ll leave a dent.

Will never, ever bother with real wood floors again.

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We have real wood floors throughout the house, except for the bathrooms. Live in the country, work in ag, track in all sorts of stuff.

To me, that's one of the beauties of real wood...just like a beautiful walnut gunstock, it carries the daily wear & tear with elegance. No one in my circles expects wood floors to look like the day they were installed decades later, but they still look nice the way they are. They were made to walk on, after all.

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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:12:25 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak:

Tile that looks like hardwood for the win

To me the worst part of tile is dropping something heavy and it might crack. Some of this is how well it is installed, which brings the second problem of having a level surface of either concrete or reinforced surface (second story) to put it on.

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Yes, I have some tile in the foyer by the basement door. There is a hairline crack across 3 or four tiles which I suspect coincide with the poured basement floor settling with a crack. There are a few other cracks in the unfinished basement portions. The builders here weren’t that good and seem to have been thrifty at the urging of the first owner. The longer I have owned this place the more dumbshit and short cuts for cost savings. I am the buy once cry one over build it type. I built the garage and I had the builder rebar the shit out of it against his thoughts but I was guided by a friend who does commercial work. Seeing I was on fill (which I also had tamped like it was a federal construction project dam footing) I wanted everything in my favor. 8 years no cracks on the uncut 32x50’ haunched slab.

The door and window trim was done by idiots. I always said I was going to redo it but have yet to do so.

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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:13:52 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Agilt:

Aside from the wall weirdness, some kind of assessment/tax avoidance for a residence vs a farm or shop structure?

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Not sure. I never asked him about it. He seemed a bit standoffish in that regard (as am I) so I never pressed. I do know the property was a decent amount (over 100 acres) and the structure was WAY off the road. He showed us a satellite image of the actual property and there was a ton of trees between the house and the road with a long, winding drive. Granted we knew the address due to the measurement quote and the install, but I'm not one to pry so I never looked up exactly where it is.

And in the satellite images it looked like most of the properties around there were the same; lots of acreage with single structures on them.

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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:14:43 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By BloodRaven:
LVP is good for kitchens and bathrooms where water intrusion is a higher risk. And while some of the styles are a LOT better than when it first hit the market, I still prefer actual hardwood floors over anything else.

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A few years ago, I worked at HD in the flooring department. We had this guy come in wanting to buy some flooring and have us install it. So we sent out the crew to measure so he could get his quote. When the crew got there, he wanted them to measure the walls, too. Normally, that's handled differently as HD didn't have their own crew who did that (at least our location didn't) They'd go through a 3rd party company and set everything up for the customer. But the guys measured his walls for him and put those measurements in the quote as a side note (not part of the actual quote for a dollar amount, just as an addition since there was nowhere to account for it in the flooring quote).

When that guy and his wife came by the store to talk about the quote, he wanted to talk about the wall measurements, too. They wanted to cover not only the floors, but every single wall with LVP. He understood that it would have to be glued onto the walls to hold it up there. And he was willing to pay for it (they had the money judging by the looks of the house and the property it was on). So we made a few calls and got everything set up for him to have an actual quote done with the walls included. But that's not even the weirdest part.

The house was brand new construction that he had built (he owned his own company and had access to all types of construction guys and equipment). But what was weird about it was on the outside, it looked like a steel building you'd see at any industrial site or maybe an overly large garage. But the inside looked like a normal house; studded walls, drywall taped and mudded, etc. So it was a steel building with insulation, then a small gap, then normal stud construction on the inside, again with insulation. Like I said...weird.

The guy and his wife were younger than me, and they were both extremely nice and well put together and well-spoken. And every time they came in, they showed us pictures of the house in the various stages of construction. But I don't think I'll ever forget the first time we saw the pics of the outside and then the inside. I had a perplexed look on my face, and the guy said, "Yeah, it's exactly what you think it it; steel building on the outside, normal house on the inside." But hey, their credit card worked so I had no complaints.

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I'd live in that. I'd also have magnetic antenna mounts on the roof with 15-30' towers. And half the building would be a shop.

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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:15:41 AM EDT

[#49]

Funny, I was thinking about starting a thread asking about impressions on LVP.

My new house will be completed early next month, and aside from the bathrooms and laundry room, it's all LVP. No carpet anywhere.

I have no pets, and will have an 11 year old step son. I suspect we won't have any wear-and-tear issues. The planking looks good and should be durable. I like it a lot.

My older sister and husband had their house refloored about 15 years ago with some dark brown looks-like-wood tile. I like it, but the dark color they went with makes lint and dust show up really easily. You'd have to vacuum every damn day to avoid it. The LVP I went with is a lighter brown wood appearance.

Now she's making $15 an hour as a 'tard wrangler with a degree in women's studies... - tommytrauma

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