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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:38:24 AM EDT
Right out the gate I'm thinking of the following:
Daewoo K2..... I miss mine and somebody here needs to clone them Bushmaster ACR/Magpul Masada......this idea had so much promise AR180......yet again another awesome idea that just didn't pan out greatly What other 5.56 rifles should've have done better here on the US market? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:39:15 AM EDT
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Fn FNC
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:41:05 AM EDT
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I always liked the Valmet M-76, but never was able to get one before the import ban.
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BC, CAN
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:00:41 AM EDT
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While hardly unknown, the AUG should have been a lot more popular than it was.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:03:06 AM EDT
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"I mean.....every once in a while you have to take a 5.56 platform, tie it to a tree, and bash it over the head with a shovel."
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:03:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Beamy: AR180......yet again another awesome idea that just didn't pan out greatly ? The AR-18/180 is one of the most influential rifles of the last 50-75 years. Most modern military rifles have an operating system based around it's design. You can buy a modern version of it from Brownells right now. |
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ITA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:07:45 AM EDT
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As a collector Pretty much most of the Cold War era rifles.. some even never saw a semiauto life… Robinson m96, vector cr21, SA80, Famas, AR70 series, etc
Even a 5.56 FAL As a shooter I’d say the Masada |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:10:11 AM EDT
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Stoner 63
M96 expeditionary |
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SGP
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:10:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Janus: ? The AR-18/180 is one of the most influential rifles of the last 50-75 years. Most modern military rifles have an operating system based around it's design. You can buy a modern version of it from Brownells right now. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:10:59 AM EDT
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Stoner 63.
It was perfect for the era. Modular, made with stamped bullshit, looked like it still fit in with the times. It’s the rifle that should have been the top dog but I’m glad it wasn’t because the AR is better, especially with modern manufacturing. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:43:05 AM EDT
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No mini 14 ? If it had been more accurate . . . |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:56:31 AM EDT
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FS2000, really regret trading mine.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:01:15 AM EDT
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Stoner 63
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:08:53 AM EDT
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Remington 7616
The Springfield Brazilian 5.56 FAL The Crossfire! 
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:12:21 AM EDT
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 Bushmaster M17S - Finally, a Bullpup For Straight Guys? ??\u200d???? ?? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:40:04 AM EDT
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The H&K G-41.
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AK, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 3:16:28 AM EDT
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BUSH1 killed the K2 with import bans.
Bushmaster killed the ACR by fucking the pricing up thinking people would pay thru the nose right off the bat for it. The AR180 was viewed as a terrorist weapon thanks to the IRA. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 3:53:01 AM EDT
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The '89 ban killed the possibility of most of these becoming more popular here in the US, and subsequently their models more refined.
But none, except for perhaps the Daewoo K-2, had the design potential or modularity of Eugene Stoner's M-16/AR-15.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 4:35:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Beamy: Right out the gate I'm thinking of the following: Daewoo K2..... I miss mine and somebody here needs to clone them Bushmaster ACR/Magpul Masada......this idea had so much promise AR180......yet again another awesome idea that just didn't pan out greatly What other 5.56 rifles should've have done better here on the US market? The PSA JAKL is essentially a modernized K2 on an AR lower. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 4:40:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Janus: ? The AR-18/180 is one of the most influential rifles of the last 50-75 years. Most modern military rifles have an operating system based around it's design. You can buy a modern version of it from Brownells right now. The Brownells gun has very little parts compatibility with an original AR18/180 and shares very little with the original aesthetics of the gun. Anyone wanting an original AR-180 is definitely not going to be satisfied with a Brownells. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 4:53:38 AM EDT
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 I Have This Old Gun: Beretta AR 70 Rifle |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 4:58:29 AM EDT
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HK93 and 53
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 6:05:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryA local gun shop had one used on their shelves. I handled it, didn’t leave me impressed. Felt like shouldering a piece of rain gutter. May have been a fantastic shooter for all I know but I wasn’t going to pay what they were asking to find out. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:05:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AllAlphas: The '89 ban killed the possibility of most of these becoming more popular here in the US, and subsequently their models more refined. But none, except for perhaps the Daewoo K-2, had the design potential or modularity of Eugene Stoner's M-16/AR-15. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84523/Valmet76withmags1_jpg-3207727.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84523/20240414_154127_jpg-3207733.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84523/Beretta_AR70_bipod_bayonet_2_jpg-3207729.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84523/20230517_162941_jpg-3207731.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84523/2IMIGalilARMs_jpg-3207734.JPG I’ll be in my bunk. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:09:46 AM EDT
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I liked the Sig 556.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:13:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: I liked the Sig 556. https://www.americanrifleman.org/media/amwngf1w/200971492041-sig556_fs.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=987&height=551&rnd=132615068441130000&quality=60 Glad I picked up a pistol version recently. Such a fun trash blaster. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:26:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: I liked the Sig 556. https://www.americanrifleman.org/media/amwngf1w/200971492041-sig556_fs.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=987&height=551&rnd=132615068441130000&quality=60 I have a 551A1.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:29:14 AM EDT
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Yeah, real-deal Swiss Sig 55x rifles are my vote.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:52:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VEPR39: No mini 14 ? If it had been more accurate . . . You need to have an adult read and explain the title of this thread to you. "In this thread let's talk about 5.56 rifles that should've been more popular" In your haste to get in a negative jab at the Mini14, you fail to realize that it is, and has always been, a very popular rifle. It takes a popular rifle to generate the ability to support a large after market of parts and accessory makers, which the Mini14 does. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:56:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:04:56 AM EDT
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If the current Robinson XCR was released in 2006 instead of the one that was released, it would be way more popular.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:13:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnowMexican: While hardly unknown, the AUG should have been a lot more popular than it was. Bullpups here are just a hard sell, esp with the commonality / familiarity of AR pattern rifles. Americans like the AR15. Its easy to tinker with, easy to assemble, and parts are very easily found. And thanks to companies like PSA, many, many Americans are armed with serviceable rifles that will work just fine for 90% of my countrymen. All that said, I wish the Sig Swiss 550 series was more popular. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:21:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By X-CaptHook: I always liked the Valmet M-76, but never was able to get one before the import ban. @X-CaptHook you may be in luck. Seems I remember Jamin teasing one on here at some point as a potential PSA concept. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:38:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: I liked the Sig 556. https://www.americanrifleman.org/media/amwngf1w/200971492041-sig556_fs.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=987&height=551&rnd=132615068441130000&quality=60 My brother had one, nice rifle |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:38:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ThatGuy91K]
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I really wanted a Tactical Tuna when they first came out.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:38:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VEPR39: No mini 14 ? If it had been more accurate . . . The Mini-14 is a perfect example of a gun that was brought 90% of the way and then the designers just gave up. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:39:32 AM EDT
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I like my daewoo also! I wish someone would make them here too
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:39:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:42:05 AM EDT
[#38]
Stoner 63
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:48:23 AM EDT
[#39]
There are a lot of options but it always comes back to the basic AR15 platform.
All the others have some flaw that makes it less. Even the AR15 isnt perfect but its as close as you are going to get. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:54:15 AM EDT
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Hk g36, atleast more available in the states would be really nice, I think they could have done well here.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:06:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By X-CaptHook: I always liked the Valmet M-76, but never was able to get one before the import ban. Had one stupidly sold it...a little gas leaky around the cover though. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:08:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dbnd: The PSA JAKL is essentially a modernized K2 on an AR lower. Yep develop this further |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:08:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI came to mention the same thing... I owned a M17s for awhile and it had a lot of promise, but really needed a Gen2 developed. Better trigger, weight reduction & some minor tweaks to the ergo's |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:09:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolfy42: There are a lot of options but it always comes back to the basic AR15 platform. All the others have some flaw that makes it less. Even the AR15 isnt perfect but its as close as you are going to get. Yessir |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:10:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frank762: The H&K G-41. It is a pain in the ass to charge from low ready if you are a short person such as I. Maybe it would have been better with a collapsible stock. The use of AR mags was a plus. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:14:22 AM EDT
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All of those guns failed for a reason. And that reason is the AR 15. When you look at the combination of features, people want in a modern fighting rifle, nothing even comes close to combining all of those features as well as the AR 15. When you add in the accidental modularity stoner, probably wasn’t even thinking about when he designed the weapon, they’re simply no way, anything can compete with it.
They used to call the Mini 14 the poor mans ZR 15. Now an inexpensive AR 15 is the poor man’s AR 15, a very expensive AR 15 is the rich man’s AR 15, and you’ve got plenty of middle tier stuff for everyone else. I’ve watched so many AR 15 killers come along, but the AR 15 outlived them all. It wasn’t that long ago ago that everyone wanted to stick a piston system on their AR 15. Whatever happened to those? Remember when people said the AK-47 is more reliable, but the AR 15 is more accurate? It turns out that the AR 15 is more accurate and more reliable, and more modular, and more economic, and less expensive, and easier to modify, and easier to work on. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:16:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JKH62]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By X-CaptHook: I always liked the Valmet M-76, but never was able to get one before the import ban. Had a wood stocked 76. I prefer my Galil or Vepr over it. Will be a while before I build my Beretta AR70/90's 
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:19:14 AM EDT
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None of those.
The AR15 exists, so no other 5.56 rifle need bother. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:20:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: I liked the Sig 556. https://www.americanrifleman.org/media/amwngf1w/200971492041-sig556_fs.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=987&height=551&rnd=132615068441130000&quality=60 My favorite.  
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:21:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoadedDrum: If the current Robinson XCR was released in 2006 instead of the one that was released, it would be way more popular. I don’t think so. It is fundamentally the same rifle internally, the exterior had pic rails like every other rifle at the time. If they’d had released MLOC and Dickmod back them people would have seen the rifle as a joke. On top of that. Nothing was going to overcome the Mormon hate Alex Robinson got for supporting Romney. ARFCOM destroyed Robinson out of spite-he didn’t help himself and should have stayed away from him keyboard, but assholes here on this site are why that gun didn’t meet the commercial success it should have. |
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