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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:21:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: AH yes.... let's commit arson. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By wesr228: Start lighting the mother effing LEO’s houses on fired until they learn to do things right. AH yes.... let's commit arson. It’s a shame that violence on houses isn’t treated with the same seriousness when cops do it, |
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USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:56:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AA717driver: I’m sure we can count on the SWAT officers who kicked their door in to back us when it’s time to oppose the Government. They’re likely conservatives, you know. Bak da blew. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:14:17 AM EDT
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When one considers the staggering level of negligence involved in raiding the wrong house, it's equal parts frightening and sad just how rare it is to see anyone fired or criminally charged over it.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:52:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Anoher data point to support my thesis that only cops on here say ACAB. Why do you use it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By UV18: GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI. And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies. Anoher data point to support my thesis that only cops on here say ACAB. Why do you use it? It is their version of the N-Word. Only they are allowed to use it and it is supposed to stop all discussion. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:56:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Imzadi: Yep. Government agents approving of the actions of government agents. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Imzadi: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By right_rudder: Restitution should be paid by officer's wives serving in the innocent family's brothel. this shit would stop real quick Criminal charges against people illegally breaking into peoples’ shouted would also fix it quick. But one hand washes the other in the legal system. Yep. Government agents approving of the actions of government agents. Nut shell. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:09:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BloodRaven: In the front yard? What fucking good does that do? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BloodRaven: Originally Posted By PepePewPew:...detonated a flashbang grenade in her front yard.... In the front yard? What fucking good does that do? Gives plenty of warning to the address that's actually on the warrant? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:11:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: All warrantless searches are presumptively unreasonable. And in these cases the police shouldn’t be allowed to reference the warrant in court since it’s for a different property. This is the problem with Q.I. The issue is not whether it was a 4A violation, but rather whether the officers can assert the affirmative defense of Q.I.... Those advocating for Q.I. are advocating for immunity where it's undisputed that they have violated the Constitution. Which under current precedent requires that they either made no effort to actually identify the correct residence, or were put on notice that they were targeting the wrong house, and did nothing. The IJ really does fantastic work. This brief is beautifully written. https://ij.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/FILED_2024-03-07-Wrong-House-Raid-Jimerson-En-Banc-Pet-FINAL-004.pdf |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:13:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Everything happens every day. You are in a unique time in history where it all has the ability to be perceived at a moment's notice. Reset the background scenery to 1947 with the exact same delivery mechanism and frequency and you would likely shit yourself. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By UTex86: Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Stir that pot. So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day. Everything happens every day. You are in a unique time in history where it all has the ability to be perceived at a moment's notice. Reset the background scenery to 1947 with the exact same delivery mechanism and frequency and you would likely shit yourself. There were swat raids in 1947? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:27:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: There were swat raids in 1947? apparently! |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:29:34 AM EDT
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They should employ pizza delivery boys to go with them to ensure correct address's.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:38:47 AM EDT
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If you think about all the planning that goes into a raid like this why wouldn't you at the very least use google earth and get a street view of the targeted address? Or even the day before drive by and look at it and plan from that?
There is no excuse for them getting the wrong address in this day and age. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:46:19 AM EDT
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A Garmin GPS unit or Google maps and a smart phone are far more accurate than the multiple cops hitting the wrong house.
It's not hard to check one if they were not sure...... |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:48:00 AM EDT
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Perform the same raid on every cop responsible for this?
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:48:35 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13FoxVet: “Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. “ There’s that qualified immunity thing again. The Fourth Amendment is dead and .Gov is fucking its corpse while laughing in citizen’s faces. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:49:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Ignorance about QI is what should be banned. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By twistedcomrade: QI and no knock raids should be illegal in all fifty states. Ignorance about QI is what should be banned. QI should never be given for free or automagicly It has its place but ANY slight misstep/mistake and they should loose it |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:53:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig24680: Perform the same raid on every cop responsible for this? Careful. The JBT mod deleted my post when I suggested the same thing. Apparently what's good for the goose IS NOT good for the gander. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:00:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Smash47: If you think about all the planning that goes into a raid like this why wouldn't you at the very least use google earth and get a street view of the targeted address? Or even the day before drive by and look at it and plan from that? There is no excuse for them getting the wrong address in this day and age. Did you read the article? They DID have photos of the house. “First off, he had a copy of the search warrant and photos of the suspected house, and Karen’s address was clearly affixed to the front of her home.” “Even worse, Karen’s home and the target house looked very different—Karen’s house had an impossible-to-miss wheelchair ramp (which the target house lacked), while the target house had a perimeter fence, a porch, a detached garage, and stairs leading to the front door (which Karen’s house lacked).” |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:28:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Smash47: If you think about all the planning that goes into a raid like this why wouldn't you at the very least use google earth and get a street view of the targeted address? Or even the day before drive by and look at it and plan from that? There is no excuse for them getting the wrong address in this day and age. They had pictures of the correct house, which apparently looked nothing like the house they actually hit... |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:47:11 AM EDT
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Did they at least fix the damage they caused, without making the owner's go through hell to get it done?
There's been more of one of these, where the department basically said, "Our bad! Sorry about your property. Your insurance will make it right." |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:03:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tep0583: Did they at least fix the damage they caused, without making the owner's go through hell to get it done? There's been more of one of these, where the department basically said, "Our bad! Sorry about your property. Your insurance will make it right." i think you already know the answer to that question!! |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:12:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13FoxVet: “Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. “ There’s that qualified immunity thing again. This is why I have zero faith in the courts for the most part even up to the USSC, they sometimes do good but then like this, they are clearly for the side of tyranny. Another reason I will never understand the back the blue Bois, its almost like backing the new age gestapo, a bunch of folks in uniform who feel no remorse for tramping on someone elses rights because they aren't held to the same standards we every day people are.. yes there are some good cops, but even the good ones are questionable if they cant arrest their own boss for breaking a law that any of us would be arrested for. then you have these crooked judges and DAs who are basically telling every other cop and swat team that it is ok to hit the wrong house, and you wont get punished for it. We thought red flag laws where bad before, if these kind of BS raids can go unchecked, then how much worse will it get before the people have had enough and fight back? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:13:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PepePewPew: federal/appellate-courts/ca5/22-10441/22-10441-2024-02-01.pdf?ts=1706812289 Based on the undisputed facts in this case, Lewis failed to use the intelligence he received from the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) that would have easily allowed him to direct the SWAT team to the target house. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:14:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13FoxVet: "Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn't have "fair notice" that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. " There's that qualified immunity thing again. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:16:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tep0583: Did they at least fix the damage they caused, without making the owner's go through hell to get it done? There's been more of one of these, where the department basically said, "Our bad! Sorry about your property. Your insurance will make it right." Happened last year in Galveston, investigation showed "no wrongdoing" and last I heard they were refusing to pay for damages |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:20:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UTex86: In before “until I see every unedited hour of every body camera, every police report, every court decision, the home owner’s driving record and school transcript, the medical history of the K-9 unit, the chief’s breakfast menu, and the deed history going back 200 years it is completely unreasonable to come to any conclusions on this.” Nope. He fucked up. He's fired/getting fired, and is almost certainly unemployable now. His supervisors failed to monitor/control his actions, all the way up the chain. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:21:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Sounds like those assholes on the court are shielding that piece of shit by using QI incorrectly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By 13FoxVet: "Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn't have "fair notice" that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. " There's that qualified immunity thing again. Is it being used incorrectly or is it just the government protecting the government? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:23:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13FoxVet: “Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. “ There’s that qualified immunity thing again. When a mechanic at a dealership fucks up the repair job on your car, do you sue the mechanic or the dealership? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:28:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Police should have to carry insurance just like doctors. Then you'd have to pay'em like doctors. Honestly, I wouldn't mind that. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:30:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AA717driver: I’m sure we can count on the SWAT officers who kicked their door in to back us when it’s time to oppose the Government. They’re likely conservatives, you know. I wish more people would wake up and see it this way, cops aren't going to be on our side, they are becoming the Gestapo new age version. they will happily trample your rights as long as they are still able to have their own and be treated as a class above the rest. look at all the states with anti gun laws like CA, was, ny etc, those cops will gladly strip you of your rights as long as they are exempted from those same stripping of rights. and alot of our military will likely be the same atleast with all these new pro woke minded, gender studies, dei and other bs programs they are shoving into the new recruits. COVID was crucial in removing those who would stand up and say no and who knew right from wrong.. if you as a soldier were willing to put a rapidly created random thing into your body because you were ordered too, what else would you do just because you were ordered too. The ones who had boundaries they wouldn't cross got booted out in one way or another.. similar to how the German military went through and separated those who would blindly follow Hitlers ides, from those who would not comply, and adding them to his political enemies list. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:32:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gearsmithy: What if Karen defended herself while this warrant was being served? Assuming she waxed the officers, do you think she'd be facing charges for it? Pretty sure she would be facing the inside lid of a coffin. And people would cheer. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:39:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jollyg83: She’d be dead and it would be argued as justified. Atleast shed have taken a few of the kings footman with her, especially since those officers would have received no justice anyway. if I was her and I responded with force, I'd hope to take at least a few with me, maybe then they would really think twice about breaking into the wrong house when it results in some of the kings footmen funerals. honestly, the only way this shit changes is people start treating these incidents like a home invasion, because it is, while they may be uniformed, they are acting outside their authority when they hit a house they didn't have the legal right to hit. also Qi needs to be stripped away from judges and DAs more so then the cops. judges should be able to be charged for shit like this, knowing full well they are making a wrong judgment. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:53:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FAIL-SAFE: I live in Waxahachie. I have crossed paths with this guy. He is a total tool bag. One of those guys that lives on energy drinks, uses 'dude' and 'bro' way too much, gels his hair to make it spikey, believes he is a tactical god and because of this believes he is the only one who should have a full-auto. He also acts like he is never wrong, nor has he ever been. And the fact that "good cops" cant or wont arrest bad cops like this is part of the problem. breaking the law is breaking the law, even your boss should be able to be arrested and charged, including the DAs and judges who let this shit slide. the constitution is the supreme law of the land, and no one is supposed to be above it. This 5th court decision opens the door for other police depts and swat teams to be able to hit any house they desire under the guise of "we meant to hit this other house instead".. if these people don't get charged, then why would the next swat team or whoever that does another raid? what if they break in and the situation results in innocent deaths? those officers get to just go home to their families and act like nothing ever happened.. I used to be a supporter for police, but stuff like this, stuff like uvalde, and many other instances has me realizing that for the most part, cops are hired hit teams that can never be convicted of the same crimes any of us would be for doing even a fraction of what most of these cops get away with. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:56:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PepePewPew: And now he can point to a federal appeals court ruling to prove himself right. Two things we should keep in mind about QI: It's a tool that the courts awarded to themselves without any legislative backing. It's a tool that has been so severely abused in recent years as to give convincing evidence that the courts can't be trusted with it. One might conclude that if the courts are going to abuse it to this extent, we need to pass legislation to unambiguously revoke it. You honestly believe that any legislator would back up something that can get them charged as well? I'm sure they enjoy QI just as much too or other forms of it. this beyond voting away. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:58:32 PM EDT
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Congrats. Bad cop or at least a cop doing his job badly made me feel sorry for a Karen.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:13:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Nut shell. Imagine using swat to commit political hits, all while under the guise of "meant to hit this other house at xxxx address", and since the 5th circuit already oked it here, why wouldn't it be ok elsewhere within the states under them?, imagine all the red flag law raids that may start springing up at all these "wrong houses" just coincidentally. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:42:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Those cops and Judges are fucking retards. I guess they just have to appeal again. Break into my house in the middle of the night, and we are going to have a bigger problem than broken windows. This. What happens when someone repels them with a large caliber semi auto rifle and takes a few out. What immunity do they have now. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:50:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waynehead05: Did you read the article? They DID have photos of the house. "First off, he had a copy of the search warrant and photos of the suspected house, and Karen's address was clearly affixed to the front of her home." "Even worse, Karen's home and the target house looked very different Karen's house had an impossible-to-miss wheelchair ramp (which the target house lacked), while the target house had a perimeter fence, a porch, a detached garage, and stairs leading to the front door (which Karen's house lacked)." |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:51:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TXBBQGuy: They had pictures of the correct house, which apparently looked nothing like the house they actually hit... |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 5:09:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TXBBQGuy: Happened last year in Galveston, investigation showed "no wrongdoing" and last I heard they were refusing to pay for damages There’s fifth circuit precedent now that something by like that is a taking. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 5:11:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavymetal762: When a mechanic at a dealership fucks up the repair job on your car, do you sue the mechanic or the dealership? Respondeat superior as a doctrine doesn’t apply to the government. And mechanics aren’t commissioned officers of the state or officers of their corporation. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 5:12:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavymetal762: Then you'd have to pay'em like doctors. Honestly, I wouldn't mind that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavymetal762: Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Police should have to carry insurance just like doctors. Then you'd have to pay'em like doctors. Honestly, I wouldn't mind that. Nah, doctors are a standard deviation or two smarter than cops so scarcity will always make prices higher. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 5:12:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesquidliest: I'm wondering what the value of these "police fucked up and got away with it" threads is anymore. GD is more informed than most when it comes to abusive policing, so this is nothing new. Unless and until idiot cops like this LT and his SWAT crew are held accountable in a way that hurts and deters them for fucking up so obviously and egregiously, there is no point in starting these threads just so the ACAB and the TBL dudes can go at it. Unless watching the ACABs and TBLs talk shit to each other is the point.  
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:03:09 AM EDT
[#43]
Guys, guys, guys.......y'all don't know what it's like. You've never had to walk a mile in the shoes of bumblefuck retards with legal immunity.
It's either this or crackheads running amok in the streets. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:11:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavymetal762: When a mechanic at a dealership fucks up the repair job on your car, do you sue the mechanic or the dealership? Did they violate your civil rights? Is deadly force aimed at you or the occupants of your house? Was the above from incompetence / negligence? If so you likely have a case. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:15:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13FoxVet: “Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. “ There’s that qualified immunity thing again. Ignorance of the law isn't a valid defense. At least that's what cops always say. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:22:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavymetal762: When a mechanic at a dealership fucks up the repair job on your car, do you sue the mechanic or the dealership? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavymetal762: Originally Posted By 13FoxVet: “Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. “ There’s that qualified immunity thing again. When a mechanic at a dealership fucks up the repair job on your car, do you sue the mechanic or the dealership? If a mechanic kicks your door down and raids your house, does the mechanic go to jail or the owner of the dealership? |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:37:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Palm]
[#47]
Locally, we had a new Police Chief that was into the high profile dynamic entry SWAT raids. The City Council had enough of his shit. They called an executive session of the City Council along with the City Manager to discuss Police matters with the Chief of Police.
The end result was the Police Chief had to call his wife for a ride home. The City Manager fired his dumb ass, took away all city property on his person, and had him escorted from the building along with a criminal trespass warning for all city buildings and property. The new Police Chief is not into high profile dynamic entries for SWAT. That is how you handle it in Texas. Officers still retain QI; but you have to behave to keep your Police Officer job. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 1:22:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Palm: Locally, we had a new Police Chief that was into the high profile dynamic entry SWAT raids. The City Council had enough of his shit. They called an executive session of the City Council along with the City Manager to discuss Police matters with the Chief of Police. The end result was the Police Chief had to call his wife for a ride home. The City Manager fired his dumb ass, took away all city property on his person, and had him escorted from the building along with a criminal trespass warning for all city buildings and property. The new Police Chief is not into high profile dynamic entries for SWAT. That is how you handle it in Texas. Officers still retain QI; but you have to behave to keep your Police Officer job. Good on the City Council for doing its job and protecting taxpayers from having to fund judgements for police misconduct. Ultimately the taxpayers and their elected representatives are responsible for the conduct of their employees. That’s why I have no sympathy for taxpayers having to shell out $ as a consequence of their employees misconduct under the color of law. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 1:24:15 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UTex86: In before “until I see every unedited hour of every body camera, every police report, every court decision, the home owner’s driving record and school transcript, the medical history of the K-9 unit, the chief’s breakfast menu, and the deed history going back 200 years it is completely unreasonable to come to any conclusions on this.” LMAO! Hking |
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USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 2:02:39 PM EDT
[#50]
I know I'm pretty stupid person but..
Does this claim that he "didn't know he couldn't do that"? Am I reading that right? "According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside." |
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