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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:11:58 AM EDT
Trump speaks before historic criminal trial over 'hush money'– video Donald Trump was seen arriving in court on Monday in his criminal trial involving the adult film actor Stormy Daniels and the former Playboy model Karen McDougal. Trump, the first former US president to face a criminal trial, is accused of paying Daniels and McDougal to cover up alleged extramarital liaisons that could have damaged his candidacy in the 2016 election. The trial is scheduled to start this morning, with jury selection in Manhattan supreme court. |
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I'm trying to imagine the multiple extra fap sessions the N_Ter's have going at the moment.
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And so it begins… go get’m Don.
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I thought that he had paid them, was not in question.
The alleged criminal acts are falsifying business records to hide it or something... |
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Time has taught me that most are problems of ignorance rather than the absence of intellect.
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For as much money and fame that Trump has, he sure likes some ugly ass bitches. Except for Melania...she's actually pretty
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Take it easy and if it's easy take it twice
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Take it easy and if it's easy take it twice
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Not sure why but he said he was proud to be there.
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Take it easy and if it's easy take it twice
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LOL. Total bullshit.
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Some perspectives on this show trial.
https://amgreatness.com/2024/04/14/the-battle-begins-trumps-trial-tests-american-justice/ |
Spending myself in a worthy course.
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Waiting on the LOLs if / when Trump takes the stand to testify under Oath.
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Originally Posted By PeepEater: In what world do you get to shit talk the DNC and think they won't come after you for things you actually did? It's safer to piss on a row of HA bikes outside of the Buffalo Chip. View Quote Someone needs to shit talk the DNC and expose them for what they are. Whatever my personal options on Trump, him not ducking and hiding is something that we've needed for a long time. |
Make Occam's Razor Great Again
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Big day for the orange man and his opposing forces.
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Gonads & Strife
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Trump judge bars mention of Melania being pregnant during his 'affair' with Playboy model Karen McDougal
The judge in Donald Trump's hush money trial has sensationally allowed prosecutors to introduce evidence of an alleged affair with Playboy model Karen McDougal but not claims that it happened while his wife Melania was pregnant with their son Barron. Judge Juan Merchan said prosecutors could bring evidence that Trump's campaign coordinated with the National Enquirer to suppress the McDougal allegations before the 2016 election. But he stopped short of letting attorneys bring up salacious details of the alleged relationship. Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass told the court: ‘We intend to elicit evidence Karen McDouglas was a former Playboy model who claims to have had a romantic and sexual relations with Mr Trump including while Mr Trump’s wife Melania was pregnant with their child’. He said that they have ‘no intention of describing sexual acts or locales’ where it happened. But the ‘fact this occurred while Melania was pregnant and after the birth of his son speaks directly to the extent to which the defendant believes the story could be damaging to his campaign’, Steinglass said. Trump’s lawyer Todd Blanche argued that the ‘only value is to embarrass President Trump’. He said the claims were ‘salacious with no value’ Judge Merchan said that the evidence should be allowed in except for ‘bringing up that the defendant’s wife was pregnant and this went on and even after she gave birth’ ‘At this moment the prejudicial value excuses the probative value’, he said. McDougal claims she had a ten-month affair and was in love with Trump between 2006 and 2007. She was then paid $150,000 to tell her story to the National Enquirer, but the interview was never published. The ruling kicked off a dramatic start to the historic trial where Merchan refused to recuse himself from the case and wouldn't say if Trump could attend his son Barron's high school graduation. The former president, 77, is facing 34 felony charges of falsifying business records to cover up a $130,000 payment to porn star Stormy Daniels over their alleged affair. Each count he has strenuously denied carries a maximum sentence of four years in prison, but if found guilty he could face a fine or probation as a first-time offender. Continued |
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Originally Posted By realwar: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/19/21/71192003-12103663-image-a-36_1684527106464.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/19/19/71193745-12103663-image-a-29_1684520445380.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By midcap: For as much money and fame that Trump has, he sure likes some ugly ass bitches. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/19/21/71192003-12103663-image-a-36_1684527106464.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/19/19/71193745-12103663-image-a-29_1684520445380.jpg ok, I take back what I asid about her, she's a smoke show. daniels though |
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Judge allows transcript of Trump's infamous Access Hollywood tape into evidence
In another blow to Trump, Judge Merchan allowed in the transcript of his infamous Access Hollywood tape where he joked about grabbing women. The video from 2005 where Trump says 'grab them by the p****' will not be played, but jurors will be read what he said. Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass said that it was ‘incendiary’ and that it was an ‘admission, or at the very least a description of sexual assault’. Steinglass said that the ‘reparations for the upcoming Presidential debate were ‘interrupted by the need to do damage control’. He said that this ‘is more than just comments of a sexual nature’ . But Merchan denied a request to introduce reports that were published after the Access Hollywood tape came out about three other women accusing Trump. Merchan said they were ‘very, very prejudicial’ and ‘just gossip’. But jurors will be able to see videos of Trump denying the claims, the judge ruled. Link |
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Sorta related, but can’t he sue them for breaching the alleged NDA?
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Originally Posted By Frank_B: https://i.imgflip.com/2eqxfl.jpg View Quote Marsupial Justice...a kangaroo court |
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Trump trial is going exactly as I thought it would: Alan Dershowitz
Trump trial is going exactly as I thought it would: Alan Dershowitz | National Report |
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Originally Posted By chodenut: I thought that he had paid them, was not in question. The alleged criminal acts are falsifying business records to hide it or something... View Quote Statute of limitations ran out on them. Alvin Bragg came up with the novel idea to elevate them to a felony by alleging they were to cover up a second felony. By doing that the misdemeanor statute limits go away. |
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Clown school banana republic.
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He posted this today
This is not a prosecution, it’s a persecution. |
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Can someone summarize what the allegations are here? What crime was committed? I thought any settlements or out-of-court agreements were confidential and by mutual agreement. No MSM site really ever gets into that part of it because they're so TDS'd.
EDIT: Oh okay. I see they're going after him for some BS about how the payments were recorded by his business? All this over less than 300K in payments? Fuck the DA and all the hos. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Judge allows transcript of Trump's infamous Access Hollywood tape into evidence In another blow to Trump, Judge Merchan allowed in the transcript of his infamous Access Hollywood tape where he joked about grabbing women. The video from 2005 where Trump says 'grab them by the p****' will not be played, but jurors will be read what he said. Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass said that it was ‘incendiary’ and that it was an ‘admission, or at the very least a description of sexual assault’. Steinglass said that the ‘reparations for the upcoming Presidential debate were ‘interrupted by the need to do damage control’. He said that this ‘is more than just comments of a sexual nature’ . But Merchan denied a request to introduce reports that were published after the Access Hollywood tape came out about three other women accusing Trump. Merchan said they were ‘very, very prejudicial’ and ‘just gossip’. But jurors will be able to see videos of Trump denying the claims, the judge ruled. Link View Quote What does the Access Hollywood tape have to do with covering up hush money payments? On one hand it looks like the trial is just going to be used to make public all the undisclosed dirt on Trump. The only other thing I can see is that that Alvin Bragg is going to argue that the hush money payments and falsification of business records was done to hide felony rapes. Which would mean those women are going to accuse Trump of rape at some point during the trial, and state Trump agreed to pay them off for in exchange for them to not press charges or go to the press. |
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Originally Posted By BOSN1AC: https://i.imgflip.com/1bbujr.gif https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2018_45/2369516/180320-karen-mcdougal-al-1400.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BOSN1AC: Originally Posted By midcap: For as much money and fame that Trump has, he sure likes some ugly ass bitches. Except for Melania...she's actually pretty https://i.imgflip.com/1bbujr.gif https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2018_45/2369516/180320-karen-mcdougal-al-1400.jpg yes I take back what I said earluer. |
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Originally Posted By Dr_Octagon: Can someone summarize what the allegations are here? What crime was committed? I thought any settlements or out-of-court agreements were confidential and by mutual agreement. No MSM site really ever gets into that part of it because they're so TDS'd. View Quote The actual criminal accusation is about the falsification of records. Paying the hooker and fucking her while his wife was pregnant isn't even part of the trial except as a backstory as to why the records were falsified. |
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How embarrassing this must be. Melania must have zero self respect.
But I bet she is under contract and if she cashes out early, gets nothing. |
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Originally Posted By chodenut: I thought that he had paid them, was not in question. The alleged criminal acts are falsifying business records to hide it or something... View Quote He stated he paid Cohen for legal fees. Cohen paid the ho. Bragg is saying the "legal fees" is a lie and a felony. LOL |
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I'm not always a dick, just kidding, go fuck yourself.
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Originally Posted By Dumak: What does the Access Hollywood tape have to do with covering up hush money payments? On one hand it looks like the trial is just going to be used to make public all the undisclosed dirt on Trump. The only other thing I can see is that that Alvin Bragg is going to argue that the hush money payments and falsification of business records was done to hide felony rapes. Which would mean those women are going to accuse Trump of rape at some point during the trial, and state Trump agreed to pay them off for in exchange for them to not press charges or go to the press. View Quote I think you have to bring up the affair to establish a motive to falsify records. Nobody falsifies records that they had ice cream or helped rescue a puppy so you have to establish a motive. |
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It is funny when stormy took money for a NDA, sued Trump and owes him money.
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Originally Posted By chodenut: I thought that he had paid them, was not in question. The alleged criminal acts are falsifying business records to hide it or something... View Quote |
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NAL, but my understanding is that she was paid off using campaign funds so that the story wouldn’t break before the election in 2016. This would be a felony for election interference. He’s going to argue that his lawyer Coen paid her off all on his own, and completely unrelated, Trump paid Coen the same amount for “lawyer fees”. I could be wrong.
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Originally Posted By midcap: ok, I take back what I asid about her, she's a smoke show. daniels though View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By midcap: Originally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By midcap: For as much money and fame that Trump has, he sure likes some ugly ass bitches. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/19/21/71192003-12103663-image-a-36_1684527106464.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/19/19/71193745-12103663-image-a-29_1684520445380.jpg ok, I take back what I asid about her, she's a smoke show. daniels though I don’t know dude there’s something about a high mileage road whore that trips my trigger |
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Originally Posted By kilo_gsd: NAL, but my understanding is that she was paid off using campaign funds so that the story wouldn't break before the election in 2016. This would be a felony for election interference. He's going to argue that his lawyer Coen paid her off all on his own, and completely unrelated, Trump paid Coen the same amount for "lawyer fees". I could be wrong. View Quote |
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Would you declare God guilty to justify yourself?
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Originally Posted By kilo_gsd: NAL, but my understanding is that she was paid off using campaign funds so that the story wouldn’t break before the election in 2016. This would be a felony for election interference. He’s going to argue that his lawyer Coen paid her off all on his own, and completely unrelated, Trump paid Coen the same amount for “lawyer fees”. I could be wrong. View Quote If Trump spent campaign funds to cover up the affair, then that would be a violation of federal campaign financing laws and have nothing to do with falsification of business records. That isn't what is being alleged. |
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I am definitely not a trump fan.... but this is a wasted effort, politically motivated and a symbolic effort....
My view, for what its worth: trump for all his billions should have just paid her non disclosure agreement directly with his own money, as it was his disguising those payments and the related false filings that created his legal jeopardy. Its a tough case for the prosecution with respect to a convicted perjurer as a witness. Unfortunately for trump the paperwork is pretty cut and dried, hence the indictment. Even if he were deemed guilty, he isn't going to jail and I suspect his numbers will bump with either an acquittal or conviction. I'm holding my breath for the shit show that is sure to come.... |
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Originally Posted By PeepEater: I think you have to bring up the affair to establish a motive to falsify records. Nobody falsifies records that they had ice cream or helped rescue a puppy so you have to establish a motive. View Quote Okay, and how does the Access Hollywood tape establish he had an affair with either woman? It doesn't. The Access Hollywood tape establishes that Trump believes he can grab em by the pussy because he is a billionaire. That would be useful in a sexual assault case. That is why I have the feeling that Stormy and McDougal are going to change their story at some point and claim that Trump sexually assaulted them in some manner and that the hush money payments were not to cover up an affair but done in exchange to not press charges. Since the statute of limitations expired on misdemeanor charges of falsifying business records, there has to be a secondary crime that would allow the DA to elevate this to a felony. |
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My coming was foretold. For me, the gates will open.
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Originally Posted By AdLucem: I am definitely not a trump fan.... but this is a wasted effort, politically motivated and a symbolic effort.... My view, for what its worth: trump for all his billions should have just paid her non disclosure agreement directly with his own money, as it was his disguising those payments and the related false filings that created his legal jeopardy. Its a tough case for the prosecution with respect to a convicted perjurer as a witness. Unfortunately for trump the paperwork is pretty cut and dried, hence the indictment. Even if he were deemed guilty, he isn't going to jail and I suspect his numbers will bump with either an acquittal or conviction. I'm holding my breath for the shit show that is sure to come.... View Quote I'm sure Trump's defense has to incorporate the fact that he doesn't do his own bookkeeping and probably hasn't seen a spreadsheet since he was in his 20s in college. |
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Originally Posted By Dumak: Okay, and how does the Access Hollywood tape establish he had an affair with either woman? It doesn't. The Access Hollywood tape establishes that Trump believes he can grab em by the pussy because he is a billionaire. That would be useful in a sexual assault case. That is why I have the feeling that Stormy and McDougal are going to change their story at some point and claim that Trump sexually assaulted them in some manner and that the hush money payments were not to cover up an affair but done in exchange to not press charges. Since the statute of limitations expired on misdemeanor charges of falsifying business records, there has to be a secondary crime that would allow the DA to elevate this to a felony. View Quote The whole thing here is political but my assumption is that the Access Hollywood stuff ("Grab 'em by the pussy") was unaired because of someone involved with Trump and there was a payoff or something to not air it. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Judge allows transcript of Trump's infamous Access Hollywood tape into evidence In another blow to Trump, Judge Merchan allowed in the transcript of his infamous Access Hollywood tape where he joked about grabbing women. The video from 2005 where Trump says 'grab them by the p****' will not be played, but jurors will be read what he said. Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass said that it was ‘incendiary’ and that it was an ‘admission, or at the very least a description of sexual assault’. Steinglass said that the ‘reparations for the upcoming Presidential debate were ‘interrupted by the need to do damage control’. He said that this ‘is more than just comments of a sexual nature’ . But Merchan denied a request to introduce reports that were published after the Access Hollywood tape came out about three other women accusing Trump. Merchan said they were ‘very, very prejudicial’ and ‘just gossip’. But jurors will be able to see videos of Trump denying the claims, the judge ruled. Link View Quote I wonder if any of them are literate enough to understand such a simple statement, or if they too cannot distinguish between “can” and “did”. I’m also surprised at the naivety of the people that are taken aback by this. Yeah, all those ugly ass rock stars get groupies because of the relationship they have built up over time. Rich old men date young women because the girls just love a man who’s gut covers his bulge in his speedos. |
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Basically this is like charging a guy with felony evidence destruction for hiding a murder weapon without charging him for the murder. The blame really rests with the population for electing people that put idiotic statutes on the books and then keep them there.
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Originally Posted By BOSN1AC: https://i.imgflip.com/1bbujr.gif https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2018_45/2369516/180320-karen-mcdougal-al-1400.jpg View Quote Boobies. She's got 'em, and I like 'em |
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