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Originally Posted By GutWrench: What’s the penalty range for the crime which he is accused of committing? View Quote It was extremely stupid and probably technically a misdemeanor but a felony seems farfetched. First offence non violent crime... there's a legal term for it.... "diddly squat," I think |
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Remember when they had Trump on Russian collusion? Based on the Steele dossier?
The Steele dossier read like a poorly written spy novel. Remember when when they were going to get on tax fraud? They have his tax returns. Crickets! Now it's he paid hush money and the money allegedly came from campaign funds. Most these times money is paid the parties involved do not admit guilt. A nondisclosure agreement was signed. I'm sure the biggest donor to his campaign would be upset. But Trump was the biggest campaign donor in the 2016 election to his campaign. This is to keep Trump off the campaign trail. Because Joe can't campaign with out looking like a total idiot. |
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"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." - Robert A. Heinlein
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and then there is the statute of limitations
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Originally Posted By SnowboundinNH: The "grab 'em by the pussy" comment was actually, "They let you grab 'em by the pussy". I've had girls let me grab 'em by the pussy. It wasn't sexual assault. It was consensual. There's nothing wrong with admitting a girl let you do that. And it was just locker room talk. Girls are a lot worse when they're together in a pack. Way worse. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SnowboundinNH: Originally Posted By PeepEater: Originally Posted By Dumak: Okay, and how does the Access Hollywood tape establish he had an affair with either woman? It doesn't. The Access Hollywood tape establishes that Trump believes he can grab em by the pussy because he is a billionaire. That would be useful in a sexual assault case. That is why I have the feeling that Stormy and McDougal are going to change their story at some point and claim that Trump sexually assaulted them in some manner and that the hush money payments were not to cover up an affair but done in exchange to not press charges. Since the statute of limitations expired on misdemeanor charges of falsifying business records, there has to be a secondary crime that would allow the DA to elevate this to a felony. The whole thing here is political but my assumption is that the Access Hollywood stuff ("Grab 'em by the pussy") was unaired because of someone involved with Trump and there was a payoff or something to not air it. The "grab 'em by the pussy" comment was actually, "They let you grab 'em by the pussy". I've had girls let me grab 'em by the pussy. It wasn't sexual assault. It was consensual. There's nothing wrong with admitting a girl let you do that. And it was just locker room talk. Girls are a lot worse when they're together in a pack. Way worse. It's weird they always take that line out context and not quote the whole thing? Nah it's not weird, it's just N_Ts doing what N_Ts do best. |
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Crooked Joe Biden & His Entire Corrupt Party Are Staging a Show Trial of Their Leading Rival... |
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The duty of a patriot is to protect his nation from its government.
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" |
Originally Posted By chodenut: I thought that he had paid them, was not in question. The alleged criminal acts are falsifying business records to hide it or something... View Quote Not even that. They're saying that the payoffs were campaign expenses and he didn't declare them, therefore he falsified business records to conceal a crime (not declaring them as campaign expenses) which is a rather more serious offense in NY than mis-declaring campaign expenses. But if they said that people would get that it's ridiculous. However, if those payoffs were campaign expenses then Hilary paying for the Steele dossier was a campaign expenses and she's guilty of exactly the same thing... |
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Ted Kennedy had a way of dealing with embarrassing affairs.
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Nobody will be coming to save you, plan accordingly.
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Funny how the judge won't air the trial live so the public can see. Instead they are letting the MSM report on it. Even Trump called for it to be televised Live and has been denied.
Truth About Faulty Legal Theory Behind Trump Case, and "R-Rated" Trial Ahead, w/ Dershowitz & Hammer |
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Looks like hush money payments are taxable.
Wonder of those women declared them as income????? https://thedailycpa.com/are-settlements-from-a-non-disclosure-agreements-taxable/ |
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KEEP CALM and let ME Carry On.
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Trump arrived to court with his deputy communications chief Margo Martin.
Margo, an Oklahoma native, previously served as the Deputy Director of Communications for Trump's Save America PAC and served as his press assistant during his time in office Link |
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More than FIFTY of the first 96 jurors in the Trump hush money trial are excused after admitting they CAN'T be fair or impartial
More than 50 of the first 96 potential jurors in the Donald Trump trial were excused on Monday afternoon after admitting they couldn't be impartial in the first criminal trial of a former president in history. The first batch of Manhattan residents were brought into the court and sworn in to see if they qualified for the panel that will decide the fate of the presumptive Republican nominee for president. As they walked in they strained to catch a glimpse of the high-profile defendant and one woman appeared to giggle. Those chosen will ultimately vote on if the 77-year-old is guilty or not guilty of 34 charges of falsifying business records to hide a $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels to stop her discussing their alleged affair before the 2016 election. Each count he has strenuously denied carries a maximum sentence of four years in prison, but if found guilty he could face a fine or probation as a first-time offender. More than 500 potential jurors arrived i court waiting to see if they are needed for the trial that could last up to six weeks. They are faced with 42 questions - including what news networks they watch and whether they have supported QAnon - if they want to qualify. Several of the potential jurors appeared to frequently stare at Trump while the judge introduced the case and read out a list of witnesses who could testify, including his wife Melania Trump. However Merchan made it clear that not all those on the list would take the stand. A young female juror was excused after she said that she had strong feelings about Trump being a Presidential candidate. The question she said yes to was: 'Do you have any strong opinions or firmly held beliefs about former President Donald Trump, or the fact that he is a current candidate for president that would interfere with your ability to be a fair and impartial juror?' Earlier the woman had sparked laughter in court when she said that her pastimes included going 'to the club' and shopping. Another was excused after admitting she couldn't be impartial and said 'I just couldn't do it' as she walked out. Many prospective panelists sat in the back rows stretched their necks to get a look at Trump once in their seats. One woman in the second row from the back on the right giggled and put her hand over her mouth, looking at the person seated next to her with raised eyebrows. There was no discernable reaction from potential jurors when Merchan said the name of the case. They were sworn in at 2:34 p.m. Judge Merchan told them that the case was ‘the People of the State of New York versus Donald J Trump’. ‘The defendant is Mr Donald Trump, who is seated to my right,’ Judge Merchan said before introducing the lawyers for each side. Addressing the jury, Judge Juan Merchan gave them a summary of the case. Continued |
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One candidate gets legally excoriated for relatively minor crimes while others can commit multiple acts of treason and violations of national security and are never held accountable.
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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Trump divides crowd outside NYC courthouse | REUTERS |
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If you can't take the high road, occupy the high ground.
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Originally Posted By GutWrench: How embarrassing this must be. Melania must have zero self respect. But I bet she is under contract and if she cashes out early, gets nothing. View Quote |
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Jonathan Turley: This is legally absurd
Jonathan Turley: This is legally absurd |
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"They want you dead but will settle for your submission" - Malice
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Originally Posted By Blue_Devil_JD: This WHORE of Babylon is trying to tarnish Trumps (RISEN) name. She will fall like the rest. God will see us through to our emperors RISE!!! View Quote Attached File Not Sure if Serious or if you turned 'sarcasm' up past "11"... Amazing post... Either way. Bigger_Hammer |
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LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY,
BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!! |
Originally Posted By SoonerBorn: You are 100% wrong and seem to be posting in order to mislead people. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SoonerBorn: Originally Posted By kilo_gsd: NAL, but my understanding is that she was paid off using campaign funds so that the story wouldn't break before the election in 2016. This would be a felony for election interference. He's going to argue that his lawyer Coen paid her off all on his own, and completely unrelated, Trump paid Coen the same amount for "lawyer fees". I could be wrong. The under score thread sliders strike again |
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Originally Posted By midcap: If I were Trump I'd be proud to be anywhere...look what the CIA did to Kennedy when he became a "problem" View Quote Yep, there are worse things they can do to you than indictment when you are perceived as a problem to the permanent political class establishment. |
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Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: The under score thread sliders strike again View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: Originally Posted By SoonerBorn: Originally Posted By kilo_gsd: NAL, but my understanding is that she was paid off using campaign funds so that the story wouldn't break before the election in 2016. This would be a felony for election interference. He's going to argue that his lawyer Coen paid her off all on his own, and completely unrelated, Trump paid Coen the same amount for "lawyer fees". I could be wrong. The under score thread sliders strike again If you guys actually corrected posts with factual information instead of just sitting around complaining about other members, maybe the thread would actually be informative and clear up misconceptions. It's like 50% of the posts in these threads are just bitching about the critics living rent free in your head or posting tired memes as if that's some profound contribution. "Here comes the Nevertrumpers" "Bet the Nevertrumpers are drooling" "Did I make it before the usual culprits?" "So much thread sliding." So instead of just bitching about this group, why don't you instead post factual knowledge and correct their "100% wrong posts intended to mislead people" instead of just making claims about them being wrong and then running off again like a hit and run with you refusing to stay at the scene? |
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"Hush money". There was an NDA. It's a shame that a whore can't stay bought these days.
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Hope he grabs the judge by the pussy…
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Judge was born in Columbia. May we assume he is a naturalized citizen? Can't find anything that says he is.
https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/meet-judge-juan-merchan-a-colombian-immigrant-who-is-presiding-in-trumps-arraignment |
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KEEP CALM and let ME Carry On.
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Originally Posted By Dumak: Statute of limitations ran out on them. Alvin Bragg came up with the novel idea to elevate them to a felony by alleging they were to cover up a second felony. By doing that the misdemeanor statute limits go away. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dumak: Originally Posted By chodenut: I thought that he had paid them, was not in question. The alleged criminal acts are falsifying business records to hide it or something... Statute of limitations ran out on them. Alvin Bragg came up with the novel idea to elevate them to a felony by alleging they were to cover up a second felony. By doing that the misdemeanor statute limits go away. And to think...plenty of faggots on gun chat forums agree with this fabrication and laugh about it because they hate Orange Man like every other liberal worm does |
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Originally Posted By Lexustech48: "Your Honor, they are some big titties. very big. Yuugggeee if we are being honest here. It was my duty as an American to see these titties as if they were Melania's." View Quote They need to get that guy that does the Trump voice to do a video describing the titties and some other made up shit. May Trumps voice when he shots a load on the boobs, " uggghhhh, get ready for a yuuuggge load of Covfefe" |
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Originally Posted By AdLucem: It was not illegal to make a hush money deal with Daniels to ensure that she didn’t talk about it leading up to the 2016 election. However, it was illegal to: Not declare it as a campaign cost and thus a campaign contribution and then to falsify repaying his lawyer for the payment to the porn star and reporting it as a consulting expense. It was stupid and needlessly risky... Martha Stewart did not go to jail for her actions, she went to jail for lying to the FBI. View Quote She consulted this dick! |
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Originally Posted By RealityCheck0311: If you guys actually corrected posts with factual information instead of just sitting around complaining about other members, maybe the thread would actually be informative and clear up misconceptions. It's like 50% of the posts in these threads are just bitching about the critics living rent free in your head or posting tired memes as if that's some profound contribution. "Here comes the Nevertrumpers" "Bet the Nevertrumpers are drooling" "Did I make it before the usual culprits?" "So much thread sliding." So instead of just bitching about this group, why don't you instead post factual knowledge and correct their "100% wrong posts intended to mislead people" instead of just making claims about them being wrong and then running off again like a hit and run with you refusing to stay at the scene? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RealityCheck0311: Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: Originally Posted By SoonerBorn: Originally Posted By kilo_gsd: NAL, but my understanding is that she was paid off using campaign funds so that the story wouldn't break before the election in 2016. This would be a felony for election interference. He's going to argue that his lawyer Coen paid her off all on his own, and completely unrelated, Trump paid Coen the same amount for "lawyer fees". I could be wrong. The under score thread sliders strike again If you guys actually corrected posts with factual information instead of just sitting around complaining about other members, maybe the thread would actually be informative and clear up misconceptions. It's like 50% of the posts in these threads are just bitching about the critics living rent free in your head or posting tired memes as if that's some profound contribution. "Here comes the Nevertrumpers" "Bet the Nevertrumpers are drooling" "Did I make it before the usual culprits?" "So much thread sliding." So instead of just bitching about this group, why don't you instead post factual knowledge and correct their "100% wrong posts intended to mislead people" instead of just making claims about them being wrong and then running off again like a hit and run with you refusing to stay at the scene? they're not arguing in good faith, so why bother |
1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual
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Trump says judge will not allow him to attend his sons graduation
ELECTION INTERFERENCE! |
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The circus outside the courthouse
Fights and Clashes during Protests outside Trump's Court Hearing NYC |
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Originally Posted By RealityCheck0311: If you guys actually corrected posts with factual information instead of just sitting around complaining about other members, maybe the thread would actually be informative and clear up misconceptions. View Quote |
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Would you declare God guilty to justify yourself?
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Originally Posted By realwar: Trump says judge will not allow him to attend his sons graduation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUr_kXNThlw View Quote How many votes is that worth ? Complete bullshit show trial , how much is too f'ing much ? |
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc: One candidate gets legally excoriated for relatively minor crimes while others can commit multiple acts of treason and violations of national security and are never held accountable. View Quote Well, one is a member of the American Communist party and the other is Trump. |
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Sounds like Voir Dire is working as intended. The judge is dismissing biased jurors.
Trump has to love that he is and will always be haunted by the dumb Q anon shit. Fucking dumbasses spammed the internet with complete garbage now they are dismissing jurors for cause if they knew anything about it. Trumps biggest believers will not be on his jury… lol |
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Gonads & Strife
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The judge wouldn’t be accepted as a jurist. His daughter works for Kamala Harris, Schumer and others. She has made millions on this trial.
It was a nice country for quite a while. |
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Grab 'em by the pussy.
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Originally Posted By Dumak: Okay, and how does the Access Hollywood tape establish he had an affair with either woman? It doesn't. The Access Hollywood tape establishes that Trump believes he can grab em by the pussy because he is a billionaire. That would be useful in a sexual assault case. That is why I have the feeling that Stormy and McDougal are going to change their story at some point and claim that Trump sexually assaulted them in some manner and that the hush money payments were not to cover up an affair but done in exchange to not press charges. Since the statute of limitations expired on misdemeanor charges of falsifying business records, there has to be a secondary crime that would allow the DA to elevate this to a felony. View Quote He was pretty much just stating the way things work for famous/wealthy men. |
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Originally Posted By QueenDeNile: For those of us who can't grasp the relevance of this - how is an affair in 2006 illegal in 2016? This doesn't make a lot of sense. Did she blackmail him? What crime is he accuse of committing? View Quote It's all about the 2024 election. Like all the other Trump cases, and whatever they can throw at him. |
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Originally Posted By SGT_Tentpeg: Would that be Election Interference? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SGT_Tentpeg: Originally Posted By Dumak:DA Bragg is elevating the charges to a felony by alleging that falsifying business records was done to hide another crime, which I believe would also need to be a felony. Would that be Election Interference? Yeah, Bragg is engaging in election interference. |
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Originally Posted By PeepEater: The actual criminal accusation is about the falsification of records. Paying the hooker and fucking her while his wife was pregnant isn't even part of the trial except as a backstory as to why the records were falsified. View Quote If he fucked her, why hasn't the left released CCTV tape of them both entering the same room, or the IC release cellphone locator records showing them in the same location, with nobody else ? If it happened, that footage/data exists, if it exists it would've been gathered, and if it were gathered it would've been leaked already. It hasn't, because it didn't happen. I bet you also believed the pee allegation didn't you ? |
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'You [Antivaxxers] need to be taught a lesson.' - Sokarul
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Originally Posted By GutWrench: Sounds like Voir Dire is working as intended. The judge is dismissing biased jurors. Trump has to love that he is and will always be haunted by the dumb Q anon shit. Fucking dumbasses spammed the internet with complete garbage now they are dismissing jurors for cause if they knew anything about it. Trumps biggest believers will not be on his jury… lol View Quote Dismissing biased jurors who are telling the truth. The ones that lie will make the jury. |
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