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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:08:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: runcible]
[#1]
Even if bringing a gun is legally possible - NJ HTF can help you there - I'm sure it would entail jumping through so many hoops (storage and transport-wise),
as to make it impractical, to say the least. Nothing in life is ever 100%, but I doubt you'll have to fight your way home with a pistol-grip shotgun through the EOTWAWKI. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:11:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ibn_Huq]
[#2]
If you plan to take a walk on the
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:15:56 AM EDT
[#3]
They hate the Constitution in New Jersey. Expecting them to abide by it is how you end up in New Jersey prison
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:21:08 AM EDT
[#4]
Speaking from experience, if you get caught and have an otherwise clean record, a decent lawyer should be able to atleast get you off with a few years probation in lieu of jail time.
Make sure you have around $10-15k on hand before you go. 
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:26:03 AM EDT
[#5]
If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console. It's like they've gone out of their way to make it decidedly inconvenient to carry a gun. NJ: "It has to be locked up." Gun owner: "OK, I'll throw it in the handy 'lockbox' almost every car has, my glove compartment or console." NJ: "Oh, that's not good enough because it is too easy and convenient." |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:28:29 AM EDT
[#6]
What's the point if it's locked up in the trunk unloaded? Are you letting the air out of your spare tire as well?
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:04:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: runcible]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steel-Driver-76: It's like they've gone out of their way to make it decidedly inconvenient to carry a gun. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:08:04 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Decimus1776: Bring it to your room. Do not bring it on casino floor. Unless you're the feds doing some sightseeing of a Country concert, then bring it all and blame it on some random dude. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:08:55 AM EDT
[#9]
NJ Stormtroopers will give you an indefinite stay in that lovely state.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:14:36 AM EDT
[#10]
I have inlaws in that god forsaken state, super fucking anal to never bring anything firearms related.
As somebody has mentioned that pound of cocain is propably a better idea |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:33:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mattpsky]
[#11]
Seconded for bad idea. I haven’t lived there for 11 years but it was horrible then. Also the cops absolutely love pulling over people with out of state plates as mentioned. And now a duty to inform? Bad luck will lock you up forever. Moved there in 2004 after college from Indiana and their laws were incomprehensible to me, but even then I knew to leave everything except an M1 garand at my parents house, and it hasn’t gotten better.
ETA: I hung out with tons of cops and others there and they were generally great people, but it’s a different culture. They pretty much all just agree guns are bad because they get told that from birth and have no experience with it. So they will have no idea what the laws are other than it’s open season to bone you after possession is confirmed. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:39:25 AM EDT
[#12]
In Minecraft take whatever you want. Don’t do anything to attract the attention of the police. I’m not admitting that I have but I know people who carry in NJ as well as foreign countries. I’m in New Jersey multiple times a year for work. I don’t drive like an asshole and I’ve yet to get to visit with any New Jersey cops. But even if I did it’s unlikely that they ever have a clue I had a weapon because I’m as polite as can be during my very rare traffic stops. I’m not advocating breaking any laws but I wouldn’t be very worried about anything.
I haven’t read all their laws but I wonder if a legitimate self defense shooting in NJ is an affirmative defense to breaking their carry laws. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:00:30 PM EDT
[#13]
go to a PA casino. fuck atlantic shitty. problem solved. fuck NJ
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:07:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: vipersbyms]
[#14]
I grew up about 30 minutes from AC and would go there a few times a year until maybe 8 years ago just due to life. Had to go back last June for my daughter and could not believe just how much the city had gone down hill.
About 20 years ago they built "The Walk" and "The Pier" to bring people in for shopping and eating. It seemed to bring a good amount of people and was pretty busy. Now when you come to the first traffic light when you get into the city the first thing you see is an empty anchor store that is part of "The Walk". Several other stores are also empty. Saw maybe a few people around shopping. Some other local restaurants have also closed up shop. It was depressing to see how much it has declined in a short time. Now it's a place where you go to the casino and the only time you leave the casino is to go home. To answer the question: I would not even consider bringing any firearm. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:10:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ParityError]
[#15]
DON'T
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:20:21 PM EDT
[#16]
I used to live in NJ. If I were going back, I wouldn't bother bringing a gun probably. Risk out weighs reward. Depending on where you are parking you also run the risk of it getting stolen.
Bring a can of good mace and a knife. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:27:18 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Decimus1776: Bring it to your room. Do not bring it on casino floor. Vegas won't let you do that either. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:29:23 PM EDT
[#18]
I wouldn't go.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:30:52 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ambridge77: New Jersey... gross. I haven't been there since '87. Funny, that's the year I escaped too but I have been back a few times 'cause family. Thankfully that's not even a good enough reason any more and haven't been back for about 15 years now |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 1:20:20 PM EDT
[#20]
Unless you are a senior member of the Teansters or Steam fitters union, don't even think about it.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 2:23:14 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M1907Sling:  Seems I'mma hafta enjoy debauchery w/o freedom.  if your looking for casinos just go to Louisiana, far more freedoms there, better food tooo and likely cheaper on travel expenses gas wise, likely youll have to deal with tolls etc in new jersey. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 3:27:44 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wganz: OP basically is asking if he sticks his stuff into a meat grinder whether 1 or 2 turns is adequate.  Next, OP will be asking if it is OK to get serious with a knockout brick shit house with BPD. What could go wrong? Alternatively, OP will wanting to know if taking street Fentanyl would be OK to resolve his back pain issues. Is this healthy?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTCyjYjsVc8
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 3:30:47 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elgin25: if your looking for casinos just go to Louisiana, far more freedoms there, better food tooo and likely cheaper on travel expenses gas wise, likely youll have to deal with tolls etc in new jersey.  Plus, I'mma bop down to LBI, b/c I lived there for a summer back in the '80s. Wonder if Barnagate (sp?) lighthouse fell off into the water yet, they were dealing with the beach erosion even then. 
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Posted: 5/4/2024 6:43:53 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M1907Sling: Yea, but no ocean. Plus, I'mma bop down to LBI, b/c I lived there for a summer back in the '80s. Wonder if Barnagate (sp?) lighthouse fell off into the water yet, they were dealing with the beach erosion even then. Lighthouse is still there. The north end did a lot of beach replenishment years ago which protected much of the area during Sandy. LBI has changed quite a bit though, less families from Philadelphia more $ peeps from north Jersey/NY. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 7:06:42 PM EDT
[#25]
As a lifelong NJ resident who now gets to drive to that shithole city every weekend, fuck Atlantic City with a rusty cactus.
The conditions you have to follow to legally possess a gun in NJ make it pointless unless you have a carry permit. If you plan on following the law, there's no point bringing one here for self protection. Otoh, I feel naked every time I drive into AC without one. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 7:14:30 PM EDT
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 7:43:17 PM EDT
[#27]
NJ won't even recognize FOPA. If they find out you have a gun locked in a case in your trunk, you will get arrested and charged.
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:33:06 PM EDT
[#28]
Just don’t do it. You’re not gonna need it.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:30:17 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gotterdammerung: NJ won't even recognize FOPA. If they find out you have a gun locked in a case in your trunk, you will get arrested and charged. This is from the NJSP website: Can I travel through New Jersey with my firearms? Yes. With no unreasonable deviations from your travels you may drive through New Jersey with any type firearm or ammunition. If New Jersey is the State of destination, then the firearms must be legal in this State. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:39:34 AM EDT
[#30]
Originally Posted By M1907Sling: Going to be going to 'Lantic City for a long weekend of debauchery.  Thing is, like any man, I wanna go heeled. And so far as I know, bringing any gun into Joisey is strictly verbotten!!! Fo' sho, ain't gonna be bringing in any handguns, or hollerpoints, as we all know how eeeeeeeeeeeeevil those are.  BUTT!!! During my many ventures up into Noo Yawk state (family up there), I can (legally) at least take a pistol-grip shotgun. The o-ficcial NJ website is a little vague on that issue:https://www.nj.gov/njsp/firearms/transport-firearm.shtml All firearms transported into the State of New Jersey: Shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel, shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances. The firearm should not be directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console. It would seem that, so long as it ain't loaded, no hollerpoints, is in the trunk, etc., I'm GTG. OTOH, I really don't need to be hassled, just for a weekend of fun.  So what sayeth you, O hivemind? Can I bring my pistol-grip Mossy 500 into Joisey, along with a buttload of buckshot? Or am I doomed to go un-heeled?  After reading this post, you must be the type that shoots your gun sideways. NJ will be a great fit |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:43:20 AM EDT
[#31]
Concealed means concealed. Preferably something that isn't registered to you, and that you only handled, cleaned, and loaded while wearing gloves. I just came back from there for a funeral and estate disposal, and I have zero intention of being a victim.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:49:03 AM EDT
[#32]
i would not even consider the trip
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:55:28 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lion: This info is wrong. This is from the NJSP website: Can I travel through New Jersey with my firearms? Yes. With no unreasonable deviations from your travels you may drive through New Jersey with any type firearm or ammunition. If New Jersey is the State of destination, then the firearms must be legal in this State. Funny that. In practice this is not how it's handled. Quite a few prolific cases of people getting hemmed up while traveling through NJ with firearms. They'll arrest you and let a judge sort it out. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:56:51 AM EDT
[#34]
plenty of stories of FOPA being disregarded then you have an uphill battle in the courts
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:03:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: grady]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AFARR: You know how you're presumed innocent until proven guilty. In NJ, if you have a gun/hollow points, you're presumed guilty until you can prove innocence. How much money do you have that you can spend to prove your innocence? This. In NJ the starting point is that all gun and ammo ownership and transportation is unlawful. Certain exceptions apply. The burden is on you to establish the exception. By exception, you can possess a firearm and HP in your home, business, hunting, and at a range. By exception, you can transport both directly between any of those locations, if you have a NJFPID and they’re cased and in the trunk or least accessible area. If don’t have the NJFID and you’re not going directly to or from those locations (don’t stop to eat lunch) the exception doesn’t apply. I believe possession of the NJFPID allows you to make reasonable stops/deviations that you otherwise could not. The NJSP guidance you saw is also about exceptions, like FOPA (going through) or going directly to the above locations. Your journey can’t terminate in NJ anywhere else. And NJ hates FOPA, too. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:05:15 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KnuckleSandwich: Funny that. In practice this is not how it's handled. Quite a few prolific cases of people getting hemmed up while traveling through NJ with firearms. They'll arrest you and let a judge sort it out. I’ve read about some of those nightmares. But I want to know what these people were doing to attract the attention of the police. And once they did assuming they weren’t felony stops how did the cops find out about the guns? |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:09:39 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LnWlf: Jersey passed a duty to inform law last year and highway patrol loves pulling over out of state drivers. The original jack-booted thugs. Worse than the Masshole SP. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:10:47 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xoldsmugglerx: You’ll be fine as long as you follow that guidance from the state. A lot of these posters have no clue or experience with what they’re talking about. The fid card is for purchase, not possession. I know plenty of guys go to nj to hunt from a lot of other states. None have fid cards and none have legal troubles. Just keep your gun in a case and unloaded, you’ll be fine. A handgun is also fine and does not legally need to be registered with the state as you aren’t a resident. I probably wouldn’t bother bringing a gun with you to Atlantic City though. It would have no use and could probably be a problem with the casino’s internal policy. I guarantee that they have internal policies against guns This is true only if going directly to or from a location to which an exception applies. Your friends hunting were ok but only if their guns and ammo are lawful for the game they’re hunting. OP going to AC is not covered by an exception. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:13:55 AM EDT
[#39]
Why do some people try so desperately to invite the man into their life? It could end up a death wish or win the lotto. I was in Atlantic City a long time ago. Except for the most fantastic Sub no one in the world has ever matched, there is nothing worth seeing. Still, not driving 1000 miles for one. I'll just keep trying to make a better one at home.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:23:25 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Last1Left: Plenty of casino's in Cleveland. Everyone here has a gun, probably because we need them. There's plenty of casinos in OP's state of PA. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:23:43 AM EDT
[#41]
The solution is to avoid NJ. Don't they arrest a dozen or so legally carrying people every year for making a wrong turn?
I wouldn't even fly through Newark with a gun. Don't care if it's just a layover. I'd take JFK over Newark, sadly. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:31:19 AM EDT
[#42]
I grew up near exit five, nobody talks like that.
Exit ten, maybe. Don’t bring guns if you’re just visiting. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:33:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bullseye100]
[#43]
Any city in any state can be a shithole. AC is no different but it also has it's good side. Stay near the casinos and on the boardwalk and you'll be just fine. Like always, take extra care a night.
If you do go, make it a point to eat at Angelo's Fairmount Tavern. Their food is amazing. We never go to AC without having lunch or dinner (preferably) there. ETA: NJ does not reciprocate with any other state's CCW permit. Leave the gun home. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:33:52 AM EDT
[#44]
lol.
Why would anyone go into Nee Jersey. I don’t care the reason. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:37:14 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M1907Sling: Seems I'mma hafta enjoy debauchery w/o freedom. Do the GD thing... Spend your debauchery dollars in a 2a friendly state. Stop supporting the commies!! |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:38:53 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullseye100: Any city in any state can be a shithole. AC is no different but it also has it's good side. Stay near the casinos and on the boardwalk and you'll be just fine. Like always, take extra care a night. If you do go, make it a point to eat at Angelo's Fairmount Tavern. There food is amazing. We never go to AC without having lunch or dinner (preferably) there. ETA: NJ does not reciprocate with any other state's CCW permit. Leave the gun home. I live in a shithole third world city. I’m in NJ many times a year. Used to go to AC a lot but haven’t lately. I don’t know if I’ve eaten at Angelo’s or not but I’ll keep it in mind. I have Teterboro for 5 nights coming up in a couple weeks. Might drive down. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 11:19:26 AM EDT
[#47]
Fuck it just FO! Open carry dual wielding Ruger Super RedHawks with dual crossing bandoliers full of hollow points. The wishes of communists don’t override the US Constitution. I’m not even sure how they are allowed to have those laws. Why aren’t we cutting off federal funding? Where are our republican friends? Oh that’s right…
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Posted: 5/5/2024 11:22:43 AM EDT
[#48]
Why do you talk like a fool?
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Posted: 5/5/2024 11:23:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KnuckleSandwich]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pilatuspilot: I’ve read about some of those nightmares. But I want to know what these people were doing to attract the attention of the police. And once they did assuming they weren’t felony stops how did the cops find out about the guns? One dude from TX had the gall to stop and rest in his truck when he was too tired to continue driving. While in commission of this heinous act, and upon contact with LE, I'm sure the oath takers threw questions his way like: Where are you coming from? Where are you going? Why? Where do you work? Any guns, hand grenades, or bazookas in the car? While you can take the 5th in theory, we've all seen how the fine, upstanding upholders of the constitution react to such insolence (not limited to the PRNJ). |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 11:26:19 AM EDT
[#50]
Going to New Jersey is probably the most depressing vacation I can imagine. You should go somewhere else.
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