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Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:21:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:

Sorry to interrupt your copblock ARFblock circle jerk.  Please carry on.
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Originally Posted By UTex86:
Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Stir that pot.


So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day.

Sorry to interrupt your copblock ARFblock circle jerk.  Please carry on.


Oh nooooo another obvious example of criminal behavior by police that’s obvious to everyone oh noooooo
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:21:56 PM EDT
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Those cops and Judges are fucking retards. I guess they just have to appeal again.

Break into my house in the middle of the night, and we are going to have a bigger problem than broken windows.
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:25:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:

Sorry to interrupt your copblock ARFblock circle jerk.  Please carry on.
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Originally Posted By UTex86:
Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Stir that pot.


So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day.

Sorry to interrupt your copblock ARFblock circle jerk.  Please carry on.



We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it.


It's not happening.

It is happening, but not much.

It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better.

Stop talking about it happening.

What's the next step?
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:29:16 PM EDT
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Ignorance about QI is what should be banned.

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GD ignorance or judicial ignorance?
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:30:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:32:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:
Police should have to carry insurance just like doctors.


Many do.
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:34:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UTex86:


So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day.
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Originally Posted By UTex86:
Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Stir that pot.


So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day.


Everything happens every day. You are in a unique time in history where it all has the ability to be perceived at a moment's notice. Reset the background scenery to 1947 with the exact same delivery mechanism and frequency and you would likely shit yourself.
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:36:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mancow:


Everything happens every day. You are in a unique time in history where it all has the ability to be perceived at a moment's notice. Reset the background scenery to 1947 with the exact same delivery mechanism and frequency and you would likely shit yourself.
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Originally Posted By mancow:
Originally Posted By UTex86:
Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Stir that pot.


So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day.


Everything happens every day. You are in a unique time in history where it all has the ability to be perceived at a moment's notice. Reset the background scenery to 1947 with the exact same delivery mechanism and frequency and you would likely shit yourself.


Good.

Wrongs being brought to light is not a bad thing.
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:42:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By right_rudder:
Restitution should be paid by officer's wives serving in the innocent family's brothel.

this shit would stop real quick
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but are the wives $5 BJ's or $500 an hour hotties?
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:44:19 PM EDT
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We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it.


It's not happening.

It is happening, but not much.

It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better.

Stop talking about it happening.

What's the next step?
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Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum.
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:46:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew:


GD ignorance or judicial ignorance?
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GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI.

And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies.
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:47:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wesr228:
Start lighting the mother effing LEO’s houses on fired until they learn to do things right.
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AH yes.... let's commit arson.
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:48:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:


Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum.
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Originally Posted By Hostile1:



We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it.


It's not happening.

It is happening, but not much.

It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better.

Stop talking about it happening.

What's the next step?


Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum.



I forgot - anyone who calls out government corruption / malfeasance is ACAB.

Thanks for reminding me.
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:49:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UV18:



AH yes.... let's commit arson.
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Originally Posted By UV18:
Originally Posted By wesr228:
Start lighting the mother effing LEO’s houses on fired until they learn to do things right.



AH yes.... let's commit arson.

Well slavery and rape were also suggested.
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 10:49:31 PM EDT
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IF the law wont stop them, you know what to do.
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 11:04:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UV18:



It is like a really loud knock.

Court errored on this ruling.
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Originally Posted By BloodRaven:
Originally Posted By PepePewPew:...detonated a flashbang grenade in her front yard....

In the front yard? What fucking good does that do?



It is like a really loud knock.

Court errored on this ruling.
Yeah, but the thing is.... wait, what? Lol
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 11:10:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:


Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum.
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Originally Posted By Hostile1:



We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it.


It's not happening.

It is happening, but not much.

It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better.

Stop talking about it happening.

What's the next step?


Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum.
Lol yesssss, we need to keep GD clear for such weighty topics as Lamar and Drake beefin', or a poll about favorite sock colors.

We mustn't waste these valuable site resources!
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 11:11:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dullard:

Well slavery and rape were also suggested.
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Originally Posted By UV18:
Originally Posted By wesr228:
Start lighting the mother effing LEO's houses on fired until they learn to do things right.



AH yes.... let's commit arson.

Well slavery and rape were also suggested.
Was rape suggested twice, or only once?
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 11:32:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hostile1:



I forgot - anyone who calls out government corruption / malfeasance is ACAB.

Thanks for reminding me.
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Originally Posted By Hostile1:
Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Originally Posted By Hostile1:



We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it.


It's not happening.

It is happening, but not much.

It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better.

Stop talking about it happening.

What's the next step?


Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum.



I forgot - anyone who calls out government corruption / malfeasance is ACAB.

Thanks for reminding me.

 You know the movement to scrutinize bad cops makes some of them nervous.  
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 11:55:29 PM EDT
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As someone that plans and executes search warrants with SWAT, I have no idea how the fuck that can happen.
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As someone who does the same thing, unfortunately the answer is incompetence.

All officers and agencies are not created equal.

In my city, our city police Department and their team are extremely confident and professional. The county not so much. The guys do their best, but  their management is awful.

In a nearby county, we have the opposite. When we need something in that other county, we exclusively go to the county sheriffs office. Our US Attorneys Office will not touch any case where the largest city PD in that jurisdiction has been involved.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 12:07:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew:
Somehow, Waxahachie Police Department (WPD) Lieutenant Mike Lewis didn’t get the memo.
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I live in Waxahachie.  I have crossed paths with this guy.  He is a total tool bag.  One of those guys that lives on energy drinks, uses 'dude' and 'bro' way too much, gels his hair to make it spikey, believes he is a tactical god and because of this believes he is the only one who should have a full-auto.  He also acts like he is never wrong, nor has he ever been.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 12:40:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By right_rudder:
Restitution should be paid by officer's wives serving in the innocent family's brothel.

this shit would stop real quick
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Pics of wives?
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 12:58:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By UV18:


GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI.

And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies.
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The mismatch between the original scope of QI and how it’s now used is a threat to the doctrine.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 1:41:40 AM EDT
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Got to break a few eggs to make an omelette
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:36:13 AM EDT
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This seems so simple to stop.
Have 3 officers in charge sign off on the fact that they are at the correct address. If they raid the wrong house, those 3 are on the hook for damages and can be sued.  It will end.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:50:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kubota3430:
Since the paperwork was correct and the cops went to the wrong house charge the guy leading the fiasco. Breaking Entering, kidnapping, 5th ammd violation, pile the shit on.

Paperwork is wrong and they go the the wrong house (but it is what is on the paperwork) charge the guy in charge for lying under oath.
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Never happen.



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Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:55:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hostile1:



We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it.


It's not happening.

It is happening, but not much.

It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better.

Stop talking about it happening.

What's the next step?
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Originally Posted By UTex86:
Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Stir that pot.


So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day.

Sorry to interrupt your copblock ARFblock circle jerk.  Please carry on.



We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it.


It's not happening.

It is happening, but not much.

It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better.

Stop talking about it happening.

What's the next step?

Start arresting people for talking about it.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 6:48:55 AM EDT
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But thousands of police interactions occur daily with that go perfectly well, so we have to stop focusing on these very, very rare cases.

At least that’s what keeps getting posted here.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 1:50:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FAIL-SAFE:


I live in Waxahachie.  I have crossed paths with this guy.  He is a total tool bag.  One of those guys that lives on energy drinks, uses 'dude' and 'bro' way too much, gels his hair to make it spikey, believes he is a tactical god and because of this believes he is the only one who should have a full-auto.  He also acts like he is never wrong, nor has he ever been.
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Originally Posted By FAIL-SAFE:


I live in Waxahachie.  I have crossed paths with this guy.  He is a total tool bag.  One of those guys that lives on energy drinks, uses 'dude' and 'bro' way too much, gels his hair to make it spikey, believes he is a tactical god and because of this believes he is the only one who should have a full-auto.  He also acts like he is never wrong, nor has he ever been.



And now he can point to a federal appeals court ruling to prove himself right.

Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:


The mismatch between the original scope of QI and how it’s now used is a threat to the doctrine.



Two things we should keep in mind about QI:

It's a tool that the courts awarded to themselves without any legislative backing.

It's a tool that has been so severely abused in recent years as to give convincing evidence that the courts can't be trusted with it.

One might conclude that if the courts are going to abuse it to this extent, we need to pass legislation to unambiguously revoke it.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 2:05:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:
Stir that pot.
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Stop shitting in it.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 2:09:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UV18:



Ignorance about QI is what should be banned.

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That just doesn't have the same ring when you say it in a thread that is a shining example of why it should be abolished.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 2:11:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet:
“Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. “

There’s that qualified immunity thing again.
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Did not have fair notice.

What kind of statist prick comes up with this faggotry?

You need “fair notice” to know that it’s illegal and unconstitutional to kick in someone’s door and raid their home with armed goons?

Wtf kind of shit is this? The judges justifying this need to be removed and disbarred.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 2:13:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hostile1:



I forgot - anyone who calls out government corruption / malfeasance is ACAB.

Thanks for reminding me.
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They're trying to stamp out dissent by labeling it as "ACAB" similar to how people are worried about being labeled "racist"...
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 2:15:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BMSMB:

They're trying to stamp out dissent using by labeling it as "ACAB" similar to how people are worried about being labeled "racist"...
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Originally Posted By Hostile1:



I forgot - anyone who calls out government corruption / malfeasance is ACAB.

Thanks for reminding me.

They're trying to stamp out dissent using by labeling it as "ACAB" similar to how people are worried about being labeled "racist"...



That's literally what's going on.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 2:20:13 PM EDT
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Restitution should be paid by officer's wives serving in the innocent family's brothel.

this shit would stop real quick
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I don't think most guys find black eyes & bruises on their hookers attractive.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 2:24:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet:
“Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside.

There’s that qualified immunity thing again.
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Kinda like those two cops in CA who had the court rule in their favor because no one has told them stealing during a search was wrong.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:37:10 PM EDT
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Had something similar happen to me in Elkhart Indiana.  May have been drug task force and not SWAT.  Long time ago, don’t remember.

Passed out at night from a long day of tailgating at a Notre Dame game.

Dogs start going crazy at the back door.  I go out to see what is going on.  Swat or drug task force at my back door with guns, and also at front.

Then wife come out also.  They ask for me to have someone with the name of Jamal or similar come out.  I told them them I had no idea who that was.  They state they have a warrant to search for him in my home because he skipped on a bond (later found out it was for dealing coke).  Another swat idiot states he knows I am not him because I’m white and they will come into the house to search for him.

I ask to see the warrant.  Reading it as he held it, I laugh, shake my head, in inform the idiot that even still half drunk I can read the address better than him.  

I point down the street and tell them they are one block off.  I think my actual words were along the line of “You f’ing idiot.  The warrant is for X6XX, you are at X5XX” as I pointed down the road.

I call the local PD the next morning to give the CoP my mind.  Low and behold they had no record of it and denied it happened.
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20 houses off.

So most anyone who delivered pizzas or newspapers or sold houses or was a plumber would have a much better concept of house numbering than that "leader"
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:54:52 PM EDT
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This.

Qualified immunity should in no way cover - we fucked up and went to the wrong house. The basis of the warrant is invalid.

Negligence or malfeasance. Pick one.
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew:

Two things we should keep in mind about QI:

It's a tool that the courts awarded to themselves without any legislative backing.

It's a tool that has been so severely abused in recent years as to give convincing evidence that the courts can't be trusted with it.

One might conclude that if the courts are going to abuse it to this extent, we need to pass legislation to unambiguously revoke it.
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I’m not opposed to officers having immunity when they act reasonably and in good faith in a part of the law that has more questions than answers. Allowing them to get away with beating people because in no previous case was it done in that particular chain restaurant is a bit of an overreach.
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:


I’m not opposed to officers having immunity when they act reasonably and in good faith in a part of the law that has more questions than answers. Allowing them to get away with beating people because in no previous case was it done in that particular chain restaurant is a bit of an overreach.
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The whole justice systems immunity needs torn down and built back very carefully.

There needs to be something that punishes a DA for BS prosecution and goes after judges for rubberstamping warrants.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:30:23 PM EDT
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That's an amazing level of incompetence.
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher:


Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum.
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Originally Posted By Hostile1:



We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it.


It's not happening.

It is happening, but not much.

It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better.

Stop talking about it happening.

What's the next step?


Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum.

Again, only the cops are saying ACAB. We are saying that this particular cop is a piece of shit that should be punished for armed kidnapping and home invasion.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:39:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UV18:


GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI.

And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies.
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew:


GD ignorance or judicial ignorance?


GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI.

And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies.

The court disagrees with you. The court believes that this is what QI is.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:42:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew:
Two things we should keep in mind about QI:

It's a tool that the courts awarded to themselves without any legislative backing.
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Worse than that. QI is just the crumbs left for the cops. The courts gave themselves absolute immunity.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:54:48 PM EDT
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Did not have fair notice.

What kind of statist prick comes up with this faggotry?

You need “fair notice” to know that it’s illegal and unconstitutional to kick in someone’s door and raid their home with armed goons?

Wtf kind of shit is this? The judges justifying this need to be removed and disbarred.
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet:
“Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. “

There’s that qualified immunity thing again.


Did not have fair notice.

What kind of statist prick comes up with this faggotry?

You need “fair notice” to know that it’s illegal and unconstitutional to kick in someone’s door and raid their home with armed goons?

Wtf kind of shit is this? The judges justifying this need to be removed and disbarred.

I happen to like the precedent this sets.

Since this was fair notice about a constitutional right, anything NOT in the constitution should certainly be fair game for a 'fair notice' defense.
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Originally Posted By Cycolac:

I happen to like the precedent this sets.

Since this was fair notice about a constitutional right, anything NOT in the constitution should certainly be fair game for a 'fair notice' defense.
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Only if you're in a certain profession...
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 5:58:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UV18:


GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI.

And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies.
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew:


GD ignorance or judicial ignorance?


GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI.

And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies.

But, they did apply it, and here we are talking about it. This is far from the first time it has happened and will not be the last time. We understand. LEO"s continue to get away with things they should not.
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 1:21:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By UV18:


GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI.

And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies.
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Anoher data point to support my thesis that only cops on here say ACAB.  Why do you use it?
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