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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Sorry to interrupt your View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Originally Posted By UTex86: Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Stir that pot. So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day. Sorry to interrupt your Oh nooooo another obvious example of criminal behavior by police that’s obvious to everyone oh noooooo |
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Those cops and Judges are fucking retards. I guess they just have to appeal again.
Break into my house in the middle of the night, and we are going to have a bigger problem than broken windows. |
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Sorry to interrupt your View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Originally Posted By UTex86: Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Stir that pot. So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day. Sorry to interrupt your We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it. It's not happening. It is happening, but not much. It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better. Stop talking about it happening. What's the next step? |
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I think the hardest thing for good LE working for good agencies to really absorb is that there are whole departments full of exactly the complete fuckheads we rail against here. - vectorsc
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Originally Posted By UTex86: So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UTex86: Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Stir that pot. So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day. Everything happens every day. You are in a unique time in history where it all has the ability to be perceived at a moment's notice. Reset the background scenery to 1947 with the exact same delivery mechanism and frequency and you would likely shit yourself. |
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Originally Posted By mancow: Everything happens every day. You are in a unique time in history where it all has the ability to be perceived at a moment's notice. Reset the background scenery to 1947 with the exact same delivery mechanism and frequency and you would likely shit yourself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By UTex86: Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Stir that pot. So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day. Everything happens every day. You are in a unique time in history where it all has the ability to be perceived at a moment's notice. Reset the background scenery to 1947 with the exact same delivery mechanism and frequency and you would likely shit yourself. Good. Wrongs being brought to light is not a bad thing. |
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Originally Posted By Hostile1: We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it. It's not happening. It is happening, but not much. It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better. Stop talking about it happening. What's the next step? View Quote Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum. |
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Originally Posted By Hostile1: We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it. It's not happening. It is happening, but not much. It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better. Stop talking about it happening. What's the next step? Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum. I forgot - anyone who calls out government corruption / malfeasance is ACAB. Thanks for reminding me. |
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Originally Posted By UV18: AH yes.... let's commit arson. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By wesr228: Start lighting the mother effing LEO’s houses on fired until they learn to do things right. AH yes.... let's commit arson. Well slavery and rape were also suggested. |
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Get this and get it straight: crime is a sucker's road and those who travel it wind up in the gutter, the prison or the grave. There's no other end- but they never learn.
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IF the law wont stop them, you know what to do.
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Originally Posted By UV18: It is like a really loud knock. Court errored on this ruling. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Originally Posted By Hostile1: We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it. It's not happening. It is happening, but not much. It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better. Stop talking about it happening. What's the next step? Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum. We mustn't waste these valuable site resources! |
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Originally Posted By Dullard: Well slavery and rape were also suggested. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By Hostile1: I forgot - anyone who calls out government corruption / malfeasance is ACAB. Thanks for reminding me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hostile1: Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Originally Posted By Hostile1: We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it. It's not happening. It is happening, but not much. It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better. Stop talking about it happening. What's the next step? Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum. I forgot - anyone who calls out government corruption / malfeasance is ACAB. Thanks for reminding me. You know the movement to scrutinize bad cops makes some of them nervous. |
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Originally Posted By ThatGuy91K: As someone that plans and executes search warrants with SWAT, I have no idea how the fuck that can happen. View Quote As someone who does the same thing, unfortunately the answer is incompetence. All officers and agencies are not created equal. In my city, our city police Department and their team are extremely confident and professional. The county not so much. The guys do their best, but their management is awful. In a nearby county, we have the opposite. When we need something in that other county, we exclusively go to the county sheriffs office. Our US Attorneys Office will not touch any case where the largest city PD in that jurisdiction has been involved. |
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew: Somehow, Waxahachie Police Department (WPD) Lieutenant Mike Lewis didn’t get the memo. View Quote I live in Waxahachie. I have crossed paths with this guy. He is a total tool bag. One of those guys that lives on energy drinks, uses 'dude' and 'bro' way too much, gels his hair to make it spikey, believes he is a tactical god and because of this believes he is the only one who should have a full-auto. He also acts like he is never wrong, nor has he ever been. |
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Originally Posted By UV18: GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI. And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies. View Quote The mismatch between the original scope of QI and how it’s now used is a threat to the doctrine. |
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This seems so simple to stop.
Have 3 officers in charge sign off on the fact that they are at the correct address. If they raid the wrong house, those 3 are on the hook for damages and can be sued. It will end. |
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Originally Posted By Kubota3430: Since the paperwork was correct and the cops went to the wrong house charge the guy leading the fiasco. Breaking Entering, kidnapping, 5th ammd violation, pile the shit on. Paperwork is wrong and they go the the wrong house (but it is what is on the paperwork) charge the guy in charge for lying under oath. View Quote Never happen. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Hostile1: We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it. It's not happening. It is happening, but not much. It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better. Stop talking about it happening. What's the next step? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hostile1: Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Originally Posted By UTex86: Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Stir that pot. So annoying when posters stir the pot with rare isolated incidents by the very small fraction of bad apples that happen every single day. Sorry to interrupt your We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it. It's not happening. It is happening, but not much. It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better. Stop talking about it happening. What's the next step? Start arresting people for talking about it. |
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But thousands of police interactions occur daily with that go perfectly well, so we have to stop focusing on these very, very rare cases.
At least that’s what keeps getting posted here. |
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Originally Posted By FAIL-SAFE: I live in Waxahachie. I have crossed paths with this guy. He is a total tool bag. One of those guys that lives on energy drinks, uses 'dude' and 'bro' way too much, gels his hair to make it spikey, believes he is a tactical god and because of this believes he is the only one who should have a full-auto. He also acts like he is never wrong, nor has he ever been. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FAIL-SAFE: I live in Waxahachie. I have crossed paths with this guy. He is a total tool bag. One of those guys that lives on energy drinks, uses 'dude' and 'bro' way too much, gels his hair to make it spikey, believes he is a tactical god and because of this believes he is the only one who should have a full-auto. He also acts like he is never wrong, nor has he ever been. And now he can point to a federal appeals court ruling to prove himself right. Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: The mismatch between the original scope of QI and how it’s now used is a threat to the doctrine. Two things we should keep in mind about QI: It's a tool that the courts awarded to themselves without any legislative backing. It's a tool that has been so severely abused in recent years as to give convincing evidence that the courts can't be trusted with it. One might conclude that if the courts are going to abuse it to this extent, we need to pass legislation to unambiguously revoke it. |
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I think the hardest thing for good LE working for good agencies to really absorb is that there are whole departments full of exactly the complete fuckheads we rail against here. - vectorsc
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet: “Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. “ There’s that qualified immunity thing again. View Quote Did not have fair notice. What kind of statist prick comes up with this faggotry? You need “fair notice” to know that it’s illegal and unconstitutional to kick in someone’s door and raid their home with armed goons? Wtf kind of shit is this? The judges justifying this need to be removed and disbarred. |
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Originally Posted By BMSMB: They're trying to stamp out dissent using by labeling it as "ACAB" similar to how people are worried about being labeled "racist"... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BMSMB: Originally Posted By Hostile1: I forgot - anyone who calls out government corruption / malfeasance is ACAB. Thanks for reminding me. They're trying to stamp out dissent using by labeling it as "ACAB" similar to how people are worried about being labeled "racist"... That's literally what's going on. |
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet: “Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. “ There’s that qualified immunity thing again. View Quote Kinda like those two cops in CA who had the court rule in their favor because no one has told them stealing during a search was wrong. |
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Had something similar happen to me in Elkhart Indiana. May have been drug task force and not SWAT. Long time ago, don’t remember.
Passed out at night from a long day of tailgating at a Notre Dame game. Dogs start going crazy at the back door. I go out to see what is going on. Swat or drug task force at my back door with guns, and also at front. Then wife come out also. They ask for me to have someone with the name of Jamal or similar come out. I told them them I had no idea who that was. They state they have a warrant to search for him in my home because he skipped on a bond (later found out it was for dealing coke). Another swat idiot states he knows I am not him because I’m white and they will come into the house to search for him. I ask to see the warrant. Reading it as he held it, I laugh, shake my head, in inform the idiot that even still half drunk I can read the address better than him. I point down the street and tell them they are one block off. I think my actual words were along the line of “You f’ing idiot. The warrant is for X6XX, you are at X5XX” as I pointed down the road. I call the local PD the next morning to give the CoP my mind. Low and behold they had no record of it and denied it happened. |
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20 houses off.
So most anyone who delivered pizzas or newspapers or sold houses or was a plumber would have a much better concept of house numbering than that "leader" |
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew: Two things we should keep in mind about QI: It's a tool that the courts awarded to themselves without any legislative backing. It's a tool that has been so severely abused in recent years as to give convincing evidence that the courts can't be trusted with it. One might conclude that if the courts are going to abuse it to this extent, we need to pass legislation to unambiguously revoke it. View Quote I’m not opposed to officers having immunity when they act reasonably and in good faith in a part of the law that has more questions than answers. Allowing them to get away with beating people because in no previous case was it done in that particular chain restaurant is a bit of an overreach. |
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: I’m not opposed to officers having immunity when they act reasonably and in good faith in a part of the law that has more questions than answers. Allowing them to get away with beating people because in no previous case was it done in that particular chain restaurant is a bit of an overreach. View Quote The whole justice systems immunity needs torn down and built back very carefully. There needs to be something that punishes a DA for BS prosecution and goes after judges for rubberstamping warrants. |
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That's an amazing level of incompetence.
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Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Moon-Watcher: Originally Posted By Hostile1: We are now at the point where they don't even want us to talk about it. It's not happening. It is happening, but not much. It happens a lot, but you couldn't do any better. Stop talking about it happening. What's the next step? Get your own ACAB subforum and discuss ad nauseum. Again, only the cops are saying ACAB. We are saying that this particular cop is a piece of shit that should be punished for armed kidnapping and home invasion. |
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Originally Posted By UV18: GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI. And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By PepePewPew: GD ignorance or judicial ignorance? GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI. And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies. The court disagrees with you. The court believes that this is what QI is. |
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Originally Posted By rb889: Did not have fair notice. What kind of statist prick comes up with this faggotry? You need “fair notice” to know that it’s illegal and unconstitutional to kick in someone’s door and raid their home with armed goons? Wtf kind of shit is this? The judges justifying this need to be removed and disbarred. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By 13FoxVet: “Still, when Karen and her family sued Lewis for violating their Fourth Amendment rights, a divided three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit ruled that qualified immunity shields him from accountability. According to the panel, Lewis didn’t have “fair notice” that ordering a warrantless no-knock raid on the wrong house violates the constitutional rights of the people inside. “ There’s that qualified immunity thing again. Did not have fair notice. What kind of statist prick comes up with this faggotry? You need “fair notice” to know that it’s illegal and unconstitutional to kick in someone’s door and raid their home with armed goons? Wtf kind of shit is this? The judges justifying this need to be removed and disbarred. I happen to like the precedent this sets. Since this was fair notice about a constitutional right, anything NOT in the constitution should certainly be fair game for a 'fair notice' defense. |
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Originally Posted By UV18: GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI. And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By PepePewPew: GD ignorance or judicial ignorance? GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI. And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies. But, they did apply it, and here we are talking about it. This is far from the first time it has happened and will not be the last time. We understand. LEO"s continue to get away with things they should not. |
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Originally Posted By UV18: GD. Very few people here actually understand but want to jump on the ACAB get rid of QI. And the court is 100% wrong in this ruling. This isn't a claim that QI applies. View Quote Anoher data point to support my thesis that only cops on here say ACAB. Why do you use it? |
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