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Originally Posted By Agilt: I think you underestimate suburban women. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Obo2: It's what I'll use next time i do a hard surface floor. Easy as hell to install and tear out and holds up better. Sure a real wood floor looks slightly better (many lvps are very close) but once it's scratched to shit the lvp looks better. View Quote LOL. Real wood floors look like real wood floors. LVP always looks like flat plastic. |
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Originally Posted By odiedodi: Well maybe. When it's part of my job to look at floors though, it opens me up to bias. Pretty much everybody that goes above and beyond shit tier vinyl sheet flooring goes with LVP. If they brag to me, they'd just be bragging about conforming to the latest trend. That being said, I don't personally dislike it. I just don't consider it fancy. View Quote Agreed. I am biased toward old school aesthetics. I see people rip out excellent condition classic kitchens to go with trendy new counters, new black cabinets, with the ubiquitous rectangle tile thing with the mix of clear glass pieces. They wanted it to be different. They had nice looking medium stained oak cabinets that I like a lot. I have mid grade similar cabinets in my place and wish the original owner of my place used the better grade my friend had. The fronts on mine look good but the carcasses are meh especially the cabinets with adjustable shelving. The shelf pin holes get wallowed out. |
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Natural stone is best, large ceramic tile is second.
O.P. should feel ashamed for not including superior materials in the poll. |
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Originally Posted By odiedodi: Well maybe. When it's part of my job to look at floors though, it opens me up to bias. Pretty much everybody that goes above and beyond shit tier vinyl sheet flooring goes with LVP. If they brag to me, they'd just be bragging about conforming to the latest trend. That being said, I don't personally dislike it. I just don't consider it fancy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By Agilt: I think you underestimate suburban women. This is my main point, not that it's a bad product, it's just the name that's wrong. Lol |
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Originally Posted By jb31: I had hickory put in. Harder than oak. It helps keep scratches away and looks good. View Quote This is what I put in. Hand scraped Hickory. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Hatari: Natural stone is best, large ceramic tile is second. O.P. should feel ashamed for not including superior materials in the poll. View Quote Slate stone is pretty common here as it’s locally quarried. Shit is slippery as hell. Lots of folks here use it outdoors, I cannot tell you how many times I’ve slipped on the stuff, winter or other season. |
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Our house came with a carpeted dining room, WTF puts carpet in a dining room? We are going to replace it with LVP once we save up some funds.
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Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64: This is what I put in. Hand scraped Hickory. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/332226/IMG_1137_jpeg-3207882.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/332226/IMG_1143_jpeg-3207883.JPG View Quote Nice and I like the tone. Too often the modern trend is making all hickory grey like barn board or too dark. I had a friend that redid his old farmhouse floors in butternut. It looked fantastic in tones and grain but it was softer than oak. He milled the wood himself off the farm so the price was right. |
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I hate LVP... I'd rather have a high quality laminate or really anything other than carpet
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I was raised in a house with wood floors. Every year mom would strip the paste wax off them. Dad would go around with a sodering iron and a wet rag to take out the dings, then plastic wood to fix the scratches, finally restain with a tiny paint brush. The next day, mom would wax and buff them.
Fuck that shit. I have LVP flooring in my house. |
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I own a flooring business. Its a good product if you buy quality lvp. not home shithole crap.
I prefer real wood and tile in my home. |
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Endeavor to Persevere
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Originally Posted By BloodRaven: Not sure. I never asked him about it. He seemed a bit standoffish in that regard (as am I) so I never pressed. I do know the property was a decent amount (over 100 acres) and the structure was WAY off the road. He showed us a satellite image of the actual property and there was a ton of trees between the house and the road with a long, winding drive. Granted we knew the address due to the measurement quote and the install, but I'm not one to pry so I never looked up exactly where it is. And in the satellite images it looked like most of the properties around there were the same; lots of acreage with single structures on them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BloodRaven: Originally Posted By Agilt: Aside from the wall weirdness, some kind of assessment/tax avoidance for a residence vs a farm or shop structure? Not sure. I never asked him about it. He seemed a bit standoffish in that regard (as am I) so I never pressed. I do know the property was a decent amount (over 100 acres) and the structure was WAY off the road. He showed us a satellite image of the actual property and there was a ton of trees between the house and the road with a long, winding drive. Granted we knew the address due to the measurement quote and the install, but I'm not one to pry so I never looked up exactly where it is. And in the satellite images it looked like most of the properties around there were the same; lots of acreage with single structures on them. The barndominium movement started in Texas as a tax dodge as far as I know. The property taxes on conventional homes are sky high. Not on a machine shed out on rural property. Nowadays they've been fancied up outside and except for the garage portion and the tall doors, there's not much mistaking new examples for a pole barn. Won't be long until barndominiums are conventional in this region, although there is some competition with pre fab sheds. |
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Originally Posted By 4l65e: This is my main point, not that it's a bad product, it's just the name that's wrong. Lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 4l65e: Originally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By Agilt: I think you underestimate suburban women. This is my main point, not that it's a bad product, it's just the name that's wrong. Lol I certainly 100% agree with that. I was just saying that a lot of women live on labels, and you label something LUXURY, and they’re all on that, even if it’s just the newer version of linoleum. |
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"Republic, I like the sound of the word. It means people can live free, talk free, go or come, buy or sell, be drunk or sober however they choose." John Wayne
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Originally Posted By explodingvarmints: I just built my house last year and all but 2 rooms in the house have hardwood. I love the look and the feel but man oh man the scuffing and scratching is driving me nuts. Even had a hardener applied when they finished them. View Quote Hardwood is great for people who don't actually live in the house. |
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Originally Posted By UTex86: LVP is better for dogs kids and water. It’s worse for looks and feel. View Quote Attached File |
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I live in AZ. We went with LVP and Engineered wood in other rooms because real hardwood warps in the heat.
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I love LVP, I've installed a bunch of it, especially the really thick Cali Vinyl stuff. It's quiet, waterproof and always looks brand new.
I do like tile in warmer climates, love how it always feels cool. |
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Plastic is good for laundry room, hobby rooms, not the living space.
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Real or engineered for primary home, LVP for rentals.
Engineered has held up great for us over the last 7 years. Love the non-fake look. 2 different dogs and a few kids. There are a few marks from where a painting fell off the wall from 12ft up, a few sharp knife indents, but that’s about it. Zero scratches from dog nails. Attached File Our old house we turned into a rental had real Hickory floors - absolutely gorgeous, but were horribly soft and ruined quickly. Absolutely do not recommend. Attached File Our new rental has LVP, it doesn’t look bad from pics, up close in person you can tell what it is. I definitely wouldn’t put real or engineered in a rental property. Attached File We also have an Airbnb in Scottsdale, and every inch of the house is tile that looks like wood. It’s been perfect so far. |
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Got some pictures from the builder today... I think the LVP looks great!
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Now she's making $15 an hour as a 'tard wrangler with a degree in women's studies... - tommytrauma
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I remember Granna stripping and waxing the wood floors at their Farmhouse.
It was a lotta work. We have the fancy Vinyl Flooring but I really like the real wood flooring. For us Vinyl is best... |
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Fake is fake. Real is real. You will never see hardwood trying to look like vinyl.
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Originally Posted By UTex86: LVP is better for dogs kids and water. It’s worse for looks and feel. View Quote Correct. I have dogs and kids, and when you have both of those, you get water on the floor. I would love hardwood, but I’m installing LVP because my crew would wreck hardwood within a couple years. |
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Originally Posted By BloodRaven: LVP is good for kitchens and bathrooms where water intrusion is a higher risk. And while some of the styles are a LOT better than when it first hit the market, I still prefer actual hardwood floors over anything else. And now, story time... Click To View Spoiler A few years ago, I worked at HD in the flooring department. We had this guy come in wanting to buy some flooring and have us install it. So we sent out the crew to measure so he could get his quote. When the crew got there, he wanted them to measure the walls, too. Normally, that's handled differently as HD didn't have their own crew who did that (at least our location didn't) They'd go through a 3rd party company and set everything up for the customer. But the guys measured his walls for him and put those measurements in the quote as a side note (not part of the actual quote for a dollar amount, just as an addition since there was nowhere to account for it in the flooring quote). When that guy and his wife came by the store to talk about the quote, he wanted to talk about the wall measurements, too. They wanted to cover not only the floors, but every single wall with LVP. He understood that it would have to be glued onto the walls to hold it up there. And he was willing to pay for it (they had the money judging by the looks of the house and the property it was on). So we made a few calls and got everything set up for him to have an actual quote done with the walls included. But that's not even the weirdest part. The house was brand new construction that he had built (he owned his own company and had access to all types of construction guys and equipment). But what was weird about it was on the outside, it looked like a steel building you'd see at any industrial site or maybe an overly large garage. But the inside looked like a normal house; studded walls, drywall taped and mudded, etc. So it was a steel building with insulation, then a small gap, then normal stud construction on the inside, again with insulation. Like I said...weird. The guy and his wife were younger than me, and they were both extremely nice and well put together and well-spoken. And every time they came in, they showed us pictures of the house in the various stages of construction. But I don't think I'll ever forget the first time we saw the pics of the outside and then the inside. I had a perplexed look on my face, and the guy said, "Yeah, it's exactly what you think it it; steel building on the outside, normal house on the inside." But hey, their credit card worked so I had no complaints. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By wildearp: There is nothing luxury about vinyl. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41996/03f4018817_jpg-2517957-2843960.jpg I have 100% porcelain tile in my ranch house. Although I don't call it luxury ceramic, it it is most certainly more luxury than bullshit vinyl stuck on mdf planks. View Quote Well porcelain cannot be luxury ceramic because porcelain is not ceramic. |
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I've been replacing all the carpet with Pergo .
I think it looks great amd it's affordable for normal people Attached File |
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