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Posted: 5/7/2024 4:00:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Alright, submitted, lets see if it does anything. Thanks for the info. Good luck! |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 4:07:18 PM EDT
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This may be to add more gun owners to their database asap? I’m thinking of the many firearms owners who purchased privately and the govt has no paper trail?
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ND, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 4:10:14 PM EDT
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Starting to get concerned. I'm at three weeks today.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 4:23:01 PM EDT
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I purchased a new suppressor on Saturday and while I was at the shop I had them help me submit an Eform Form 1 to SBR a lower I had.
Received both approvals back today - 1.5 business day turnaround. Amazing. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 5:12:10 PM EDT
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So I am not very familiar with the world of NFA stuff and what each form does, I have a Ptr9ct I got from someone in trade, it came with a pdw stock that was not attached, but I plan to get a brace to put on it for now, however if I want to do the SBR route, what would I need to do as I already have the items in question? also if I did want to get a suppressor, would it best to do both at the same time and just do a tax stamp for each? would one affect the other as far as wait times?
and I have seen people mention using gun trusts, what is the benefit of doing that? is it worth it for only one or 2 NFA items? can only blood family be added to the trust to use the items or can it be anyone I chose as long as they aren't prohibited? also if adding multiple people to a trust, do they all have to reside in the same state as the owner of the nfa item(s)? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 5:17:43 PM EDT
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Still have two efile form 4s from March ‘23 waiting for approval..
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Posted: 5/7/2024 5:21:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elgin25: So I am not very familiar with the world of NFA stuff and what each form does, I have a Ptr9ct I got from someone in trade, it came with a pdw stock that was not attached, but I plan to get a brace to put on it for now, however if I want to do the SBR route, what would I need to do as I already have the items in question? also if I did want to get a suppressor, would it best to do both at the same time and just do a tax stamp for each? would one affect the other as far as wait times? and I have seen people mention using gun trusts, what is the benefit of doing that? is it worth it for only one or 2 NFA items? can only blood family be added to the trust to use the items or can it be anyone I chose as long as they aren't prohibited? also if adding multiple people to a trust, do they all have to reside in the same state as the owner of the nfa item(s)? -You will need to do a Form 1 for the SBR if you go that route. You can fill out the form directly on the ATF eforms site. You will need to engrave your name or your trust name as well as the location the SBR was created. -For the supressor, you'll be doing a Form 4 unless you build your own. In that case, it would be another Form 1. The Form 4 can be done electronically as well, but will require some input from your chosen dealer. -Submitting them at the same time likely have little effect on the wait time. That said, I had 2 cans and an SBR get approved the same day, but we're submitted almost a month apart. Trusts- They're cool and allow some flexibility in possession. They are also quite slow to approve. You can add any non-prohibited person to the trust, not just family. I would suggest adding them AFTER you get approved. As for residence of others on your trust, I'm not certain. I would like to say they can live anywhere but can only possess the item where legal. Maybe someone else can chime in on that part. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 5:22:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grn_zx6r: Still have two efile form 4s from March ‘23 waiting for approval.. I wonder if it would be faster to cancel and re-submit. I am not sure you can do that though. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 5:22:35 PM EDT
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Started one yesterday, form 4. I hope a snappy return from the feds will erase the bad taste from the last I poorly chose. If you're ever in Lacey, Washington, avoid KP Gunworks. I experienced every stereotypical gun shop nightmare in one visit.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 6:08:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stpolaris: This may be to add more gun owners to their database asap? I’m thinking of the many firearms owners who purchased privately and the govt has no paper trail? Haha. How many of these mythical gun owners with no paper trails have ever: had a fishing/hunting license, bought any ammo or targets with a debit/credit card, owned a boat or camper, made a purchase at a sporting goods store/website? Another haha. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 6:17:39 PM EDT
[#11]
Got my F4 back in 4 days, my F1 is at 1 day right now.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 6:18:27 PM EDT
[#12]
Submitted Saturday.
I'm already pissed I'm not approved. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 6:18:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: I'm at 3 weeks now. Coworker went to Tennessee Silencer and did the eForm 4 on the Silencer Shop kiosk. Got his approved yesterday for both his cans. Another coworker is approaching 6 months. What part of TN is that in? are they in the middle region? Clarksville/Nashville/mboro or near those areas at all? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 6:25:44 PM EDT
[#14]
Today's Form 1. 7.62x25 Master race.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 6:56:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: QRB]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Today's Form 1. 7.62x25 Master race. https://i.ibb.co/sVhSn3W/440475283-1336921347699726-303744727096082632-n.jpg Very nice! I'm in the process of building one of those. The parts kits are pretty reasonable right now. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:09:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Today's Form 1. 7.62x25 Master race. https://i.ibb.co/sVhSn3W/440475283-1336921347699726-303744727096082632-n.jpg Nice. BTW, I’m open to being adopted. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:20:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bikedamon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QRB: Very nice! I'm in the process of building one of those. The parts kits are pretty reasonable right now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QRB: Originally Posted By bikedamon: Today's Form 1. 7.62x25 Master race. https://i.ibb.co/sVhSn3W/440475283-1336921347699726-303744727096082632-n.jpg Very nice! I'm in the process of building one of those. The parts kits are pretty reasonable right now. I bought it whole from GrabAGun, then used a parts kit for the folding stock mechanism. The parts kit was the best source for cheap additional mags too, as you probably know. Then I got another from GrabAGun in 9mm, uses the same mags that the 7.62 version uses. Nifty. I simply marked the mags & guns with caliber in Sharpie.  Not a lot of cool old-school mil-surp stuff like this still floating around for cheap. I highly recommend GrabAGun's "Get A Quote" feature. If you see a gun you want with that button enabled, hit it and they send you a limited time huge discount offer. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:55:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seaskidoo: Good luck! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seaskidoo: Originally Posted By pestilence12: Alright, submitted, lets see if it does anything. Thanks for the info. Good luck! Thanks I also subnitted. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:50:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Today's Form 1. 7.62x25 Master race. https://i.ibb.co/sVhSn3W/440475283-1336921347699726-303744727096082632-n.jpg What is that? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:55:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: astrocreep96]
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Well, my form 4 trust application for a full auto m16 was disapproved. Reason given was "Due to a system error the form 4 submitted form did not generate, please resubmit the form 4, refund has been requested."
Well shit. I know it will get fixed, but its been 3 months now since I dropped $43k on a gun and now I'm starting over. I also have a KAC can sitting in limbo, my dealer can't figure out what is going on, amd each time I email SilencerShop they say it is being processed even though nothing has changed for a month on their website. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:04:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TNVC]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By astrocreep96: Well, my form 4 trust application for a full auto m16 was disapproved. Reason given was "Due to a system error the form 4 submitted form did not generate, please resubmit the form 4, refund has been requested." Well shit. I know it will get fixed, but its been 3 months now since I dropped $43k on a gun and now I'm starting over. I also have a KAC can sitting in limbo, my dealer can't figure out what is going on, amd each time I email SilencerShop they say it is being processed even though nothing has changed for a month on their website. Damn, hope this all gets worked out. This stuff so frustrating! Edit, you can call the ATF on the can. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:09:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Utahshooting: What is that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Utahshooting: Originally Posted By bikedamon: Today's Form 1. 7.62x25 Master race. https://i.ibb.co/sVhSn3W/440475283-1336921347699726-303744727096082632-n.jpg What is that? PPS-43c. Polish arms company Pioneer made semis out of a bunch of left over Soviet stocks left behind. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:11:00 PM EDT
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Individual can spent one business day waiting for the atf. Trust with one member has been two months and counting
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:52:31 PM EDT
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Submitted an Individual form 1 for an SBR on 4/28 at around 9 PM, received my approval at 6:28 this morning. This included 3 days for "pending research" as my lower manufacturer was not in the drop down list.
Also my first time submitting the the EFT file for the fingerprints, didn't think they went through because when it switched to pending approval, they sent me the cover letter to be attached to the ink prints to be mailed in. Called ATF and left a message asking if I could send another attachment yesterday, but obviously that question was answered. I was actually expecting this one to get denied because I found two errors I made after I submitted the form. I missed filling in my county of residence and put United States as the address for the receiver manufacturer instead of city and state. Surprised that they let that slide. However I did provide pics of the receiver markings and have several other stamps so guess that was good enough. I will probably do another SBR here in the next month or so. This one has been the fastest stamp I have had. Last form 1 came through in 28 days, that was the last day of August in 2022. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:09:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: networkguru]
[#25]
Form 4 individual submitted on friday.
Approved today 5/7. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:54:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elgin25: What part of TN is that in? are they in the middle region? Clarksville/Nashville/mboro or near those areas at all? Knoxville area. @elgin25 |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 5:56:58 AM EDT
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Submitted form 4 individual saturday.
Approval came at 5am today |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:09:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nictra: certified Friday 5/3, still no approval yet. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:04:32 AM EDT
[#29]
Submitting a Form 1 for an SBR this morning, we'll see how long it takes.
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:08:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Action45]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: Submitted Saturday. I'm already pissed I'm not approved. I’m at 2 weeks today. Patience is starting to wear thin, you assholes told me it would be 48-72 hours. Lol |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:08:58 AM EDT
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The new normal for a clean eform is supposed to be one week.
 ATF Update: More Transferrable MGs and One-Week NFA Transfers |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:27:33 AM EDT
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My El Camino just got approved this morning. 05/03-05/08.
Submitted at 5pm Friday 05/03. Not a bad turn around. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:41:09 AM EDT
[#33]
They're definitely running automated approvals since my approval was at 5am.
Why isn't it faster?
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:49:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: pestilence12]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: I’m at 2 weeks today. Patience is starting to wear thin, you assholes told me it would be 48-72 hours. Lol 44 days. I am past thin patience, I am pissed. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 12:46:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: 44 days. I am past thin patience, I am pissed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Originally Posted By Action45: I’m at 2 weeks today. Patience is starting to wear thin, you assholes told me it would be 48-72 hours. Lol 44 days. I am past thin patience, I am pissed. 73 days |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 12:54:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manduck: I purchased a new suppressor on Saturday and while I was at the shop I had them help me submit an Eform Form 1 to SBR a lower I had. Received both approvals back today - 1.5 business day turnaround. Amazing. Same. Submitted an eForm 1 on Saturday. Came back approved today (Wednesday). |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 12:58:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By astrocreep96: I have a f/a Colt M16A1 on my trust that was submitted on 3/15 and is STILL waiting.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By astrocreep96: Originally Posted By ttushooter: Originally Posted By The_Five_Elements: Our trusts being approved at the same speed or is this for individual only? Per others in the thread, trusts are taking longer I have a f/a Colt M16A1 on my trust that was submitted on 3/15 and is STILL waiting. Should have done individual and then transferred it to your trust. What’s another $200 on a $40k purchase? |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 1:41:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/8/2024 2:00:32 PM EDT
[#39]
I have to say, this makes me Giddy.
1) People are no longer being punished with punitive long waits for approval 2) More people than ever are interested in suppressors which is GREAT 3) This increase in interest is going to lead to more and better products, which is outstanding If you don't have one, get one. If you have one, get more. They are great. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 2:20:18 PM EDT
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Bought mine on 3/8 through local shop using silencer shop. First one. Between the dipshits at the store and silencer shop it did not get certified til 4/2. No approval yet. Looks like I’m in for the long haul.
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Posted: 5/8/2024 2:21:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DriftingArmed: Bought mine on 3/8 through local shop using silencer shop. First one. Between the dipshits at the store and silencer shop it did not get certified til 4/2. No approval yet. Looks like I’m in for the long haul. eForm, individual? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 2:50:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: eForm, individual? Correct |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 2:53:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: 44 days. I am past thin patience, I am pissed. 54 days today. Sucks. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 3:23:36 PM EDT
[#44]
Two single shot trust eform 4’s submitted on 3/25, and I’m still waiting.
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Posted: 5/8/2024 3:32:00 PM EDT
[#45]
Mine was pretty quick, next time I'll file on a Monday and see if that helps.
 
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 3:38:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Glocked]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: They're definitely running automated approvals since my approval was at 5am. Why isn't it faster? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: They're definitely running automated approvals since my approval was at 5am. Why isn't it faster? As of 5/1 Total number of live applications undergoing further background check research by FBI-NICS: 85,752 That number was 79,XXX on 4/1. NICS is likely the source of many of the delays. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 4:05:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pestilence12]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glocked: As of 5/1 That number was 79,XXX on 4/1. NICS is likely the source of many of the delays. I cannot believe that is the cause for delay. It has to be something else. I have an uncommon name (first and last), I have 5 other stamps approved, I gave my social sec number, I have never once in all my gun-buying years been delayed on a 4473 or any other background check for anything (loan, renter, job, etc), I bought 3 new guns over the last year, I have a security clearance through the .gov and held that actively for almost 3 years, I have the squeakiest record ever (not even a speeding ticket to my name), filed as individual so no trust... I just can't fathom why I'm getting delayed, again. My first form 4, about 4 years ago, took 14 months when the average was reported at 8-10 months. I swore then that it wasn't worth it and I wasn't gonna do it again. 14 months wait is exceedingly gay. I form 1'd a suppressor after reports that the AFT had relaxed on making your own (after the whole solvent trap thing), which went through pretty painlessly. After seeing that many, many people were getting eform4's back in less than a week, and SilencerShop reporting an average 4 day wait, I went ahead and bought another can instead of just form 1-ing another one. Well, stupid fucking me, cuz here I am waiting WAY past the average, yet again. I could have had a form1 back in this amount of time or faster, and been on my way to machining a can. Stupid fucking process, stupid fucking system, stupid fucking dogshit government agency. end rant. I feel better now. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 4:19:22 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: I cannot believe that is the cause for delay. It has to be something else. I have an uncommon name (first and last), I have 5 other stamps approved, I gave my social sec number, I have never once in all my gun-buying years been delayed on a 4473 or any other background check for anything (loan, renter, job, etc), I bought 3 new guns over the last year, I have a security clearance through the .gov and held that actively for almost 3 years, I have the squeakiest record ever (not even a speeding ticket to my name), filed as individual so no trust... I just can't fathom why I'm getting delayed, again. My first form 4, about 4 years ago, took 14 months when the average was reported at 8-10 months. I swore then that it wasn't worth it and I wasn't gonna do it again. 14 months wait is gay. I form 1'd a suppressor after reports that the AFT had relaxed on making your own (after the whole solvent trap thing), which went through pretty painlessly. After seeing that many, many people were getting eform4's back in less than a week, and SilencerShop reporting an average 4 day wait, I went ahead and bought another can instead of just form 1-ing another one. Well, stupid fucking me, cuz here I am waiting WAY past the average, yet again. I could have had a form1 back in this amount of time or faster, and been on my way to machining a can. Stupid fucking process, stupid fucking system, stupid fucking dogshit government agency. end rant. I feel better now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Originally Posted By Glocked: As of 5/1 That number was 79,XXX on 4/1. NICS is likely the source of many of the delays. I cannot believe that is the cause for delay. It has to be something else. I have an uncommon name (first and last), I have 5 other stamps approved, I gave my social sec number, I have never once in all my gun-buying years been delayed on a 4473 or any other background check for anything (loan, renter, job, etc), I bought 3 new guns over the last year, I have a security clearance through the .gov and held that actively for almost 3 years, I have the squeakiest record ever (not even a speeding ticket to my name), filed as individual so no trust... I just can't fathom why I'm getting delayed, again. My first form 4, about 4 years ago, took 14 months when the average was reported at 8-10 months. I swore then that it wasn't worth it and I wasn't gonna do it again. 14 months wait is gay. I form 1'd a suppressor after reports that the AFT had relaxed on making your own (after the whole solvent trap thing), which went through pretty painlessly. After seeing that many, many people were getting eform4's back in less than a week, and SilencerShop reporting an average 4 day wait, I went ahead and bought another can instead of just form 1-ing another one. Well, stupid fucking me, cuz here I am waiting WAY past the average, yet again. I could have had a form1 back in this amount of time or faster, and been on my way to machining a can. Stupid fucking process, stupid fucking system, stupid fucking dogshit government agency. end rant. I feel better now. NICS is a shitty and inefficient government system that relies on other shitty and inefficient government systems. Have you applied for an UPIN? If there is no reason to have one, they’ll reject your application. If they see there is a reason for them to approve it, maybe it’ll help speed stuff up for you. Have you requested your IdHS to see if there is any incorrect information NICS is seeing in there? |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 4:26:38 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glocked: NICS is a shitty and inefficient government system that relies on other shitty and inefficient government systems. Have you applied for an UPIN? If there is no reason to have one, they’ll reject your application. If they see there is a reason for them to approve it, maybe it’ll help speed stuff up for you. Have you requested your IdHS to see if there is any incorrect information NICS is seeing in there? No to either of those. No UPIN, never applied for one. No IdHS, but I'm also not sure what that is. The fucked part is they don't even tell you where you're at, or what they're seeing on your application that may cause a delay. If they'd just fucking tell me, then I could address it. I also don't use a prefix or anything on my name that SS was saying could cause delays. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 4:26:48 PM EDT
[#50]
Bought a can through ss 5/3/2024 and I’m sitting at preparing for efiles. Was told on the phone this morning that my can will ship next week due to a 2 week back log. Fuck me. I hope it approves fast after I certify next week I hope, or the week after.
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