Winning? They've won. I have news for you, this isn't the beginning of the end; it's the end of the beginning.

"Luxury Protests"

Not that hard to imagine, its lead some states to try to ban "military" training.

It probably lead to the FBI assisting with OKC bombing to help focus the public on the dangers of the militia movement post RR and Waco.

North Druid Hills?

a drone saw this?

why were Hellfire missiles not used?

nothing like a bloody testicle rolling down a terrorist's pants leg to discourage his wingmen

Maybe. Or maybe some of those folks doing the training and involved in the protests aren't "snowflakes".


It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out in terms of domestic unrest and how it shapes the 2024 election.

Shows need for a [Like] button.

Who is paying for this?  Arrest them, deport all protesting non citizens, sentence arrested protesters to doing 6 months public service in Gaza.

Imagine, if you will, a frozen 12 oz soda can launched from a Can Cannon into a rioters sternum...

You need to understand the antifa structure.

They are divided up into small cells they typically call affinity groups.  These groups make internal decisions on what shit they want to start or take part in.  Support groups, non profits, etc exist to support the overall action like the National Lawyers Guild providing legal services to those picked up by police at an action.  

Just like militia groups the skill of individuals and teams are all over the place.  Some antifa cells has been training with various terror groups for years.  The photos are out there.  These affinity groups are well funded, have standardized gear, team SOP, pretty much have their shit together.  A subset of this tier is John Brown Gun Club and Redneck Revolt groups.  They pretty closely match most right wing militias in skill and gear from observations during the summer of love.  This level of antifa, JBGC, and RR have pulled off assassinations, and other terrorist acts.

The next tier is criminals, mentally ill, and deranged angry people.  The left has invested a large fortune in controlling information to manipulate people.  We saw hordes of their criminals during actions like the Battle of Kenosha, and their mentally ill have recently been making a lot of headlines in the form of trans school shooters.  This tier is unpredictable and could have a lot of experience hurting people.

Lastly you have the groups seen in the video, typically young college student recruits that got taken hook line and sinker for the left BS the left sells.  These guys exist to fill out the ranks, and hopefully for antifa they get arrested, ruin their lives etc because that will further radicalize them into a more useful activist.  We laugh at them because they tend to not be able to fight their way out of a wet paper bag, and do things like the CHAZ zone farm that highlights their lack of knowhow.  They still show up though.

The most impressive thing about the left is the logistics.  Logistics win wars right?  They come to the party the activists know they have free legal, work shops have turned out standardized shields and other weapons that were stored at  network of safe houses and caches that helps conceal out of state actors before and after an action till they can escape, and plenty of evidence exists that payment for mayhem exists.

Contrast that to the right that shows up typically well armed, able to take care of themselves, but has no legal or support beyond what the individual and maybe a couple friends provide.  

hell a paintball gun with frozen paint balls would do wonders as well.

Oh man. I wish.

Right?  Just as recent as the Antifa fiasco we saw tradecraft to include clean up crews, distraction teams, weaponry and coordinated attacks.

This was at the phoenix protest in August 2017

Pepper ball to the pecker

They usually have cameras everywhere to film and promote those sort of responses, that’s actually one of the objectives of those kinds of actions.

Are they in the hills?

Damn honkeys!!!

Look at da crackers all in a row.

They up in the hills practiciing!  Maxine was right, round these people up, they probably question the party in some way.

The problem with live streamers (and people recording stuff in general) is that the dramatic stuff that goes viral is rarely a good cross section of the boring organizational stuff that happens out of frame, so they don't really focus on it. You really have to be on the ground in the middle of it to see.

underestimation of ones adversary usually leads to defeat. They get away with a lot more shit and rarely face legal consequences, yet we would get the pointy end of the legal sword should we defend ourselves against them. look at the hell Rittenhouse was put through and may likely still face civil suits even though he cleared the criminal suits.

People laugh at these folks, yet they kind of resemble the early days of the Nazi party, with the SA training the average radical to join the numbers, most of the SA and gestapo where ordinary German citizens radicalized and turned in a way to round up their neighbors and walk them to mass Graves or onto trucks/trains.

history has a way of repeating itself, in varying but similar ways.

Some heavy horse action on the leftist scum would be awesome.

Wouldnt a tazer get those people who were touching each other?  that weird double arms linked "wall formation" would be interesting.... could you get 15 hippies with one taze? is there a record for number of tazed people with one cartridge?

When cops train on Tasers, they're tased with someone holding onto each of their arms and the folks holding them don't get shocked.

I wanted to turn out in my late 16th century kit when the last go round with Leftists were happening. It is all heat treated plate so I would be essentially immune to any kind of impact weapon but it is VERY identifiable in terms of Doxing. Plus no CS gas protection. Be better to have on hidden ABS riot gear under a hoodie with a gas mask like them.

I'm not seeing any effective strategy to their training other than how to passively resist a direct crowd push. They need to understand how flanks work... ;)

@Alacrity

I did Estrella (outside phoenix 17 years back in February), as a roman legionary. There are armor requirements that are fairly strict. Knees, elbows, sternum, neck, groin,  feet(no valid targets below knee, hitting knee intentionally is "legal" but a good way to get known as a jerk and have someone better go hunting for you, and there are some VERY good people).  Heat casualty's are an issue for sure there are people who go around with water and basically push water and Gatorade on everybody. plus when you "die" you have to leave the field for a bit, great time to get some water, and you die A LOT(well I did I wasn't very good ).   There are Medics on site for events of that size, there is an actual ambulance onsite for some events too due to it being a gathering of 2000-5000 people doing a moderate risk activity, no different from the town fair and having ambulance stage there vs at fire station.

As for broken bones the armor helps a lot, as does ratan weapons (it has a bit of give in it, not like a willow switch but definitely flexible compared to hickory, and being lighter than wood it is quite a bit nice to be beat with).  Basically, for helmets they require have to weigh a certain amount (i think 10lbs minimum), thickness is 10 gauge steel, and fully cover everything important, the neck usually goes up into the helmet and has  similar requirements. ribs don't require armor but being flat and big target you REALLY want armor there as blows "stick' HARD and hurt (and "kill" you ).  Collar bones are REALLY easy landing pads too so you want them armored, they don't move and are a "sticky" target that hurts a lot. going down  the thighs are also prime targets and while they don't "kill you" they make you go to your knees and your are a mobility kill/pike bait.  The armor usually has a thick cotton padded layer under the armor between the body and the metal to cut down on impact too , it was "poor" mans armor back in the middle ages on its own. "padded armor" in D&D as you will.
My roman armor (lorica segmentata) had some neat spring action for shots to torso, it would coil like a leaf spring and absorb nearly all the force, i could barely feel the impact , body would move, but zero sting or real force behind shots to my ribs.


When you are packed in like they are in the photo it is really hard to get a good swing at someone so you Arnt getting pounded but closing with the shield wall is quite high risk.

I pointed several people to your website as well as referenced it on here; a lot of people have their heads in the sand and still don't want to believe its happening even when someone who's been in the thick of it and has military experience points it out.  Been a while since you did nay updates though.

I've seen protesters use counter-control tactics as well. We'd set up, there's be a group that would react in an organized manner while trying to hide within the larger protest group. We'd move, they'd move.

BINGO.

The effectiveness lies in command control on the line. They're learning how to move as a unit and how to follow instructions. Communication along a line is a bitch. Radios help, but not as much as you might think. And who's to say that the training you saw is the only training they did?

Nope.  Only if you touch between the 2 probes.

C&C is key for sure. You need to get your mob where they need to go, and when there, arrayed as needed.

All training is helpful, I agree. This is likely a 101 intro. Most importantly in this they are desensitizing those who are not used to group scrum and impact. Probably IDing potential leaders and advanced skill set folks through it too. Group movement and changes from marching order to deployed config would come later.

There is honestly a lot to learn FROM Antifa in terms of getting a group fielded, fed and maintained once there. Some of the events they protest are days long and they manage to keep a significant amount of people on their line. They have their own version of combined arms with dedicated jobs for some units and individuals. The legal support they have structured if people get in trouble adds to moral.

Training use to have officers lock arms in a line and the 2 training taser clips were held by one officer on each end of the line.  Everyone on the line would feel it as they were in a chain between the two probes.  I dont think taser has done this in training for several years.

Not really applicable to the real world either.

Watch the Aaron Danielson murder.  That really should end the nonsense that antifa will be a speedbump.

They had multiple teams with different tasks.

They had the shooter, scouts, and a site clean up crew that tried to remove any evidence before cops could arrive under the guise of rendering aid.  Ask yourself what the shooter was doing at  house he wasnt connected to?  That smells like a safe house to me, and the shooter set himself up when he gave an interview to Vice News.  He might have gotten away with it had he stuck to OPSEC.

Disagree they are winning.

There is  clear shift across the board to the right.

The left is hitting resistance everywhere where there used to only be people like me showing up.  The right has started winning a lot of fights too.

The right needs to get behind OPSEC when doing this stuff.  I've personally witnessed antifa, the lawyers guild taking hi rez face shots of people, copying down license plates near protests, and other methods to try to dox people.

Also you dont sign to a big group if you are tea partying.  That shit is with the boys you've known all your life.

Why?

You know what shuts antifa down?

Thousands of right wingers showing up armed prepared to defend a site.

The cops dont move those groups because one the right doesnt occupy the space turning it into a lawless landfill with rampant property damage and rape.  When the right shows up they have more guns there than the cops do in the county.  Dental plan and all that.

Maybe paintball guns?

IME the real fun is bout finding what kind of over watch the various sides have.

Shits getting next level when you see antifa has set up a position that could easily suppress a LE sniper position.  Thats a big reason why LE is being pretty gentle with things, they face the legal threat, but also they are not close to a monopoly on the potential of violence.

Everyone on the right needs to STOP FED-JACKETING RIGHT NOW.

Groups win wars. I can't believe my family is gonna get mass-graved in 10 years bc the right is too scared to fucking talk to each other.

I have experience working two real worrld riots (Rodney King & Aryan Nation at MLK Center on MLK's B-day), I can say I am not impressed with what I saw in the video.

Exactly.

And they are all so punchable.

Needs more Angel Has Fallen-type drones

They aren't, because you aren't going to allow them to be mass graved

Good post, and there's no doubt antifa, BLM and the various small gun groups are a much higher level of threat. I was kind of poking fun at the baby-steps they're walking these mostly white, probably middle-to-upper-middle class college students through. These look to be very soft kids, and raised indoors almost none of them have even been in the typical neighborhood dust-up that was just part of growing up in the 60s, 70s and 80s in most of the country.

I'd wager both the DNC and RNC conventions this year bring out the left's organized fringe, not to mention a large number of looters, and the riot control "containment" gloves come off. They almost have to, or Biden loses what little appearance of control he has left.

I've seen a lot of protestor types riding those Surron bikes.  They look pretty good for getting in and out of places quickly and quietly.  

I would not show up to any of these confrontations with anything you plan to keep, LE, if they arrest you will confiscate any good stuff you have

1 man against a company sized element is nothing, even if they're literally unarmed.

But you aren't going to just sit around wringing hands and let it happen...............you are going to plan to prevent such an event from happening.