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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:28:07 AM EDT
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There are too many safe countries to visit to choose to go into the cartel areas, (most of) of Mexico.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:31:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MATTINFAIRBORN]
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Statistically, it is safer for American tourists in Mexico than Americans in general in the US. And how many of the homicides of Americans were people screwing around with drugs? IDK.
Stay out of sketchy places in both Mexico and here and you'll be safe. There are certainly a lot more sketchy places in Mexico. I wouldn't be trying to buy crack in West Dayton after midnight anymore than in a dark alley in Mexico. For example, the shuttle people that run the trip from the resort we like to 5th Avenue in Playa del Carmen advise to stay on the 5-mile long pedestrian walkway 5th Avenue and the blocks between 5th and the beach, especially at night. The danger mostly is robbery. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to follow that advice. "While it's true Mexico has a significantly higher homicide rate (28 per 100,000 people) than the United States (7 per 100,000 people), data suggests violence against American citizens remains rare. In 2021, 75 U.S. citizens died by homicide in Mexico, according to the State Department. That represents a small fraction of the more than 28.8 million Americans who went to the country over the same time period. Using those figures, the murder rate of U.S. citizens in Mexico was around 0.26 per 100,000 visitors, significantly lower than the rate in the United States." https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/how-common-is-violence-against-americans-in-mexico/ |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:34:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Burnsy: Because people in Chicago have never been killed over a pair of shoes. Nope, that never happens here in the US.  Last Action Hero - Take His Shoes |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:38:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FannyPackZach: One was my friend from high school. Sad shit. Sorry to hear man. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:44:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hatidua: 11 people were killed in Chicago last week alone and I bet most of them looked identical to the people doing the killing. I'll take my chances in Mexico as a gringo. Chicago is almost all gang on gang, unless you seek it out you are much more likely to be a target in Baja as an unknowing gringo. I take it you've never been to Tijuana |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:12:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thUSMC: Chicago and other high crime cities, like Mexico, is a no go for me. Avoid them at all cost. I was in Chicago, twice, yesterday. Did not die. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:13:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Panta_Rei: Chicago is almost all gang on gang, unless you seek it out you are much more likely to be a target in Baja as an unknowing gringo. I take it you've never been to Tijuana Yup. Been to both, camped south of Ensenada in the 80s. Chicago is relatively safe outside of the rough parts. Mehico....good luck. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:13:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macaho45: I was in Chicago, twice, yesterday. Did not die. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macaho45: Originally Posted By 4thUSMC: Chicago and other high crime cities, like Mexico, is a no go for me. Avoid them at all cost. I was in Chicago, twice, yesterday. Did not die. That's just what you want us to think. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:19:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: runcible]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Burnsy: I live in small town IN and always have. In highschool a classmate got beat pretty bad because another classmate wanted his "starter jacket" back in the day when those were thing. Spent a few days in the hospital sort of beating. Over a jacket. The idea of avoiding a place because someone got killed..... I am sure there have been plenty of murders in your town. I am equally sure plenty of people have been murdered in my small town over the years, over stupid shit. I am sure of this because humans kill humans in every place on the planet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Burnsy: Originally Posted By 4thUSMC: Chicago and other high crime cities, like Mexico, is a no go for me. Avoid them at all cost. The idea of avoiding a place because someone got killed..... I am sure there have been plenty of murders in your town. I am equally sure plenty of people have been murdered in my small town over the years, over stupid shit. I am sure of this because humans kill humans in every place on the planet. If you were walking in the woods, would you rather unexpectedly encounter a strange man, or a bear? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:30:23 AM EDT
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Anyone who goes to Mexico on vacation or anywhere near Chicago are ignorant of basic risk management and just think it won't happen to them...
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:31:53 AM EDT
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My SIL wants us to have a family reunion somewhere in Mexico. My wife is pissed because I won't do it.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:36:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Utahshooting: Headed to Cabo in July. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Utahshooting: Originally Posted By dsmaccullen: I will be in Cancun in a month! Can't wait Headed to Cabo in July. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:43:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tallahasseezz: People in the US and most western countries don't understand how cheap life is in the rest of the world. Also hope nobody was drinking out of that well. Seems like some Mexicans didn't learn that lesson from the Mayans. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:48:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VACaver: My SIL wants us to have a family reunion somewhere in Mexico. My wife is pissed because I won't do it. You don't even seem to know where in Mexico, but have already decided you won't do it. And, I'll bet you throw out your shoulder patting yourself on the back over how logical you are as opposed to driven by emotion. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:53:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BoogieCookie: I just spent 10 days in Cozumel, I didn't die.  Attached FileCoz has their shit together most of the time. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:54:23 AM EDT
[#16]
Mexico is what truly not giving a fuck looks like on a national level.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:09:48 AM EDT
[#17]
My wife and I go to Mexico fairly often and never felt like we were in any sort of danger. We stick to the Gulf of Mexico side though, not the Pacific side.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:11:37 AM EDT
[#18]
Only The Poors goto MX...
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:12:39 AM EDT
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I was in Mexico (Tulum) a few months ago and we're not planning to return. It wasn't that I felt unsafe, but the big reason so many people went to Mexico is because it's "cheap". Well, it's sure not cheap anymore. I'm not gonna pay that kind of money to go to some place like Mexico.....I'd much rather pay the same amount and go to Belize or Costa Rica.
We had to take a taxi from our resort to the town of Tulum and it was $45 USD each way....to go 1.2 miles!!!! Yeah, not going back. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:23:24 AM EDT
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I staged this photo to show the extreme danger of deadly injury in Valladolid that COULD have happened. 2012 but I'm still shaking. We almost gave up on going back to Mexico. Intense therapy sessions and looser panties got me mostly through the trauma. Mostly.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:27:59 AM EDT
[#21]
Callum Robinson's Instagram account contained the following slogan: "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room."
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:57:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By S58DRIVER: Only The Poors goto MX... Really nice all-inclusive resorts in Cancun/Riviera Maya run $400 to $500 a night except for peak dates. Ones with a pretense of luxury, exclusiveness, and a twig of parsley on your entree plate can run quite a bit more. Add in airfare, tips, and airport transfers for just the resort part and it isn't for the poors. By my definition of poor anyway. Prices are not too hateful but in my personal poverty-stricken dotage, we only go once a year for two weeks and book the next year's trip during their Black Friday sale. I've heard some all-inclusives run around $200 a night but not places that we'd like. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:03:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MADMAXXX]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MATTINFAIRBORN: Really nice all-inclusive resorts in Cancun/Riviera Maya run $400 to $500 a night except for peak dates. Ones with a pretense of luxury, exclusiveness, and a twig of parsley on your entree plate can run quite a bit more. Add in airfare, tips, and airport transfers for just the resort part and it isn't for the poors. By my definition of poor anyway. Prices are not too hateful but in my personal poverty-stricken dotage, we only go once a year for two weeks and book the next year's trip during their Black Friday sale. I've heard some all-inclusives run around $200 a night but not places that we'd like. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MATTINFAIRBORN: Originally Posted By S58DRIVER: Only The Poors goto MX... Really nice all-inclusive resorts in Cancun/Riviera Maya run $400 to $500 a night except for peak dates. Ones with a pretense of luxury, exclusiveness, and a twig of parsley on your entree plate can run quite a bit more. Add in airfare, tips, and airport transfers for just the resort part and it isn't for the poors. By my definition of poor anyway. Prices are not too hateful but in my personal poverty-stricken dotage, we only go once a year for two weeks and book the next year's trip during their Black Friday sale. I've heard some all-inclusives run around $200 a night but not places that we'd like. For the price of one night you can stay here for one month.  Also there is almost no crime. You can literally leave your cell phone or laptop at the bar and go swim and it will be waiting when you return.  Rent $120 Month Move Here? Hua Hin Beach Condos Tour 2023 Hua Hin Thailand Or beachfront on an island.  Koh Phangan $200 Month Home + $16 Hotel + Full Moon Beach Tour |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:14:30 AM EDT
[#24]
When I lived in San Diego I was invited to come down to Baja to surf many times... But I declined as the dudes were pretty sketchy and not very wholesome. My wife also wouldn't have approved.
My wife and I did go down to Rosarito a few times and into TJ drinking with a group of friends too. We almost got robbed crossing back into the US late at night. A thick glass mexican coke bottle saved our asses. I was ready to bludgeon the two thugs to death if need be. My blood was flammable, at least 100 proof, plus I'm Irish with a little Cherokee and have a history of standing my ground. So glad I didn't have to resort to violence that night. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:24:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MATTINFAIRBORN: Do not get in Kevin's way if he decides he wants your shrimp sandwich. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/312702/download__3__jpg-3207755.JPG I hear the shrimp sandwich is best ordered with extra shrimp? Looking forward to having a drink with you next month... 
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:27:43 AM EDT
[#26]
Did they eat their eyeballs?
Or is that just what happens in Vegas? Not sure which story the truth will be, but the robbery one and they fought the robbers seems like the most common one right now. Fought back and all 3 were shot. I leave next week to MX for another trip. My only concern is the car rental. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:33:49 AM EDT
[#27]
I’ll ask the obvious question: what kind of tires are we talking about here?
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:44:31 AM EDT
[#28]
Also, suppose you were hiking in the Sierra Madre, would you rather encounter a Mexican dude or a grizzly bear?
(This is a trick question. IIRC, the last confirmed grizzly killed in Mexico was in the Sierra Del Nido in 1959, and there have been no credible reports for decades.) |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:46:25 AM EDT
[#29]
On my way to the airport to fly Mexico right now. Been a while. We're getting picked up by my aunt's chauffeur, so no messing with cabs, Uber, or the bus. Decided it would be best to leave the Omega watch at home, though.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:52:53 AM EDT
[#30]
Hard pass.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:54:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:02:55 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LineOfDeparture: I doubt OP would advocate going anywhere near that shit hole, either. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LineOfDeparture: Originally Posted By Burnsy: Because people in Chicago have never been killed over a pair of shoes. Nope, that never happens here in the US. I doubt OP would advocate going anywhere near that shit hole, either. Meh, I'm going to go see U-505 eventually. Pretty sure you can do that without going into the areas where violence is common. Kinda like the tourist areas in Mexico, where the criminals, cartels, and federals all know violence will not be tolerated. Once you go out of those areas, you better follow different rules. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:08:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: On my way to the airport to fly Mexico right now. Been a while. We're getting picked up by my aunt's chauffeur, so no messing with cabs, Uber, or the bus. Decided it would be best to leave the Omega watch at home, though. I usually take one of my Invictas because they look expensive, keep perfect time, and I can easily hand them over if robbed. Honestly though, I do that whether I'm traveling abroad or within the US, unless I'm carrying semi-auto protection. $32 during Amazon Days 
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:10:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish: Also, suppose you were hiking in the Sierra Madre, would you rather encounter a Mexican dude or a grizzly bear? (This is a trick question. IIRC, the last confirmed grizzly killed in Mexico was in the Sierra Del Nido in 1959, and there have been no credible reports for decades.) Black bears still exist though and are around. Just saw one in April. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:11:19 AM EDT
[#35]
Personally, I look at Mexico this way - there's nothing I can do there, that I can't do in some other, safer, place.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:23:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bohr_Adam: You don't even seem to know where in Mexico, but have already decided you won't do it. And, I'll bet you throw out your shoulder patting yourself on the back over how logical you are as opposed to driven by emotion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By VACaver: My SIL wants us to have a family reunion somewhere in Mexico. My wife is pissed because I won't do it. You don't even seem to know where in Mexico, but have already decided you won't do it. And, I'll bet you throw out your shoulder patting yourself on the back over how logical you are as opposed to driven by emotion. I don't care where it is, I won't go to Mexico. I've been there enough times in the past to know I don't want to go again. And save you snide comments. For some reason you seem to have a case of the ass with me and it's time to put you on ignore. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:29:24 AM EDT
[#37]
One of my best friends has family in Mexico, and they have all advised her to stay the fuck away.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:29:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MATTINFAIRBORN]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pj1016: I hear the shrimp sandwich is best ordered with extra shrimp? Looking forward to having a drink with you next month... "A" drink? "Manuel! Set up another round!" Make sure any snacks you take to the pool are buried in a beach bag that is folded over. Not sure what these people were thinking. With the iguanas, coatis, tropical birds, butterflies, and other critters hanging around the place is amazing - if you like critters.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:31:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sixnine: We go to Barcelo in Riviera Maya, the resort is at least a mile in length and you never have any need to leave it. Excellent resort. Would stay again |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:33:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MATTINFAIRBORN: Statistically, it is safer for American tourists in Mexico than Americans in general in the US. And how many of the homicides of Americans were people screwing around with drugs? IDK. Stay out of sketchy places in both Mexico and here and you'll be safe. There are certainly a lot more sketchy places in Mexico. I wouldn't be trying to buy crack in West Dayton after midnight anymore than in a dark alley in Mexico. For example, the shuttle people that run the trip from the resort we like to 5th Avenue in Playa del Carmen advise to stay on the 5-mile long pedestrian walkway 5th Avenue and the blocks between 5th and the beach, especially at night. The danger mostly is robbery. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to follow that advice. "While it's true Mexico has a significantly higher homicide rate (28 per 100,000 people) than the United States (7 per 100,000 people), data suggests violence against American citizens remains rare. In 2021, 75 U.S. citizens died by homicide in Mexico, according to the State Department. That represents a small fraction of the more than 28.8 million Americans who went to the country over the same time period. Using those figures, the murder rate of U.S. citizens in Mexico was around 0.26 per 100,000 visitors, significantly lower than the rate in the United States." https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/how-common-is-violence-against-americans-in-mexico/ Valid comparison requires similar sampling. The US avg murder rate is skewed higher by the massively higher rates of black on black homicides. Those homicids are also happening in very localized geographic areas. The comparison of murder rate of vacationers to citizens in their own countries is also absurd because vacationers are only on vacation for short duration measured in days, maybe weeks, rather than almost an entire year in the resident country. Also residents are often killed by family members so it's further invalid not to compare average murder in residence country to vacation homicide. If you want to compare vacation homicides, you would have to compare homicide rates of vacationer in the countries being compared. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:34:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VACaver: I don't care where it is, I won't go to Mexico. I've been there enough times in the past to know I don't want to go again. And save you snide comments. For some reason you seem to have a case of the ass with me and it's time to put you on ignore. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VACaver: Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By VACaver: My SIL wants us to have a family reunion somewhere in Mexico. My wife is pissed because I won't do it. You don't even seem to know where in Mexico, but have already decided you won't do it. And, I'll bet you throw out your shoulder patting yourself on the back over how logical you are as opposed to driven by emotion. I don't care where it is, I won't go to Mexico. I've been there enough times in the past to know I don't want to go again. And save you snide comments. For some reason you seem to have a case of the ass with me and it's time to put you on ignore. I see a pattern here. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:38:11 PM EDT
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I live here in TJ. As another poster mentioned, TJ during the daytime is WAY safer during the day than Detroit, Memphis, or Chicago. At night, really the only thing I worry about is getting ripped off by the cops. Now as far as these three guys, I suspect they rolled up and saw something they shouldn't have seen. Killing three gringos brings an assload of heat. So whatever they were killed for had to be worth the negative attention. These guys weren't killed for there truck like was reported by MX officials.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:04:16 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Black bears still exist though and are around. Just saw one in April. That’s racist. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:11:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: That's an absurdly ridiculous comparison of Cherry picked Mexican data against averaged US data. Valid comparison requires similar sampling. The US avg murder rate is skewed higher by the massively higher rates of black on black homicides. Those homicids are also happening in very localized geographic areas. The comparison of murder rate of vacationers to citizens in their own countries is also absurd because vacationers are only on vacation for short duration measured in days, maybe weeks, rather than almost an entire year in the resident country. Also residents are often killed by family members so it's further invalid not to compare average murder in residence country to vacation homicide. If you want to compare vacation homicides, you would have to compare homicide rates of vacationer in the countries being compared. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: Originally Posted By MATTINFAIRBORN: Statistically, it is safer for American tourists in Mexico than Americans in general in the US. And how many of the homicides of Americans were people screwing around with drugs? IDK. Stay out of sketchy places in both Mexico and here and you'll be safe. There are certainly a lot more sketchy places in Mexico. I wouldn't be trying to buy crack in West Dayton after midnight anymore than in a dark alley in Mexico. For example, the shuttle people that run the trip from the resort we like to 5th Avenue in Playa del Carmen advise to stay on the 5-mile long pedestrian walkway 5th Avenue and the blocks between 5th and the beach, especially at night. The danger mostly is robbery. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to follow that advice. "While it's true Mexico has a significantly higher homicide rate (28 per 100,000 people) than the United States (7 per 100,000 people), data suggests violence against American citizens remains rare. In 2021, 75 U.S. citizens died by homicide in Mexico, according to the State Department. That represents a small fraction of the more than 28.8 million Americans who went to the country over the same time period. Using those figures, the murder rate of U.S. citizens in Mexico was around 0.26 per 100,000 visitors, significantly lower than the rate in the United States." https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/how-common-is-violence-against-americans-in-mexico/ Valid comparison requires similar sampling. The US avg murder rate is skewed higher by the massively higher rates of black on black homicides. Those homicids are also happening in very localized geographic areas. The comparison of murder rate of vacationers to citizens in their own countries is also absurd because vacationers are only on vacation for short duration measured in days, maybe weeks, rather than almost an entire year in the resident country. Also residents are often killed by family members so it's further invalid not to compare average murder in residence country to vacation homicide. If you want to compare vacation homicides, you would have to compare homicide rates of vacationer in the countries being compared. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:18:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MATTINFAIRBORN: Yes. The only useful fact about American citizen safety in Mexico is "the murder rate of U.S. citizens in Mexico was around 0.26 per 100,000 visitors". It would be interesting to see how many Americans were murdered in tourist zones. I'm guessing it would be very rare. Certainly not enough to deter going to resorts and tourist zones. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MATTINFAIRBORN: Originally Posted By Houstons_Problem: Originally Posted By MATTINFAIRBORN: Statistically, it is safer for American tourists in Mexico than Americans in general in the US. And how many of the homicides of Americans were people screwing around with drugs? IDK. Stay out of sketchy places in both Mexico and here and you'll be safe. There are certainly a lot more sketchy places in Mexico. I wouldn't be trying to buy crack in West Dayton after midnight anymore than in a dark alley in Mexico. For example, the shuttle people that run the trip from the resort we like to 5th Avenue in Playa del Carmen advise to stay on the 5-mile long pedestrian walkway 5th Avenue and the blocks between 5th and the beach, especially at night. The danger mostly is robbery. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to follow that advice. "While it's true Mexico has a significantly higher homicide rate (28 per 100,000 people) than the United States (7 per 100,000 people), data suggests violence against American citizens remains rare. In 2021, 75 U.S. citizens died by homicide in Mexico, according to the State Department. That represents a small fraction of the more than 28.8 million Americans who went to the country over the same time period. Using those figures, the murder rate of U.S. citizens in Mexico was around 0.26 per 100,000 visitors, significantly lower than the rate in the United States." https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/how-common-is-violence-against-americans-in-mexico/ Valid comparison requires similar sampling. The US avg murder rate is skewed higher by the massively higher rates of black on black homicides. Those homicids are also happening in very localized geographic areas. The comparison of murder rate of vacationers to citizens in their own countries is also absurd because vacationers are only on vacation for short duration measured in days, maybe weeks, rather than almost an entire year in the resident country. Also residents are often killed by family members so it's further invalid not to compare average murder in residence country to vacation homicide. If you want to compare vacation homicides, you would have to compare homicide rates of vacationer in the countries being compared. Also, they may be comparing apples to oranges. They are comparing "US Citizens In Mexico" to "per 100,000 visitors." How many people there with dual nationalities? How many with residency? Retirees/expats? How many US citizens going back and forth for "business", i.e. Ozark, not there for tourism? How many are there to FAFO? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:49:15 PM EDT
[#46]
To each his own, but spending $500 a day at a fancy hotel on a beach that I can't leave isn't really my idea of vacation because it removes the entire essence of vacation which for me involves travel, food, new experience, physical activities and conversations with people. People at work in hospitality industries can certainly be part of the people experience but I would feel unaccomplished if that was the sole source of people or if it were just party people.
Honestly, I think the surfers were on a real vacation. I think going to a resort is more like going to a shopping mall. I find one of the best ways for me to enjoy a locality is by being with people from that locality. The explanations and the fact that I don't start out like a clueless, awkward kindergarten child with respect to local manners is helpful to me. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:51:43 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: To each his own, but spending $500 a day at a fancy hotel on a beach that I can't leave isn't really my idea of vacation because it removes the entire essence of vacation which for me involves travel, food, new experience, physical activities and conversations with people. People at work in hospitality industries can certainly be part of the people experience but I would feel unaccomplished if that was the sole source of people or if it were just party people. Honestly, I think the surfers were on a real vacation. I think going to a resort is more like going to a shopping mall. I find one of the best ways for me to enjoy a locality is by being with people from that locality. The explanations and the fact that I don't start out like a clueless, awkward kindergarten child with respect to local manners is helpful to me.  100% |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 1:58:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HoodyHoo21: I was in Mexico (Tulum) a few months ago and we're not planning to return. It wasn't that I felt unsafe, but the big reason so many people went to Mexico is because it's "cheap". Well, it's sure not cheap anymore. I'm not gonna pay that kind of money to go to some place like Mexico.....I'd much rather pay the same amount and go to Belize or Costa Rica. We had to take a taxi from our resort to the town of Tulum and it was $45 USD each way....to go 1.2 miles!!!! Yeah, not going back. You went to the most touristy and expensive place in the Yucatan Peninsula. Tulum is now a shithole tourist trap ruined by the hipster Instagram crowd. Go to Puerto Morelos and stay at the Amar Inn right off the beach. Ignore the chickenshits that never leave moms basement. There is zero data to suggest American tourists are not safe in Mexico. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:08:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DollopLobber: You went to the most touristy and expensive place in the Yucatan Peninsula. Tulum is now a shithole tourist trap ruined by the hipster Instagram crowd. Go to Puerto Morelos and stay at the Amar Inn right off the beach. Ignore the chickenshits that never leave moms basement. There is zero data to suggest American tourists are not safe in Mexico. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DollopLobber: Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21: I was in Mexico (Tulum) a few months ago and we're not planning to return. It wasn't that I felt unsafe, but the big reason so many people went to Mexico is because it's "cheap". Well, it's sure not cheap anymore. I'm not gonna pay that kind of money to go to some place like Mexico.....I'd much rather pay the same amount and go to Belize or Costa Rica. We had to take a taxi from our resort to the town of Tulum and it was $45 USD each way....to go 1.2 miles!!!! Yeah, not going back. You went to the most touristy and expensive place in the Yucatan Peninsula. Tulum is now a shithole tourist trap ruined by the hipster Instagram crowd. Go to Puerto Morelos and stay at the Amar Inn right off the beach. Ignore the chickenshits that never leave moms basement. There is zero data to suggest American tourists are not safe in Mexico. I'll take note of Puerto Morelos. You're right about Tulum, it is a shithole. I didn't find the city of Tulum or the resort we stayed in (Kore Tulum Retreat) to be nice at all. And I wasn't exaggerating about the taxi cost. I just have a bad attitude about Mexico at the moment since our last trip struck a nerve. 
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:12:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LittleBigHorn]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houstons_Problem: To each his own, but spending $500 a day at a fancy hotel on a beach that I can't leave isn't really my idea of vacation because it removes the entire essence of vacation which for me involves travel, food, new experience, physical activities and conversations with people. People at work in hospitality industries can certainly be part of the people experience but I would feel unaccomplished if that was the sole source of people or if it were just party people. Honestly, I think the surfers were on a real vacation. I think going to a resort is more like going to a shopping mall. I find one of the best ways for me to enjoy a locality is by being with people from that locality. The explanations and the fact that I don't start out like a clueless, awkward kindergarten child with respect to local manners is helpful to me. 100% You can go to the Jersey fucking shit hole shore if you want to sit on the beach in a chair, or go to a friends house if you want to sit by the pool. To me, that's not a vacation. From what I'm reading, these two guys weren't doing anything inherently less safe than their actual hobby of surfing, just wrong place wrong time. |
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