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Posted: 5/5/2024 1:48:51 PM EDT
Way to go Sony. You had one job, not fuck it up with a forced PSN account. Yet here we are.... Is anyone going for a refund?
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 1:51:08 PM EDT
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Whats this about OP?
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Posted: 5/5/2024 1:51:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: odiedodi]
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Never bought it, but I was going to. Dodged a bullet.
Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 1:56:33 PM EDT
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I’m thinking about it
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 1:57:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Sony waited just over 4 months after release before they pulled this BS, which put it just outside the normal range for a credit chargeback. Lots of people are pissed off about this one.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 1:58:23 PM EDT
[#5]
 Arrowhead vs Sony Right Now |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 1:59:15 PM EDT
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And the PSN service isn't available in some countries, so a lot of people are just simply locked out from playing
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Posted: 5/5/2024 1:59:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: odiedodi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GimpyPaw: Sony waited just over 4 months after release before they pulled this BS, which put it just outside the normal range for a credit chargeback. Lots of people are pissed off about this one. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 1:59:25 PM EDT
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 Dead Helldiver |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:01:06 PM EDT
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:14:50 PM EDT
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I've hated Sony since back when call of duty was full of hackers that they did nothing about.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:15:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kolat: I've hated Sony since back when call of duty was full of hackers that they did nothing about. Remember when they released a new game and the only calling cards available were various pride flags? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:19:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kolat: I've hated Sony since back when call of duty was full of hackers that they did nothing about. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:21:48 PM EDT
[#13]
There is significant chance that Sony will back down from this stooooopid idea.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:22:43 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: Steam's issuing refunds now. I don't know how consistent that is. On the podcast I was listening to last night though, one of the Cohosts had his refund approved. I'm gonna try for one. I bought the game a couple months but haven't installed it yet and now I didn't want to. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:23:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Echd]
[#15]
I should do it so I will feel vindicated for it in a month when Sony unleashes pride month capes for buttdivers.
The game is fun but arrowhead seems like a shitty dev with bad games as a service practices and how they let it influence their balancing. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:25:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Remember when they released a new game and the only calling cards available were various pride flags? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By Kolat: I've hated Sony since back when call of duty was full of hackers that they did nothing about. Remember when they released a new game and the only calling cards available were various pride flags? I am waiting for Skyrim 6 Do u get to the cloud district very often |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:29:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Notcalifornialegal]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I am waiting for Skyrim 6 Do u get to the cloud district very often Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By Kolat: I've hated Sony since back when call of duty was full of hackers that they did nothing about. Remember when they released a new game and the only calling cards available were various pride flags? I am waiting for Skyrim 6 Do u get to the cloud district very often  Day 961 - Killing Nazeem Every Day Until Elder Scrolls 6 is Released |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:29:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jonny762]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? edit: see I was beat. it's a clusterfuck |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:30:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:31:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I am waiting for Skyrim 6 Do u get to the cloud district very often Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By Kolat: I've hated Sony since back when call of duty was full of hackers that they did nothing about. Remember when they released a new game and the only calling cards available were various pride flags? I am waiting for Skyrim 6 Do u get to the cloud district very often Pff.  Our Next Chapter On Road To Release | SKYBLIVION Development Diary 5 |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:31:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By Kolat: I've hated Sony since back when call of duty was full of hackers that they did nothing about. Remember when they released a new game and the only calling cards available were various pride flags? I am waiting for Skyrim 6 Do u get to the cloud district very often  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OLUSIKtlZwThe first time I got werewolf powers from the club I tried to kill him but I killed the shopkeeper so I never had a storekeep in whiterun the rest of the game 🤣 |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:33:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. The shift away from server tools and community servers was a turrible thing. Literally one of the worst things to come to multiplayer games and gamers. Rarely do I meet new gamer friends, the group of people I play with now are the same ones I gamed with 10-15+ years ago when community servers were the thing. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:34:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: And the PSN service isn't available in some countries, so a lot of people are just simply locked out from playing |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:38:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Notcalifornialegal]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The first time I got werewolf powers from the club I tried to kill him but I killed the shopkeeper so I never had a storekeep in whiterun the rest of the game 🤣 Sir you can do all kinds of fun things with Nazeem. For example you can kill him and capture his soul in a black soul gem and use it to enchant a fork that you can leave in your house.  You can even send him to space! 
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:39:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -daddy: The shift away from server tools and community servers was a turrible thing. Literally one of the worst things to come to multiplayer games and gamers. Rarely do I meet new gamer friends, the group of people I play with now are the same ones I gamed with 10-15+ years ago when community servers were the thing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. The shift away from server tools and community servers was a turrible thing. Literally one of the worst things to come to multiplayer games and gamers. Rarely do I meet new gamer friends, the group of people I play with now are the same ones I gamed with 10-15+ years ago when community servers were the thing. It was the natural progression after everyone bought into that idiotic idea called "steam." If they can control your access to the game that tightly regarding buying and playing, why not be a rapacious control freak about everythine else you can - after all, you can sell your player's information (and access to them for ads and such) for money. People love big brother. Try and say anything bad about steam and the kids who don't know a before will freak out on you due to their ignorance. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:39:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. "There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere." That's due to a UK/Ireland law, has nothing to do with Sony or AH "The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out." Sony is now enforcing the requirement. This has always been a requirement with both Sony and Microsoft online games for over decade. The CEO and AH knew this was a requirement and was going to be enforced, months prior to release. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:40:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: And the PSN service isn't available in some countries, so a lot of people are just simply locked out from playing I've already heard people talking about using a VPN and giving fake data just so they can play the stupid game. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:41:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SouthEndXGF]
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Gamers as a whole are the worst. This is one of the best games released in years. I’m going to keep playing.
Helldivers isn’t dead. Gamers are just stupid. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:42:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: It was the natural progression after everyone bought into that idiotic idea called "steam." If they can control your access to the game that tightly regarding buying and playing, why not be a rapacious control freak about everythine else you can - after all, you can sell your player's information (and access to them for ads and such) for money. People love big brother. Try and say anything bad about steam and the kids who don't know a before will freak out on you due to their ignorance. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. The shift away from server tools and community servers was a turrible thing. Literally one of the worst things to come to multiplayer games and gamers. Rarely do I meet new gamer friends, the group of people I play with now are the same ones I gamed with 10-15+ years ago when community servers were the thing. It was the natural progression after everyone bought into that idiotic idea called "steam." If they can control your access to the game that tightly regarding buying and playing, why not be a rapacious control freak about everythine else you can - after all, you can sell your player's information (and access to them for ads and such) for money. People love big brother. Try and say anything bad about steam and the kids who don't know a before will freak out on you due to their ignorance. Blaming Valve for a lack of private servers offered in games? 
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:42:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: "There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere." That's due to a UK/Ireland law, has nothing to do with Sony or AH "The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out." Sony is now enforcing the requirement. This has always been a requirement with both Sony and Microsoft online games for over decade. The CEO and AH knew this was a requirement and was going to be enforced, months prior to release. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. "There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere." That's due to a UK/Ireland law, has nothing to do with Sony or AH "The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out." Sony is now enforcing the requirement. This has always been a requirement with both Sony and Microsoft online games for over decade. The CEO and AH knew this was a requirement and was going to be enforced, months prior to release. Sony and data security are two words that should not be combined. Sony is one of the worst offenders out there, turrible, just turrible. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:42:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: "There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere." That's due to a UK/Ireland law, has nothing to do with Sony or AH "The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out." Sony is now enforcing the requirement. This has always been a requirement with both Sony and Microsoft online games for over decade. The CEO and AH knew this was a requirement and was going to be enforced, months prior to release. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. "There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere." That's due to a UK/Ireland law, has nothing to do with Sony or AH "The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out." Sony is now enforcing the requirement. This has always been a requirement with both Sony and Microsoft online games for over decade. The CEO and AH knew this was a requirement and was going to be enforced, months prior to release. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:44:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Blaming Valve for a lack of private servers offered in games? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. The shift away from server tools and community servers was a turrible thing. Literally one of the worst things to come to multiplayer games and gamers. Rarely do I meet new gamer friends, the group of people I play with now are the same ones I gamed with 10-15+ years ago when community servers were the thing. It was the natural progression after everyone bought into that idiotic idea called "steam." If they can control your access to the game that tightly regarding buying and playing, why not be a rapacious control freak about everythine else you can - after all, you can sell your player's information (and access to them for ads and such) for money. People love big brother. Try and say anything bad about steam and the kids who don't know a before will freak out on you due to their ignorance. Blaming Valve for a lack of private servers offered in games? No, I didn't blame valve. "It was the natural progression ... "Natural progression" is not valve/steam. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:44:09 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Klee: They were never really pro-consumer, they used to just get away with shady business practices because nobody knew any better. I think most people are still oblivious to the fact that they had a total embargo on 2D imports for the first year of the Playstation's lifecycle. Big studios were able to fight them on it, but smaller ones couldn't, and as a result, a lot of great 2D games never made it over here. By the time the embargo was lifted, it didn't make as much financial sense to try to import games that they didn't think would sell well due to blatant manipulation of western consumer interest. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:45:23 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Sir you can do all kinds of fun things with Nazeem. For example you can kill him and capture his soul in a black soul gem and use it to enchant a fork that you can leave in your house. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/1000008219-3206222.jpg You can even send him to space! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/1000008220-3206226.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The first time I got werewolf powers from the club I tried to kill him but I killed the shopkeeper so I never had a storekeep in whiterun the rest of the game 🤣 Sir you can do all kinds of fun things with Nazeem. For example you can kill him and capture his soul in a black soul gem and use it to enchant a fork that you can leave in your house. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/1000008219-3206222.jpg You can even send him to space! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/1000008220-3206226.gif  I put WAY too many hours into that game. I would make rare potions to make rare potions to make crazy armor then make more rare potions to enhance crafting to make things even better. Tfw u had a legendary set of armor for every task in the game |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:46:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -daddy: Sony and data security are two words that should not be combined. Sony is one of the worst offenders out there, turrible, just turrible. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. "There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere." That's due to a UK/Ireland law, has nothing to do with Sony or AH "The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out." Sony is now enforcing the requirement. This has always been a requirement with both Sony and Microsoft online games for over decade. The CEO and AH knew this was a requirement and was going to be enforced, months prior to release. Sony and data security are two words that should not be combined. Sony is one of the worst offenders out there, turrible, just turrible. Sony has leaked less of my data than the US gov. 
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:47:20 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Sony has leaked less of my data than the US gov. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. "There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere." That's due to a UK/Ireland law, has nothing to do with Sony or AH "The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out." Sony is now enforcing the requirement. This has always been a requirement with both Sony and Microsoft online games for over decade. The CEO and AH knew this was a requirement and was going to be enforced, months prior to release. Sony and data security are two words that should not be combined. Sony is one of the worst offenders out there, turrible, just turrible. Sony has leaked less of my data than the US gov. Fair point.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:48:00 PM EDT
[#37]
I played this morning.
I have every war bond complete and all ship modules unlocked and max samples. I won't refund, but I'll probably pause and play valheim. Fuck Sony, never liked their stuff. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:48:20 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SouthEndXGF: Gamers as a whole are the worst. This is one of the best games released in years. I'm going to keep playing. Helldivers isn't dead. Gamers are just stupid. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:48:40 PM EDT
[#39]
I don't get it. I have Helldivers 2, and I haven't been forced to sign up with Sony.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:48:58 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: No, I didn't blame valve. "It was the natural progression ... "Natural progression" is not valve/steam. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. The shift away from server tools and community servers was a turrible thing. Literally one of the worst things to come to multiplayer games and gamers. Rarely do I meet new gamer friends, the group of people I play with now are the same ones I gamed with 10-15+ years ago when community servers were the thing. It was the natural progression after everyone bought into that idiotic idea called "steam." If they can control your access to the game that tightly regarding buying and playing, why not be a rapacious control freak about everythine else you can - after all, you can sell your player's information (and access to them for ads and such) for money. People love big brother. Try and say anything bad about steam and the kids who don't know a before will freak out on you due to their ignorance. Blaming Valve for a lack of private servers offered in games? No, I didn't blame valve. "It was the natural progression ... "Natural progression" is not valve/steam. So if it's the natural progression, why even mention the ""idiotic idea called "steam."" ? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:50:51 PM EDT
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[#41]
Try out Earth Defense Force 5. It scratches the itch. 6 Is coming soon.
Complete with really bad Godzilla style voice acting. EDF has been doing Hell Divers, before Hell Divers was a thing.  Earth Defense Force 5 Review  TOMAHAWKING SPIDERS FOR TRESPASSING | Earth Defense Force 4.1: The Shadow of New Despair (Reupload) |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:50:54 PM EDT
[#42]
Reminds me of when people who had watched Vikings on the History Channel were told they would have to get an Amazon pay account just to watch the final 10 episodes/2nd half of season 6.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:52:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -daddy: Sony and data security are two words that should not be combined. Sony is one of the worst offenders out there, turrible, just turrible. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. "There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere." That's due to a UK/Ireland law, has nothing to do with Sony or AH "The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out." Sony is now enforcing the requirement. This has always been a requirement with both Sony and Microsoft online games for over decade. The CEO and AH knew this was a requirement and was going to be enforced, months prior to release. Sony and data security are two words that should not be combined. Sony is one of the worst offenders out there, turrible, just turrible. We're talking about the same Sony that put a rootkit full of exploits on music CDs, right? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:52:48 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: Given the two sides and involved here I'm quite surprised you'd side with Sony of all things It takes a throwaway email account to sign up for PSN. I’ve had an account for a long time. This isn’t worth quitting a game I love to play over. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:53:42 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: No, I didn't blame valve. "It was the natural progression ... "Natural progression" is not valve/steam. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:00:29 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: Steam was very much a natural progression. It was an answer to the piracy problem, which would be rampant now if fair digital platforms didn't exist. It's never been easier to pirate now. You can find repacks/cracks of anything you want, and have them downloading in minutes, but most gamers don't, and steam is a large part of why they don't. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: No, I didn't blame valve. "It was the natural progression ... "Natural progression" is not valve/steam. Technically correct. But. The download numbers for cracked games is astronomical. Hell, there are launchers/automatic downloaders for cracked games that rival GOG/steam. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:00:40 PM EDT
[#47]
I'm surprised no one remembered the time Sony installed a rootkit on people's computers from an audio CD as an anti piracy measure.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:02:37 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Keymaster4225: I'm surprised no one remembered the time Sony installed a rootkit on people's computers from an audio CD as an anti piracy measure. Are my posts invisible or something? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:02:54 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NotJackMiller: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NotJackMiller: Originally Posted By Keymaster4225: I'm surprised no one remembered the time Sony installed a rootkit on people's computers from an audio CD as an anti piracy measure.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:09:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: So if it's the natural progression, why even mention the ""idiotic idea called "steam."" ? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By -daddy: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Phillbilly: Whats this about OP? @Phillbilly The company that makes helldivers is now forcing everyone to link to the playstation network to be able to play the game when that was not necessary when it initially came out. This includes people who don't have a playstation and aren't using the PSN and who bought and play the game on a PC only. There are some very wild stories about having to give sony your government ID and do biometric face scans and etc to register on their network, and sony/psn has had the living daylights hacked out of it for years now, leaking people's information everywhere. This happened because the company that made the game had no idea how many people would want to play the game on release date and the demand to get on the servers to play outstripped what the servers could handle and the company that made the game had to do anything they could to meet the demand, and part of that included not making people also register for the playstation network to play the game, which apparently WAS a requirement they were going to force on everyone. People are pretty sure this is something that sony is coercing all the game makers to do so sony can bluster and blow sunshine up investor's orifices with artificially inflated player count numbers. The company that makes the game also shot itself in the foot via one of it's employees or contractors (a community manager, IIRC) making comments on twitter about why they did it, people called bunk on her initial reasoning for it, and she than said "it's so we can block and ban people more effectively." Of course that led to her getting raked over the coals and she locked up her twitter account. HD2@ reviews have turned negative VERY quickly and people are beyond ticked. ------------------------ This is why gamers need to re-learn that they should DEMAND private server software. You CANNOT trust the game makers and networks. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. If you're setup on your own private server with your own voice comms and robust in game text chat the game company has a very hard time screwing with you. The shift away from server tools and community servers was a turrible thing. Literally one of the worst things to come to multiplayer games and gamers. Rarely do I meet new gamer friends, the group of people I play with now are the same ones I gamed with 10-15+ years ago when community servers were the thing. It was the natural progression after everyone bought into that idiotic idea called "steam." If they can control your access to the game that tightly regarding buying and playing, why not be a rapacious control freak about everythine else you can - after all, you can sell your player's information (and access to them for ads and such) for money. People love big brother. Try and say anything bad about steam and the kids who don't know a before will freak out on you due to their ignorance. Blaming Valve for a lack of private servers offered in games? No, I didn't blame valve. "It was the natural progression ... "Natural progression" is not valve/steam. The words I posted said it was because of the natural progression. You'll have to say they don't for your point to be correct. Why mention valve? Because they were one of the bigger streams that came before the river and fed into it, even though they aren't the river (river = removing private servers and requiring players to use the developer's servers). |
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