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Posted: 9/5/2012 7:13:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Stickman]
[#1]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Seeing that makes me want a 12.5" RIS II style 12.5"? 
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Posted: 9/5/2012 7:58:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By thesocialistnetwork:
SU-231 should be here Thursday, FDE RIS II is backordered, lower is complete for now. Going to be running Troy BUIS, PWS FSC556 with Surefire M300A light and TD stubby VFG. Am I good to go? Refer to the very first post in this thread by Doc, which outlines the Block II components. The SU-231, RIS II, Surefire light, and probably even the TD stubby VFG are definitely good to go, but I'm not sure about the PWS... Troy BUIS have been spotted on at least one Block II in the wild if I recall.
Also, for image reference: Seeing that makes me want a 12.5" Was the 12.5 ever issued? |
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Posted: 9/5/2012 8:32:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Seeing that makes me want a 12.5" [/div] RIS II style 12.5"? http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Centurion%20Arms/CTML0096-1024-Stick.jpg Can that variant use the M203 like the M4A1 version? |
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Posted: 9/5/2012 8:44:37 PM EDT
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Yes, the 12.5 GL/SSC is meant to be able to use both a M203 and a suppressor. I hear that there are only a handful out in civilian hands and Stickman is one of the few that have one. DD seems to have no interest in selling it to the public and no dealers have stepped up and ordered a batch.
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Posted: 9/5/2012 8:44:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By Stickman: Originally Posted By Lancelot: Seeing that makes me want a 12.5" [/div] RIS II style 12.5"? http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Centurion%20Arms/CTML0096-1024-Stick.jpg Can that variant use the M203 like the M4A1 version? Yes. Its called the GL / SSC. Grenade Launcher, sound suppressor capable. |
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Posted: 9/5/2012 8:45:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By Lancelot: Seeing that makes me want a 12.5" [/div] RIS II style 12.5"? http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Centurion%20Arms/CTML0096-1024-Stick.jpg Yes. |
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Posted: 9/5/2012 9:41:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stickman: Originally Posted By Lancelot: Seeing that makes me want a 12.5" RIS II style 12.5"? http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Centurion%20Arms/CTML0096-1024-Stick.jpg Dear God that makes me hard. |
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Posted: 9/5/2012 9:55:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ragincajun1919]
[#8]
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Seeing that makes me want a 12.5" RIS II style 12.5"? http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Centurion%20Arms/CTML0096-1024-Stick.jpg Dear God that makes me hard. I think stick has some type of alert set to show up in here whenever someone mentions a 12.5" barrel Pic Thread My "phased replacement" sopmod kit 
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Posted: 9/5/2012 10:49:00 PM EDT
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Old pictures of my cousin.
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Posted: 9/5/2012 11:30:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Seeing that makes me want a 12.5" RIS II style 12.5"? http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Centurion%20Arms/CTML0096-1024-Stick.jpg Dear God that makes me hard. I think stick has some type of alert set to show up in here whenever someone mentions a 12.5" barrel Pic Thread My "phased replacement" sopmod kit http://i46.tinypic.com/4uuc6u.jpg]http://i46.tinypic.com/4uuc6u.jpg http://www.gunsight.ru/articles/1_006/sopmod_block2.jpg]http://www.gunsight.ru/articles/1_006/sopmod_block2.jpg Put it together already 
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Posted: 9/5/2012 11:37:07 PM EDT
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Gotta decide if I want to put the FSP RISII on my 5.45 caliber upper or on my incoming 5.56 upper. Plus, I have to go to my in-laws because that's where the gun workbench is and I'm going there tomorrow anyway (my Les Paul is arriving there tomorrow).
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Posted: 9/5/2012 11:50:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Gotta decide if I want to put the FSP RISII on my 5.45 caliber upper or on my incoming 5.56 upper. Plus, I have to go to my in-laws because that's where the gun workbench is and I'm going there tomorrow anyway (my Les Paul is arriving there tomorrow). Wanna sell that ras?
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Posted: 9/6/2012 12:08:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ragincajun1919: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By Stickman: Originally Posted By Lancelot: Seeing that makes me want a 12.5" RIS II style 12.5"? http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Centurion%20Arms/CTML0096-1024-Stick.jpg Dear God that makes me hard. I think stick has some type of alert set to show up in here whenever someone mentions a 12.5" barrel Pic Thread My "phased replacement" sopmod kit http://i46.tinypic.com/4uuc6u.jpg http://www.gunsight.ru/articles/1_006/sopmod_block2.jpg Totally fucking badass... |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 12:18:50 AM EDT
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Kinda makes me want to build out my 1.5 upper into a complete gun, instead of just the upper itself:
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Posted: 9/6/2012 12:29:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ThePitt]
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ragincajun1919
your IM box is full so I sent you an email |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 2:07:47 AM EDT
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Im sure everyone is tired of me posting pics of the same rifle but I took a group photo today with my new baby that came in today (mk12)
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Posted: 9/6/2012 7:46:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancelot]
[#17]
Its a well known fact, as proved in other threads, that Stick has my phone tapped, and subscribes to all my posts. If the number 12 is used, he shows up and rubs my nose in one of his pictures.
Serious question. Is the rail on the 12.5 the same rail that is on the 14.5? Because if it is, you could slap that rail on any 12.5 for clone purposes and be close. You wouldn't need the exact barrel. Or, could you cut down a 14.5 M4 barrel to 12.5 and make that work? Just a thought. |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 8:39:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: osha]
[#18]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Its a well known fact, as proved in other threads, that Stick has my phone tapped, and subscribes to all my posts. If the number 12 is used, he shows up and rubs my nose in one of his pictures. Serious question. Is the rail on the 12.5 the same rail that is on the 14.5? Because if it is, you could slap that rail on any 12.5 for clone purposes and be close. You wouldn't need the exact barrel. Or, could you cut down a 14.5 M4 barrel to 12.5 and make that work? Just a thought. The rail on the 12.5" is the RIS II GL/SSC - Grenade Launcher/Sound Suppressor Compatible. It's in between the M4 and MK18 RIS II. It's the longest the rail can be on a 12.5" barrel that allows an NT4 and an M203. Obviously, the MK18 rail does not have the option of mounting the M203, whereas the M4 rail does. The GL/SSC appears to be impossible to obtain, unless a substantial order is made (if I remember correctly). ETA: Pic thread. Note the SCARs have black Elcans. 
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Posted: 9/6/2012 1:21:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By osha:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Its a well known fact, as proved in other threads, that Stick has my phone tapped, and subscribes to all my posts. If the number 12 is used, he shows up and rubs my nose in one of his pictures. Serious question. Is the rail on the 12.5 the same rail that is on the 14.5? Because if it is, you could slap that rail on any 12.5 for clone purposes and be close. You wouldn't need the exact barrel. Or, could you cut down a 14.5 M4 barrel to 12.5 and make that work? Just a thought. The rail on the 12.5" is the RIS II GL/SSC - Grenade Launcher/Sound Suppressor Compatible. It's in between the M4 and MK18 RIS II. It's the longest the rail can be on a 12.5" barrel that allows an NT4 and an M203. Obviously, the MK18 rail does not have the option of mounting the M203, whereas the M4 rail does. The GL/SSC appears to be impossible to obtain, unless a substantial order is made (if I remember correctly). ETA: Pic thread. Note the SCARs have black Elcans. https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/576966_485459478139951_681062814_n.jpg Guy in the middle looks like this guy in one of my classes. I knew he was a operator
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Posted: 9/6/2012 1:29:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By osha: Originally Posted By Lancelot: Its a well known fact, as proved in other threads, that Stick has my phone tapped, and subscribes to all my posts. If the number 12 is used, he shows up and rubs my nose in one of his pictures. Serious question. Is the rail on the 12.5 the same rail that is on the 14.5? Because if it is, you could slap that rail on any 12.5 for clone purposes and be close. You wouldn't need the exact barrel. Or, could you cut down a 14.5 M4 barrel to 12.5 and make that work? Just a thought. The rail on the 12.5" is the RIS II GL/SSC - Grenade Launcher/Sound Suppressor Compatible. It's in between the M4 and MK18 RIS II. It's the longest the rail can be on a 12.5" barrel that allows an NT4 and an M203. Obviously, the MK18 rail does not have the option of mounting the M203, whereas the M4 rail does. The GL/SSC appears to be impossible to obtain, unless a substantial order is made (if I remember correctly). ETA: Pic thread. Note the SCARs have black Elcans. https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/576966_485459478139951_681062814_n.jpg Combat beards = win. |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 1:35:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Originally Posted By osha:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Its a well known fact, as proved in other threads, that Stick has my phone tapped, and subscribes to all my posts. If the number 12 is used, he shows up and rubs my nose in one of his pictures. Serious question. Is the rail on the 12.5 the same rail that is on the 14.5? Because if it is, you could slap that rail on any 12.5 for clone purposes and be close. You wouldn't need the exact barrel. Or, could you cut down a 14.5 M4 barrel to 12.5 and make that work? Just a thought. The rail on the 12.5" is the RIS II GL/SSC - Grenade Launcher/Sound Suppressor Compatible. It's in between the M4 and MK18 RIS II. It's the longest the rail can be on a 12.5" barrel that allows an NT4 and an M203. Obviously, the MK18 rail does not have the option of mounting the M203, whereas the M4 rail does. The GL/SSC appears to be impossible to obtain, unless a substantial order is made (if I remember correctly). ETA: Pic thread. Note the SCARs have black Elcans. https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/576966_485459478139951_681062814_n.jpg Guy on the right has the 1.5/6x Elcan |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 1:55:24 PM EDT
[#22]
Originally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By osha:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Its a well known fact, as proved in other threads, that Stick has my phone tapped, and subscribes to all my posts. If the number 12 is used, he shows up and rubs my nose in one of his pictures. Serious question. Is the rail on the 12.5 the same rail that is on the 14.5? Because if it is, you could slap that rail on any 12.5 for clone purposes and be close. You wouldn't need the exact barrel. Or, could you cut down a 14.5 M4 barrel to 12.5 and make that work? Just a thought. The rail on the 12.5" is the RIS II GL/SSC - Grenade Launcher/Sound Suppressor Compatible. It's in between the M4 and MK18 RIS II. It's the longest the rail can be on a 12.5" barrel that allows an NT4 and an M203. Obviously, the MK18 rail does not have the option of mounting the M203, whereas the M4 rail does. The GL/SSC appears to be impossible to obtain, unless a substantial order is made (if I remember correctly). ETA: Pic thread. Note the SCARs have black Elcans. https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/576966_485459478139951_681062814_n.jpg Guy on the right has the 1.5/6x Elcan was just going to say the same thing |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 3:30:46 PM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Its a well known fact, as proved in other threads, that Stick has my phone tapped, and subscribes to all my posts. If the number 12 is used, he shows up and rubs my nose in one of his pictures. Serious question. Is the rail on the 12.5 the same rail that is on the 14.5? Because if it is, you could slap that rail on any 12.5 for clone purposes and be close. You wouldn't need the exact barrel. Or, could you cut down a 14.5 M4 barrel to 12.5 and make that work? Just a thought. The M4 RIS II and the GL/SSC are not the same length. A 12.5 inch barrel is too short for the M4 RIS II. I think you could use a 13.5 with the M4 RIS II. |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 4:48:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 20aegti]
[#24]
Originally Posted By Postal0311:
The M4 RIS II and the GL/SSC are not the same length. A 12.5 inch barrel is too short for the M4 RIS II. I think you could use a 13.5 with the M4 RIS II. I have not posted my complete M4A1 SOPMOD Block II-ish rifle and extra upper because they are not necessarily to specs as I used a few different parts like sights and optic. However, I had both of the barrels cut down to 13-3/8" as this length allows for enough room between the suppressor mount and rail to mount my 7.62SDN6 can. It should be more than fine if you are not mounting a suppressor. |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 6:50:38 PM EDT
[#25]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Its a well known fact, as proved in other threads, that Stick has my phone tapped, and subscribes to all my posts. If the number 12 is used, he shows up and rubs my nose in one of his pictures. Serious question. Is the rail on the 12.5 the same rail that is on the 14.5? Because if it is, you could slap that rail on any 12.5 for clone purposes and be close. You wouldn't need the exact barrel. Or, could you cut down a 14.5 M4 barrel to 12.5 and make that work? Just a thought. You say that likes its a bad thing... I'll shoot a picture and show them next to each other. |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 8:12:48 PM EDT
[#26]
had my small arms qualification today. someone brought in their issued rifle.
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Posted: 9/6/2012 8:18:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThePitt]
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Posted: 9/6/2012 8:22:15 PM EDT
[#28]
Is that an issued banana peel?
Is this the first official EXPS we've seen on an M4A1? |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 9:06:49 PM EDT
[#29]
Originally Posted By osha: Is that an issued banana peel? Is this the first official EXPS we've seen on an M4A1? There's been a few here and there but definitely not widespread. |
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Posted: 9/6/2012 9:48:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Originally Posted By ThePitt:
had my small arms qualification today. someone brought in their issued rifle. http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee311/MPSpecV/photo15.jpg PJ? |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 12:37:21 AM EDT
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Current config... (dupe photo)...Promise to update photos of PR block 1.5 when I get home from Australia. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 2:52:32 AM EDT
[#32]
Originally Posted By Postal0311:
The M4 RIS II and the GL/SSC are not the same length. A 12.5 inch barrel is too short for the M4 RIS II. . Yup. 
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Posted: 9/7/2012 3:26:25 AM EDT
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  Block 1.5  |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 1:22:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/7/2012 2:22:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By osha: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/394249_518172514863174_1410395679_n.jpg Dammit. Now I have to get the Surefire can I've been drooling over for the past few months. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 3:00:56 PM EDT
[#36]
If only photobucket wasn't down. I'd have all kinds of awesome to share.
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Posted: 9/7/2012 7:22:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: silhouette_]
[#37]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
If only photobucket wasn't down. I'd have all kinds of awesome to share. Youre killin me smalls! |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 7:52:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/7/2012 8:48:11 PM EDT
[#39]
Originally Posted By osha:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/621575_10151153657864769_984064850_o.jpg That is a bad-ass picture. 
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Posted: 9/7/2012 9:00:09 PM EDT
[#40]
Wow, such luck. My photobucket came back online. SHitty cellphone pics because wife is out of town with BOTH our cameras
 My T-1 arrived from Larue, but I have another one coming in trade, so I gotta return this one.
Anyway... My block 1.5 is now a full on block ii, I kept burning my fingers and arms on the damn barrel when shooting it, and I had this RISII so, why not? I have another upper coming soon that'll be my 1.5. Anyways..... 
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Posted: 9/7/2012 9:09:14 PM EDT
[#41]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Wow, such luck. My photobucket came back online. SHitty cellphone pics because wife is out of town with BOTH our cameras My T-1 arrived from Larue, but I have another one coming in trade, so I gotta return this one.
Anyway... My block 1.5 is now a full on block ii, I kept burning my fingers and arms on the damn barrel when shooting it, and I had this RISII so, why not? I have another upper coming soon that'll be my 1.5. Anyways..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/punkrockpoet/PhotoSep0775612PM.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/punkrockpoet/PhotoSep0775554PM.jpg Those look good. How were you burning yourself with the 1.5? |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 9:22:18 PM EDT
[#42]
Hot barrel touching my skin when it was hanging on the sling. Also, I was gripping too far forward and burning the fingers. Not good. When the next 1.5 upper arrives, I'll put the 37mm on it and that'll take of that.
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Posted: 9/7/2012 9:40:50 PM EDT
[#43]
Good to see more T1 use on clones.
It would be nice if SOCOM was to ditch the SU-231 and go for just the T-1, Elcan, and maybe EXPS 3 in the standard optics lineup. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 9:50:46 PM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By GADeerHunter:
Good to see more T1 use on clones. It would be nice if SOCOM was to ditch the SU-231 and go for just the T-1, Elcan, and maybe EXPS 3 in the standard optics lineup. I like the T-1, but the 553 is still superior due to the reticle. LOVE the eotech reticle. Only wish the T-1 had the eotech reticle, then it would be perfect |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 10:30:24 PM EDT
[#45]
I shot today and still dont like the Su- 231, for whatever reason Im just stuck on the single dot.
Anyone have a T1 they want to trade for? I could add 
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Posted: 9/7/2012 10:51:44 PM EDT
[#46]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By GADeerHunter:
Good to see more T1 use on clones. It would be nice if SOCOM was to ditch the SU-231 and go for just the T-1, Elcan, and maybe EXPS 3 in the standard optics lineup. I like the T-1, but the 553 is still superior due to the reticle. LOVE the eotech reticle. Only wish the T-1 had the eotech reticle, then it would be perfect The 553 is sexy as hell. I wouldn't mind an aimpoint but the 553 is just such a badass sight. I love the reticle too. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 11:26:31 PM EDT
[#47]
Originally Posted By hatexoc:
I shot today and still dont like the Su- 231, for whatever reason Im just stuck on the single dot. Anyone have a T1 they want to trade for? I could add http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1729.jpg Is it normal to place the sight so far back? I've always preferred it more forward, connecting the receiver and rail.. |
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Posted: 9/7/2012 11:28:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GADeerHunter]
[#48]
"Sexiness" should be the least concern in a good sight.. And I'm not talking clones. For those of us fortunate enough to enjoy these guns on a 1 way range, Eotech's battery life and durability are of less-issue. But for those in the fray, in the 2 way range, there are just better options.
The Aimpoint T1 is just so much more robust and durable, not to mention its 50x longer battery life. ACOGS are built like tanks. Aimpoints are built like tanks. Elcans are built like tanks. Eotechs? Built like a Toyota Prius.
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Posted: 9/8/2012 12:05:12 AM EDT
[#49]
Originally Posted By GADeerHunter:
"Sexiness" should be the least concern in a good sight.. And I'm not talking clones. For those of us fortunate enough to enjoy these guns on a 1 way range, Eotech's battery life and durability are of less-issue. But for those in the fray, in the 2 way range, there are just better options. The Aimpoint T1 is just so much more robust and durable, not to mention its 50x longer battery life. ACOGS are built like tanks. Aimpoints are built like tanks. Elcans are built like tanks. Eotechs? Built like a Toyota Prius.
Pic http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8450/7953179138_0f7d97bcc4_b.jpg Not that this is a great place to use the aimpoint eotech debate but I don't exactly think eotech are toy grade equipment, especially not the SU231. |
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Posted: 9/8/2012 12:16:16 AM EDT
[#50]
Originally Posted By GADeerHunter:
"Sexiness" should be the least concern in a good sight.. And I'm not talking clones. For those of us fortunate enough to enjoy these guns on a 1 way range, Eotech's battery life and durability are of less-issue. But for those in the fray, in the 2 way range, there are just better options. The Aimpoint T1 is just so much more robust and durable, not to mention its 50x longer battery life. ACOGS are built like tanks. Aimpoints are built like tanks. Elcans are built like tanks. Eotechs? Built like a Toyota Prius.
Pic http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8450/7953179138_0f7d97bcc4_b.jpg Once again, not to derail, but the battery issue is less so with .mil folks. Anytime I need batteries for any of my gear, it is a short walk away (not even counting the 4 or 5 spare sets I carry). With the .mil you can replace the stuff before it gets anywhere near being dead. Also, from personal experience, Eotechs are pretty damn durable to abuse (my only experience is with the 553). If they were that fragile, .mil wouldn't be issuing them to the guys that use their gear the hardest. |
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