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Posted: 5/15/2018 2:24:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bduff:
I’ve been stalking these threads for awhile finally thought I’d share some of mine. Not 100% yet but it’s a work in progress of cloning the level zero hero. http://i67.tinypic.com/flbm9v.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/2irwo8.jpg |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 3:04:43 PM EDT
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Glitch
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Posted: 5/15/2018 4:26:36 PM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2018 4:36:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gatordev]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled: I want to toss a riser under the elcan, I think that would help some with the sopmod. 
It worked well at 1x (I'm a long-necker, as well). FWIW, for the moment I'm using that same riser under a LT-104 for my ATACR 1-8 until I can order a 1.93 mount. Again, because of how the SOPMOD stock (which I love) pushes you left a bit, the riser works really well with that scope. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 4:55:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gatordev: I ran that setup for a while using a 1/2" riser, albeit on my CQBR. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1656/25995507383_3f9d2d5195_b.jpg It worked well at 1x (I'm a long-necker, as well). FWIW, for the moment I'm using that same riser under a LT-104 for my ATACR 1-8 until I can order a 1.93 mount. Again, because of how the SOPMOD stock (which I love) pushes you left a bit, the riser works really well with that scope. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 6:33:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmb5286:
Got this one on the way. Just when I thought I was out of the clone game, you all pull me back in.... 
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/910/41408284874_d2888dbda1_b.jpg Now time to lock down an SU-231a and WMX200 that isn't $1k. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 6:40:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ: Nice upper. Is that a 4P? Looks like it, but I can't quite tell for sure. 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 6:43:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
Wow that looks like my 2 FSP upper had a fraternal twin between them and there it is Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
Originally Posted By 871JZ: Nice upper. Is that a 4P? Looks like it, but I can't quite tell for sure. 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 6:45:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ: I don't see the resemblance. 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:15:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
After all these years, Crane has finally been putting some CHF mid length uppers to work. And, I’m absolutely shocked to find out that the CHF and mid combo yields a more accurate and functional rifle for much longer...
Click Now the question is whether there will be a “Block 3.5” (or maybe “Block 4”) 14.5 SOPMOD version, or will there instea be some other formalized variant. 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:16:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
Originally Posted By 871JZ: I don't see the resemblance. https://i.imgur.com/M7zmotl.jpg
BTW, you should've bought my SR07/Scout tailcap instead of the other dude's. I would've hooked a brotha up. 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:16:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ: Nice upper. Is that a 4P? Looks like it, but I can't quite tell for sure. 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:19:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
After all these years, Crane has finally been putting some CHF mid length uppers to work. And, I’m absolutely shocked to find out that the CHF and mid combo yields a more accurate and functional rifle for much longer...
Click 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:21:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmb5286:
Yessir. Though I can’t get a can for it since I live in Illinois. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmb5286:
Originally Posted By 871JZ: Nice upper. Is that a 4P? Looks like it, but I can't quite tell for sure.
At least you can enjoy having the 4P. I just got one recently, myself. 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:44:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ: Damn. Is Illinois really that bad? I knew Chicago was, but didn't realize the whole state sucked.
At least you can enjoy having the 4P. I just got one recently, myself. https://s9.postimg.cc/xyypoxnjz/20180502_130201.jpg https://s9.postimg.cc/w75qu39cv/20180502_125447.jpg |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:51:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ: Yeah, they kind of look similar. Like, just a little...
BTW, you should've bought my SR07/Scout tailcap instead of the other dude's. I would've hooked a brotha up. 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 7:58:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Originally Posted By cmb5286: Yup wife and I don’t live anywhere near Chicago. But unfortunately the city dictates anything gun related for the entire state. We southerners would love to have suppressors and SBRs. 
Originally Posted By aaron580: Email sent? 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 8:35:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmb5286: Yup wife and I don’t live anywhere near Chicago. But unfortunately the city dictates anything gun related for the entire state. We southerners would love to have suppressors and SBRs. 
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Posted: 5/15/2018 8:50:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Anyone looking to get rid of a front and/or rear CQD mount? Wanted to ask the guys that have these before I go purchase a new set.
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Posted: 5/15/2018 8:59:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
Anyone looking to get rid of a front and/or rear CQD mount? Wanted to ask the guys that have these before I go purchase a new set.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 9:03:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
If you buy new I reccomend thoroughbred armament https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/297824/ED8EC53C-1893-4C8C-A285-37B603A97DC8-545143.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
Originally Posted By 871JZ:
Anyone looking to get rid of a front and/or rear CQD mount? Wanted to ask the guys that have these before I go purchase a new set. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/297824/ED8EC53C-1893-4C8C-A285-37B603A97DC8-545143.JPG I'm gonna post a WTB ad in the EE just to see if I can score a used set first. If not, then I'll grab a new set. As far as Thoroughbred Armament, I was just checking them out yesterday after you mentioned getting your teardrop forward assist from them. Cool ass site. They have all the good shit that I like and they've got a great deal on new tan Surefire's and free shipping on all orders. Thanks for bringing them into the mix. Any vendor that specializes in Colt/KAC gear is tops in my book! |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 9:06:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ: @Spooled I'm gonna post a WTB ad in the EE just to see if I can score a used set first. If not, then I'll grab a new set. As far as Thoroughbred Armament, I was just checking them out yesterday after you mentioned getting your teardrop forward assist from them. Cool ass site. They have all the good shit that I like and they've got a great deal on new tan Surefire's. Thanks for bringing them into the mix. Any vendor that specializes in Colt/KAC gear is tops in my book! and free shipping on all orders. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 9:34:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AR-Ryan21]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
For some reason it's funny reading the title of that article. We could've told them that 7 years ago. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
After all these years, Crane has finally been putting some CHF mid length uppers to work. And, I’m absolutely shocked to find out that the CHF and mid combo yields a more accurate and functional rifle for much longer...
Click Though, as someone has already illustrated, reality is not all that obvious to everyone, and there’s surely still plenty of butthurt. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 10:17:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Spooled:
Bro they ship fast also, I ordered my b5 from them on a Saturday around noon, the post office had it by 3 that day and it was delivered on Monday. Same experience with the forward assist. and free shipping on all orders.
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Hah. No kidding. Though, as someone has already illustrated, reality is not all that obvious to everyone, and there’s surely still plenty of butthurt. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2018 10:30:21 PM EDT
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Hey there y'all. I'm putting out a feeler for a buddy of mine. What "clone correct" parts for the M4A1 are the hardest for you to find? I know for me it has been the Surefire 556 RC 4 Prong.
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Posted: 5/15/2018 10:35:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPDowning:
Hey there y'all. I'm putting out a feeler for a buddy of mine. What "clone correct" parts for the M4A1 are the hardest for you to find? I know for me it has been the Surefire 556 RC 4 Prong. https://i.imgur.com/mV6tZxv.jpg Some might say the Colt M4A1/SOCOM lower, but again, they're not really that difficult to locate, just expensive. I went a different route and had an 80% lower custom engraved with the correct markings by a well respected member known for this type of work, and then milled and refinished it myself. These are the only two parts I that I can think of, but I'm sure someone will be along with something I forgot about. There's a couple other parts like certain lights, for example, that can be difficult to find, but there are alternative options that are available everywhere, yet still allow for 100% clone correctness. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 10:59:34 PM EDT
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It’s extra rich to hear someone sarcastically cite “scientific evidence.” The “science” is actually what put this topic to bed before it was even up for debate. We knew from the very beginning that, theoretically, CHF and mid gas were both superior to their former configurations. Then, first, the civilian market confirmed that. And, now, the mil has also confirmed that. But, let’s keep talking about science lol.
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MB, CAN
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Posted: 5/15/2018 11:49:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ: The 4P is the only part that I think is actually tough to find. They're really not that difficult to find, they're just pricey, so you need to be prepared to pony up when you get the chance. They pop up in the EE once and a while, but I happened to get lucky and a member contacted me offering a trade deal. Some might say the Colt M4A1/SOCOM lower, but again, they're not really that difficult to locate, just expensive. I went a different route and had an 80% lower custom engraved with the correct markings by a well respected member known for this type of work, and then milled and refinished it myself. These are the only two parts I that I can think of, but I'm sure someone will be along with something I forgot about. There's a couple other parts like certain lights, for example, that can be difficult to find, but there are alternative options that are available everywhere, yet still allow for 100% clone correctness. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 11:54:04 PM EDT
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Yo, @AR-Ryan21 long time no see.
Are you coming back to the clone threads? |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 12:47:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Yo, @AR-Ryan21 long time no see. Are you coming back to the clone threads? Not really. Still own 3 CQBRs, but not all that interested in another 14.5” 5.56. Just saw LAV put that article up on FB yesterday, and it made me laugh and think about some of the past conversations I’ve had with individuals in these clone threads over the years lol. I still have been checking in from time to time. Not much, though. Pretty much just browse the hometown and outdoors forums these days. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2018 1:21:21 AM EDT
[#31]
Anyone looking for a legit SU-231a?
Email me! |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 2:12:18 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmb5286:
Yessir. Though I can’t get a can for it since I live in Illinois. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmb5286:
Originally Posted By 871JZ: Nice upper. Is that a 4P? Looks like it, but I can't quite tell for sure.
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Posted: 5/16/2018 2:14:22 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
My fiance is from southern IL, it sucks that I cant bring the good stuff with me, considering the vast places to shoot at Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
Originally Posted By cmb5286: Yup wife and I don’t live anywhere near Chicago. But unfortunately the city dictates anything gun related for the entire state. We southerners would love to have suppressors and SBRs. 
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Posted: 5/16/2018 7:51:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lerch641:
All true, unless you live outside the US, then it's goddamn EVERYTHING for a clone becomes hard to find. I was lucky to find an RIS II FSP for sale, let alone the rest. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lerch641:
Originally Posted By 871JZ: The 4P is the only part that I think is actually tough to find. They're really not that difficult to find, they're just pricey, so you need to be prepared to pony up when you get the chance. They pop up in the EE once and a while, but I happened to get lucky and a member contacted me offering a trade deal. Some might say the Colt M4A1/SOCOM lower, but again, they're not really that difficult to locate, just expensive. I went a different route and had an 80% lower custom engraved with the correct markings by a well respected member known for this type of work, and then milled and refinished it myself. These are the only two parts I that I can think of, but I'm sure someone will be along with something I forgot about. There's a couple other parts like certain lights, for example, that can be difficult to find, but there are alternative options that are available everywhere, yet still allow for 100% clone correctness. That's true. Honestly, I never even considered that. I wonder how many Block II clones there are outside of the United States. How do you get any parts? Doesn't ITAR pretty much restrict the exportation of just about everything? Do you have to rely on private individuals willing to chance shipping internationally? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2018 8:09:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Milla]
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So I broke down and purchased a DD RIS wrench. What an absolute pile of crap that thing is. It was out of spec from the get go but I kind of made it work. Torqued the nut to 50 ft lbs and the wrench teeth are now deformed. I can't back the nut off to torque it down again. Are all of their wrenches that garbage? What the hell do I do now? Stupid DD.
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Posted: 5/16/2018 8:39:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Milla:
So I broke down and purchased a DD RIS wrench. What an absolute pile of crap that thing is. It was out of spec from the get go but I kind of made it work. Torqued the nut to 50 ft lbs and the wrench teeth are now deformed. I can't back the nut off to torque it down again. Are all of their wrenches that garbage? What the hell do I do now? Stupid DD. |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 8:43:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ: @Lerch641 That's true. Honestly, I never even considered that. I wonder how many Block II clones there are outside of the United States. How do you get any parts? Doesn't ITAR pretty much restrict the exportation of just about everything? Do you have to rely on private individuals willing to chance shipping internationally? |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 9:02:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lerch641:
I run into ITAR issues all the time. Guys were more willing to send me M14E2 hardware and chance it, but when it came to stuff like an RIS II FSP, no dice. Ended up paying a premium for one from a licensed importer. Just waiting to grab my CQD parts that somebody brought up not realizing why nobody would ship across the border. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lerch641:
Originally Posted By 871JZ: @Lerch641 That's true. Honestly, I never even considered that. I wonder how many Block II clones there are outside of the United States. How do you get any parts? Doesn't ITAR pretty much restrict the exportation of just about everything? Do you have to rely on private individuals willing to chance shipping internationally? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2018 10:35:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Milla]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ: Leave it alone if it's torqued to 50. What else would you do? Lol. We all know the wrench sucks, that's why a lot of us use something else. I use a modified BCM KMR wrench, which is the same as any castle nut wrench. How are guys modifying these castle nut wrenches, just grinding down the teeth? |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 11:08:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Milla:
I usually like to back it off and torque it again to ensure the aeroshell made it on all the threads but yeah I'll leave it. Man that wrench is trash lol. How are guys modifying these castle nut wrenches, just grinding down the teeth? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Milla:
Originally Posted By 871JZ: Leave it alone if it's torqued to 50. What else would you do? Lol. We all know the wrench sucks, that's why a lot of us use something else. I use a modified BCM KMR wrench, which is the same as any castle nut wrench. How are guys modifying these castle nut wrenches, just grinding down the teeth? |
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USA
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Posted: 5/16/2018 11:20:30 AM EDT
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I finally put together my block 2 clone with the FSP ris2 but then I picked up the non-fsp dd ris 2. My questions is which rail do you guys think is better for the block 2 and why?
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Posted: 5/16/2018 11:37:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By X-man12:
I finally put together my block 2 clone with the FSP ris2 but then I picked up the non-fsp dd ris 2. My questions is which rail do you guys think is better for the block 2 and why? |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 4:26:34 PM EDT
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For those that asked I fired another 200 today with the h3, suppressed and not suppressed. No hiccups.
tried the h2 and ran fine but the h3 was smoother so it's staying. |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 5:12:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#44]
Ordered a new Colt ambi-safety today to replace the KAC ambi that's in the lower now. I guess the Colt would be correct, or at least more correct than the KAC, right? The chart on page one doesn't mention anything about selectors.
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Posted: 5/16/2018 5:19:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
Ordered a new Colt ambi-safety today to replace the KAC ambi that's in the lower now. I guess the Colt would be correct, or at least more correct than the KAC, right? The chart on page one doesn't mention anything about selectors. |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 5:24:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
Both are. From where? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
Originally Posted By 871JZ:
Ordered a new Colt ambi-safety today to replace the KAC ambi that's in the lower now. I guess the Colt would be correct, or at least more correct than the KAC, right? The chart on page one doesn't mention anything about selectors.
And I ordered it from ARFCOM's favorite vendor, AU.
https://www.armsunlimited.com/Colt-Semi-Auto-Ambidextrous-Safety-Selector-Lever-p/sp400831.htm And don't forget they've also got 14.5" SOCOM barrels in stock @ $240 with free shipping. @aaron580 ETA: Did you get the tracking number I sent you earlier? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2018 5:29:04 PM EDT
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I should have a rear CQD sling plate in the mail tomorrow but Im unsure of if it will go on this block II or not. Were they installed on many of these as standard issue sopmod?
I finally got a 99051 on here instead of the mbus pro and would like to swap my usmc micro for a standard 600m sight but since usmc sights are banned from the EE, I cannot sell it to off set the cost at the moment. Aside from that, all that is left is to swap the birdcage for SF3P and someday add an optic which would likely be 4x acog 
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Posted: 5/16/2018 5:33:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ckopp636:
I should have a rear CQD sling plate in the mail tomorrow but Im unsure of if it will go on this block II or not. Were they installed on many of these as standard issue sopmod? https://i.imgur.com/cAWF0Iv.jpg I finally got a 99051 on here instead of the mbus pro and would like to swap my usmc micro for a standard 600m sight but since usmc sights are banned from the EE, I cannot sell it to off set the cost at the moment. Aside from that, all that is left is to swap the birdcage for SF3P and someday add an optic which would likely be 4x acog https://i.imgur.com/VE2tR4R.jpg Congrats on the new 99051. And I know we're not supposed to sell the USMC rear sights in the EE, but I see them posted all the time. I've seen some guys get warned/ads closed over it and some not. Why not just stick with the micro rear? I actually prefer it to the full size 600. |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 5:56:02 PM EDT
[#49]
Speaking of CQD sling points...
Mine just arrived and were promptly installed. Blue pen makes it clone correct, right? |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 6:00:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lerch641:
Speaking of CQD sling points... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Black_Hawk_169/20180516_164825_zpsszuwc8cw.jpg Mine just arrived and were promptly installed. Blue pen makes it clone correct, right? ETA: Just ordered a set of CQD mounts from Thoroughbred Armament. Hopefully they ship as fast as I've been told they do. |
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