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Posted: 10/1/2014 7:44:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/1/2014 2:30:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ShiftSix]
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Ok, looking for some advice to finish this Recce project I started.
I have been (impatiently) waiting for Mega to release their Megalithic upper in a quad rail variant vs the keymod one thats been out a few months now... If I choose to stop waiting and just build something with parts available, what would you choose to finish my build? Receiver, Barrel, and Rail I would like to keep around the $1000 neighborhood. Here's what I have so far... Mega Arms billet lower. Giessele SD-E trigger and LaRue Tactical's UDE furniture kit (CTR, MOE grip, FUG, with index clips) Pic. 
Part of me wants to wait for the Megalithic upper, Part of me wants to finish this Recce build now vs waiting, and the last part of me is thinking Fuck it, and wants to place an order for a 556 OBR. 
What would you build? or do in my shoes? Edit: This is the upper i've been waiting on, and wanted to throw a Lilja barrel in it... But im unsure when or if it'll come out for the masses to purchase. 
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KY, USA
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Posted: 10/1/2014 3:11:11 PM EDT
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I would just build an upper. too many nice options out there for me to sit and wait on something that may or may not be released.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 3:21:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RecoilSensitive:
I would just build an upper. too many nice options out there for me to sit and wait on something that may or may not be released. What I am thinking... Question then is. What rail? I like the DD M4A1 RIS-II... I like their Dark earth color (not sure how it would look with my UDE furniture) and im wondering about its weight. I like Geissele's SMR selection too... I like the PRI tube seen on the MK12's too. Like the way their riser looks but really do not want to use the ARMS scope mounts that accompany that setup. Just looking for and open to ideas. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 3:46:40 PM EDT
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1-4 Recce Mode
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/1/2014 3:57:35 PM EDT
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nice. I think that's the first time I've seen a sling attached like that on the front. Both the cord around it and then the attachment on the sling itself. What kind is that?
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Posted: 10/1/2014 4:19:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Outrider]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix:
What I am thinking... Question then is. What rail? I like the DD M4A1 RIS-II... I like their Dark earth color (not sure how it would look with my UDE furniture) and im wondering about its weight. I like Geissele's SMR selection too... I like the PRI tube seen on the MK12's too. Like the way their riser looks but really do not want to use the ARMS scope mounts that accompany that setup. Just looking for and open to ideas. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix:
Originally Posted By RecoilSensitive:
I would just build an upper. too many nice options out there for me to sit and wait on something that may or may not be released. What I am thinking... Question then is. What rail? I like the DD M4A1 RIS-II... I like their Dark earth color (not sure how it would look with my UDE furniture) and im wondering about its weight. I like Geissele's SMR selection too... I like the PRI tube seen on the MK12's too. Like the way their riser looks but really do not want to use the ARMS scope mounts that accompany that setup. Just looking for and open to ideas. You are in my favorite part of the building phase, the dreaming/conceptual side. I'd also agree to go on with the build. Monolithic platforms are nice but you don't have the flexibility to change items out. Let's face it, new rails and forearms debut all the time and I'm constantly swapping them out. What are you looking for in a handguard? Quad rail/tube? I think the PRI would look solid on a recce/Holland type build. LaRue and Nightforce also have low mount rings so you wouldn't have to stick with ARMS. I love the Geissele rail design and barrel nut but they do not fit my hands well. As far as barrels, I'm a big fan of the BCM SS410 16" midlength. There's a used one in the EE that you may be able to save on. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 4:31:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jukeboxx13]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA: nice. I think that's the first time I've seen a sling attached like that on the front. Both the cord around it and then the attachment on the sling itself. What kind is that? Easily adjustable, and minimal. I love it for a two point. ETA: It's paracord btw |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 4:50:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
You are in my favorite part of the building phase, the dreaming/conceptual side. I'd also agree to go on with the build. Monolithic platforms are nice but you don't have the flexibility to change items out. Let's face it, new rails and forearms debut all the time and I'm constantly swapping them out. What are you looking for in a handguard? Quad rail/tube? I think the PRI would look solid on a recce/Holland type build. LaRue and Nightforce also have low mount rings so you wouldn't have to stick with ARMS. I love the Geissele rail design and barrel nut but they do not fit my hands well. As far as barrels, I'm a big fan of the BCM SS410 16" midlength. There's a used one in the EE that you may be able to save on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By ShiftSix:
Originally Posted By RecoilSensitive:
I would just build an upper. too many nice options out there for me to sit and wait on something that may or may not be released. What I am thinking... Question then is. What rail? I like the DD M4A1 RIS-II... I like their Dark earth color (not sure how it would look with my UDE furniture) and im wondering about its weight. I like Geissele's SMR selection too... I like the PRI tube seen on the MK12's too. Like the way their riser looks but really do not want to use the ARMS scope mounts that accompany that setup. Just looking for and open to ideas. You are in my favorite part of the building phase, the dreaming/conceptual side. I'd also agree to go on with the build. Monolithic platforms are nice but you don't have the flexibility to change items out. Let's face it, new rails and forearms debut all the time and I'm constantly swapping them out. What are you looking for in a handguard? Quad rail/tube? I think the PRI would look solid on a recce/Holland type build. LaRue and Nightforce also have low mount rings so you wouldn't have to stick with ARMS. I love the Geissele rail design and barrel nut but they do not fit my hands well. As far as barrels, I'm a big fan of the BCM SS410 16" midlength. There's a used one in the EE that you may be able to save on. Agreed. It is fun, and im really not sure. In the end I just want to balance it being rock solid, and weight in a rail thats 12-13" in length. I am not completely opposed to keymod, but due to already buying stuff for a regular rail I would rather just stick with a quad rail so I dont have to add adapters or rail sections to make it work. This is basically where im at... We'll see I suppose. For those that have the DD M4A1 RIS II... how does it balance once you add a SS Match barrel? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/1/2014 5:00:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix:
Agreed. It is fun, and im really not sure. In the end I just want to balance it being rock solid, and weight in a rail thats 12-13" in length. I am not completely opposed to keymod, but due to already buying stuff for a regular rail I would rather just stick with a quad rail so I dont have to add adapters or rail sections to make it work. This is basically where im at... We'll see I suppose. For those that have the DD M4A1 RIS II... how does it balance once you add a SS Match barrel? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix:
Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By ShiftSix:
Originally Posted By RecoilSensitive:
I would just build an upper. too many nice options out there for me to sit and wait on something that may or may not be released. What I am thinking... Question then is. What rail? I like the DD M4A1 RIS-II... I like their Dark earth color (not sure how it would look with my UDE furniture) and im wondering about its weight. I like Geissele's SMR selection too... I like the PRI tube seen on the MK12's too. Like the way their riser looks but really do not want to use the ARMS scope mounts that accompany that setup. Just looking for and open to ideas. You are in my favorite part of the building phase, the dreaming/conceptual side. I'd also agree to go on with the build. Monolithic platforms are nice but you don't have the flexibility to change items out. Let's face it, new rails and forearms debut all the time and I'm constantly swapping them out. What are you looking for in a handguard? Quad rail/tube? I think the PRI would look solid on a recce/Holland type build. LaRue and Nightforce also have low mount rings so you wouldn't have to stick with ARMS. I love the Geissele rail design and barrel nut but they do not fit my hands well. As far as barrels, I'm a big fan of the BCM SS410 16" midlength. There's a used one in the EE that you may be able to save on. Agreed. It is fun, and im really not sure. In the end I just want to balance it being rock solid, and weight in a rail thats 12-13" in length. I am not completely opposed to keymod, but due to already buying stuff for a regular rail I would rather just stick with a quad rail so I dont have to add adapters or rail sections to make it work. This is basically where im at... We'll see I suppose. For those that have the DD M4A1 RIS II... how does it balance once you add a SS Match barrel? I have two RIS II equipped ARs, both sporting Noveske barrels(14.5 and 13.7) I like them, they balance well but with a CQBSS and suppressor it can get heavy when carried for extended periods. Personally, I love the look of the PRI tubes or the older KAC FF tubes for a RECCE build, If I were building one I'd go for that authentic mil clone look over a more modern version. 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/1/2014 10:43:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Proctor sling. Easily adjustable, and minimal. I love it for a two point. ETA: It's paracord btw Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jukeboxx13:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
nice. I think that's the first time I've seen a sling attached like that on the front. Both the cord around it and then the attachment on the sling itself. What kind is that? Easily adjustable, and minimal. I love it for a two point. ETA: It's paracord btw I figured that about the paracord. Proctor eh? Hmmmmm... |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 8:48:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix:
For those that have the DD M4A1 RIS II... how does it balance once you add a SS Match barrel? It's a lil front heavy w/ the bipod and adaptor, but not too bad... I plan on mostly supported shooting anyways. I'll find out in a lil over a week how she'll feel with about 25 more ounces of scope/mount attached 
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Posted: 10/2/2014 4:58:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1:
It's a lil front heavy w/ the bipod and adaptor, but not too bad... I plan on mostly supported shooting anyways. I'll find out in a lil over a week how she'll feel with about 25 more ounces of scope/mount attached
<a href="http://s972.photobucket.com/user/slowkota1/media/IMG_0468_zps40d4b952.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae202/slowkota1/IMG_0468_zps40d4b952.jpg</a> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1:
Originally Posted By ShiftSix:
For those that have the DD M4A1 RIS II... how does it balance once you add a SS Match barrel? It's a lil front heavy w/ the bipod and adaptor, but not too bad... I plan on mostly supported shooting anyways. I'll find out in a lil over a week how she'll feel with about 25 more ounces of scope/mount attached
<a href="http://s972.photobucket.com/user/slowkota1/media/IMG_0468_zps40d4b952.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae202/slowkota1/IMG_0468_zps40d4b952.jpg</a> Thats sexy as fuck. |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 8:15:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix:
Ok, looking for some advice to finish this Recce project I started. I have been (impatiently) waiting for Mega to release their Megalithic upper in a quad rail variant vs the keymod one thats been out a few months now... If I choose to stop waiting and just build something with parts available, what would you choose to finish my build? Receiver, Barrel, and Rail I would like to keep around the $1000 neighborhood. Here's what I have so far... Mega Arms billet lower. Giessele SD-E trigger and LaRue Tactical's UDE furniture kit (CTR, MOE grip, FUG, with index clips) Pic. <a href="http://s58.photobucket.com/user/lltek2002/media/29228794-C5B8-45EF-B1E5-BFD24E4DA957_zpslnpsxflw.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/lltek2002/29228794-C5B8-45EF-B1E5-BFD24E4DA957_zpslnpsxflw.jpg</a> Part of me wants to wait for the Megalithic upper, Part of me wants to finish this Recce build now vs waiting, and the last part of me is thinking Fuck it, and wants to place an order for a 556 OBR.
What would you build? or do in my shoes? Edit: This is the upper i've been waiting on, and wanted to throw a Lilja barrel in it... But im unsure when or if it'll come out for the masses to purchase. <a href="http://s58.photobucket.com/user/lltek2002/media/Megalithic-build01-1500-B3_zps33760ca8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/lltek2002/Megalithic-build01-1500-B3_zps33760ca8.jpg</a> Go for the Lilja barrel for sure. I too am not a fan of the keymod for my personal rifle. Looks great on the rifles here, I just prefer something else. If mega won't give you a time frame, just build it up with a Daniel Defense. |
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Posted: 10/2/2014 10:06:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
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Posted: 10/3/2014 10:53:42 AM EDT
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Need some factory match ammo suggestions for my "Recce"... Looking to order about 6 or 7 different kinds, and see which one my rifle likes best (To hold me over until I start handloading my own of course
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Right now the only ones I know I want to try are the Black Hills 77gr OTM, 75gr Hornady SUPERFORMANCE Match, and the 69gr Lapua scenar... That leaves me needing 3 or 4 other options Barrel is a Lilja M4 16" 1/8 twist |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/3/2014 2:26:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1:
Need some factory match ammo suggestions for my "Recce"... Looking to order about 6 or 7 different kinds, and see which one my rifle likes best (To hold me over until I start handloading my own of course )
Right now the only ones I know I want to try are the Black Hills 77gr OTM, 75gr Hornady SUPERFORMANCE Match, and the 69gr Lapua scenar... That leaves me needing 3 or 4 other options Barrel is a Lilja M4 16" 1/8 twist I believe Hornady Super performance match is meant for 20" barrels. You may get popped primers in a shorter barrel length. 75 grain Hornady Match has grouped well in my rifle. You could also try the PRVI match stuff as it's cheap and good quality. I have yet to run it in my Recon rifle. You could also try lighter grain Black hills stuff. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 3:09:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1:
Need some factory match ammo suggestions for my "Recce"... Looking to order about 6 or 7 different kinds, and see which one my rifle likes best (To hold me over until I start handloading my own of course )
Right now the only ones I know I want to try are the Black Hills 77gr OTM, 75gr Hornady SUPERFORMANCE Match, and the 69gr Lapua scenar... That leaves me needing 3 or 4 other options Barrel is a Lilja M4 16" 1/8 twist Try Federal Gold Medal Match 77 gr., mine really like that stuff. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 3:22:08 PM EDT
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I don't know how I forgot to list the trusted FGMM!
Do they have .223 and 5.56 NATO FGMM... Like how they have .308 and 7.62x51 NATO FGMM? Just wondering, I'd buy a box of both anyways. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 10/3/2014 4:26:34 PM EDT
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I haven't seen any 5.56 FGMM, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I shoot the .223.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:23:49 PM EDT
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Well, here she is for the time being.
 Anyone have a low-power variable in an LT-104 that I can demo on here? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:39:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Well, here she is for the time being. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/pegUDd" target="_blank">https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15246423878_a5e1f2e33f_h.jpg</a> Anyone have a low-power variable in an LT-104 that I can demo on here? son of a…. damn that's nice! I got a mk8 in a 104 you can demo if you're ever in my area. Now I NEED to find a MRE 
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Posted: 10/3/2014 10:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: Well, here she is for the time being. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15246423878_a5e1f2e33f_h.jpg Anyone have a low-power variable in an LT-104 that I can demo on here? Awesome. Needs paint and an NT4. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 10/3/2014 10:37:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: secretwheelman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah: Awesome. Needs paint and an NT4. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Well, here she is for the time being. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15246423878_a5e1f2e33f_h.jpg Anyone have a low-power variable in an LT-104 that I can demo on here? Awesome. Needs paint and an NT4. I put a teardrop FA on there to keep you off my back.  I'd like a QDSS, but a SOCOM will work on 3 other rifles. Of course, the SF can will have to wait until I can get my hands on an AEM5. And, It doesn't show well in pics but the MRE has a sweet purple to it. I almost don't want to cover it..... almost. Originally Posted By G_MAN: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Well, here she is for the time being. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/pegUDd" target="_blank">https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15246423878_a5e1f2e33f_h.jpg</a> Anyone have a low-power variable in an LT-104 that I can demo on here? son of a…. damn that's nice! I got a mk8 in a 104 you can demo if you're ever in my area. Now I NEED to find a MRE |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 11:06:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: I put a teardrop FA on there to keep you off my back. I'd like a QDSS, but a SOCOM will work on 3 other rifles. Of course, the SF can will have to wait until I can get my hands on an AEM5. And, It doesn't show well in pics but the MRE has a sweet purple to it. I almost don't want to cover it..... almost. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Well, here she is for the time being. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15246423878_a5e1f2e33f_h.jpg Anyone have a low-power variable in an LT-104 that I can demo on here? Awesome. Needs paint and an NT4. I put a teardrop FA on there to keep you off my back. I'd like a QDSS, but a SOCOM will work on 3 other rifles. Of course, the SF can will have to wait until I can get my hands on an AEM5. And, It doesn't show well in pics but the MRE has a sweet purple to it. I almost don't want to cover it..... almost. You didn't go teardrop FA for me. And yeah, that purp is pretty cool. My FF RAS had a similar anodizing. You could start by painting some KAC rail panels and the rest of the rifle; would probably look pretty cool. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2014 12:01:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: secretwheelman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah: You didn't go teardrop FA for me. And yeah, that purp is pretty cool. My FF RAS had a similar anodizing. You could start by painting some KAC rail panels and the rest of the rifle; would probably look pretty cool. You know I'll end up painting the whole rifle, I just wanna enjoy the purple for a while longer. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 9:12:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Well, here she is for the time being. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/pegUDd" target="_blank">https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15246423878_a5e1f2e33f_h.jpg</a> Anyone have a low-power variable in an LT-104 that I can demo on here? looks good! but you gotta get the right CAR stock on there.. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2014 9:13:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattNificent: looks good! but you gotta get the right CAR stock on there.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattNificent: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Well, here she is for the time being. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/pegUDd" target="_blank">https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15246423878_a5e1f2e33f_h.jpg</a> Anyone have a low-power variable in an LT-104 that I can demo on here? looks good! but you gotta get the right CAR stock on there.. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2014 9:38:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Not at the price they're currently going for. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By MattNificent:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Well, here she is for the time being. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/pegUDd" target="_blank">https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15246423878_a5e1f2e33f_h.jpg</a> Anyone have a low-power variable in an LT-104 that I can demo on here? looks good! but you gotta get the right CAR stock on there.. MA parts has a clone of the colt.. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2014 10:15:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: secretwheelman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattNificent: MA parts has a clone of the colt.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattNificent: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By MattNificent: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Well, here she is for the time being. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/pegUDd" target="_blank">https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15246423878_a5e1f2e33f_h.jpg</a> Anyone have a low-power variable in an LT-104 that I can demo on here? looks good! but you gotta get the right CAR stock on there.. MA parts has a clone of the colt.. Unless of course you have a CAR you wanna get rid of on the cheap.  |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2014 4:22:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By patriot_man:
I believe Hornady Super performance match is meant for 20" barrels. You may get popped primers in a shorter barrel length. 75 grain Hornady Match has grouped well in my rifle. You could also try the PRVI match stuff as it's cheap and good quality. I have yet to run it in my Recon rifle. You could also try lighter grain Black hills stuff. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By slowkota1:
Need some factory match ammo suggestions for my "Recce"... Looking to order about 6 or 7 different kinds, and see which one my rifle likes best (To hold me over until I start handloading my own of course )
Right now the only ones I know I want to try are the Black Hills 77gr OTM, 75gr Hornady SUPERFORMANCE Match, and the 69gr Lapua scenar... That leaves me needing 3 or 4 other options Barrel is a Lilja M4 16" 1/8 twist I believe Hornady Super performance match is meant for 20" barrels. You may get popped primers in a shorter barrel length. 75 grain Hornady Match has grouped well in my rifle. You could also try the PRVI match stuff as it's cheap and good quality. I have yet to run it in my Recon rifle. You could also try lighter grain Black hills stuff. Well that's a new one on me. Where did you hear such a thing and how would that even happen? I'm not sure I understand that. Secretwheelman, it's beautiful. Personally, I'd leave it black. 
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Posted: 10/4/2014 4:26:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1:
Need some factory match ammo suggestions for my "Recce"... Looking to order about 6 or 7 different kinds, and see which one my rifle likes best (To hold me over until I start handloading my own of course )
Right now the only ones I know I want to try are the Black Hills 77gr OTM, 75gr Hornady SUPERFORMANCE Match, and the 69gr Lapua scenar... That leaves me needing 3 or 4 other options Barrel is a Lilja M4 16" 1/8 twist every barrel is prejudiced. Not just each type, but each individual barrel. It's up to you to figure out what works in yours. Supposedly the 69's are super great, but for some reason my recce really doesn't like them. But it likes the 52's, 68's, 75's and 77's. And doesn't do too bad with m193 and m855. Those all shoot better than the 69 red box black hills I've shot through it. It's a great barrel, but that's it's weakness. Cryptonite69. 
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AL, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2014 5:15:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA: Well that's a new one on me. Where did you hear such a thing and how would that even happen? I'm not sure I understand that. Secretwheelman, it's beautiful. Personally, I'd leave it black. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA: Originally Posted By patriot_man: Originally Posted By slowkota1: Need some factory match ammo suggestions for my "Recce"... Looking to order about 6 or 7 different kinds, and see which one my rifle likes best (To hold me over until I start handloading my own of course ) Right now the only ones I know I want to try are the Black Hills 77gr OTM, 75gr Hornady SUPERFORMANCE Match, and the 69gr Lapua scenar... That leaves me needing 3 or 4 other options Barrel is a Lilja M4 16" 1/8 twist I believe Hornady Super performance match is meant for 20" barrels. You may get popped primers in a shorter barrel length. 75 grain Hornady Match has grouped well in my rifle. You could also try the PRVI match stuff as it's cheap and good quality. I have yet to run it in my Recon rifle. You could also try lighter grain Black hills stuff. Well that's a new one on me. Where did you hear such a thing and how would that even happen? I'm not sure I understand that. Secretwheelman, it's beautiful. Personally, I'd leave it black. And this is straight from the source on Super performance. "It is recommended that to get the best functioning with Superformance ammunition in gas operated/gas piston semi-automatic or select fire guns, rifle length gas systems with 20 inch or longer barrel lengths are best for reliable firing and extraction. Any other configuration, particularly shorter barrels/gas systems are best served with the installation of an adjustable gas system, ESPECIALLY if a suppressor is to be installed." |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2014 9:08:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Thank you, sir. And this is straight from the source on Super performance. "It is recommended that to get the best functioning with Superformance ammunition in gas operated/gas piston semi-automatic or select fire guns, rifle length gas systems with 20 inch or longer barrel lengths are best for reliable firing and extraction. Any other configuration, particularly shorter barrels/gas systems are best served with the installation of an adjustable gas system, ESPECIALLY if a suppressor is to be installed." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By slowkota1:
Need some factory match ammo suggestions for my "Recce"... Looking to order about 6 or 7 different kinds, and see which one my rifle likes best (To hold me over until I start handloading my own of course )
Right now the only ones I know I want to try are the Black Hills 77gr OTM, 75gr Hornady SUPERFORMANCE Match, and the 69gr Lapua scenar... That leaves me needing 3 or 4 other options Barrel is a Lilja M4 16" 1/8 twist I believe Hornady Super performance match is meant for 20" barrels. You may get popped primers in a shorter barrel length. 75 grain Hornady Match has grouped well in my rifle. You could also try the PRVI match stuff as it's cheap and good quality. I have yet to run it in my Recon rifle. You could also try lighter grain Black hills stuff. Well that's a new one on me. Where did you hear such a thing and how would that even happen? I'm not sure I understand that. Secretwheelman, it's beautiful. Personally, I'd leave it black. And this is straight from the source on Super performance. "It is recommended that to get the best functioning with Superformance ammunition in gas operated/gas piston semi-automatic or select fire guns, rifle length gas systems with 20 inch or longer barrel lengths are best for reliable firing and extraction. Any other configuration, particularly shorter barrels/gas systems are best served with the installation of an adjustable gas system, ESPECIALLY if a suppressor is to be installed." Thanks secretwheelman for finding that. It may be an even bigger problem on the Lilja since the gas port is so large. |
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Posted: 10/4/2014 9:20:31 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By patriot_man: Thanks secretwheelman for finding that. It may be an even bigger problem on the Lilja since the gas port is so large. No problem. BTW: Any of the mk262 clones available should suit you well. CBC, IMI, and BH, are all pretty similar. However, I do wish I could still get the red box Hornady TAP 75gr BTHP's locally. I always had good results with 'em. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 6:13:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/5/2014 6:25:46 PM EDT
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Model 1 Sales has a close replica of the CAR...
http://www.model1sales.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=466 Fastfoot |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 6:49:12 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
No problem. BTW: Any of the mk262 clones available should suit you well. CBC, IMI, and BH, are all pretty similar. However, I do wish I could still get the red box Hornady TAP 75gr BTHP's locally. I always had good results with 'em. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Thanks secretwheelman for finding that. It may be an even bigger problem on the Lilja since the gas port is so large. No problem. BTW: Any of the mk262 clones available should suit you well. CBC, IMI, and BH, are all pretty similar. However, I do wish I could still get the red box Hornady TAP 75gr BTHP's locally. I always had good results with 'em. Nice stick! |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 7:07:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDamn, I forgot about that 15-22. That's a mean duo you got there. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 10:10:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:00:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Damn, I forgot about that 15-22. That's a mean duo you got there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Damn, I forgot about that 15-22. That's a mean duo you got there.
I agree. And see, doesn't the receiver just look right black, mixed in with the painted stuff? I'm not sure why. It just does. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:13:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA: I agree. And see, doesn't the receiver just look right black, mixed in with the painted stuff? I'm not sure why. It just does. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Damn, I forgot about that 15-22. That's a mean duo you got there. I agree. And see, doesn't the receiver just look right black, mixed in with the painted stuff? I'm not sure why. It just does. More so in person. Even more so when I get some of that paint to rub off from use. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:19:46 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
More so in person. Even more so when I get some of that paint to rub off from use.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Damn, I forgot about that 15-22. That's a mean duo you got there.
I agree. And see, doesn't the receiver just look right black, mixed in with the painted stuff? I'm not sure why. It just does. More so in person. Even more so when I get some of that paint to rub off from use.
I can see why you're such a proponent of painting. They look frickin great. I'm jelly of that .22 also. Although i'd rather have a shorter mag. Do they even make them? Anyways.... I saw the post in the mod 1 and it looked like a great day of shooting. Even if it was frustrating. I'm sure it was the nut behind the trigger. Go adjust that. JK. The downside is you wont want to shoot your Holland because you're too busy trying to get the skinny on the mod 1. Such dilemmas. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:28:51 AM EDT
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Yeah I'll never quite understand the logic behind the M&P mag; it's not even a full 30 at that length! The gun functions exactly like an AR, why not make the mags the same fucking length?! I'll sacrifice a few extra rounds for a proper-length mag. But yes, they do make straight shorties, but guess what? They're shorter than the old USGI 20rd mags! Really feel like they dropped the fucking ball on those details, but otherwise, they're awesome guns.
Definitely not expecting big issues out of the Mod1; the Holland WILL see some rounds through it ASAP.
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Posted: 10/7/2014 1:44:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHATE. so much hate. nice rail mod and trainer.
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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:29:08 PM EDT
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Very nice Utah! That has to be the nicest 15/22 I've ever seen. Just can't say enough about that Mod1. WOW.
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Posted: 10/8/2014 11:12:06 PM EDT
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Thanks y'all!
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Posted: 10/11/2014 7:51:22 PM EDT
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Update to the Recon rifle. Primary Arms 450 lumen weapon light. This thing is brighter than the sun.... And could double as a hammer. May get the tailcap pressure switch, haven't decided yet.
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Now all I'm missing are BUIS, a PRI gas buster and AAC can (stamp pending) |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 10:07:44 PM EDT
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In the spirit of The Walking Dead starting tonight...I thought this picture fits. Have a good night everyone.
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Posted: 10/13/2014 1:22:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWell done!    |
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