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Posted: 7/14/2014 6:42:48 PM EDT
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Any lower can be used. You won't find one sold as a pistol...stripped lowers are all sold as "other". Buy the one you like, build it into an AR pistol. You can go Pistol->SBR->Pistol, but you can't go SBR->Pistol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lonewolf stripped lower.. Or one that's just sold as a pistol with no tube so I can add my own. Any lower can be used. You won't find one sold as a pistol...stripped lowers are all sold as "other". Buy the one you like, build it into an AR pistol. You can go Pistol->SBR->Pistol, but you can't go SBR->Pistol. So just buy a stripped lower from lone wolf then build up? I can't buy a complete lower because it's already registered as a rifle correct? |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 6:46:22 PM EDT
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What is your overall length with the stock extended? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've got an Aimpoint Pro on my 9mm AR, went with it because of the battery life since it's my new bedside gun with the 45 Octane on it and it stays on all the time. http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1424/13602099/24383929/409634832.jpg What barrel length and rail combo is that again? It's a 4.5" Adco barrel and a 9" Spikes BAR2 rail I'll have to measure it when I get it all put back together, but I think it is around 26-27". The "stock" is a Sig pistol brace though, so it is a fixed length. |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 6:50:24 PM EDT
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So just buy a stripped lower from lone wolf then build up? I can't buy a complete lower because it's already registered as a rifle correct? Lower receivers should transfer as "other". It's not a rifle without a barrel. |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 7:05:54 PM EDT
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Lower receivers should transfer as "other". It's not a rifle without a barrel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So just buy a stripped lower from lone wolf then build up? I can't buy a complete lower because it's already registered as a rifle correct? Lower receivers should transfer as "other". It's not a rifle without a barrel. Even complete lowers? |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 7:15:27 PM EDT
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Lower receivers should transfer as "other". It's not a rifle without a barrel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So just buy a stripped lower from lone wolf then build up? I can't buy a complete lower because it's already registered as a rifle correct? Lower receivers should transfer as "other". It's not a rifle without a barrel. Cant build a pistol if it comes with a stock if understand correctly. I knew who Lonewolf was which is why I used a question mark. |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 7:21:20 PM EDT
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Even complete lowers? Even complete lowers. Go read the 4473, question 18 and the instructions that go with it. If you are still concerned, go look up the GCA definition of "rifle" and "handgun". |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 7:30:54 PM EDT
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Even complete lowers. Go read the 4473, question 18 and the instructions that go with it. If you are still concerned, go look up the GCA definition of "rifle" and "handgun". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Even complete lowers? Even complete lowers. Go read the 4473, question 18 and the instructions that go with it. If you are still concerned, go look up the GCA definition of "rifle" and "handgun". Thanks for helping me out. Sometimes, the class 3 stuff is easier to deal with than this. |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 7:31:14 PM EDT
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Even complete lowers. Go read the 4473, question 18 and the instructions that go with it. If you are still concerned, go look up the GCA definition of "rifle" and "handgun". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Even complete lowers? Even complete lowers. Go read the 4473, question 18 and the instructions that go with it. If you are still concerned, go look up the GCA definition of "rifle" and "handgun". It is most definitely a other until it is built but are you sure you can build a complete lower into a pistol. |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 7:39:31 PM EDT
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It is most definitely a other until it is built but are you sure you can build a complete lower into a pistol. I'm not sure how you can ask that question the way you phrased it. 
If it's "most definitely" an other, then come up with one legal reason you can't build it into a pistol. It's goes from other to pistol...never hits rifle configuration without an upper. We won't even get into the legal way to turn a rifle into a pistol...but it's out there. 
ETA: you might also want to get familiar with ATF ruling 2011-4 |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 7:43:54 PM EDT
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I'm not sure how you can ask that question the way you phrased it.
If it's "most definitely" an other, then come up with one legal reason you can't build it into a pistol. It's goes from other to pistol...never hits rifle configuration without an upper. We won't even get into the legal way to turn a rifle into a pistol...but it's out there.
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It is most definitely a other until it is built but are you sure you can build a complete lower into a pistol. I'm not sure how you can ask that question the way you phrased it.
If it's "most definitely" an other, then come up with one legal reason you can't build it into a pistol. It's goes from other to pistol...never hits rifle configuration without an upper. We won't even get into the legal way to turn a rifle into a pistol...but it's out there.
ETA: you might also want to get familiar with ATF ruling 2011-4 My head hurts... 
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Posted: 7/14/2014 8:00:50 PM EDT
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I'm not sure how you can ask that question the way you phrased it.
If it's "most definitely" an other, then come up with one legal reason you can't build it into a pistol. It's goes from other to pistol...never hits rifle configuration without an upper. We won't even get into the legal way to turn a rifle into a pistol...but it's out there.
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It is most definitely a other until it is built but are you sure you can build a complete lower into a pistol. I'm not sure how you can ask that question the way you phrased it.
If it's "most definitely" an other, then come up with one legal reason you can't build it into a pistol. It's goes from other to pistol...never hits rifle configuration without an upper. We won't even get into the legal way to turn a rifle into a pistol...but it's out there.
ETA: you might also want to get familiar with ATF ruling 2011-4 This is where I always get confused they start with The
inclusion of the rifle stock in the package brought the Contender pistol and carbine kit within the "intended to be fired from the shoulder" language in the definition of rifle at 26 U.S.C. 5845(c). Apparently I am mistaken. I thought it was settled on here that it had to be a stripped or stockless lower to be pistol. |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 8:16:38 PM EDT
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The package had barrels to be concerned with...no way to make a complete lower into a rifle without that pesky barrel.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 3:21:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll have to measure it when I get it all put back together, but I think it is around 26-27". The "stock" is a Sig pistol brace though, so it is a fixed length. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've got an Aimpoint Pro on my 9mm AR, went with it because of the battery life since it's my new bedside gun with the 45 Octane on it and it stays on all the time. http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1424/13602099/24383929/409634832.jpg What barrel length and rail combo is that again? It's a 4.5" Adco barrel and a 9" Spikes BAR2 rail I'll have to measure it when I get it all put back together, but I think it is around 26-27". The "stock" is a Sig pistol brace though, so it is a fixed length. |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 5:46:09 PM EDT
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My Colt lower with a 10.5" RRA upper, nice and simple.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 6:38:37 PM EDT
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If you could just let me know the measurement from the rear of the receiver to the end of the barrel, that would work. I can extrapolate the rest... The length of the complete upper receiver from the end of the CH to the end of the barrel is 11.25" and with the hand guard on it's 16.5." With the Octane 45 on it's 19.25" and the overall length of the upper is the same as it would be with a 12.5" barrel. |
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Posted: 8/1/2014 9:35:24 AM EDT
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My contribution ,9mm DOE
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Posted: 8/1/2014 11:25:13 PM EDT
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This is where I always get confused they start with Quote HistoryQuoted:
This is where I always get confused they start with The
inclusion of the rifle stock in the package brought the Contender pistol and carbine kit within the "intended to be fired from the shoulder" language in the definition of rifle at 26 U.S.C. 5845(c). The Contender pistol/carbine kit is a complete firearm. A complete lower is just a lower. ETA: Pic thread 
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Posted: 8/31/2014 12:24:50 PM EDT
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My 9mm. I really should look into a new camera.
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