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Link Posted: 1/31/2014 12:28:12 PM EDT
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Form 1 approved today

Submitted on : 10/29/13
Approved on : 1/31/14
94 days

I have Form 4 submitted on 11/4 that should be right behind this one.

Nick
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 1:08:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Form 4 approved today



Submitted 10/28

Approved 1/31
Link Posted: 1/31/2014 1:18:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Form 1 approved today
Submitted 10/29
#2014160XX


ETA:  What's the over/under for how long before someone gets arrested with these photo copied stamps?  The upside is I can put them in my dropbox account and access them with my phone.  
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 11:05:59 AM EDT
[#4]
Anyone got a line on the refunds.
Mine was disapproved on 01/13.
I haven't heard anything back about a refund.
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 11:13:02 AM EDT
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I'm waiting on mine from 1/11.

 
No word yet.
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 11:31:27 AM EDT
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When I cancelled one of my eForms, this is response I got:





"Good morning – your request has been forwarded to the NFA Branch for action.  A refund will be issued in conjunction with the cancellation and should be processed within 10 days of the final action."




So I would say if you haven't heard anything by now, you might want to try to inquire about it.



Link Posted: 2/1/2014 1:36:09 PM EDT
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Check your credit card statement (online if you can). I had a couple form 1's that I fudged up (somehow forgot to put my city in box 3b) get disapproved and the refund to my cc was pretty quick. I want to say within a few days.

Somehow they waited till right at the 90 day mark to figure out they were going to disapprove

I triple checked the new form 1's I submitted last night and today. Hope I didn't fark it up again.
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 2:43:11 PM EDT
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My refund took closer to 3 weeks to hit my CC
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 2:01:11 AM EDT
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That's probably the first time an examiner got their eyes on it.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:31:21 AM EDT
[#10]
just submitted another form1 the site was super slow last night but this morning it was fast again, maybe they fixed it while I was asleep
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 12:24:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Liberty Mystic - Efiled 12/17/2013
Approved - ???

SWR Warlock II - Efiled 1/25/2014
Approved - ???

Silencerco Sparrow SS - waiting on form 3 to dealer. Maybe a week.
Efiled - ???
Approved - ???

Sh1t is addictive as hell.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 4:56:29 PM EDT
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If they get disapproved are they letting people know why they were disapproved?????
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 7:32:22 PM EDT
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Yes. I know my buddy got a 2 sentence explanation when his was denied.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 9:30:49 PM EDT
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Yes. I know my buddy got a 2 sentence explanation when his was denied.

same here.
Told me what to do to fix it in big red letters.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:02:29 PM EDT
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Just out of curiosity being I have a few in the system, were they kicked back due to trust issues or the F1 itself?
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:27:27 PM EDT
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Didn't include part of the trust (or maybe examiner couldn't find it since he split it into multiple parts)

Also had wrong model number of lower receiver.
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 8:22:10 AM EDT
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Let's see some November approvals!!!
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 9:34:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/3/2014 9:43:48 AM EDT
[#19]
end of Nov. and 1st part of Dec. please
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 11:49:00 AM EDT
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How about we start with Nov 4?  I have two on that date.
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 12:24:31 PM EDT
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How about we start with Nov 4?  I have two on that date.

No we should start with my Nov 1st form 4
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 1:37:39 PM EDT
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How about we start with Nov 4?  I have two on that date.

No we should start with my Nov 1st form 4


the hell with those dates

12/10/13

Link Posted: 2/3/2014 1:45:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/3/2014 1:57:38 PM EDT
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Would be fine with me...
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 2:27:43 PM EDT
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WTF!  This is Monday for crying out loud!  STAMPS NOW!
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 4:06:10 PM EDT
[#26]
Anyone know what's the current lead-time for dealer to dealer Form 3 transfers?
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 4:07:29 PM EDT
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Last one I saw was 29 days
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 4:12:06 PM EDT
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X87!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 5:19:20 PM EDT
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Sounds like today was paper form day.
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 7:57:48 PM EDT
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How about we start with Nov 4?  I have two on that date.

No we should start with my Nov 1st form 4


Me too. No word yet.

Side question. For those of you disapproved, when you fix and resubmit do you wait the full 90+ days or go back to top of pile?
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 8:04:30 PM EDT
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You have to wait 90 days again.
Link Posted: 2/4/2014 11:31:27 AM EDT
[#32]
NFA tracker showed a few Oct 30 approvals yesterday........looks like another slow day today.  
Link Posted: 2/4/2014 7:21:12 PM EDT
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I got one from Silencershop that was sent on 10/29. I haven't heard anything about it yet, but hopefully I will hear something soon.
Link Posted: 2/4/2014 7:23:11 PM EDT
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None of them were efiles that I can see.  The weather is bad there.  Are they working?
Link Posted: 2/4/2014 10:34:45 PM EDT
[#35]
Hopefully I should be in here waiting with the rest you soon
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 2:55:29 AM EDT
[#36]
Disapproved on 01/14.
Refund sent on 01/31
Posted to my card 02/04

Just in case anyone was wondering.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 10:29:10 AM EDT
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What was wrong?
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 11:34:42 AM EDT
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Good morning registered eForms users:

For the past two weeks you have been experiencing various performance related issues while attempting to use eForm.  These issues have included slow response times, inability to finalize and submit forms, pay.gov screen not displaying, inability to select product types for some submissions, inability to view PDF’s, the system abruptly returning the user back to the home screen,  and some of you have not been able to log in at all.  While any of you have been able to successfully submit your eForms, others have not been able to get them out of your “Draft” folders.

First, we want to offer our sincere apology for what you are currently experiencing while using eForms.  The quality of eForms’ current performance is not indicative of the quality of performance that ATF strives to provide its customers.  We share your current frustrations and we want you to know that we are doing everything that we can to address these issues.  We continue to meet every day with “experts” in the field, and we are confident that we will soon find a solution.

We believe that eForms is a worthwhile investment for us, as well as for you, the firearms industry.  And we think that you feel the same. The statistics below are reflective of this week’s work (our eForms week is calculated from one Wednesday to the next for reporting purposes):

New eforms user registrations: 405

Form 1 submissions: 208

Form 3 submissions: 930

Form 4 submissions: 898


So, in spite of the performance issues, eForms is doing what it was designed to do.  It may be slower and it may be temperamental at times, but we believe it to still be a worthwhile investment.

We are committed to provide, you, our customers, the best service that we can and to this end we will continue our efforts to resolve the issues with our eForms system.  While we are trying to resolve these issues it may be necessary for us to perform system restarts throughout the day where we may bring eforms down for an hour or so.  We request your patience with us and your understanding that this process is unavoidable until we can correctly identify and resolve the issues.

We will provide you with periodic updates on our efforts to ensure you of our commitment and to keep you informed.  We thank you for your patience and your continued use of eForms until these issues are resolved.

Please feel free to contact me at anytime if you have any questions or comments at [email protected] or you can use the “Ask the Experts” function within eForms.

Sincerely,
 
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Lenora (Lee) Alston-Williams
Industry Liasion Analyst - IT
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Washington, DC 20226
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Link Posted: 2/5/2014 11:36:05 AM EDT
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So over 2k Eforms in the last week
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 11:48:00 AM EDT
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That number seems lower than I thought it would be.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 1:01:34 PM EDT
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So over 2k Eforms in the last week

That number seems lower than I thought it would be.


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Link Posted: 2/5/2014 2:46:26 PM EDT
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That number seems lower than I thought it would be.


Why would it surprise you that they were lower, when they came in an email regarding the fact that many people can't successfully submit their eforms?

Link Posted: 2/5/2014 5:56:59 PM EDT
[#43]
I still would like them to do efile for those of us not wanting to go get a trust done. I cant find a local lawyer even wanting to touch it when I explain why I want to do one.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 6:01:58 PM EDT
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You need to find an attorney that specializes in NFA trusts.  Any other attorney would have no clue.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 6:35:08 PM EDT
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You need to find an attorney that specializes in NFA trusts.  Any other attorney would have no clue.
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I still would like them to do efile for those of us not wanting to go get a trust done. I cant find a local lawyer even wanting to touch it when I explain why I want to do one.


You need to find an attorney that specializes in NFA trusts.  Any other attorney would have no clue.


Firearms Industry Consulting Group

I can tell you the answer though. Legal entities don't require fingerprints, photographs or CLEO signatures...

Kind of hard to do all of those electronically.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 6:59:22 PM EDT
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Firearms Industry Consulting Group

I can tell you the answer though. Legal entities don't require fingerprints, photographs or CLEO signatures...

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I still would like them to do efile for those of us not wanting to go get a trust done. I cant find a local lawyer even wanting to touch it when I explain why I want to do one.


You need to find an attorney that specializes in NFA trusts.  Any other attorney would have no clue.


Firearms Industry Consulting Group

I can tell you the answer though. Legal entities don't require fingerprints, photographs or CLEO signatures...

Kind of hard to do all of those electronically.



All of those could be scanned and my local pd only uses electronic fingerprinting.  In 2004 when I they fingerprinted me for the bar exam, they had to go looking for the ink pad in a storage closet.  

Hell they're sending us electronic copies of federal tax stamps, electronic fingerprints and signatures should be a problem.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 7:01:45 PM EDT
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I still would like them to do efile for those of us not wanting to go get a trust done. I cant find a local lawyer even wanting to touch it when I explain why I want to do one.


You need to find an attorney that specializes in NFA trusts.  Any other attorney would have no clue.


Firearms Industry Consulting Group

I can tell you the answer though. Legal entities don't require fingerprints, photographs or CLEO signatures...

Kind of hard to do all of those electronically.


The PSP does fingerprints electronically, and sends them to the FBI and DHS. They could be done once and kept on file with the ATF, and you can esign your tax return so that dog wont hunt.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 7:19:35 PM EDT
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The PSP does fingerprints electronically, and sends them to the FBI and DHS. They could be done once and kept on file with the ATF, and you can esign your tax return so that dog wont hunt.
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You need to find an attorney that specializes in NFA trusts.  Any other attorney would have no clue.


Firearms Industry Consulting Group

I can tell you the answer though. Legal entities don't require fingerprints, photographs or CLEO signatures...

Kind of hard to do all of those electronically.


The PSP does fingerprints electronically, and sends them to the FBI and DHS. They could be done once and kept on file with the ATF, and you can esign your tax return so that dog wont hunt.


And what is your solution for the CLEO signature, seeing as how the dealer has to submit the Form 4.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 8:15:06 PM EDT
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I've been trying to login to the Eforms site since Sunday, and always keep getting this page:

eForms Outage

Due to daily maintenance, the e-Forms system is temporarily unavailable.

We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you in advance for your cooperation and patience.

ASSISTANCE:
Please direct questions to the OST Customer Support Help Desk at 1-877-875-3723 or [email protected].

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This happens at all hours throughout the day. Is anybody seeing the same thing? I've used different browsers and I'm seeing the same page.
Link Posted: 2/5/2014 8:20:20 PM EDT
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I've been trying to login to the Eforms site since Sunday, and always keep getting this page:

eForms Outage

Due to daily maintenance, the e-Forms system is temporarily unavailable.

We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you in advance for your cooperation and patience.

ASSISTANCE:
Please direct questions to the OST Customer Support Help Desk at 1-877-875-3723 or [email protected].

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This happens at all hours throughout the day. Is anybody seeing the same thing? I've used different browsers and I'm seeing the same page.
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I just successfully logged in and am currently viewing my saved Form 1 draft.
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