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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:43:59 PM EDT
Loading some 9mm on my 550 with my cast and powder coated bullets today, and I start getting some shaving when
seating bullets from not enough flare. I adjusted the die down 1/8 turn or so, all seems good for 8-10 reloads, then I get a couple with little to no flare. Repeat the adjust process and same thing, 8-10 rounds ok, then scraping PC and lead. Went through this 5 or so times so in total I’ve adjusted the die more than half a turn. I’m using mixed brass so that could be a contributing factor. Looking for advice on what to look for. Thanks. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:54:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: azmp5]
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Are you trimming your brass?
I don't usually trim my 9mm constantly but I have found that because there will be a decent variation in oal, this caused the flaring to be totally random and I'll get issues like that. I shoot a decent amount of 9mm and every 1.5-2 years ill set my 650 to trim my 9mm down to a standard length and call it good for 2 years |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:35:15 PM EDT
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No I am not trimming brass.
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:49:53 PM EDT
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Have to ask, you are tightening the lock on the PM to hold the adjustment?
Other poster, nobody trims 9mm brass as it is already shorter than trim to length. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:58:06 PM EDT
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Yes, I am tightening the lock nut. Also, with the powder measure clamped to the die it should be obvious if the die
backed off since the PM would rotate with it and the fail safe rod would no longer be straight up and down. I have had to adjust it before, but maybe every thousand rounds or so, not every 10-20. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:13:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Grumple]
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I'll note that when I use mixed range brass not all cases will flare equally and occasionally I will get a case that barely flares.
This is due to different case manufacturing lengths I presume. Adjust your die and try multiple brands in your mixed bag of brass until they all flare. Not sure if this could be your issue. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:14:24 PM EDT
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@Bashby
Aside from the brass length variation- which is very likely the biggest culprit- the type of lock ring used can be an issue too. If the ring doesn't have a setscrew (Hornady, RCBS, etc.) or o-ring (Lee), they can- and will loosen- enough that you won't notice right away. IME, Dillon rings are notorious for it. What I do that takes the issue away is load the shell plate completely and tighten all lock rings and powder measure while a piece of brass is in the die. This takes away any 'slop'. By doing this, I haven't had the lock ring problem in quite awhile. |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 1:43:38 PM EDT
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I shoot a decent amount of 9mm and every 1.5-2 years ill set my 650 to trim my 9mm down to a standard length and call it good for 2 years I might be dense....but how do you trim 9MM X 19 brass on Dillon XL 650? |
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Posted: 9/19/2024 6:23:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bashby]
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I think I found the problem. Was loading more 9mm and it stopped dropping powder. Found a screw on the powder measure had fallen out.It must have been unscrewed all the way and the outer aluminum arm that it passes through was bending out, I had to straighten it to get the screw to line back up with the threaded hole. Kinda hard to explain but it was the screw that I have the Allen wrench in. Now that I have it back where it’s supposed to be it is way over flaring the brass.
 Attached FileNow I have a bunch of ammo to disassemble, I think I have a couple with no powder. |
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Posted: 9/19/2024 8:52:26 PM EDT
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Sorta on/off topic…
I can’t recommend enough the new Lee Ultimate Lock Rings. Worth every penny and are a massive upgrade from the Dillon lock rings. |
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Posted: 9/20/2024 3:20:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bashby: I think I found the problem. Was loading more 9mm and it stopped dropping powder. Found a screw on the powder measure had fallen out.It must have been unscrewed all the way and the outer aluminum arm that it passes through was bending out, I had to straighten it to get the screw to line back up with the threaded hole. Kinda hard to explain but it was the screw that I have the Allen wrench in. Now that I have it back where it's supposed to be it is way over flaring the brass. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/451123/image_jpg-3326865.JPG Now I have a bunch of ammo to disassemble, I think I have a couple with no powder. On the early version Dillon PM that screw threads into the aluminum housing. Dillon swapped out my old PM for the new version for free and commented the screw into the housing will strip out eventually. Looks like you have the latest version with the nylon locknut. |
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Posted: 9/20/2024 3:41:00 PM EDT
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Dillon has Steel Lock Rings now in addition to the zinc ones. The Dillon wrench works well for to tighten down their lock rings.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2024 1:44:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 243winxb]
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Loose screw found. Great detective work.
You need an M type expander/funnel. Works wirh brass of different lengths. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/21/2024 5:13:08 PM EDT
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My 550 is fairly old and well used. Several of the threaded holes are approaching their service limit. Threads in aluminum suck, zinc, too.
The two screws for the primer assembly is one spot. The other place is the two screws that hold the powder funnel to the powder die. These are wear points when changing calibers. Should I install helicoils or buy replacement parts or...? |
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Posted: 9/22/2024 7:23:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trollslayer: My 550 is fairly old and well used. Several of the threaded holes are approaching their service limit. Threads in aluminum suck, zinc, too. The two screws for the primer assembly is one spot. The other place is the two screws that hold the powder funnel to the powder die. These are wear points when changing calibers. Should I install helicoils or buy replacement parts or...? |
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