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Link Posted: 10/17/2022 11:22:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SLRBoy] [#1]
HHV bump
TW retention
HHV lattice
ComTac 6 dual lead
Dynamic Fuzz Blk Multi
Wilcox G24
Unity MK2.0 mounts
SF IR light
Agilite batt holder
Hel-Star IR strobe
TW accessory bungee kit

Bino NV’s
Jerry C-2 thermal clip on with external pack

Love this setup. Much lighter than my previous setups after 15-20 min you really notice the reduction in weight.

Link Posted: 10/18/2022 12:13:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By djohn:

Pure awesomeness! Triple 8 Sweat Saver?

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Originally Posted By French1966:
The $35 Amazon skateboard helmet

Pure awesomeness! Triple 8 Sweat Saver?




@djohn

Yep, you have a good eye
Link Posted: 10/18/2022 10:48:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SLRBoy:
HHV bump
TW retention
HHV lattice
ComTac 6 dual lead
Dynamic Fuzz Blk Multi
Wilcox G24
Unity MK2.0 mounts
SF IR light
Agilite batt holder
Hel-Star IR strobe
TW accessory bungee kit

Bino NV’s
Jerry C-2 thermal clip on with external pack

Love this setup. Much lighter than my previous setups after 15-20 min you really notice the reduction in weight.

https://i.imgur.com/JXfISLr.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/piemGUi.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/ODdQBGN.jpg
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How do those pads compare to 4d?
Link Posted: 10/18/2022 11:55:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SLRBoy] [#4]
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Originally Posted By brodband8:


How do those pads compare to 4d?
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Originally Posted By brodband8:
Originally Posted By SLRBoy:
HHV bump
TW retention
HHV lattice
ComTac 6 dual lead
Dynamic Fuzz Blk Multi
Wilcox G24
Unity MK2.0 mounts
SF IR light
Agilite batt holder
Hel-Star IR strobe
TW accessory bungee kit

Bino NV’s
Jerry C-2 thermal clip on with external pack

Love this setup. Much lighter than my previous setups after 15-20 min you really notice the reduction in weight.

https://i.imgur.com/JXfISLr.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/piemGUi.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/ODdQBGN.jpg


How do those pads compare to 4d?



For me no comparison. The lattice is the best I’ve ever used.
Link Posted: 10/27/2022 4:04:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EODcrawler] [#5]
Options

MTEK Flux-V
Ops Core Ballistic
BNVD-1431

Does anyone know if the Team Wendy version of the S&S M-Ax mount will work with M Lok? Wanting to get one.

Link Posted: 10/27/2022 7:10:35 PM EDT
[#6]
Finally upgraded… going from a team Wendy bump to ops core fast SF super high cut ballistic

She’s pretty comfortable I do have to say and I haven't even messed around with the pads yet.  

Sold my SCAR to fund the purchase sadly but also was able to buy a chest freezer and quarter of a cow with the money

Have a baby due here any day now so probably won’t find the time or money to complete it any time soon but here’s how she sits

PS for anyone wondering it’s foliage green and it matches pretty dang close with Shaw Concepts’s green

Link Posted: 10/28/2022 12:57:15 AM EDT
[#7]
Anyone rocking the 16mm tubes? I'm considering getting those on my next set and curious what folks think of them.
Link Posted: 10/28/2022 7:07:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GunnyFitz] [#8]
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Originally Posted By SLRBoy:



For me no comparison. The lattice is the best I’ve ever used.
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Better than the 4D pads?
Link Posted: 10/28/2022 1:01:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GunnyFitz:

Better than the 4D pads?
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I think he just meant he hasn't tried anything else to know.  I'd like to try some of the lattice and see for myself.  I just try not to buy from HHV if I can help it because they usually just pawn off chinese stuff.
Link Posted: 10/28/2022 1:19:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brodband8:

I think he just meant he hasn't tried anything else to know.  I'd like to try some of the lattice and see for myself.  I just try not to buy from HHV if I can help it because they usually just pawn off chinese stuff.
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Hear ya on that. I tried one, didnt care for it. In fact, I like the Shellback Tactical helmet much more than HHV. For me it goes TW, OC SB
Link Posted: 10/30/2022 3:34:33 PM EDT
[#11]
I spent a couple of hours scrolling through this entire thread.  Awesome to see how much shit has evolved.

I've got some old pics lost somewhere so will make another contributions or two.

My secondary/loaner rig and a friends ACH rig that I just got done painting.

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Video explaining them - show it to noob friends discourage by price


Link Posted: 11/1/2022 12:24:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Daggertt] [#12]
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Originally Posted By @SLRBoy
HHV bump
TW retention
HHV lattice
ComTac 6 dual lead
Dynamic Fuzz Blk Multi
Wilcox G24
Unity MK2.0 mounts
SF IR light
Agilite batt holder
Hel-Star IR strobe
TW accessory bungee kit

Bino NV's
Jerry C-2 thermal clip on with external pack

Love this setup. Much lighter than my previous setups after 15-20 min you really notice the reduction in weight.

https://i.imgur.com/JXfISLr.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/piemGUi.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/ODdQBGN.jpg
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Where did you get the jerry-c?
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 4:02:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/9/2022 9:58:16 AM EDT
[#14]
Dual iray MH25’s
Surefire aviator scout body (red and white light)
Peltor comtacs
Wilcox bridge
Team Wendy bump
Wouxon GMRS and ham comms

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Link Posted: 11/22/2022 12:00:41 AM EDT
[#15]
Well, it doesn't hold a candle to what yall have, but I figured I'd officially join the fun..

Link Posted: 11/22/2022 12:17:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KM223] [#16]
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Originally Posted By Madcat207:
Well, it doesn't hold a candle to what yall have, but I figured I'd officially join the fun..

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Does it have the superpower to see in the dark??

Welcome to the fun!!
Link Posted: 11/22/2022 2:22:23 PM EDT
[#17]
Man top to bottom one can see quickly how this gear has evolved.  I appreciate everyone's input.
I have attempted to find a detailed forum to read so as to avoid asking the proverbial dumb question. . . .

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Question for those in the know.  Looking to purchase a dual NV goggle system.  Budget I'd like to stay around is $10K [includes helmet and associated mount etc.]

My uses as best as I can explain:  hiking / walking at night, training and shooting at night and having gear that enhance my ability to respond to bump in the night, rare dispatch of night time predators in/around chicken coop and property.

I get the higher the FOM generally the better quality the setup is, but not always.  I want something above average in quality field of view and robust.  Prefer power by AA lithium batteries.  Want something that I can grow the accessories for around as I learn what I need/want over time.

Any direct feedback would be appreciated.  


Link Posted: 11/22/2022 3:25:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/25/2022 12:30:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: slappomatt] [#19]
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Originally Posted By LittleMagic:
Man top to bottom one can see quickly how this gear has evolved.  I appreciate everyone's input.
I have attempted to find a detailed forum to read so as to avoid asking the proverbial dumb question. . . .

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Question for those in the know.  Looking to purchase a dual NV goggle system.  Budget I'd like to stay around is $10K [includes helmet and associated mount etc.]

My uses as best as I can explain:  hiking / walking at night, training and shooting at night and having gear that enhance my ability to respond to bump in the night, rare dispatch of night time predators in/around chicken coop and property.

I get the higher the FOM generally the better quality the setup is, but not always.  I want something above average in quality field of view and robust.  Prefer power by AA lithium batteries.  Want something that I can grow the accessories for around as I learn what I need/want over time.

Any direct feedback would be appreciated.  


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one thing to keep in mind is most NVG accessories like lasers and illuminators and Eotech are CR123 based.
Link Posted: 11/27/2022 3:07:11 PM EDT
[#20]
I am really tempted by the new TNVC SF light, but I just can't stomach the price since I already have many good lights. I am using the following solutions for now.
The Inforce is the dual IR/White. The rotary HDS is white, but I also have an IR head.

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Link Posted: 11/27/2022 3:17:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/27/2022 3:23:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/27/2022 3:52:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TNVC:
Thanks for the consideration, fine setups you have there!
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I appreciate it.
I might still pull the trigger. I actually had it in my cart and then got cold feet.
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 9:15:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TimeOnTarget:

I appreciate it.
I might still pull the trigger. I actually had it in my cart and then got cold feet.
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Which light are you referring to?
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 9:49:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GSDAK47:


Which light are you referring to?
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tnvc and surefire collaborated on a helmet light , the HMTL-SF , helmet mounted task light
Link Posted: 11/29/2022 10:37:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TimeOnTarget] [#26]
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Originally Posted By GSDAK47:
Which light are you referring to?
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Yes, the new collaboration light with SF and TNVC.

They programed it to come on low first, then high, which make more sense for NVG use.

I did get my battery pack from TNVC as well as some other accouterment.
Link Posted: 12/1/2022 11:51:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/3/2022 12:11:33 AM EDT
[#28]
So, hopefully it counts, but i figured i would share my new setup:



Loving the Nightcap; for what i do, its far more comfortable than a helmet
Link Posted: 12/4/2022 1:56:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mickdonaldson] [#29]
I've pulled some good ideas from this thread, so here's two of my three (Ballistic is currently naked)

HMT - Sionyx Pro, MH25, Modified "RQE" Bridge:








BNVD-SG (Not Pictured - Jerry C5)








Otto Noisebarrier's getting used more than AMPs. High dollar, low dollar, no dollar.
Link Posted: 12/5/2022 7:43:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:
I've pulled some good ideas from this thread, so here's two of my three (Ballistic is currently naked)

Otto Noisebarrier's getting used more than AMPs. High dollar, low dollar, no dollar.
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Ya really like those Mick? No matter which tip I put on they literally hurt the inner ear way too much to tolerate for even 10 mikes!

Thankfully, Big Daddy Unlimited didnt have a hygienic return policy and I sent them back the very next day!
Link Posted: 12/5/2022 12:44:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GunnyFitz:

Ya really like those Mick? No matter which tip I put on they literally hurt the inner ear way too much to tolerate for even 10 mikes!

Thankfully, Big Daddy Unlimited didnt have a hygienic return policy and I sent them back the very next day!
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Have Comply Tips, love them. Wore them all night at the East Coast Night Shoot - perfect. A lot of this stuff comes down to individual factors - I can merge HMT too!
Link Posted: 12/9/2022 12:23:19 PM EDT
[#32]
I took a chance on these Bifrost Gear arms for the Howard Leights. These were about $100 and they are made in China. Bifrost says they are an American company owned by Vets, but this stuff is all Chicom. I only larped around the house, but they seem ok. I mounted these on my FAST Bump.

I am still waiting for my Ops Core arms to show up for my Amps.

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Link Posted: 12/9/2022 12:43:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TimeOnTarget:
I took a chance on these Bifrost Gear arms for the Howard Leights. These were about $100 and they are made in China. Bifrost says they are an American company owned by Vets, but this stuff is all Chicom. I only larped around the house, but they seem ok. I mounted these on my FAST Bump.

I am still waiting for my Ops Core arms to show up for my Amps.

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This looks a lot better than the axl rac. I struggle to turn my ear pro on an off with those and they tend to get loose.
Link Posted: 12/11/2022 8:11:44 PM EDT
[#34]
Finally got it all setup… this makes a total of 4 tourniquets on my kit

Link Posted: 12/11/2022 8:25:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnDough] [#35]
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Originally Posted By brodband8:


How do those pads compare to 4d?
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I just got my HHV lattice's in. I had 4D. I have not obviously used the HHV a lot, but on initial impression, the HHV's are not quite as comfortable due to their texture. They aren't BAD, though. I would say on donning both, initial comfort impressions are 80-90% as good as the 4D's. Where they are superior, is in stability. The lattice pads make the helmet feel notably more stable. What I think will be the biggest improvement, is that the HHV's won't turn into sweat repositories that annoy you.

Advice: Dry-fit your pads before putting on those sticky velcro dots! I had to peel a few off ASAP and re-stick them to mate up well with the inside of my TW Carbon EXFIL.

Also of note, I had to make zero adjustments to my positioning of my RNVG's when changing over from 4D. The helmet fit placed them perfectly, just like I had them with my 4D pads in the helmet. I purchased the 3/4" HHV Lattice.

I have not tried them with the included sweatband. That addition may push t he comfort up to or beyond the 4D's.
Link Posted: 12/11/2022 9:30:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnDough] [#36]
-TNVC RNVG
-G24 Wilcox
-PVS7 IR focus
-Butler creek flip caps size 07.
-LIF filters (2)
-AB ground optimized battery pack w/4oz of lead taped to it
-KD NERDS
-MSA Sordin w/Gel
-AXL RAC
-Comtac Arms
-Unity Tactical Adapters for Comtac
-TW EXFIL Carbon
-TW Cover
-TNVC Mohawk
-Surefire V1 w/Arisaka 300 body, Thryme mount, Arisaka mount, lumensfactory tailcap
-Princtontec MPLS white/IR
-HHV lattice pads

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Link Posted: 12/11/2022 10:40:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/11/2022 11:09:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnDough] [#38]
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Great setup!
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Thanks! I am really liking it. It has everything I want, nothing I don't. Of special mention is the battery pack. It allows me to leave the kit "fully loaded" and not fumble with batteries, because the absolute worst that could happen is the battery pack gets nuked from a leak. While sad, that's in another league from the RNVG itself. Also, the HHV pads. They really stabilize the helmet compared to 4D. I have not worn the sweat band, but with it, I'd say they are probably nearly as comfortable. They also won't get sweaty and cold etc.

*I am not a fan of HHV as a company, and I know noone there personally. Initial comfort with the pads had me thinking "Yeah, gonna flip these, there is no real improvement over 4D, but they don't feel BAD, so I'll try them". Once I kitted the helmet out and wore it compared to the 4D, the stability is next level, and I'm keeping them, although I wish Wilcox or someone made them instead of HHV, although HHV just licenses them from Carbon, I believe, I still just dislike having "HHV" in my kit list, lol! So this definitely isn't a "brand shill" move.

What's nuts is that it's taken me almost 3 years to finally "sort" my night vision kit. All those brands and products mish-mashed into a cohesive whole.
Link Posted: 12/12/2022 12:12:06 AM EDT
[#39]
Airflow will be boss. I've got HHV, love the Helmet (and it worked for a Ukrainian) - Would love to try the pads, but man, the price.
Link Posted: 12/12/2022 12:21:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mickdonaldson:
Airflow will be boss. I've got HHV, love the Helmet (and it worked for a Ukrainian) - Would love to try the pads, but man, the price.
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I just tried it with the headband. I'd say it's on par with 4D. Some may like it a hair more, some a hair less. The big advantage I noticed is helmet stability, and of course air flow and not turning into waterlogged marshmellows.

The construction is such that it is multi-layered regarding "pad stiffness", so it's not just a simple lattice. It kindof made me feel a hair better about what it cost. I do not regret the purchase. I'm going to repurpose my 4D pads into the loaner bucket I'm building.
Link Posted: 12/12/2022 1:00:40 PM EDT
[#41]
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Originally Posted By JohnDough:
-TNVC RNVG
-G24 Wilcox
-PVS7 IR focus
-Butler creek flip caps size 07.
-LIF filters (2)
-AB ground optimized battery pack w/4oz of lead taped to it
-KD NERDS
-MSA Sordin w/Gel
-AXL RAC
-Comtac Arms
-Unity Tactical Adapters for Comtac
-TW EXFIL Carbon
-TW Cover
-TNVC Mohawk
-Surefire V1 w/Arisaka 300 body, Thryme mount, Arisaka mount, lumensfactory tailcap
-Princtontec MPLS white/IR
-HHV lattice pads

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@JohnDough can you remove the Sordins from the helmet mount and put them back on the headband as needed? I'm in need for new ear protection and liked these when I tried someone elses.
Link Posted: 12/12/2022 1:10:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CJ47:

@JohnDough can you remove the Sordins from the helmet mount and put them back on the headband as needed? I'm in need for new ear protection and liked these when I tried someone elses.
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Yes, but it would be a significant amount of work, and if you have the Sordin headband that is not velcro-covered, you will have cut it apart already. Honestly, it's so much of a pain I'd just buy another set. You're looking at snap rings and just a boatload of annoyance.
Link Posted: 12/12/2022 1:11:38 PM EDT
[#43]
I still don't know how you guys take such awesome photos of your gear.

I wonder what the total would be if we added up the cost of all the gear in this thread
Link Posted: 12/12/2022 1:28:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JohnDough:


Yes, but it would be a significant amount of work, and if you have the Sordin headband that is not velcro-covered, you will have cut it apart already. Honestly, it's so much of a pain I'd just buy another set. You're looking at snap rings and just a boatload of annoyance.
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That's what I was afraid of...Thanks for the tip.
Link Posted: 12/12/2022 1:29:15 PM EDT
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I still don't know how you guys take such awesome photos of your gear.

I wonder what the total would be if we added up the cost of all the gear in this thread
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I don't want to know!
Link Posted: 12/12/2022 1:54:56 PM EDT
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I don't want to know!
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Back of the napkin math
avg cost per rig in this thread: $12,000 (a few panos threw the curve)
avg number of rigs per page: 3
total pages: 142

Total cost of thread: $4,970,000
Link Posted: 12/12/2022 2:07:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gearsmithy:

Back of the napkin math
avg cost per rig in this thread: $12,000 (a few panos threw the curve)
avg number of rigs per page: 3
total pages: 142

Total cost of thread: $4,970,000
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Wild. I added mine up and it came out to 11,8XX. Just like me. Perfectly average

We could fund oil company subsidies for roughly 25 seconds with all the kit in this thread!
Link Posted: 12/12/2022 3:01:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JohnDough:

Wild. I added mine up and it came out to 11,8XX. Just like me. Perfectly average

We could fund oil company subsidies for roughly 25 seconds with all the kit in this thread!
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good thing everyone on GD is a billionaire
Link Posted: 12/17/2022 11:30:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Spyider] [#49]
I hope he’s into NV as much as I am when he gets older… already saving up for a set of duals for him

Link Posted: 12/18/2022 5:17:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Spyider:
I hope he’s into NV as much as I am when he gets older… already saving up for a set of duals for him

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Now THAT is cool Brother! Congrats Josh! S/F
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