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Wont say anything bad or good about how anything is set up as I dont have a PC, but IFAK wise, if you dont have a tourniquet, you need to get one.
One day I will get one....PC that is.... ETA: I was maybe thinking of placing some chest seals, gauze, hemostatic agents, NPA, needle and some iburprofen inside my front PC. Since the plates are multicurve there is a little gap that I can fill them in. Just unsure of how comfortable it will feel. That is assuming this is what you are carrying as your plate IFAK. |
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Originally Posted By NCUrk:
Wont say anything bad or good about how anything is set up as I dont have a PC, but IFAK wise, if you dont have a tourniquet, you need to get one. One day I will get one....PC that is.... ETA: I was maybe thinking of placing some chest seals, gauze, hemostatic agents, NPA, needle and some iburprofen inside my front PC. Since the plates are multicurve there is a little gap that I can fill them in. Just unsure of how comfortable it will feel. That is assuming this is what you are carrying as your plate IFAK. View Quote 1x CAT TQ on my belt 1x CAT TQ on the brace of my firearm 1x CAT TQ on the bottom of my PC right below the triple mag pouch in front 1x Tourni-Kwik Compression Tourniquet in the IFAK attached to the flat pack |
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Phokus makes IFAKs designed to fit inside plate bags but I don't know How much space they need vs how much space you have.
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Originally Posted By mend0k:
PC is 98% complete. Mainly trying to figure out where to place an IFAK. I have my biggest ifak on the backpack which I considered my "3rd line" gear and i'll basically be carrying whenever I have my PC on but would like to have one on my PC as well. I was maybe thinking of placing some chest seals, gauze, hemostatic agents, NPA, needle and some iburprofen inside my front PC. Since the plates are multicurve there is a little gap that I can fill them in. Just unsure of how comfortable it will feel. Radio is a baofeng and is placed in the back because if I do use it, it means there's another person w/ me who can turn it on etc... The iceplate holds 1.5L but the flatpack has the 3L camelpack pouch that I can throw on if necessary. I repurposed the camelback pouch as a PC attached backpack since it was smaller than my flatpack (plus), much lower profile and I can remove it much easier via clips rather than re-sewing the molle straps. I have a TAG GP pouch in the front that I can store whatever (zipped up dump pouch), but plan on mainly using it to store protein bars (army marches on its stomach) etc... and since the front mags have the magpul assisted rubber thingies, it doesn't hinder my ability to grab the two mags under it. Any other critique to my setup is much welcomed! View Quote Move around in full kit for two hours and I'll wager you'll be absolutely cooked. Since you have a flat pack, consider moving more kit onto it to allow you to run the carrier in slicker fashion. I guarantee you'll end up training in it more often, which is the whole point. Armor without sustained mobility is a recipie for it sitting in the closet. Also, I'd keep IFAK contents separate from anything else. Vacuum seal them and put em in a dedicated pouch to keep everything sterile. IFAKs really shouldn't be touched until/unless you need them. If riding inside the plate bag, there's a good chance you get the contents dirty and/or damaged. My 2c. |
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Originally Posted By 135Patriots:
That looks like a very thorough setup. If you're looking for constructive critique (please dont take this as an insult whatsoever!!), I'd try and find a way to scale that down a bit. All of that kit has got to weigh comfortably north of what, 30lbs? Move around in full kit for two hours and I'll wager you'll be absolutely cooked. Since you have a flat pack, consider moving more kit onto it to allow you to run the carrier in slicker fashion. I guarantee you'll end up training in it more often, which is the whole point. Armor without sustained mobility is a recipie for it sitting in the closet. Also, I'd keep IFAK contents separate from anything else. Vacuum seal them and put em in a dedicated pouch to keep everything sterile. IFAKs really shouldn't be touched until/unless you need them. If riding inside the plate bag, there's a good chance you get the contents dirty and/or damaged. My 2c. View Quote I'm taking it out hiking in a few weeks so I guess i'll find out then. Thanks for the input! |
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I'd consider dropping 2-3 of the side mags (can always plus up if needed), and maybe move 2 to a belt if you definitely need more than the 4 on your PC and 1 in your rifle. I'd also consider moving the radio forward some to where you can reach it (user preference), as he may not be right on top of you to change channels, etc when/if needed. I ended up sliding my fourth mag/IFAK back on the cummerbund in order to move the radio forward. I'm not an authority though, just what I found through tons of training, AARs, etc.
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Originally Posted By 135Patriots:
Think this is sound advice. I try to keep the cummerbund as slick as is possible. Putting stuff on it limits mobility and just isn't very comfortable. As for magazines, my setup is three rifle + one pistol on the PC then one addtl rifle and two addtl pistol on the belt. If I'm ever in a situation where seven magazines is insufficient, honestly, my survivability is going to be extremely low and I probably made a serious mistake. To me the carrier is about hedging risk, not having something by my side for 'end of the world'. If the latter happens I dont think extra mags in my backpack vs on my person will make the difference. How capable we want our setup to be is subjective and personal, of course. ETA: my carrier as of right now. It's not going to keep me alive in a zombie invasion, but I can accept that. https://i.imgur.com/bbBFLnXr.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mend0k:
PC is 98% complete. Mainly trying to figure out where to place an IFAK. I have my biggest ifak on the backpack which I considered my "3rd line" gear and i'll basically be carrying whenever I have my PC on but would like to have one on my PC as well. I was maybe thinking of placing some chest seals, gauze, hemostatic agents, NPA, needle and some iburprofen inside my front PC. Since the plates are multicurve there is a little gap that I can fill them in. Just unsure of how comfortable it will feel. Radio is a baofeng and is placed in the back because if I do use it, it means there's another person w/ me who can turn it on etc... The iceplate holds 1.5L but the flatpack has the 3L camelpack pouch that I can throw on if necessary. I repurposed the camelback pouch as a PC attached backpack since it was smaller than my flatpack (plus), much lower profile and I can remove it much easier via clips rather than re-sewing the molle straps. I have a TAG GP pouch in the front that I can store whatever (zipped up dump pouch), but plan on mainly using it to store protein bars (army marches on its stomach) etc... and since the front mags have the magpul assisted rubber thingies, it doesn't hinder my ability to grab the two mags under it. Any other critique to my setup is much welcomed! https://i.imgur.com/f1Jra4rl.jpg?1 Radio wire/antenna management: https://i.imgur.com/qvp3hkhl.jpg Front: https://i.imgur.com/gZs9XyJl.jpg View Quote - Drop 2-3 mags from PC - Radio to weak side (~2 o’clock) where you can reach it. The buddy system would be ok if civilians had across-the-board equipment standardization and the same buddy all the time but IRL you get what you can take and what are the chances your buddy will know how to operate your Baofeng vs. an Icom, Harris, Yaesu, Kenwood, etc.? - IFAK in one of the spots where you dropped a mag The HSLD guys have run two-part, front-back, behind-the-plate IFAKs for a while but the problem with that IRL is that no one at a VA 2A Rally (gone sideways) is going to know where your IFAK is when you are unconscious and bleeding out. Better to run something easily identifiable like: Attached File For reference: Attached File |
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Originally Posted By NCUrk:
Wont say anything bad or good about how anything is set up as I dont have a PC, but IFAK wise, if you dont have a tourniquet, you need to get one. One day I will get one....PC that is.... ETA: I was maybe thinking of placing some chest seals, gauze, hemostatic agents, NPA, needle and some iburprofen inside my front PC. Since the plates are multicurve there is a little gap that I can fill them in. Just unsure of how comfortable it will feel. That is assuming this is what you are carrying as your plate IFAK. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: What I’d do: - Drop 2-3 mags from PC - Radio to weak side (~2 o’clock) where you can reach it. The buddy system would be ok if civilians had across-the-board equipment standardization and the same buddy all the time but IRL you get what you can take and what are the chances your buddy will know how to operate your Baofeng vs. an Icom, Harris, Yaesu, Kenwood, etc.? - IFAK in one of the spots where you dropped a mag The HSLD guys have run two-part, front-back, behind-the-plate IFAKs for a while but the problem with that IRL is that no one at a VA 2A Rally (gone sideways) is going to know that when they are working on you. Better to run something easily identifiable like: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/567E3130-0DE0-495E-9C90-6C9A0BC1C4B6_jpe-1290581.JPG For reference: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/252A347B-B8C2-45F3-B347-D3B2B97F8D9B_png-1290585.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By vjf915:
I assume this works on the premise that it's being used on the person that needs medical attention? Because if this is intended to be used on someone else, then someone who isn't injured will drop their plate while getting out the ifak. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By vjf915:
I assume this works on the premise that it's being used on the person that needs medical attention? Because if this is intended to be used on someone else, then someone who isn't injured will drop their plate while getting out the ifak. View Quote If you are part of a highly trained team and everyone knows that items A, B and C are in a vacuumed sealed bag behind your front plate and items X, Y and Z are in a vacuumed sealed bag behind your back plate, you are able to streamline your PC a bit in order to provide molle space for additional gear that a mission may require. ARFcom's Joe 6-pack who does weekend warrior classes, probably isn't going to have a load out of frag, and smoke grenades so finding PC space for a quality IFAK shouldn't present a problem. |
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
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Just ordered a Spiritus MK4 along with an AXL clip adapter and Velcro panel to mount on one of my Grey Ghost Gear MPCs for testing. If all goes well I will probably use a similar setup on my larger carrier.
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I have no PC or armor plates but looking to add both for a SHTF situation. Most likely do a PC first then add some LVL3+ later. I am 6'8 220lbs. Recommendations for size and product? I'm assuming Large but i have seen guys say it is preference. I am an athlete and feel like it would be best to utilize that. I feel like it makes sense with what guys have been saying that mobility, aiming dexterity and speed is a better defence than being an armored turtle.
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Originally Posted By Aliasness:
I have no PC or armor plates but looking to add both for a SHTF situation. Most likely do a PC first then add some LVL3+ later. I am 6'8 220lbs. Recommendations for size and product? I'm assuming Large but i have seen guys say it is preference. I am an athlete and feel like it would be best to utilize that. I feel like it makes sense with what guys have been saying that mobility, aiming dexterity and speed is a better defence than being an armored turtle. Thanks for whatever yall got! View Quote The plates are subjective and it'll come down to what you can afford and what is available. PCs: Ferro, Spiritus, ESSTAC. Look on the EE. Start with a good belt and chest rig. Integrate your PC when you find a setup that works. |
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Originally Posted By mend0k:
PC is 98% complete. Mainly trying to figure out where to place an IFAK. I have my biggest ifak on the backpack which I considered my "3rd line" gear and i'll basically be carrying whenever I have my PC on but would like to have one on my PC as well. I was maybe thinking of placing some chest seals, gauze, hemostatic agents, NPA, needle and some iburprofen inside my front PC. Since the plates are multicurve there is a little gap that I can fill them in. Just unsure of how comfortable it will feel. Radio is a baofeng and is placed in the back because if I do use it, it means there's another person w/ me who can turn it on etc... The iceplate holds 1.5L but the flatpack has the 3L camelpack pouch that I can throw on if necessary. I repurposed the camelback pouch as a PC attached backpack since it was smaller than my flatpack (plus), much lower profile and I can remove it much easier via clips rather than re-sewing the molle straps. I have a TAG GP pouch in the front that I can store whatever (zipped up dump pouch), but plan on mainly using it to store protein bars (army marches on its stomach) etc... and since the front mags have the magpul assisted rubber thingies, it doesn't hinder my ability to grab the two mags under it. Any other critique to my setup is much welcomed! https://i.imgur.com/f1Jra4rl.jpg?1 Radio wire/antenna management: https://i.imgur.com/qvp3hkhl.jpg Front: https://i.imgur.com/gZs9XyJl.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mend0k:
Yeah I changes it up a bit. Moved the radio up front and turned the front pouch into an IFAK and placed it on my right side. I still have the 10 speeds as my "general purpose" pouches since they're pretty much flat when empty. You'll see them here with mags still in them just because right now it's set up as a grab n go PC. When I use it, I remove the pack on the back and run the sides slick. https://i.imgur.com/1ZOyyrRl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/e2buyQul.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mend0k:
Yeah I changes it up a bit. Moved the radio up front and turned the front pouch into an IFAK and placed it on my right side. I still have the 10 speeds as my "general purpose" pouches since they're pretty much flat when empty. You'll see them here with mags still in them just because right now it's set up as a grab n go PC. When I use it, I remove the pack on the back and run the sides slick. https://i.imgur.com/1ZOyyrRl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/e2buyQul.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By AZ2A:
My fairly simple First Spear setup: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/482038/20200228_131134_jpg-1294893.JPG View Quote |
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Just reminded me... I need a multi tool still for my PC...
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Originally Posted By devildogljb:
Plate Carrier: Mayflower APC HSGI Taco x3 Baofeng UV5r with PTT & Rope Antenna Gadsden dynamics rip away IFAK North American Rescue Tourniquet holder 5.11 12 hour pack with bladder AR500 Steel Plates x 2 https://i.imgur.com/h6knDTY.jpg?1 View Quote I’m a dumbass. Carry on. You guys are making me want to post my 6094 PC. Edit: Link to rope antenna? |
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
I’m a dumbass. Carry on. You guys are making me want to post my 6094 PC. Edit: Link to rope antenna? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By devildogljb:
Plate Carrier: Mayflower APC HSGI Taco x3 Baofeng UV5r with PTT & Rope Antenna Gadsden dynamics rip away IFAK North American Rescue Tourniquet holder 5.11 12 hour pack with bladder AR500 Steel Plates x 2 https://i.imgur.com/h6knDTY.jpg?1 I’m a dumbass. Carry on. You guys are making me want to post my 6094 PC. Edit: Link to rope antenna? |
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Originally Posted By devildogljb: No worries the war belt location messes with your mind a little. Here is the link for the antenna https://caatailantennas.com/products/baofeng-wearable-antenna-package View Quote |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: Thanks. I’ve never seen that particular one before. How do you like it? Range affected? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mend0k:
Yeah I changes it up a bit. Moved the radio up front and turned the front pouch into an IFAK and placed it on my right side. I still have the 10 speeds as my "general purpose" pouches since they're pretty much flat when empty. You'll see them here with mags still in them just because right now it's set up as a grab n go PC. When I use it, I remove the pack on the back and run the sides slick. https://i.imgur.com/1ZOyyrRl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/e2buyQul.jpg View Quote If I'm going to use a radio it will be because I'm separated from the people I need to communicate with, likely alone. I want to be able to turn the radio on or off by myself and also be able to access the radio without removing gear, in case I need to. In all honesty, hopefully without sounding like a big jerk, the main purpose I envision myself using my radios would be a situation where I need to go somewhere, maybe by myself, and possibly forcefully take food or supplies from someone else. This would obviously be a last resort, SHTF situation. I want to be able to keep my family (who are likely worried about my situation) aware of what's going on when I'm away. |
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Originally Posted By devildogljb:
Plate Carrier: Mayflower APC HSGI Taco x3 Baofeng UV5r with PTT & Rope Antenna Gadsden dynamics rip away IFAK North American Rescue Tourniquet holder 5.11 12 hour pack with bladder AR500 Steel Plates x 2 https://i.imgur.com/h6knDTY.jpg?1 View Quote |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: What I’d do: - Drop 2-3 mags from PC - Radio to weak side (~2 o’clock) where you can reach it. The buddy system would be ok if civilians had across-the-board equipment standardization and the same buddy all the time but IRL you get what you can take and what are the chances your buddy will know how to operate your Baofeng vs. an Icom, Harris, Yaesu, Kenwood, etc.? - IFAK in one of the spots where you dropped a mag The HSLD guys have run two-part, front-back, behind-the-plate IFAKs for a while but the problem with that IRL is that no one at a VA 2A Rally (gone sideways) is going to know where your IFAK is when you are unconscious and bleeding out. Better to run something easily identifiable like: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/567E3130-0DE0-495E-9C90-6C9A0BC1C4B6_jpe-1290581.JPG For reference: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/252A347B-B8C2-45F3-B347-D3B2B97F8D9B_png-1290585.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Firefighter503:
How did you route your antenna? Can you snap a pic? I have the same radio/antenna and have it mounted similarly and the antenna run along the cummerbund to the rear plate pocket, but I don't know enough about radios/antennas to know the best configuration for it (but I assume as vertical as possible). Thanks. View Quote |
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- Ferro Concepts Slickster - Spiritus Micro Fight MK4 placard w/ triple 5.56 insert and large flap - Spiritus strap covers (calling them shoulder pads would be extremely charitable) - NAR CAT TQ in Tactical Tailor TQ cover (attached with some spare shock cord I cut out of a jacket, vs. the set Spiritus sells for $10) - Sharpie for scoring targets, etc. Pocket on the placard contains: - 1x sealed Israeli bandage - 1x chem light - Thyrm Cell Vault w/ 2x 123A and 1x 1/3N batteries (for Surefire light and Aimpoint on primary rifle) Plates are TAP Gamma Level 3+. A bit bulky by today's standards, but they still fit the carrier, and the weight is pretty reasonable compared to AR500. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By devildogljb: Sorry for the late response working and packing to move from Virginia to West Virginia. No real need to to post a video but i can send one to you through PM but i simply routed it through the cummerbund up the back to the shoulder weak side shoulder pad. You can kind of see it going through the shoulder pad (tan in color). My wife has the same radio and we use it for a Oh Sh!t radio if sh!t hits the fan. We currently live near Quantico and a little too close to DC if you ask me. Plus its nice to monitor frequencies. View Quote I'm more concerned with if the routing done improperly (zigzag, horizontal, vertical, back and forth, etc.) could have an adverse affect on range/clarity. I'll grab some pics of mine this week for feedback. |
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Originally Posted By Firefighter503:
No worries. I'd hardly call a couple hours a late response haha. I'm in PWC myself. Jealous you are heading to WV. I'm more concerned with if the routing done improperly (zigzag, horizontal, vertical, back and forth, etc.) could have an adverse affect on range/clarity. I'll grab some pics of mine this week for feedback. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By devildogljb: I did mine in a back and forth pattern vertically on one row till the top of the back of the carrier then vertical to the shoulder pad. Now i have not noticed and adverse affects but i can not speak for any other antennas other than mine. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Firefighter503:
Cool. Sounds similar to mine. I went up, and then took a right across the top of carrier instead of onto shoulder, but went over shoulder like you initially. I'll test both this week and see if one works better than the other. View Quote |
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Best I can do right now. Better than nothing. "Po' but proud" was the bumper sticker back in the day. Cheap Condor carrier, two AR500 IIIA plates, (all gifts, BTW), with 4 D&H AR mags and two P-10C mags. That's it for now. When the boy gets out of school I'll repo my one remaining AR500 III plate - it's in his backpack in front of a IIIA soft armor panel.
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Originally Posted By Exorpmtech:
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/00/ba/76/00ba762eea0ae389b7dec09f23526632.jpg View Quote It looks like a 80's shower curtain but it may actually camo fairly well in a deciduous forest this time of year. I'm looking into the woods right now and the general pattern of leaves covering the ground actually looks similar to this . If the brown had a bit more of a red tint, it would be a perfect match. |
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Originally Posted By PFran42: Thanks. I've never seen that particular one before. How do you like it? Range affected? View Quote |
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I may have spoken too soon. A friend I have done video work for in the past saw that picture I posted, and called me - "I will give you decent gear if you promise me to burn that airsoft crap..."
TacProGear Commercial Modular Tactical Vest, (no plates) Unknown ASP pouch High Ground 5.56 Drop Down Admin Pouch Double mag Tactical Tailor Horizontal Accessory Pouch S.O. Tech BLOCS Quick Eject Tourniquet carrier - gonna need a tourniquet now. S.O. Tech Viper Flat IFAK - empty, but who could possibly argue. I will need the medical list they suggest. High Ground Compression Pouch Short, (?) Tactical Tailor Fight Light Joey Hydration pouch with bladder. Did I mention all of this gear is NEW? Attached File I think I'll let him burn the Condor stuff now...holy carp, that was a heck of a nice thing to do. Now if I could just figure out where/how to USE this stuff...they didn't have this type of gear when I wore a military uniform... |
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Originally Posted By armoredman:
I may have spoken too soon. A friend I have done video work for in the past saw that picture I posted, and called me - "I will give you decent gear if you promise me to burn that airsoft crap..." TacProGear Commercial Modular Tactical Vest, (no plates) Unknown ASP pouch High Ground 5.56 Drop Down Admin Pouch Double mag Tactical Tailor Horizontal Accessory Pouch S.O. Tech BLOCS Quick Eject Tourniquet carrier - gonna need a tourniquet now. S.O. Tech Viper Flat IFAK - empty, but who could possibly argue. I will need the medical list they suggest. High Ground Compression Pouch Short, (?) Tactical Tailor Fight Light Joey Hydration pouch with bladder. Did I mention all of this gear is NEW? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/360589/New_plate_carrier_and_stuff_jpg-1299416.JPG I think I'll let him burn the Condor stuff now...holy carp, that was a heck of a nice thing to do. Now if I could just figure out where/how to USE this stuff...they didn't have this type of gear when I wore a military uniform... View Quote Dont do this Attached File But something like this Attached File |
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How about this? I added the hydration bladder and med pouch after I took the first pic. It seems hot, probably have the wrong shirt for it. Yes, I know our boys and girls overseas are wearing a whole lot more in much higher heat and so did I when i was in the Gulf over 3 decades ago...but fat and old now.
I will not pay to repair any system damaged by a picture of me causing it to recoil in horror and commit electronic suicide. Attached File The pouch top left as you look at it has only one thing in it to make it poof out - a can of SPAM. I guess I have tactical SPAM now...I just really have no idea what to put in these things. Attached File |
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