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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:01:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prior to this Apple users would surely vehemently defend the continued use of their proprietary connector. Now that they have it, Apple users will once again profess how superior they are for having a feature Android phones have had for years.  It really is a bizarre behavior. The Steve Jobs reality distortion field is still in effect. I'll have to watch the presser when it's unveiled. It will somehow be revolutionary that they are moving to a connector they should have used 7 years ago. Also the copium around the flip flopping on the magsafe connector for laptops is laughable. Not to mention that stupid touch bar they finally ditched. I will give them props for ditching intel and finally going back to RISC chips. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:05:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m shocked my 12 Pro Max is still going strong. I was an android guy before and I thought it was normal for phones to take a dump after two years. It's normal for $30 phones to crap out after 2 years. I've never had a Samsung Galaxy S series phone "crap out" in under 5 years. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:06:25 AM EDT
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I've got a 12 mini, which IMO is just about the perfect smartphone form factor - small enough to actually use as a phone without needing to contort your hand in weird ways to hold it and feel like you're holding a flooring plank to the side of your head, yet big enough to be useable and browse things on if you want to use it for that. It was actually sized for a phone, not a phablet.
I was displeased when they discontinued that size after the 13...wasn't really considering upgrading so much until word of the 15 with USB-C came out. Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a man who makes his phone decision based on the wired charging connector. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: USB-C was introduced in 2014 and readily available since 2016, but apple has continued with their joke connector for another 7 years. Apple copium is real, you will all be heralding USB-C once apple adopts if fully. There's a man who makes his phone decision based on the wired charging connector. I use wireless at home, but I'm not always at home  At work I bring a cable with my laptop when I go into the office, and my go bag (clothes, toiletries, etc) has 2 extra cables and an Apple wall plug in - the wall wart is USB-C; one cable is USB-C which plugs into that, and the other one is USB-A. Why 2 cables? Because the last time I needed my bag was because I was being carted away in an ambulance because of acute and sudden pancreatitis I called 911 while grabbing my bag, throwing on some shoes and heading to the door. Rushing was pointless as the ambulance took 10 excruciating minutes to get there and they couldn't give me any pain meds anyway. Anyway - the hospital beds only have USB-A jacks in them Since they don't really make an iPhone that can last more than 24 hours or so, you're stuck with needing to bring a cable and wall wart if you want to be in communication with people. Or watch porn from your hospital bed. Whichever; not judging.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:07:17 AM EDT
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I will not be DOWNGRADING to an iPhone from my ROG Phone 6.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:09:21 AM EDT
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Several tech blogs are questioning the presence of a new chip near the charge port and are concerned that Apple plans to control which type C cables work with the phones. We'll see soon.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:28:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:35:25 AM EDT
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I’m less enthused about the USB-C port than the titanium frame and programmable action button like on my ? WATCH Ultra.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:20:24 PM EDT
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apple Xr master race checkin in
although mine is starting to get slow as fuck, so may be due for an upgrade soon. ugh. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:22:59 PM EDT
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I don’t know. I kinda like my 6s
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:24:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suggest replacing your iphone every 2 years. Almost every phone provider has good trade in deals and iphones have tremendous trade in value compared to android Or he can make better financial decisions. Replacing every two years is a costly waste. Replace when broken or there’s a new feature you actually need or can justify the cost of. My 10 is in perfect shape and the battery is still at 90% capacity. Going strong. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:25:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suggest replacing your iphone every 2 years. Almost every phone provider has good trade in deals and iphones have tremendous trade in value compared to android I just got $1000 credit for trading in my Galaxy S8. Can you get a grand for a iPhone that's 4 or 5 generations old? |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:31:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suggest replacing your iphone every 2 years. Almost every phone provider has good trade in deals and iphones have tremendous trade in value compared to android Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m shocked my 12 Pro Max is still going strong. I was an android guy before and I thought it was normal for phones to take a dump after two years. I suggest replacing your iphone every 2 years. Almost every phone provider has good trade in deals and iphones have tremendous trade in value compared to android I upgrade every year for a few reasons. I get the latest features, camera, etc. I get a new battery and the best resale/trade in on my current iPhone. I get a new 12 month warranty on the phone. I only take a hit of about $300-$400 for the spread by either selling my old phone on Craigslist, or trading it in at Apple.com. I get a 10% Veteran discount from Apple and live in a no sales tax state which is good for $80-$100 savings. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:34:50 PM EDT
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Nah illl hold off until they put an M2 chip or so thing similar on the iphone. I have the ipad pro and mac with m1 chips. Those are game changers
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:35:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: apple Xr master race checkin in although mine is starting to get slow as fuck, so may be due for an upgrade soon. ugh. my xr is still ok has a slightly cracked screen and a messed up charging port so have to charge on the round thing you set phone on may spring for a 14 after the new ones show up but we will see |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:36:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just got $1000 credit for trading in my Galaxy S8. Can you get a grand for a iPhone that's 4 or 5 generations old? Yes |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:42:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m shocked my 12 Pro Max is still going strong. I was an android guy before and I thought it was normal for phones to take a dump after two years. I sort of agree. My 13 Pro Max is going strong except for the battery health on mine. Less than 2 years of ownership and it’s at 86%. My previous Xr was at a 100% a year in. I never let the thing die nor do I let it drop below 20%. And yet here we are. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:49:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I sort of agree. My 13 Pro Max is going strong except for the battery health on mine. Less than 2 years of ownership and it’s at 86%. My previous Xr was at a 100% a year in. I never let the thing die nor do I let it drop below 20%. And yet here we are. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m shocked my 12 Pro Max is still going strong. I was an android guy before and I thought it was normal for phones to take a dump after two years. I sort of agree. My 13 Pro Max is going strong except for the battery health on mine. Less than 2 years of ownership and it’s at 86%. My previous Xr was at a 100% a year in. I never let the thing die nor do I let it drop below 20%. And yet here we are. My XR is at 93% but I'll probably upgrade to a 14 when the 15 drops as there's always deals on the last generation phone around then. My mom is still running an 8+ so I'll probably pass the XR to her once I replace the busted screen.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:51:19 PM EDT
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No thanks, I will continue to buy 2-3 generation old pixels and sideload graphene every 3 years or so.
It will take me 20 years to spend that much on phones |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:54:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never had that issue at all and have had phones for years including the Samsung 7. One I ha e now is three years old. Still strong. Maybe it's you Apple makes things simple and restricts you from doing anything. Same here. All of my android phones have easily gone 3 or 4 years before I upgraded. Mostly HTC and Motorola phones. I have a Pixel 6a right now and it has been super solid for a year. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:55:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apple is an unChristian, Chinese company. The Apple logo is the forbidden fruit. Apple gave China $275B to operate there. And Apple caves to every demand to delist apps in China that the CCP doesn't like. Well this is the dumbest thing I've read all day... For your sake, you better not shop at any retailers. Have subscriptions to any streaming services. Etc, etc. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:55:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally Pretty sure that wasn't apple's choice. The overregulated EU mandated it. Apple didnt want to make separate EU and Everybody else phones, so everybody gets the usb-c. You can thank big government and globohobo for this win. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/10/24/eu-gives-final-approval-to-usb-c-law/ Coming not too far from this is removable batteries. Being mandated by big government. What that translates to for consumers is lower battery capacity and gone are the days of the waterproof glass+metal+glass sandwich construction. Its easy to make waterproof phones if you dont need to facilitate a user replaceable battery and seal it with with a rubber gasket. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 1:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure it's going to Change your Life?  So, some feature has to change your life to justify buying something? 
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Posted: 8/19/2023 1:05:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what makes it a joke connector. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/398889/AppleSheep-2924843.jpg Well that and they don't last for shit. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 1:26:49 PM EDT
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Apple violates US monopoly laws
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Posted: 8/19/2023 1:28:31 PM EDT
[#25]
My ancient (8-10 yrs.) android has usb-c and "rapid charge". So much for Apple's high tech reputation.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 1:32:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apple violates US monopoly laws So what?
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Posted: 8/19/2023 1:34:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure that wasn't apple's choice. The overregulated EU mandated it. Apple didnt want to make separate EU and Everybody else phones, so everybody gets the usb-c. You can thank big government and globohobo for this win. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/10/24/eu-gives-final-approval-to-usb-c-law/ Coming not too far from this is removable batteries. Being mandated by big government. What that translates to for consumers is lower battery capacity and gone are the days of the waterproof glass+metal+glass sandwich construction. Its easy to make waterproof phones if you dont need to facilitate a user replaceable battery and seal it with with a rubber gasket. IDK about battery capacity, but waterproofing is no big deal. I have several waterproof electronic watches that have never leaked, and I use them in water, unlike a phone. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 1:43:47 PM EDT
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I switched from Android to the iphone 12 so I could use an Apple watch as I preferred it for tracking my fitness journey. Long story short I'm 7lbs from a 100lb drop in weight.
I didn't like the battery life of the 12 so I upgraded to the 13. The 13 was great but I wanted a zoom lens so last year I upgraded to a 14 pro. Here's the thing, I do want to ditch the lightning but it doesn't really matter. First off 99% of my charging is done via magsafe. My battery lasts for more than a day so I just stick it on the magsafe overnight. Heck I even have a magsafe powerbank for when I'm traveling. Second, all of the equipment from my company is also Apple so I have a MacBook pro, 2 magic mice, a magic keyboard, an ipad, airpod pros. My Macbook is USB-c but my ipad, mice, airpods (if I'm not using magsafe) and keyboard are ALL lightning so it's not going away. As far as the Android and Apple haters, there are things the Android does better there are things the Apple does better but nowadays they are so freaking similar it's a toss up. Since my company is 100% Apple it's really nice having an iphone and I LOVE the apple watch. It's my favorite apple product. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 7:54:32 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes sir, they're Satan. Their logo is a bitten apple - harkening to the Garden of Eden - and celebrates man's fall from God's grace. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 8:08:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hate to see my lightning cables go to waste but when my iPhone 8 dies, I’ll get whatever is the latest phone at the time. I only get a new phone when my current one dies . I'm like you. I had an OG IPhone SE for a long time, finally bought a 13 mini to replace it. I'm not upgrading this one until it is dead. I like small phones, not the ones the size of ping-pong paddles. They are getting harder to find. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 8:10:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m shocked my 12 Pro Max is still going strong. I was an android guy before and I thought it was normal for phones to take a dump after two years. I bought an 11 Pro 512 gB the week they were released and it still works great. No issues at all and battery health at 94%. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 8:11:28 PM EDT
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I just upgraded to an SE2, so I'm set for the next 3-5 years.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 8:14:38 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m shocked my 12 Pro Max is still going strong. I was an android guy before and I thought it was normal for phones to take a dump after two years. They seemed to last pretty well. I had my iPhone 4S until they shut it off about 8 months ago because it was 3G. Had a new battery put in it once. It lasted from Feb 2011 until 2023. Still worked! Now have a different old iPhone 8. Love the lightweight and size. It must be at least 5 years old? Going from a 4S to seeing a friends 13 Pro was a shocker in performance and screen. The weight difference was a big negative. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 9:22:34 PM EDT
[#34]
Given that Apple doesn’t provide chargers these days, this is probably a way to make money by selling “approved” chargers to people. If you don’t buy the specific Apple charger, your camera a won’t work and the battery will die in 70% of its normal run time.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 9:31:09 PM EDT
[#35]
If they make a new SE size phone with USB-C I would buy it. I’m not buying a huge phone.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 9:40:02 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Given that Apple doesn't provide chargers these days, this is probably a way to make money by selling "approved" chargers to people. If you don't buy the specific Apple charger, your camera a won't work and the battery will die in 70% of its normal run time. Samsung PR Dept checking in 
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Posted: 8/19/2023 9:41:24 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They seemed to last pretty well. I had my iPhone 4S until they shut it off about 8 months ago because it was 3G. Had a new battery put in it once. It lasted from Feb 2011 until 2023. Still worked! Now have a different old iPhone 8. Love the lightweight and size. It must be at least 5 years old? Going from a 4S to seeing a friends 13 Pro was a shocker in performance and screen. The weight difference was a big negative. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm shocked my 12 Pro Max is still going strong. I was an android guy before and I thought it was normal for phones to take a dump after two years. They seemed to last pretty well. I had my iPhone 4S until they shut it off about 8 months ago because it was 3G. Had a new battery put in it once. It lasted from Feb 2011 until 2023. Still worked! Now have a different old iPhone 8. Love the lightweight and size. It must be at least 5 years old? Going from a 4S to seeing a friends 13 Pro was a shocker in performance and screen. The weight difference was a big negative. You can still buy small and lightweight iPhones. Its only the Pro models are made with stainless and weight more. The regular models are still aluminum and pretty light. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 9:47:20 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: fuck yes finally, my Macbook and iPad have long been usb-c. I honestly don't understand Apple's reluctance to go to USB-C on their phone when they went that way on the iPad and Macbook. Why not just go with the same connector on ALL devices? They've always been about their architecture and how easy it was to connect your devices to your other devices like your iPhone to your Macbook, or your iPad to your iMac, etc. But having 1 device with a different charging connection was just a big bag of WTF. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 9:53:56 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m shocked my 12 Pro Max is still going strong. I was an android guy before and I thought it was normal for phones to take a dump after two years. Same for me. My phone still runs as good as the day I got it about 3 years ago. Plus they don’t proactively provide my conversations to the government. The only thing I hate is Apple cameras suck the entire world’s ass. Unacceptable these days. I might finally upgrade for the 15. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:04:04 PM EDT
[#40]
My phone is not very important to my life. I can’t imagine how a new one would change that.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:20:01 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m less enthused about the USB-C port than the titanium frame and programmable action button like on my ? WATCH Ultra. I wonder what they will let you do with an action button. I like having it on my Watch Ultra... but it can only do one thing out of about 6 different choices. I'd like it to be more context aware. Like when I'm at the office, it activates the Outside Walk workout, since I go out and walk a couple times a day when I'm at work. At home, a 15 minute timer would probably get used more, if not Indoor Walk, since I have a treadmill and walk inside more than outside. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:22:54 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's normal for $30 phones to crap out after 2 years. I've never had a Samsung Galaxy S series phone "crap out" in under 5 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m shocked my 12 Pro Max is still going strong. I was an android guy before and I thought it was normal for phones to take a dump after two years. It's normal for $30 phones to crap out after 2 years. I've never had a Samsung Galaxy S series phone "crap out" in under 5 years. The last three phones prior to my current iPhone were flagship Samsungs, either Notes or Galaxy S. I experienced significant performance issues with all three around the two year mark. They would constantly freeze up which could only be rectified by restarting, usually 6+ times a day. Even when they did work, it was very slow. I’m not interested in operating system tribal warfare. I’m glad your phones are working for you. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:23:55 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I sort of agree. My 13 Pro Max is going strong except for the battery health on mine. Less than 2 years of ownership and it’s at 86%. My previous Xr was at a 100% a year in. I never let the thing die nor do I let it drop below 20%. And yet here we are. Quote HistoryQuoted: I sort of agree. My 13 Pro Max is going strong except for the battery health on mine. Less than 2 years of ownership and it’s at 86%. My previous Xr was at a 100% a year in. I never let the thing die nor do I let it drop below 20%. And yet here we are. Do you let it charge up to 100%? Often? Do you plug it in at night and just let it do it's thing? I'm curious. I got my 14Pro in December, and I think I've only charged it to 100% maybe 8 times. I can get near 2 days of my average use out of it on normal days, so I put it on a charger in the morning until it gets to 85% (I set a Shortcut to notify me when it gets there) then I disconnect it. I wish Apple would let us set a charge limit... I still have a Samsung S22, and it has a setting for that. I could just put it on a charger overnight and it won't go past 85%. Quoted: Pretty sure that wasn't apple's choice. The overregulated EU mandated it. Apple didnt want to make separate EU and Everybody else phones, so everybody gets the usb-c. You can thank big government and globohobo for this win. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/10/24/eu-gives-final-approval-to-usb-c-law/ Coming not too far from this is removable batteries. Being mandated by big government. What that translates to for consumers is lower battery capacity and gone are the days of the waterproof glass+metal+glass sandwich construction. Its easy to make waterproof phones if you dont need to facilitate a user replaceable battery and seal it with with a rubber gasket. "removable" and "user-replaceable" aren't exactly the same thing. I did see a video about it, and IIRC the EU law would require the battery be user replaceable without having to use any special tools. I've also noticed on the leaked photos of the USB C port, there are two screw holes next to it... so maybe the newer iPhones will be much easier to get into. If it were super easy to replace the battery, I wouldn't do goofy things to prevent charging it up a lot. I'd just go full bore and then replace it in a year or two. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:25:17 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, I've been waiting for usb c. And Now your Life is Complete!! 
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:36:00 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The last three phones prior to my current iPhone were flagship Samsungs, either Notes or Galaxy S. I experienced significant performance issues with all three around the two year mark. They would constantly freeze up which could only be rectified by restarting, usually 6+ times a day. Even when they did work, it was very slow. I’m not interested in operating system tribal warfare. I’m glad your phones are working for you. Samsung does put a lot of their own shit into Android. I have an S22 that I used for a bit. I liked SOME of the Sammy stuff, but there's a lot of shit they pack under the hood... it's probably too much. Go for long enough with too much shit under the hood and shit gets wacky, yo. If I were in that situation, I'd update everything and then do a full factory reset, update it and then restore my apps and shit. It would probably work alright for another couple years. I'm back in the walled garden, and I'm loving how all my Apple shit integrates. I had used a couple MacBooks before, I had a 5th gen iPad Mini, now I have a 6th gen that I got in 2021. I'm back to using a MacBook, have an Apple Watch Ultra, and everything works together. My fiancé and her son have iPhones and they're in my "family" group. I added my mom, since my sisters and I just got her an iPhone and an Apple Watch. She had some heart issues, and hopefully the watch can help her monitor things. We'll get her an AppleTV soon, so she can watch some good stuff and not have to deal with her flaky smart tv. Android tries to do some integration, and it works, but it's not as seamless as Apple's. The only thing I can say I think is missing from Apple's system is a web interface for iMessage. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:41:38 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are they getting rid of the silly notch thingie? Mostly https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/180048/IMG_2514_jpeg-2924864.JPG Not terrible I suppose. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:52:24 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My IPhone 7 Plus still works fine. 
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Posted: 8/20/2023 9:40:36 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah illl hold off until they put an M2 chip or so thing similar on the iphone. I have the ipad pro and mac with m1 chips. Those are game changers What will an M series chip bring to the iPhone other than an increase in processor speed? The current A16 chip in the 14 Pro phones are the fastest in the world for cellular. What could you use, or need more speed for on a phone of any screen size? It just seems that since you already have a tablet & desktop for the heavy lifting, the next phone chip should be plenty. |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 9:57:15 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what makes it a joke connector. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/398889/AppleSheep-2924843.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lightning is not a 'joke' of a connector besides being Apple specific. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/398889/AppleSheep-2924843.jpg Listen, when android phones start regularly being supported more than 18 months after release we can talk. Galaxy s8 release date: April 2017 Galaxy s8 latest OS upgrade: August 2018 iPhone 8 release date: September 2017 iPhone 8 latest OS upgrade: September 2022 |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 10:11:18 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m shocked my 12 Pro Max is still going strong. I was an android guy before and I thought it was normal for phones to take a dump after two years. ?? ?? ?? |
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