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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:15:36 PM EDT
What does GD currently think of the metric system? Note that for the purposes of this poll, I am really referring to the SI system.
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I hate it, especially when you're trying to work on a vehicle and it has both SAE and Metric hardware.
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I had a discussion about this very topic last week. I was visiting college friends and their socialist son was home from college telling me we should change. When I asked him to defend his position on changing the only reason he could give was we should join the rest of the world.....
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I had a discussion about this very topic last week. I was visiting college friends and their socialist son was home from college telling me we should change. When I asked him to defend his position on changing the only reason he could give was we should join the rest of the world..... View Quote Metric and Imperial are not mutually exclusive. We use both and they both have their uses in different situations. |
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I think it's inevitable the US will adopt it, but until then fuck'em and measure the dick in inches.
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Quoted: He has a point, but that is no reason to change. Metric and Imperial are not mutually exclusive. We use both and they both have their uses in different situations. View Quote |
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Anything critical enough to be in metric/SI already is.
Quit trying to destroy my traditional units. |
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Yeah but that justification (that everyone else uses it) does piss me off. I am profoundly in favor of switching sooner rather than later, and what the rest of the world does has nothing to do with it. At least, not to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: He has a point, but that is no reason to change. Metric and Imperial are not mutually exclusive. We use both and they both have their uses in different situations. Depends if you are doing a lot of international trade, I guess. My understanding is that a lot of US manufacturing has to cater to metric anyway of they want to sell to metric markets. For me, it's a case of working in the units that suit the situation best. I can do both Metric and Imperial easily, so it's no biggie to me either way. Hence my vote would be to "get both". |
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There is no single "best" system of units, and certainly not across all disciplines and applications. There are always tradeoffs.
Examples: I prefer working with metric fasteners. All but the smallest are in integer sizes, which I find much easier to remember and distinguish than fractional inch descriptions. However, for expressing distance, I prefer customary units. In part this is due to familiarity, but it is also because we have a much more common intermediate unit - the foot. Again, the benefit being able to describe common everyday things using integers. For describing weather conditions, I prefer Fahrenheit. Its 0-100 range nicely corresponds to typical living conditions and also provides finer graduations than Celsius. Whereas in more technical applications, I don't have a strong preference either way - it makes perfect sense to me to see a readout of engine coolant temperature in degC, for example. Aside: The one thing I do hate is the stupid "pound-mass" unit. It's fucking retarded, because unlike other units, it requires additional factors added on, beyond normal dimensional analysis. Want to use feet and pounds? Fine - the proper unit of mass in that system is the slug. (1 lb = 1 slug * ft / (s^2)) Stop trying to turn a unit of force into a unit of mass. |
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I use metric in Mexico. They're units.
The people I know in Canada who were around when they transitioned say it was stupidest thing that's ever happened in a country with no shortage of stupid. |
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I’m in Canada where the metric system has been in use since I was in high school.
I’m used to the metric system but in my industry HVAC most things still use the imperial system. Pressure in PSIG. Temperature for superheat and sub cooling in degrees F. Duct dimensions in inches. Pipe dimensions in inches. |
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The one thing I do hate is the stupid "pound-mass" unit. It's fucking retarded, because unlike other units, it requires additional factors added on, beyond normal dimensional analysis. Want to use feet and pounds? Fine - the proper unit of mass in that system is the slug. (1 lb = 1 slug * ft / (s^2)) Stop trying to turn a unit of force into a unit of mass. View Quote I'm not saying that makes any sense, but that's what it is. |
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What bothers me is when scientists talk about the definition of a kilogram. How about define a f'ing gram, not 1000x a gram. Man that pisses me off.
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You'll end up with an even worse mishmash of standard and metric measurement use than Canada.
It's a social re engineering project for government intellectuals and elitists. Don't do it |
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Per the NIST, the U.S. pound is indeed a measure of mass. It's definition is 0.4536 kg. I'm not saying that makes any sense, but that's what it is. View Quote It's a huge pain in the ass to use lb-mass, since basic physical formulae then need additional numerical factors added in. Easier to convert to slugs - or even to SI - do all of the work, and convert back if necessary. |
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Having lived and worked with both, I prefer metric for most things. The measurements are relatable, easy to visualize, and no damn fractions..unless you're me.
I like using metric fractions just to fuck with people. I am 1 and 39/50ths of a meter tall, for example. |
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What bothers me is when scientists talk about the definition of a kilogram. How about define a f'ing gram, not 1000x a gram. Man that pisses me off. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
What bothers me is when scientists talk about the definition of a kilogram. How about define a f'ing gram, not 1000x a gram. Man that pisses me off. A gram Originally defined as "the absolute weight of a volume of pure water equal to the cube of the hundredth part of a metre [1 cm3], and at the temperature of melting ice"(later at 4 °C, the temperature of maximum density of water). However, in a reversal of reference and defined units, a gram is now defined as one thousandth of the SI base unit, the kilogram, or 1×10-3 kg, which itself is now defined by the International Bureau of Weights and Measures, not in terms of grams, but by "the amount of electricity needed to counteract its force" |
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Poll fail.
No "Metric system is better suited to some situations, English units to others - Master Race says Get Both" option. |
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Well, I lile my reticles in mils and my drinks by the liter so....
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How does not being metric inconvenience your life?
Look, if you don't have the mental horsepower to sort through shit like this, then maybe you shouldn't be out in the road trying to direct traffic. Maybe you should just let people use the units they want to use. Not seeing anything to gain by dictate. ETA: Not referring to OP, specifically. It's either "your" or "y'alls". And, I'm about all y'alled out. |
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I'd happily ditch the imperial system completely.
Should have switched to metric decades ago. |
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Having used metric for work & lab—the transition is worth it.
I have a fraction & decimal chart from my days in the machine shop—nobody could keep track of the fractions & decimals. |
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Per the NIST, the U.S. pound is indeed a measure of mass. It's definition is 0.4536 kg. I'm not saying that makes any sense, but that's what it is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The one thing I do hate is the stupid "pound-mass" unit. It's fucking retarded, because unlike other units, it requires additional factors added on, beyond normal dimensional analysis. Want to use feet and pounds? Fine - the proper unit of mass in that system is the slug. (1 lb = 1 slug * ft / (s^2)) Stop trying to turn a unit of force into a unit of mass. I'm not saying that makes any sense, but that's what it is. |
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How does not being metric inconvenience your life? Look, if you don't have the mental horsepower to sort through shit like this, then maybe you shouldn't be out in the road trying to direct traffic. Maybe you should just let people use the units they want to use. Not seeing anything to gain by dictate. View Quote Sadly, it looks like some people already came by and tried to ram this system down everyone's throats. |
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The rod on the left is an abomination . Fuck the metric system https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/223987/83C43313-1413-4CED-A7D3-22DF1C4C25A6_jpeg-783107.JPG View Quote It looks like it could be decimeters, but that would be one really fucked up way of showing them. |
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