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Link Posted: 3/25/2024 11:50:28 PM EDT
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Nice! Is the larger trigger guard and ambi safety part of the build?
Link Posted: 3/25/2024 11:58:59 PM EDT
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What do you think of my "Danny Archer" inspired CAR-15? Obviously not an exact clone. I know I'm almost 20 yrs late to the party, but I got a bug up my ass to do one after watching "Blood Diamond" last month. Been a while since I've seen it. I'd say 90% of the build is PSA parts. Since it wasn't a true clone, I decided to do more of an M81 woodland job on it. I just need to put the tape switch back on.

Let's see your clones, or movie inspired builds.

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gun looks good, but don't care for the paint job.  Its looks too clean and precise.  Maybe a little wear on the finish and it will look more authentic. but good job, looks great.  I never even attempted to paint any of my guns for this very reason.

Link Posted: 3/26/2024 12:00:48 AM EDT
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No. That lower already had them on it. Like I said, I wasn't trying to go 100% clone correct. That's why I said, "inspired."
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 12:07:56 AM EDT
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Mine in its current form.  

It has an 11.5” heavy barrel. I really want to put a pencil barrel on it however

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Link Posted: 3/26/2024 2:55:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/26/2024 3:27:07 AM EDT
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No movie involved-
Been rocking this since ‘88






Link Posted: 3/26/2024 10:31:14 AM EDT
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Looking at photos it almost looks like they cut it to some off length in-between 10.5 and 11.5.  Obviously, as a chopped M-16A2 it will have some odd things about it that a real gun from the period would not have had.

I do want to do a clone, but reflecting what an actual gun from the year in which it was set might have had.  Were 10.5" barrels around in the late 1990s? Of not, I'm debating between 10" like the early carbines and the later 11.5".  The moderator is also one made by the prop guys and looks like it's in-between the first and second gen moderators lengthwise, so I'm debating between the two gens, although I think first gen would look best as an imitation.  Too bad functional moderators are considered suppressors.  So dumb.
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I was interested in building a replica for quite a while. Things mentioned above made me realize that the best I could do would be to build a tribute. As I gathered parts the whole thing devolved to become an inspired by build, because good enough just didn’t feel good enough.

I think I’ll pull it/that box of parts and have another look.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 11:21:15 AM EDT
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I was interested in building a replica for quite a while. Things mentioned above made me realize that the best I could do would be to build a tribute. As I gathered parts the whole thing devolved to become an inspired by build, because good enough just didn’t feel good enough.

I think I’ll pull it/that box of parts and have another look.
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I know what you mean. That's why I said my build was "inspired" by Danny Archers.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 1:23:52 PM EDT
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Looking at photos it almost looks like they cut it to some off length in-between 10.5 and 11.5.  Obviously, as a chopped M-16A2 it will have some odd things about it that a real gun from the period would not have had.

I do want to do a clone, but reflecting what an actual gun from the year in which it was set might have had.  Were 10.5" barrels around in the late 1990s? Of not, I'm debating between 10" like the early carbines and the later 11.5".  The moderator is also one made by the prop guys and looks like it's in-between the first and second gen moderators lengthwise, so I'm debating between the two gens, although I think first gen would look best as an imitation.  Too bad functional moderators are considered suppressors.  So dumb.
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I would go longer than 10". It looks cool but functions like shit apparently because there is no dwell time. The original XM177s got changed rather quickly because of it.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 8:44:51 PM EDT
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What’s the best moderator to buy?
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Link Posted: 3/26/2024 9:13:31 PM EDT
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What’s the best moderator to buy?
Anything plug n play to pin a 11.5” barrel?



KX5 or direct thread SF Warden
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 9:24:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/26/2024 9:25:30 PM EDT
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I am not a cloner, but those are some very nice carbines, Gentlemen.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 9:33:05 PM EDT
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For a Blood Diamond rifle?  PSA makes one.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-tia-flash-hider-black.html

It was just some weird tube/muzzle device the prop bros threw on the reused Gary Gordon movie rifle.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 9:33:42 PM EDT
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I’ve been eyeing a USP-C lately to finish the Blood diamond setup. I’ll SBR it one day.
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Link Posted: 3/26/2024 10:26:16 PM EDT
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For a Blood Diamond rifle?  PSA makes one.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-tia-flash-hider-black.html

It was just some weird tube/muzzle device the prop bros threw on the reused Gary Gordon movie rifle.
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It was originally used on the Colt 607
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 10:31:27 PM EDT
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It was originally used on the Colt 607
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For a Blood Diamond rifle?  PSA makes one.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-tia-flash-hider-black.html

It was just some weird tube/muzzle device the prop bros threw on the reused Gary Gordon movie rifle.

https://media.tenor.com/z8IxIGwkSo0AAAAM/false-wrong.gif

It was originally used on the Colt 607

Huh.  You weren't kidding.

Learn something new every day.  Thanks!
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 12:09:01 AM EDT
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Huh.  You weren't kidding.

Learn something new every day.  Thanks!
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For a Blood Diamond rifle?  PSA makes one.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-tia-flash-hider-black.html

It was just some weird tube/muzzle device the prop bros threw on the reused Gary Gordon movie rifle.

https://media.tenor.com/z8IxIGwkSo0AAAAM/false-wrong.gif

It was originally used on the Colt 607

Huh.  You weren't kidding.

Learn something new every day.  Thanks!


The actual movie part is some sort of tube, of course, but yeah, it is meant to imitate moderators.  I've also seen photos of some early 10" carbines of the subsequent models (like the XM177) with the earlier moderator.

H&R (PSA) makes a complete Blood Diamond imitation upper which uses the faux 1st gen. moderator.  They also use a 10" lightweight profile barrel.  The moderate was meant to help the short barrel function although they still went to 11.5".  Functional ones are deemed suppressors, though, but functional reproductions are made for those who must have them.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 12:14:59 AM EDT
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Pretty close to what Sarah Connor tried smoking Miles Dyson with.
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Pretty close to what Sarah Connor tried smoking Miles Dyson with.


Oh yeah, I think you're right!

I did upgrade the foregrip light with an LED kit.

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I'm partial to A1 sight and A1 grips. That thing is shit-hot!


Link Posted: 3/27/2024 12:17:32 AM EDT
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... which would have made it all jacked-up with an A2 upper.

The British prop dudes made some ganked stand-in carbines from full-length A2 rifles that movie-goers took / take for authentic.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 9:46:03 AM EDT
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... which would have made it all jacked-up with an A2 upper.

The British prop dudes made some ganked stand-in carbines from full-length A2 rifles that movie-goers took / take for authentic.
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Which gets in to the whole issue of do you clone the the movie repo or what the movie repo was trying to clone?

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:53:08 AM EDT
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Being a recovering cloner, I have always listed over a Blood Diamond “inspired” Israeli 733ish. This thread isn’t helping.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 12:48:27 PM EDT
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Especially since you can just buy a PSA "TIA" upper.  Easy peesy.  Back in my day (3 years ago) I had to make my own TIA muzzle device!  In the snow!
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 1:13:27 PM EDT
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Pretty cool OP. And kudos to PSA for recognizing that "Blood Diamond" clones are desirable.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 1:20:38 PM EDT
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What do you think of my "Danny Archer" inspired CAR-15? Obviously not an exact clone. I know I'm almost 20 yrs late to the party, but I got a bug up my ass to do one after watching "Blood Diamond" last month. Been a while since I've seen it. I'd say 90% of the build is PSA parts. Since it wasn't a true clone, I decided to do more of an M81 woodland job on it. I just need to put the tape switch back on.

Let's see your clones, or movie inspired builds.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271079/1000014079_jpg-3168635.JPG
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Parts/accessories list?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 2:54:59 PM EDT
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SBR PSA lower I had
10.5" PSA upper (swapped the receiver out for an A2)
PSA H&R CAR-15 stock
Retro Rifles 3.5" moderator

I didn't know PSA made that TIA upper.


Eta: The optic mount I got off of Amazon. The slim CAR-15 handgaurd I got from Brownells.

Eta: Vortex Crossfire II red dot. Sreamlight ProTac 2.0
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:19:40 PM EDT
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Are the PSA TIA uppers like 14”?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:29:43 PM EDT
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The PSA/H&R TIA upper's barrel length is 10". Prop gun is about 10.3".
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:35:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Great job op
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:42:31 PM EDT
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The PSA/H&R TIA upper's barrel length is 10". Prop gun is about 10.3".
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Yeah I meant OAL with the moderator
Just confirming it’s still NFA length
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:45:59 PM EDT
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Gordon clone upper that is in the safe
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 11:02:58 PM EDT
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Yeah I meant OAL with the moderator
Just confirming it's still NFA length
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Oh yeah, it's still NFA length.

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 11:19:45 PM EDT
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Oh yeah, it's still NFA length.

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Yeah I meant OAL with the moderator
Just confirming it's still NFA length
Oh yeah, it's still NFA length.


I think I’d be much more inclined to do one of it we’re p&w 16”
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 11:30:06 PM EDT
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You're probably looking at something more akin to an XM177 to get a P&W to rifle length.

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 11:39:37 PM EDT
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SBR PSA lower I had
10.5" PSA upper (swapped the receiver out for an A2)
PSA H&R CAR-15 stock
Retro Rifles 3.5" moderator

I didn't know PSA made that TIA upper.


Eta: The optic mount I got off of Amazon. The slim CAR-15 handgaurd I got from Brownells.

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Right on!
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 11:56:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 11:58:32 PM EDT
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I've never seen Blood Diamond.  Is this close?
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I have been looking for those small delta guards. Where did you find them?

@Bravo_Six
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 11:59:53 PM EDT
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I have been looking for those small delta guards. Where did you find them?

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Luth-AR

https://www.luth-ar.com/product/a1-triangular-carbine-handguard/
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 12:33:09 AM EDT
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I think I’d be much more inclined to do one of it we’re p&w 16”
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Check at Kak.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 12:57:25 AM EDT
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Thank you, thank you, thank you
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:06:07 AM EDT
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I have been looking for those small delta guards. Where did you find them?

@Bravo_Six
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I've never seen Blood Diamond.  Is this close?
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I have been looking for those small delta guards. Where did you find them?

@Bravo_Six


@wolfdentd

I believe that I got them from JSE, but I think Fulton Armory and possibly others sell them.  You can Google "triangle carbine handguards" and get a few different options.
Link Posted: 3/29/2024 11:05:27 PM EDT
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For a Blood Diamond rifle?  PSA makes one.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-tia-flash-hider-black.html

It was just some weird tube/muzzle device the prop bros threw on the reused Gary Gordon movie rifle.
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Of course after I spend more than twice that for mine, someone comes out with a cheaper one.
Link Posted: 3/30/2024 1:32:50 AM EDT
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Can anyone point me to a correct looking ring for an aimpoint pro? I have the a set of the cheap ones from primary arms but the cross bolt wont fit the cross slot on the MGW mount I have.
Link Posted: 3/30/2024 2:13:55 AM EDT
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What is the draw to that particular iteration of an AR? Why is it commonly cloned?
Link Posted: 3/30/2024 2:23:56 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/30/2024 10:13:22 AM EDT
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Certain models have a draw because people like a movie, a character in a TV show that had one, it’s like a gun they were issued in the past, or of an era they fancy, etc.


Link Posted: 3/30/2024 10:53:25 AM EDT
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Work in progress

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Can anyone point me to a correct looking ring for an aimpoint pro? I have the a set of the cheap ones from primary arms but the cross bolt wont fit the cross slot on the MGW mount I have.
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I’ve spent hours looking for that ring, and the closest in stock one if can find is an airsoft version, and it’s not an exact copy. I’ve read that Warne made them, I’ve read that the came with Trijicon Tripowers, I’ve read they were from old CompM Aimpoints. All may be true, but what is also true is they’re hard to find.

I ended up buying Leupold rings that are similarly shaped, but there are two of them. I epoxied them together, and used Bondo to hide any line that may still have been apparent. It’s still not perfect, but it soothes my ‘tism until I can find the right ring.

There was a salty M2 on eBay about a week ago with that ring that I considered buying just to get the ring.

Link Posted: 3/30/2024 11:59:05 PM EDT
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It’s a good movie
Carry handles are all the rave in 2024
What’s not to like?
@sizzlin_bacon
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