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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:33:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the comparison of home sizes then vs now? Average price per square foot is higher, too |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:34:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe if they'd stop buying the latest and greatest iPhone every year and a new $100k truck every three years, they'd be able to afford a mortgage. Wait, you’re telling me 2005 Ford Ranger was worth $100k? Damn I only payed $4k for that thing, I’m a got damn genius. Typed on my iPhone 11 that’s somehow still kicking. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:34:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, you're telling me 2005 Ford Ranger was worth $100k? Damn I only payed $4k for that thing, I'm a got damn genius. Typed on my iPhone 11 that's somehow still kicking.  we got robbed, yo! |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:35:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: how old are you? 63 |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:35:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My guidance counselor in '90 said I was nuts to want to join the PD (I had already passed the easy hiring exam) instead of going away to college for 4 years. Federal, state, and city (in that order) government jobs were the golden ticket for a HS kid, and police was the tier one job as you still needed an "in" to get hired. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:35:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "They" were saying the same thing in the 70's, and to a certain extent it was correct. If you weren't born into a trade and apprenticed as a teenager, you went to (in Philly at least) a public Vo-Tech high school with a crap reputation. (although AFAIK, people that were not fuck-ups did manage to successfully get hired into the trades) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep. I graduated HS in 1997. They were pushing that shit HARD in the 90s'. Created a whole stigma about the only people that went to tech school were the druggies and losers and poors. I'm still pissed about that bullshit. "They" were saying the same thing in the 70's, and to a certain extent it was correct. If you weren't born into a trade and apprenticed as a teenager, you went to (in Philly at least) a public Vo-Tech high school with a crap reputation. (although AFAIK, people that were not fuck-ups did manage to successfully get hired into the trades)  |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:36:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup Boomers just shut down a tine house community in my county. They own the big houses, didnt build any, and are now gatekeeping to prevent smaller homes from being built. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Houses are bigger. By code. Boomers changed the laws to outlaw starter sized homes anymore. I built just above the smallest house allowed by law, and my house is 1400 sq feet main level. Can't have them poors having small, cheap houses bringing down the property values for those reverse mortgages! Yup Boomers just shut down a tine house community in my county. They own the big houses, didnt build any, and are now gatekeeping to prevent smaller homes from being built. What county? I'm in a rural area that developers are trying to put up neighborhoods everywhere to push farmers out. I'm far from a boomer but I'm all for the county preventing subdivisions out in the middle of nowhere with no infrastructure. It might seem good in the short term but in the long term it will ruin rural life. The neighboring county, Banks, is one of the most fucked up I can imagine only beating out ours by a small margin. They seem to be approving developments in places with no ability to support the houses or the resulting traffic which is already a huge mess. On top of that their poor management allowed a landfill to move in that stinks up 1/4 of the county depending on which way the wind is blowing. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:36:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: motherfucker. we got robbed, yo! Some days I still miss that truck. Then I remember it was a piece of shit that needed too much damn work to keep it alive. And that kids is why I only buy Honda and Toyota. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:36:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $100k is the new $50k and $50k ain't shit in 2024. try again, hoss. 100k won’t get you into a mansion anymore…but it’s not slumming it either. Unless you’re in a big city, there’s no reason 100k can’t afford you a decent crash pad, a reliable vehicle, food in the fridge, some savings, and some fun money. Especially a single person. Yeah, if you have a family, a second job is going to be needed. No doubt, the amount of disposable income has drastically increased due to multiple generations of poor economic policy, but to say 100k ain’t shit is factually incorrect and hyperbole. I think you’ll find people not making it off 100k have some unrealistic expectations when it comes to lifestyle. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:36:59 AM EDT
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Ever notice that those who complain the most about their lives are the ones who are a bit short on intelligence, and somewhat lazy, and just look to blame others?
I think most Gen Z's are doing fairly well, just like most Boomers did at that time of their lives. To often we don't hear from the Z's that are doing well. I hope that with time and hard work Gen Z will end up one of the greatest generations. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:37:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're dealing with a bit of a rigged game there with the unions though. Not as big of an issue in non-union areas where things like CAD, welding, hvac, electrical, electronics, auto mechanics could get a leg up in high school with a trade school and have up to 3 years experience by the time they graduated. By the time folks were graduating college thats up to 7 years of experience in the workforce with little to know debt depending on if they went and maybe got an associates degree in said trade too. By 1990ish tuition really went off the rails. https://i.imgur.com/J6AkuKS.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yep. I graduated HS in 1997. They were pushing that shit HARD in the 90s'. Created a whole stigma about the only people that went to tech school were the druggies and losers and poors. I'm still pissed about that bullshit. "They" were saying the same thing in the 70's, and to a certain extent it was correct. If you weren't born into a trade and apprenticed as a teenager, you went to (in Philly at least) a public Vo-Tech high school with a crap reputation. (although AFAIK, people that were not fuck-ups did manage to successfully get hired into the trades) https://i.imgur.com/J6AkuKS.png What’s funny is there isn’t any critical thought on where all that money went. If millennials and Gen Z are paying super high tuition rates, someone is getting paid. Most of my professors were a certain demographic…… |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:38:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some days I still miss that truck. Then I remember it was a piece of shit that needed too much damn work to keep it alive. And that kids is why I only buy Honda and Toyota. IYKYK |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:39:20 AM EDT
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These threads are just so pathetic and I lose so much respect for the younger generations when they whine about low paying jobs or not affording a house. I’m Gen X and I’ve been there. I know how hard my parents worked to afford a home and decent cars. I know how hard I’ve had to work when I was younger. It’s called hustle. I think the current twenty somethings have lost it.
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:39:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Houses back in the day only cost 3x to 4x the average salary. Now it's 7x to 8x. The same with cars. Don’t be average. Problem solved. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:39:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 100k won't get you into a mansion anymore but it's not slumming it either. Unless you're in a big city, there's no reason 100k can't afford you a decent crash pad, a reliable vehicle, food in the fridge, some savings, and some fun money. Especially a single person. Yeah, if you have a family, a second job is going to be needed. No doubt, the amount of disposable income has drastically increased due to multiple generations of poor economic policy, but to say 100k ain't shit is factually incorrect and hyperbole. I think you'll find people not making it off 100k have some unrealistic expectations when it comes to lifestyle. you do you, boo. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:41:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's funny is there isn't any critical thought on where all that money went. If millennials and Gen Z are paying super high tuition rates, someone is getting paid. Most of my professors were a certain demographic Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yep. I graduated HS in 1997. They were pushing that shit HARD in the 90s'. Created a whole stigma about the only people that went to tech school were the druggies and losers and poors. I'm still pissed about that bullshit. "They" were saying the same thing in the 70's, and to a certain extent it was correct. If you weren't born into a trade and apprenticed as a teenager, you went to (in Philly at least) a public Vo-Tech high school with a crap reputation. (although AFAIK, people that were not fuck-ups did manage to successfully get hired into the trades) https://i.imgur.com/J6AkuKS.png What's funny is there isn't any critical thought on where all that money went. If millennials and Gen Z are paying super high tuition rates, someone is getting paid. Most of my professors were a certain demographic |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:42:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My guidance counselor in '90 said I was nuts to want to join the PD (I had already passed the easy hiring exam) instead of going away to college for 4 years. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:43:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i'm thinking of bringing in a 1999 70 series land cruiser pickup. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdOCMsiLpo3eawj9hyy8cln-1qvZ3M02lxm3yUXfo_0Q&s IYKYK The only thing that could survive being a mine truck right there. Also apparently the mine I’m at is gonna start using autonomous haul trucks so there go more decent paying jobs. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:44:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the comparison of home sizes then vs now? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 9% interest on a $20k house ($530 monthly on TODAY's money) is still cheaper than "starter homes" today. At the WORST under Carter, 18% gets you $1,085 monthly in today's dollars. AVERAGE home price 1980 is $47k (or $169k in today's dollars). Today it is $420k. What is the comparison of home sizes then vs now? |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:44:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Must be nice for boomers to grow up in a world where you have to be particularly idiotic to not secure a comfortable retirement, if not actual wealth. As a millennial, every time I turn around, the economy takes a shit and wealth is erased. Just get out there, 01 crash. Then 08. Then covid recession. Now massive inflation. Combined with there is no SS for us but yet we have to pay for it , yeah, we don't exactly have it easy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Boomers didn't whine and worked hard to move up and get ahead to afford homes, vehicles, families, etc. The younger generations should be combined and called whiners as they blame everything on others vs. putting in the hard work to get ahead. Must be nice for boomers to grow up in a world where you have to be particularly idiotic to not secure a comfortable retirement, if not actual wealth. As a millennial, every time I turn around, the economy takes a shit and wealth is erased. Just get out there, 01 crash. Then 08. Then covid recession. Now massive inflation. Combined with there is no SS for us but yet we have to pay for it , yeah, we don't exactly have it easy. Really a direct result of your generational (not you personally), and those behind yours, belief in the indoctrination and subsequent voting habits.. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:45:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have to wait until SHTF to throw that switch? Damn I’d do it today for a crisp high five from JLP3 afterwards. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When SHTF and we only have enough wind farm and tesla battery energy to charge our phones to post memes and fuck thots in exchange for a cotton candy THC vape refill and some avacado toast or keep the machines running in the ICU and nursing homes guess which switch we're going to throw? We have to wait until SHTF to throw that switch? Damn I’d do it today for a crisp high five from JLP3 afterwards. Covid broke many of you, SHTF would pretty much end you. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:46:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only thing that could survive being a mine truck right there. Also apparently the mine I'm at is gonna start using autonomous haul trucks so there go more decent paying jobs. 
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:48:00 AM EDT
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While on next door I said that I worked 6 days a week for most of my adult life including while I went to college (as did my father) in order to buy the things I wanted.
Someone had the nerve to call me a racist. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:48:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Covid broke many of you, SHTF would pretty much end you. Doubtful. But keep believing whatever you want. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:48:15 AM EDT
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They blame boomers, their parents, the gov, everyone but their own lazy asses... sad....go back to your basement and wait for your parents to die ( hear this a lot from customers pitching about this because mom and dad won't give them their fortune now).
Hopefully they leave everything to someone else else except for the last box of hot pockets and microwave you can't use under the bridge |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:49:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They blame boomers, their parents, the gov, everyone but their own lazy asses... sad....go back to your basement and wait for your parents to die ( hear this a lot from customers pitching about this because mom and dad won't give them their fortune now). Hopefully they leave everything to someone else else except for the last box of hot pockets and microwave you can't use under the bridge MOAR NACHO CHEESE HOTPOCKETS AND I NEED MOAR MOUNTAIN DEW AND FLUSHABLE WIPES MA THE INTERNET IS MAKING FUN OF ME AGAIN MA |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:49:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get back to me when house loan interest rates are the same as they were under carter. Facile argument. Inflated housing prices plus high interest rates did not exist "under carter". |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:49:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That wealth didn't really get erased. It got temporarily deflated, but if you kept your stocks and kept your house, it came roaring back 500% In fact, that's what caused all the inflation. All my millennial friends are multi-Millionairs now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Boomers didn't whine and worked hard to move up and get ahead to afford homes, vehicles, families, etc. The younger generations should be combined and called whiners as they blame everything on others vs. putting in the hard work to get ahead. Must be nice for boomers to grow up in a world where you have to be particularly idiotic to not secure a comfortable retirement, if not actual wealth. As a millennial, every time I turn around, the economy takes a shit and wealth is erased. Just get out there, 01 crash. Then 08. Then covid recession. Now massive inflation. Combined with there is no SS for us but yet we have to pay for it , yeah, we don't exactly have it easy. That wealth didn't really get erased. It got temporarily deflated, but if you kept your stocks and kept your house, it came roaring back 500% In fact, that's what caused all the inflation. All my millennial friends are multi-Millionairs now. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:50:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With a 12+ percent interest rate, home computers were rare, no cell phones and one TV per household. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Houses back in the day only cost 3x to 4x the average salary. Now it's 7x to 8x. The same with cars. With a 12+ percent interest rate, home computers were rare, no cell phones and one TV per household. A laptop is like $400 and you can snag a big TV for about $500 right now. Figure each will last several years and that's a drop in bucket compared to a mortgage. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:50:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty impressive, really. The oldest millennials in 2007 were about 25, so every single one of the millennials you know managing to turn that recession into multiple millions of dollars at ages ranging 10 to 25 is astounding. you're not the typical billy badass billionaire b**ma MMA fighter tough guy hard case pronstar chef navy squeal GDer who fights the holy war in his shorts and has the harem of hairless below their eyelashes 20 year old yurpean supermodels, broseidon? |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:51:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really a direct result of your generational (not you personally), and those behind yours, belief in the indoctrination and subsequent voting habits.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Boomers didn't whine and worked hard to move up and get ahead to afford homes, vehicles, families, etc. The younger generations should be combined and called whiners as they blame everything on others vs. putting in the hard work to get ahead. Must be nice for boomers to grow up in a world where you have to be particularly idiotic to not secure a comfortable retirement, if not actual wealth. As a millennial, every time I turn around, the economy takes a shit and wealth is erased. Just get out there, 01 crash. Then 08. Then covid recession. Now massive inflation. Combined with there is no SS for us but yet we have to pay for it , yeah, we don't exactly have it easy. Really a direct result of your generational (not you personally), and those behind yours, belief in the indoctrination and subsequent voting habits..  The disconnect here is so amusing.
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:51:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A laptop is like $400 and you can snag a big TV for about $500 right now. Figure each will last several years and that's a drop in bucket compared to a mortgage.
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:53:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The disconnect here is so amusing. all that and dem light brown tiddies.  |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:54:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you're not the typical billy badass billionaire b**ma MMA fighter tough guy hard case pronstar chef navy squeal GDer who fights the holy war in his shorts and has the harem of hairless below their eyelashes 20 year old yurpean supermodels, broseidon? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pretty impressive, really. The oldest millennials in 2007 were about 25, so every single one of the millennials you know managing to turn that recession into multiple millions of dollars at ages ranging 10 to 25 is astounding. you're not the typical billy badass billionaire b**ma MMA fighter tough guy hard case pronstar chef navy squeal GDer who fights the holy war in his shorts and has the harem of hairless below their eyelashes 20 year old yurpean supermodels, broseidon? Schrodinger: ... |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:55:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i'm too tired to math it all out for you. you do you, boo. It’s not because you’re too tired…it’s because you’re wrong. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:56:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Me: is your cat alive, is he ok? Schrodinger: ... dodge the draft (again)? not this time, bubba.  |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:57:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not because you're too tired it's because you're wrong. you can come over to my 1987 toyota van down by the river and fuck my sister. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:58:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: gonna be epic when the typical billy badass billionaire b**ma MMA fighter tough guy hard case pronstar chef navy squeal GDer who fights the holy war in his shorts get drafted first for WWIII. dodge the draft (again)? not this time, bubba. We’re sending them first since apparently all subsequent generations are too weak to get the job done. They can show us how it’s done and we get to decrease our SS and Medicare spending at the same time. Win win. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:59:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you're a funny guy. you can come over to my 1987 toyota van down by the river and fuck my sister. Funny and correct Best of both worlds. I’m married…if I wanted to disappoint two people, I’d just call my parents. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:00:05 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i'm thinking of bringing in a 1999 70 series land cruiser pickup. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdOCMsiLpo3eawj9hyy8cln-1qvZ3M02lxm3yUXfo_0Q&s IYKYK 
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:00:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Houses back in the day only cost 3x to 4x the average salary. Now it's 7x to 8x. The same with cars. And families had stay at home Mom's, so one household has one salary. Today many household have two salaries. 3x to 4x the average salary back in the day just happens to be 3x to 4x TWO average salaries today. The rise of two income households coincidentally matches the increase in average house size. It is unsurprising that single income families might have trouble competing with their two income counterparts. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:01:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We're sending them first since apparently all subsequent generations are too weak to get the job done. They can show us how it's done and we get to decrease our SS and Medicare spending at the same time. Win win.  Attached Filefront lines will be stocked with white new balances and adult diapers and heart meds and so on. let the conscript b**mas be the first wave for WWIII. b**mas may have dodged the draft for nam and smoked weed at woodstock instead of going to kill for merica on top of hill 887. not this time, pal.
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:02:28 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny and correct Best of both worlds. I'm married if I wanted to disappoint two people, I'd just call my parents. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:02:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well the boomers and their idiots parents did nothing to stop 100 million post 1965 invaders from ruining the country. Well the DEMOCRAT boomers and their idiot DEMOCRAT parents did nothing to stop 100 million post 1965 invaders from ruining the country |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:04:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Covid broke many of you, SHTF would pretty much end you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: When SHTF and we only have enough wind farm and tesla battery energy to charge our phones to post memes and fuck thots in exchange for a cotton candy THC vape refill and some avacado toast or keep the machines running in the ICU and nursing homes guess which switch we're going to throw? We have to wait until SHTF to throw that switch? Damn I'd do it today for a crisp high five from JLP3 afterwards. Covid broke many of you, SHTF would pretty much end you. Yeah *we're* the soft ones that will suffer.  |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:04:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All those things only affected millennials? Apparently these economic crashes had no impact on retired boomers. FWIW: I was Born right on the dividing line between the boomers and Generation X. I didn't want to be associated with either group as they both were just as big of cry babies as the Millennials and Generation Z have become today. The more things change the more they stay the same. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:04:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well the DEMOCRAT boomers and their idiot DEMOCRAT parents did nothing to stop 100 million post 1965 invaders from ruining the country Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well the boomers and their idiots parents did nothing to stop 100 million post 1965 invaders from ruining the country. Well the DEMOCRAT boomers and their idiot DEMOCRAT parents did nothing to stop 100 million post 1965 invaders from ruining the country 
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:05:13 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How about taking accountability for your own decisions. GD is fixated on blaming other generations for problems that they place upon themselves. The winning post! |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:05:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Boomertardianism is very lightly repackaged BLM-type race hustling with age replacing race. Blame the entire demographic for your problems Claim the entire demographic conspired and continues to conspire against you via laws and regulations Tell each other that all hope is lost, there is no way to succeed so all of their fellow crabs stay in the bucket They're even dabbling in reparations via confiscation and redistribution of wealth https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/31782/MLM-3091109.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Were they expecting the boomers to sell them their house at a loss? They sound like the BLM types who were lecturing whites to give blacks their houses a few years ago Boomertardianism is very lightly repackaged BLM-type race hustling with age replacing race. Blame the entire demographic for your problems Claim the entire demographic conspired and continues to conspire against you via laws and regulations Tell each other that all hope is lost, there is no way to succeed so all of their fellow crabs stay in the bucket They're even dabbling in reparations via confiscation and redistribution of wealth https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/31782/MLM-3091109.jpg That’s exactly what this is. Tyranny of Low Expectations, on full display. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:05:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And families had stay at home Mom's, so one household has one salary. Today many household have two salaries. 3x to 4x the average salary back in the day just happens to be 3x to 4x TWO average salaries today. The rise of two income households coincidentally matches the increase in average house size. It is unsurprising that single income families might have trouble competing with their two income counterparts. Not really. Median household income 1986: 60,010 Median home price 1986 Q2: 80,700 Median household income 2022: 74,580 Median home price 2022 Q2: 437,700 Source Source |
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