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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:53:19 PM EDT
Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw.
She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? 
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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:54:35 PM EDT
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If you are sitting all day and need to draw while seated would be one reason.
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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:54:36 PM EDT
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? Sitting in a car? |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:54:41 PM EDT
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? Driving. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:55:55 PM EDT
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Why do you hate freedom?
srs, tho - cars |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:55:58 PM EDT
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Car?
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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:56:35 PM EDT
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? Used to be for drawing while in the saddle. Driving makes sense, kinda, unless you have a gut. If your chair doesn't have arms, seated would probably be easier with a standard holster. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:57:00 PM EDT
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Bought the wrong holster, and too cheap to buy a new one?
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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:57:52 PM EDT
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? Could have been taser. They are carried like that so it takes a way different motion to draw them compared to a side arm. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:58:00 PM EDT
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FPNI as well as the following posts...
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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:59:14 PM EDT
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Ergonomics specific to a certain body type?
I can actually see how a cross draw appendix carry on my left could possibly be easier for me to retrieve than my current OWB on my right. (never tried it though) I'll leave it the way it is, but I can see how someone might feel better with it. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:08:54 PM EDT
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If you are sitting all day and need to draw while seated would be one reason. this...I actually have a cross draw holster that is made specifically for long driving trips... |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:11:33 PM EDT
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Sitting in a car? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? Sitting in a car? Bingo |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:12:57 PM EDT
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You arrest a guy and your car has no cage. You put him in the front passenger seat. That way you can protect your gun, and he can't grab it. That's how it used to be done.
Sitting down, shoulder injury, lots of reasons. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:17:46 PM EDT
[#14]
Access to gun while seated in a car.
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:19:32 PM EDT
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? You "seen" a county cop. That's funny. Here's a little extra reading for you: http://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2015/05/massad-ayoobs-appendix-cross-draw-concealed-carry-tips-techniques/ A.W.D. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:20:37 PM EDT
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The deputy wasn't sitting at a desk. She just happened to be at the store I was in. She was carrying this way in the wild
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:21:03 PM EDT
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Because it looks bad ass.
See, when you shoot someone, you gotta pull it out all dramatic like. That's why the pros never carry a loaded round (Israeli Mossad FYI), so you can rack the slide with lots of noise. That tells the dude you're about to waste that you mean business and that guy really fucked up. Don't listen to these panty waist choads that are all "Condition 1" (Whatever that means). Condition 1 is when you're ready to waste a fool no questions asked. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:21:04 PM EDT
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Car.
Also if carrying a revolver with a long barrel. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:21:21 PM EDT
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Could have been taser. They are carried like that so it takes a way different motion to draw them compared to a side arm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? Could have been taser. They are carried like that so it takes a way different motion to draw them compared to a side arm. Not a Taser. Pistola |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:22:21 PM EDT
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Because Joe Friday carried cross draw.
Back in the 50's and to some extent 60's cross draw was quite popular. Both uniform and plain clothes did it. It's very comfortable when sitting at a desk or in a vehicle. When weapon retention started to gain attention it largely went by the wayside. On a side note the Iowa State Patrol used full flap cross draw rigs well into the 90's as did the Michigan State Police. .I own a half a dozen cross rigs at least tho I rarely use them. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:22:25 PM EDT
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I like xdraw, myself. Hunting, it keeps your sidearm from digging scratches into your rifle (which is slung over your right shoulder). It's also harder for gun snatchers. W/ conventional (open) right-hip carry, they come up behind you. With xdraw, they have to come up in FRONT of you (unless they reach around & try to pull it out the front?
 ). Also better retention (specially in a crowd) b/c you can casually rest your left hand on the gun w/o looking threatening... and yet you can actually draw that way with your LEFT hand surprisingly quickly (try it  ).
And that gets to the best part about xdraw; you can draw with EITHER hand. Try reaching across with your left with strong-side carry. Bet you can't do it.  Piece o' baklava w/ xdraw, tho. 
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:23:16 PM EDT
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The deputy wasn't sitting at a desk. She just happened to be at the store I was in. She was carrying this way in the wild did she walk there? or drive there? where would she be most of the day? at a desk maybe?
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:24:25 PM EDT
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If carrying suppressed out in the woods or night scouting, I'll put my holster in a cross draw position. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:25:43 PM EDT
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Because Joe Friday carried cross draw. Back in the 50's and to some extent 60's cross draw was quite popular. Both uniform and plain clothes did it. It's very comfortable when sitting at a desk or in a vehicle. When weapon retention started to gain attention it largely went by the wayside. On a side note the Iowa State Patrol used full flap cross draw rigs well into the 90's as did the Michigan State Police. .I own a half a dozen cross rigs at least tho I rarely use them. training and manner of hand placement can actually make crossdraw easier to retain than standard hip carry especially if the person is behind you...but because you hands have to stay close o the gun and that makes people nervous it is nay slayed to death. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:28:16 PM EDT
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Because it is easier to draw across her fupa, and, get herself shot at the same time. All about efficiency of movements. Duh.
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:29:06 PM EDT
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Up until late 70's or early 80's a lot (maybe most) of Florida Highway patrol officers wore cross draw holster with their issued revolver (mostly 5" S&W model 66, 27, Colt Python 4" and 6").
I always assumed it was because it was easier to draw from cross draw holster when seated in a car. I have a K L Null made Vamp cross draw holster for my J frame revolver that I use on long car trips. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:35:31 PM EDT
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Bought the wrong holster, and too cheap to buy a new one? 
Put a right handed holster on, and then push it all the way around to your left hip. Its still the same holster, just on the opposite side.... FO REALZ? |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:39:41 PM EDT
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Once upon a time, probably before I was born, all the cool kids were doing it. Part of the reasoning was "easier to draw in the car," I guess.
The only one I've seen in the last decade was a Denver PD officer working the airport detail, who wore a revolver crossdraw. Given that he also had a 74- badge number, I think that explains it. Come to think of it, the only other ones I've sen in the wild were Chicago PD, back in the 1990's, who wore revolvers strong-side and semiautos crossdraw. Even then, it was just a few on bicycles at a Grateful Dead concert. I think someone told me that when CPD first got semiauto pistols approved they were only allowed to carry them as an adjunct to the revolvers, thus the crossdraw, but that sounds like too good a story to be true. That being said, I used to wear my backup set up for weak-hand draw on my vest, almost like a tanker rig but under my shirt. I was thinking "If someone grabs for my primary, putting five rounds of .38 into his face will adjust and redirect his thought processes." |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 5:43:06 PM EDT
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If you are sitting all day and need to draw while seated would be one reason. Exactly what I was thinking as I read the OP |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 5:43:58 PM EDT
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Why do people say "I seen"
Nobody knows |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 5:48:43 PM EDT
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Why do people say "I seen" Nobody knows It's past tense for saw
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Posted: 10/5/2016 5:55:42 PM EDT
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This her, OP?
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Posted: 10/5/2016 5:56:48 PM EDT
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If you are sitting all day and need to draw while seated would be one reason. This. Precious few holsters seem designed with the notion that the wearer might sit down at some point. Crossdraw works, but it doesn't conceal particularly well from what I've seen. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 5:57:31 PM EDT
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If you are driving a car in the US where the steering wheels are on the left side of the vehicle then the seatbelt/shoulder belt makes drawing from the right side difficult. It was probably easier to find a cross draw holster than a right side drive police car.
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Posted: 10/5/2016 5:58:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNo, she was a little more frumpy and didn't have a wheel gun |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 5:59:12 PM EDT
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I like xdraw, myself. Hunting, it keeps your sidearm from digging scratches into your rifle (which is slung over your right shoulder). It's also harder for gun snatchers. W/ conventional (open) right-hip carry, they come up behind you. With xdraw, they have to come up in FRONT of you (unless they reach around & try to pull it out the front? ). Also better retention (specially in a crowd) b/c you can casually rest your left hand on the gun w/o looking threatening... and yet you can actually draw that way with your LEFT hand surprisingly quickly (try it ).
And that gets to the best part about xdraw; you can draw with EITHER hand. Try reaching across with your left with strong-side carry. Bet you can't do it. Piece o' baklava w/ xdraw, tho. See people it's this level of knowledge that enables you to take on Eurotrash terrorists, rogue American military elements, even the infiltration specialist brother of one of the guys you killed. Being able to access a defensive weapons with either hand is a very important consideration. You can't always depend on your opponent snapping his neck when you fall down the stairs together or there being a big icicle with reach that you can stab someone in the eye with. Also worth being famialar with the method of carrying a handgun on your back between your shoulder blades. No one expects a guy with his hands behind his head to suddenly start firing a Beretta. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 5:59:43 PM EDT
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That was the trained manner of carry in the st louis metropolitan police department up until sometime in the 70's .. up until the issue of the berettas it was still done by old school guys in dress blues...
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Posted: 10/5/2016 6:05:59 PM EDT
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I carried cross draw for over a decade. For me it was comfortable while driving or sitting and printed less with my fitted T shirts. The downside for me was because of the way the rear sights would press against my shirts when seated would chew holes in my shirts.
I carry strong side now inside the waist. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 6:35:41 PM EDT
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Because it looks bad ass. See, when you shoot someone, you gotta pull it out all dramatic like. That's why the pros never carry a loaded round (Israeli Mossad FYI), so you can rack the slide with lots of noise. That tells the dude you're about to waste that you mean business and that guy really fucked up. Don't listen to these panty waist choads that are all "Condition 1" (Whatever that means). Condition 1 is when you're ready to waste a fool no questions asked. I haven't seen "choad" used in years. You made me lol |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 6:45:53 PM EDT
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I carry cross draw IWB. Bring it.
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Posted: 10/5/2016 6:46:16 PM EDT
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Because Chuck Norris does. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 6:47:31 PM EDT
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2 words: Bat Masterson. Look up the old TV show
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Posted: 10/5/2016 6:49:38 PM EDT
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Definitely for driving, and specifically for road rage incidents. When you are in a road rage situation, you become very cross; hence you will want to cross draw your firearm.
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Posted: 10/5/2016 6:50:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because Joe Friday carried cross draw. Back in the 50's and to some extent 60's cross draw was quite popular. Both uniform and plain clothes did it. It's very comfortable when sitting at a desk or in a vehicle. When weapon retention started to gain attention it largely went by the wayside. On a side note the Iowa State Patrol used full flap cross draw rigs well into the 90's as did the Michigan State Police. .I own a half a dozen cross rigs at least tho I rarely use them. he was one of the very last few to still be authorized to carry cross draw My friend said his dad nursed and cared for that holster like it was his child because when it failed he couldn't get another , and the cross draw was an old school badge of honor with the handful of old guys left in the 80s |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 6:54:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHubba hubba! |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 7:00:11 PM EDT
[#46]
FPNI.
And Walker, Texas Ranger. But you need a stainless Taurus 92 for that. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 7:36:04 PM EDT
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This. Precious few holsters seem designed with the notion that the wearer might sit down at some point. Crossdraw works, but it doesn't conceal particularly well from what I've seen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are sitting all day and need to draw while seated would be one reason. This. Precious few holsters seem designed with the notion that the wearer might sit down at some point. Crossdraw works, but it doesn't conceal particularly well from what I've seen. When I first started carrying, it was either OWB crossdraw or shoulder. Either could be worn under an open jacket and easily reached, whether standing or sitting. Either could be gotten at with either hand. Of course, we weren't all tier 1 tactical toms back then. It was about having a pistol ready and accessible. I quit the crossdraw because it stuck out too far (revolver), and would 'flash' if the jacket swung too far open. These days, I'm much more tactical, and wear an expensive IWB composite at 4 o'clock. Where that shitty crossdraw forced me to reach across my gut with only an arm movement, even sitting or driving, my new cool guy rig allows me to torque my whole upper body around dramatically in order to get a good firing grip. Unless I'm wearing a jacket and sitting or driving, in which case, I either take it out or forget about hauling it when needed. Bullshit aside, there are valid reasons for crossdraw or it wouldn't have lasted 100+ years as a carry position. We tend to forget in these uber-tacticool days that people were carrying and killing with old school guns and holsters for a very long time before our modern methods retconned them all into being useless. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 7:46:58 PM EDT
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Driving. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? Driving. This. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 8:18:01 PM EDT
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I prefer cross draw for handguns with barrels longer than 5 inches, and would have no problem carrying one of any length that way.
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Posted: 10/5/2016 8:19:04 PM EDT
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And Chuck Norris carried crossdraw in earlier "Walker, Texas Ranger" shows. And in the movie where he rose from the dead in his buried truck.
Paladin |
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