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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:24:16 PM EDT
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Loughlin's husband donated to Rubio and Romney. Diane Blake to Romney, and a couple of others to Republican Leadership PAC. The majority are liberal donors. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:24:21 PM EDT
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Loughlin's husband donated to Rubio and Romney. Diane Blake to Romney, and a couple of others to Republican Leadership PAC. The majority are liberal donors. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:25:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So being a Tennis coach at a public university in a job being subsidized by the taxpayer and accepting $60k in cash in a parking garage in exchange for offering a "Books scholarship" to some kid who doesn't play tennis is "capitalism"? |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:26:21 PM EDT
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The real travesty about college admissions is that people can reap huge financial and academic benefits by being of a certain minority or economic class.
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:33:02 PM EDT
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Lol at the rich smug liberal pieces of shit soon to be prohibited persons.
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:35:21 PM EDT
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This strikes me as a political ploy. They were charged with mail/wire fraud. Here are the elements. (1) that the defendant voluntarily and intentionally devised or participated in a scheme to defraud another out of money; (2) that the defendant did so with the intent to defraud; (3) that it was reasonably foreseeable that interstate wire communications would be used; and (4) that interstate wire communications were in fact used United States v. Profit, 49 F.3d 404, 406 n. 1 (8th Cir.) (citing Manual of Model Criminal Jury Instructions for the District Courts of the Eighth Circuit 6.18.1341 (West 1994)), cert. denied, 115 S.Ct. 2289 (1995). https://www.justice.gov/jm/criminal-resource-manual-941-18-usc-1343-elements-wire-fraud But here, the individuals charged are the ones doing the paying. Even in the case of the guy who got the $1 scholarship, he paid far more in bribes to the university to do so. Without pecuniary loss, there is no fraud. Some of these individuals may get loved tenderly by the IRS, but I don't see this sticking. To me, this is either being done because: (a) they are prominent people and someone with connections wants to take them down a notch; or (b) the U.S. Attorney for Massachusetts has political ambitions and wants the headline of having "fixed" college cheating and "charged people with felonies." 
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:39:32 PM EDT
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This isn't only a problem with one particular party affiliation or another. It's simply the way the world works. We act shocked when certain individuals are used as an example. But this is the way the world has worked, and the way it will work in the future. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Loughlin's husband donated to Rubio and Romney. Diane Blake to Romney, and a couple of others to Republican Leadership PAC. The majority are liberal donors. They would have let in Hayak's grand kids if they had the cash. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:41:44 PM EDT
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This isn't only a problem with one particular party affiliation or another. It's simply the way the world works. We act shocked when certain individuals are used as an example. But this is the way the world has worked, and the way it will work in the future. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Loughlin's husband donated to Rubio and Romney. Diane Blake to Romney, and a couple of others to Republican Leadership PAC. The majority are liberal donors. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:41:51 PM EDT
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Stanford fires sailing coach 'who was paid $110,000 to get a student into college who chose to go elsewhere - then was offered $500,000 for ANOTHER fake athlete who didn't even end up applying'
John Vandemoer, now former head sailing coach at Stanford, arrives at federal court in Boston on Tuesday to plead guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit racketeering. 
According to his indictment, Vandemoer (pictured left with his wife and son) accepted a total of $270,000 to recommend two prospective students for admission. 
Picture shows Vandemoer's modest home in Palo Alto, California More |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:45:26 PM EDT
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There are almost no “private” colleges For those that think the laws don’t apply to “private” colleges From the article “ I once estimated all the various government benefits received by so-called private Princeton University were vastly greater (at least 10 times as much per student) than those conferred on a so-called public or state university, the College of New Jersey, located a mere 10 miles away. Is the public/private distinction meaningful in any real sense?” When people start parsing through every dollar like that, it's usually out of a desire for control. By and large, federal homogenization. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:46:06 PM EDT
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Stanford fires sailing coach 'who was paid $110,000 to get a student into college who chose to go elsewhere - then was offered $500,000 for ANOTHER fake athlete who didn't even end up applying' https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/12/20/10902052-6801275-image-a-29_1552424144411.jpg John Vandemoer, now former head sailing coach at Stanford, arrives at federal court in Boston on Tuesday to plead guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit racketeering. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/12/21/10902606-6801275-image-m-44_1552424459863.jpg According to his indictment, Vandemoer (pictured left with his wife and son) accepted a total of $270,000 to recommend two prospective students for admission. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/12/20/10902610-6801275-image-a-37_1552424338982.jpg Picture shows Vandemoer's modest home in Palo Alto, California More 
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:47:03 PM EDT
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Is this how AOC got into BU?
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:47:07 PM EDT
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Did they lie about Indian heritage on their admissions forms to get in? I hear it works great for woman at Harvard. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:51:47 PM EDT
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Stanford fires sailing coach 'who was paid $110,000 to get a student into college who chose to go elsewhere - then was offered $500,000 for ANOTHER fake athlete who didn't even end up applying' https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/12/20/10902052-6801275-image-a-29_1552424144411.jpg John Vandemoer, now former head sailing coach at Stanford, arrives at federal court in Boston on Tuesday to plead guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit racketeering. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/12/21/10902606-6801275-image-m-44_1552424459863.jpg According to his indictment, Vandemoer (pictured left with his wife and son) accepted a total of $270,000 to recommend two prospective students for admission. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/12/20/10902610-6801275-image-a-37_1552424338982.jpg Picture shows Vandemoer's modest home in Palo Alto, California More |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:52:06 PM EDT
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So being a Tennis coach at a public university in a job being subsidized by the taxpayer and accepting $60k in cash in a parking garage in exchange for offering a "Books scholarship" to some kid who doesn't play tennis is "capitalism"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is capitalism and I have no problem with it. Maybe, just maybe - if there were no government subsidies, these colleges would actually have to compete, instead of the government imposing itself as the de-facto admissions department. If a system is already corrupt, I don't see the value in federally prosecuting select few petty process crimes that surround that system while doing everything possible to avoid shining the light on the entire broken process as a whole. This is swatting at flies around a pile of dog shit, while doing everything possible to pretend that the dog shit isn't there. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:52:17 PM EDT
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https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/12/20/10902610-6801275-image-a-37_1552424338982.jpg Picture shows Vandemoer's modest home in Palo Alto, California More |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:52:48 PM EDT
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Is this how AOC got into BU? |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:54:53 PM EDT
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All of this shit is petty process crimes wrapped around the simple fact that people gave money to a college for their kids to attend. Maybe, just maybe - if there were no government subsidies, these colleges would actually have to compete, instead of the government imposing itself as the de-facto admissions department. If a system is already corrupt, I don't see the value in federally prosecuting select few petty process crimes that surround that system while doing everything possible to avoid shining the light on the entire broken process as a whole. This is swatting at flies around a pile of dog shit, while doing everything possible to pretend that the dog shit isn't there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is capitalism and I have no problem with it. Maybe, just maybe - if there were no government subsidies, these colleges would actually have to compete, instead of the government imposing itself as the de-facto admissions department. If a system is already corrupt, I don't see the value in federally prosecuting select few petty process crimes that surround that system while doing everything possible to avoid shining the light on the entire broken process as a whole. This is swatting at flies around a pile of dog shit, while doing everything possible to pretend that the dog shit isn't there. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:00:13 PM EDT
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Loughlin's husband donated to Rubio and Romney. Diane Blake to Romney, and a couple of others to Republican Leadership PAC. The majority are liberal donors. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Except they won’t report it like that. Rich white liberals are using this an example of why socialism and free education is needed. Fucking hypocrites. Exact thing happens when Democrats demand gun control after a Democrat shoots up a place. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:00:29 PM EDT
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Eh. As a tax payer I'm a little annoyed that the perps used their bribes as a tax deduction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is capitalism and I have no problem with it. Maybe, just maybe - if there were no government subsidies, these colleges would actually have to compete, instead of the government imposing itself as the de-facto admissions department. If a system is already corrupt, I don't see the value in federally prosecuting select few petty process crimes that surround that system while doing everything possible to avoid shining the light on the entire broken process as a whole. This is swatting at flies around a pile of dog shit, while doing everything possible to pretend that the dog shit isn't there. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:04:59 PM EDT
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As a tax payer, I'm a little annoyed that beneficiaries of affirmative action do not have to pay income tax on their massive financial benefit. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:10:21 PM EDT
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None of these people will see the inside of a prison. Maybe the ringleader but the "Actresses and CEO's" will live through this without going to prison. Justice is only for Just Us.
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:17:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure the US Attorneys Office neglected to prove all the elements of mail fraud when they charged the defendants with mail fraud. It just slipped their minds.
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:19:26 PM EDT
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All of this shit is petty process crimes wrapped around the simple fact that people gave money to a college for their kids to attend. 
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:20:18 PM EDT
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The Loughlin daughters must be dumber than a rubber doorstop based on the social media posts and the fact that it cost them $500k just to get into USC.
Well, at least they are hot so there's that...
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:23:44 PM EDT
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The Loughlin daughters must be dumber than a rubber doorstop based on the social media posts and the fact that it cost them $500k just to get into USC. Well, at least they are hot so there's that...Money Connections This is a speed bump. There's probably a ghost written book somewhere in here, and some talk show gigs. They'll be fine. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:25:07 PM EDT
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The Loughlin daughters must be dumber than a rubber doorstop based on the social media posts and the fact that it cost them $500k just to get into USC. Well, at least they are hot so there's that...
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:33:31 PM EDT
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Translation: OMG! As if the government would ever do anything wrong or unethical! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I'm sure the US Attorneys Office neglected to prove all the elements of mail fraud when they charged the defendants with mail fraud. It just slipped their minds. For your silly theory to be right the DOJ would have had to have just completely forgotten to establish all of the elements of the criminal code violation and then a federal judge read the case agent's affidavit and completely missed that the government failed to establish probable cause that a crime was committed. Brilliant theory. Just brilliant. Just because you are looking at the mail fraud statue like one of those monkeys from the beginning of 2001: A Space Odyssey doesn't mean nobody else understands it. But hey - if you're finally right about something related to criminal law then this case will quickly end with the first Motion to Dismiss, right? Make sure to me know when that happens. lol |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:43:17 PM EDT
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Who lost something of pecuniary value? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Scheming and defrauding a fake charity while using your bribe as a write-off is never a good idea. 
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:44:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:45:28 PM EDT
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Even for publicly supported, state colleges, the amount of direct, annual funds from the state amount to about 15% of operating budget. The schools are only partially state funded, with most of the annual operating budget being covered by student fees. Nor are these schools genuinely public. Nor should they be. When people start parsing through every dollar like that, it's usually out of a desire for control. By and large, federal homogenization. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are almost no “private” colleges For those that think the laws don’t apply to “private” colleges From the article “ I once estimated all the various government benefits received by so-called private Princeton University were vastly greater (at least 10 times as much per student) than those conferred on a so-called public or state university, the College of New Jersey, located a mere 10 miles away. Is the public/private distinction meaningful in any real sense?” When people start parsing through every dollar like that, it's usually out of a desire for control. By and large, federal homogenization. GI bill Federal student loans Federal grants. When they hook to that federal tit it comes with a price |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 8:48:40 PM EDT
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So being a Tennis coach at a public university in a job being subsidized by the taxpayer and accepting $60k in cash in a parking garage in exchange for offering a "Books scholarship" to some kid who doesn't play tennis is "capitalism"? |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:05:09 PM EDT
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FBI uncovered the massive, nationwide college fraud scheme by ACCIDENT while working an unrelated undercover operation
The FBI reportedly uncovered the bombshell college admissions bribery scandal by accident while working on an unrelated undercover operation. Officials say the sprawling, nationwide corruption probe dubbed Operation Varsity Blues was sparked when someone being interviewed for an unrelated case tipped authorities off. More |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:12:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:15:05 PM EDT
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Lol at the rich smug liberal pieces of shit soon to be prohibited persons. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:15:14 PM EDT
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Add In the GI bill Federal student loans Federal grants. When they hook to that federal tit it comes with a price Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are almost no “private” colleges For those that think the laws don’t apply to “private” colleges From the article “ I once estimated all the various government benefits received by so-called private Princeton University were vastly greater (at least 10 times as much per student) than those conferred on a so-called public or state university, the College of New Jersey, located a mere 10 miles away. Is the public/private distinction meaningful in any real sense?” When people start parsing through every dollar like that, it's usually out of a desire for control. By and large, federal homogenization. GI bill Federal student loans Federal grants. When they hook to that federal tit it comes with a price |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:16:48 PM EDT
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Funny stuff. This is probably the tip of the iceberg.
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:17:01 PM EDT
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Pre-trial diversion is still an option. No conviction if satisfactorily completed. Depends on how punitive the US attorneys office wants to be. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol at the rich smug liberal pieces of shit soon to be prohibited persons.
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:18:11 PM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwwn280UkAE-gMf.jpg 
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:18:54 PM EDT
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Funny stuff. This is probably the tip of the iceberg. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:20:11 PM EDT
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Not enough hate in this post. Come on, man, live a little. I hope someone Sends Her an Angel |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:22:20 PM EDT
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I guess I didn’t know that USC was an elite school to be mentioned in the same sentence with Stanford. It only cost my parents a postage stamp for me to go to Arkansas, such as it is.
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:25:48 PM EDT
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Lori Loughlin has deleted all her social media and is flying from Canada to Los Angeles to turn herself in after being charged in massive college admissions scandal after it was revealed she paid $500,000 to get her daughters into USC
The couple allegedly paid the half-million dollar sum to get their daughters into the school, which Giannulli graduated from in 1987, as fake rowing recruits. Neither daughter participated in crew. Sources said that FBI agents arrived at Loughlin's home on Tuesday morning, only to find out she was in Vancouver. They took Giannulli in custody. Giannulli's bond was set at $1million, forcing him to put the family's primary residence up as collateral to guarantee the bond. The designer also had to surrender his passport to the court, according to Variety. More 
William 'Rick' Singer, 58, (above leaving court) pleaded guilty in Boston federal court on Tuesday to charges including racketeering conspiracy and obstruction of justice 
Just weeks before the alleged scheme came crashing down, Singer put his six-bedroom mansion in Newport Beach (above) on the market for $2.6 million 
Singer was charged with running the largest college admissions fraud scam in U.S. history through his small college preparation company in Newport Beach, California More |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:26:07 PM EDT
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So just how do you think so many of the rich and powerful families get their spawn into Harvard and Yale? Not all of them are born geniuses. This isn't something new but it has been awhile.
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:28:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More like: You have no idea how any of this works, as usual. For your silly theory to be right the DOJ would have had to have just completely forgotten to establish all of the elements of the criminal code violation and then a federal judge read the case agent's affidavit and completely missed that the government failed to establish probable cause that a crime was committed. Brilliant theory. Just brilliant. Just because you are looking at the mail fraud statue like one of those monkeys from the beginning of 2001: A Space Odyssey doesn't mean nobody else understands it. But hey - if you're finally right about something related to criminal law then this case will quickly end with the first Motion to Dismiss, right? Make sure to me know when that happens. lol |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:36:15 PM EDT
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Lori Loughlin has deleted all her social media and is flying from Canada to Los Angeles to turn herself in after being charged in massive college admissions scandal after it was revealed she paid $500,000 to get her daughters into USC The couple allegedly paid the half-million dollar sum to get their daughters into the school, which Giannulli graduated from in 1987, as fake rowing recruits. Neither daughter participated in crew. Sources said that FBI agents arrived at Loughlin's home on Tuesday morning, only to find out she was in Vancouver. They took Giannulli in custody. Giannulli's bond was set at $1million, forcing him to put the family's primary residence up as collateral to guarantee the bond. The designer also had to surrender his passport to the court, according to Variety. More https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/12/20/10900964-6800929-image-a-22_1552424013540.jpg William 'Rick' Singer, 58, (above leaving court) pleaded guilty in Boston federal court on Tuesday to charges including racketeering conspiracy and obstruction of justice https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/12/20/10899632-6800929-image-a-32_1552424145038.jpg Just weeks before the alleged scheme came crashing down, Singer put his six-bedroom mansion in Newport Beach (above) on the market for $2.6 million https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/12/21/10904982-6800929-image-a-34_1552425838058.jpg Singer was charged with running the largest college admissions fraud scam in U.S. history through his small college preparation company in Newport Beach, California More Damn. There are murderers that didn't even get a bond that high. |
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:36:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dammit! I've just been asking the female applicants to show me their boobs ... I never even thought about asking for money. I am such a n00b  
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:41:46 PM EDT
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I wonder how much of that shit goes on in the world of “private college admissions counselor/consultants”.
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Posted: 3/12/2019 9:46:53 PM EDT
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Lori Loughlin has deleted all her social media and is flying from Canada to Los Angeles to turn herself in after being charged in massive college admissions scandal after it was revealed she paid $500,000 to get her daughters into USC The couple allegedly paid the half-million dollar sum to get their daughters into the school, which Giannulli graduated from in 1987, as fake rowing recruits. Neither daughter participated in crew. Sources said that FBI agents arrived at Loughlin's home on Tuesday morning, only to find out she was in Vancouver. They took Giannulli in custody. Giannulli's bond was set at $1million, forcing him to put the family's primary residence up as collateral to guarantee the bond. The designer also had to surrender his passport to the court, according to Variety. More
William 'Rick' Singer, 58, (above leaving court) pleaded guilty in Boston federal court on Tuesday to charges including racketeering conspiracy and obstruction of justice
Just weeks before the alleged scheme came crashing down, Singer put his six-bedroom mansion in Newport Beach (above) on the market for $2.6 million
Singer was charged with running the largest college admissions fraud scam in U.S. history through his small college preparation company in Newport Beach, California More https://www.facebook.com/loriloughlin/ |
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