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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:05:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do "tier 1" "operators" come to competition shooters to learn to shoot? Answer: Because those competition shooters know more about shooting and generally have higher round counts. Tactics and shooting are two separate skillets with a bit of overlap, and most "operators" don't get enough trigger time because they have many other skill sets that are also important. I am sorry, but the fact is that Eric (and his admirable reputation) has been around a while, and so have squared trigger guards. Yet, there has been no tectonic shift among the majority of those who earn a paycheck shooting to adopt Eric's use of that forward hold in the 10+ years he has had his notoriety. I contend that Eric's style works for Eric, for whatever reason, but is not something that will work for most shooters who are serious about their firearm skills. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:09:38 PM EDT
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Glock switches.
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:10:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 550 cord pull loops on magazine base plates. Don’t forget that old fighting position, post raid, post ambush tactics- In the days when you were expected to have the same seven magazines for 87 years, Pre dump bag fad you had a snap link on your LCE you put your empty magazine on with that loop. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:11:40 PM EDT
[#4]
45 ACP
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:13:58 PM EDT
[#5]
The dinner pic when we had rules. To include the stapler.
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:16:49 PM EDT
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As for the Glock 19 “fad”
If you were around 35 years or so ago and used to a 1911 A1, Beretta 92/M9, P226, etc. And picked up a G19 for the first time- That had the same capacity/firepower as the later two, and was so much smaller than each of them- It was impressive and revolutionary. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:19:20 PM EDT
[#7]
Shower guns.
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:29:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do "tier 1" "operators" come to competition shooters to learn to shoot? Answer: Because those competition shooters know more about shooting and generally have higher round counts. Tactics and shooting are two separate skillets with a bit of overlap, and most "operators" don't get enough trigger time because they have many other skill sets that are also important. It’s still a shitty practice. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:30:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think many in here actually understand what a fad is..... To me it's something that is everywhere and popular then one day it's totally gone. Like pet rocks. Lot of stuff mentioned here has been super popular at one time and still around just not super popular item of the week/month/year anymore. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:32:30 PM EDT
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Old timers will remember “National Match” everything.
Slightly less old timers will remember NM being replaced with “Tactical”. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:35:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shower guns. It’s your funeral, bro |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:39:33 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He’s on about technology. The P365 series is the Atlantic Ocean and the G19 is the Titan sub. It’s happened so quickly the G19 doesn’t even know it’s crushed.  The P365 is likely to be out of production long before the G19 is. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:41:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat's why every fuckin pistol has a factory optics ready version, professional entities keep buying and issuing them, and more RDSs enter the market every year, eh? Dying fad? |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:42:31 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People saying red dots are - frankly; fucking retards. Here's one - people that said red dots on rifles were a fad. This. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:44:03 PM EDT
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From OP's list, I still have, use, and do the following:
.40 S&W Quad rails VFGs Mag disconnect (my S&W Autos and Hi-Power have them) DA/SA Snubs/Revolvers .45 GAP .41 Magnum Bullpups Lasers Two-tone pistols Slide mounted safeties G19 Colt AR's Grip-pods Redi-mags Co-witnessing into a totally cluttered sight picture Micro pistols ARMS gear Hogue squishy rubber grip and Handall Serpa holsters Quad rail covers Single point slings Mag couplers Armor plates and tactical carrier Helmets HBAR ARs Tyler T-Grip 9mm Shoulder holsters Carry handles on firearms that aren't MGs CZ's (my edit to the list, CZ rifles only) 10mm 30 caliber "battle rifle" Red ramp front sights on revolvers M4forgery "Take a carbine course noob" Tube handguards for Ars Load bearing vests Scout rifle 3 gun Glazer bullets Barrel porting Clipdraw XS big dot pistol sights |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:49:01 PM EDT
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Fad or not, 10mm is the best automatic handgun caliber.
 Seems more popular than ever compared to, say, 20 years ago.It was pointed out before, many times, this is hardly a list of fads. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 5:52:01 PM EDT
[#17]
Jesus, some of yall don't know what a fad is.
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Posted: 6/25/2023 6:01:56 PM EDT
[#18]
Nut N Fancy?
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Posted: 6/25/2023 6:14:29 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nut N Fancy? Was going to add him. His hour-long videos are definitely not as popular anymore. He also doesn't seem to publish much anymore. I kind of wonder what direction his sons ended up going. They've got to be what, late teens, early 20's at this point? |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 6:51:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jesus, some of yall don't know what a fad is. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 6:58:21 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The P365 is likely to be out of production long before the G19 is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He’s on about technology. The P365 series is the Atlantic Ocean and the G19 is the Titan sub. It’s happened so quickly the G19 doesn’t even know it’s crushed. The P365 is likely to be out of production long before the G19 is. That’s true |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:00:12 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: People saying red dots are - frankly; fucking retards. Here's one - people that said red dots on rifles were a fad. This. Red dots on rifles is losing ground to the LPVO. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:05:16 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Red dots on rifles is losing ground to the LPVO. what's wrong with both? |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:13:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weight lifting gloves for shooting gloves. Meh, still look better than isotoners with the fingertips cut off. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:14:13 PM EDT
[#25]
1911’s
Derringers M1 carbines |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:15:26 PM EDT
[#26]
1911’s
Derringers M1 carbines |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:19:13 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Red dots on rifles is losing ground to the LPVO. No - it isn't. If it were - your LGS wouldn't have 10 million flavors of Holosun. The only thing losing ground are Iron Sight rifles (and pistols - for that matter) |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:19:56 PM EDT
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"Combat shotguns." About 10 years ago they were everywhere. I think govt restrictions took out the Russian ones but all the clones of those never seemed to catch on and were clearances priced in the end.
KSG was a big deal when announced, it was shit. Those Saiga converted shotguns were a pretty hot item for awhile. Then Russia imported alot of them, I think they were branded Molot. I had one and quickly sold it. Was pointless imo. The 8 round stick mags stuck out of the gun almost a foot. The drums were heavy as shit. Gun looked sweet but I would rather have a real AK in a rifle caliber. Really what's the point of a shotgun anymore in this role? Watching those Ukraine videos and some.of the police videos lately the AR drops people pretty fast. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:20:29 PM EDT
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Colt AR's, mk18's and DA/SA are a fad?
Who's list is this? |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:34:14 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh, still look better than isotoners with the fingertips cut off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Weight lifting gloves for shooting gloves. Meh, still look better than isotoners with the fingertips cut off. And they breathe allot better as well! |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:39:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No - it isn't. If it were - your LGS wouldn't have 10 million flavors of Holosun. The only thing losing ground are Iron Sight rifles (and pistols - for that matter) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Red dots on rifles is losing ground to the LPVO. No - it isn't. If it were - your LGS wouldn't have 10 million flavors of Holosun. The only thing losing ground are Iron Sight rifles (and pistols - for that matter) Most people chose a RDS because it’s cheaper. If every new rifle came with a choice of a free Aimpoint T2 or a Vortex Razer only those who own NVGs would chose the RDS |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:45:22 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Combat shotguns." About 10 years ago they were everywhere. I think govt restrictions took out the Russian ones but all the clones of those never seemed to catch on and were clearances priced in the end. KSG was a big deal when announced, it was shit. Those Saiga converted shotguns were a pretty hot item for awhile. Then Russia imported alot of them, I think they were branded Molot. I had one and quickly sold it. Was pointless imo. The 8 round stick mags stuck out of the gun almost a foot. The drums were heavy as shit. Gun looked sweet but I would rather have a real AK in a rifle caliber. Really what's the point of a shotgun anymore in this role? Watching those Ukraine videos and some.of the police videos lately the AR drops people pretty fast. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:57:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most people chose a RDS because it’s cheaper. If every new rifle came with a choice of a free Aimpoint T2 or a Vortex Razer only those who own NVGs would chose the RDS Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Red dots on rifles is losing ground to the LPVO. No - it isn't. If it were - your LGS wouldn't have 10 million flavors of Holosun. The only thing losing ground are Iron Sight rifles (and pistols - for that matter) Most people chose a RDS because it’s cheaper. If every new rifle came with a choice of a free Aimpoint T2 or a Vortex Razer only those who own NVGs would chose the RDS I like LPVO’s too but that’s a pretty bold statement. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 7:59:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like LPVO's too but that's a pretty bold statement. Considering how cheap some of the LPVO's are in the budget game - I agree. LPVO's aren't replacing anything. Just another tool in the box. What they might be replacing are guys that previously would have used 3x9's |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 8:02:42 PM EDT
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This list is ridiculous lol.
Anything an individual changed their mind on doesn’t mean it was a fad lol |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 8:03:20 PM EDT
[#36]
Has anyone mentioned the chicken wing shooting stance?
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Posted: 6/25/2023 8:10:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Scanning after shooting by turning a complete circle.
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Posted: 6/25/2023 8:12:18 PM EDT
[#38]
FPSRussia
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Posted: 6/25/2023 8:12:30 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1911’s M1 carbines you go to hell. you go to hell and you die! p.s. both those "fads" killed lots of people that needed killing |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 8:14:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FPSRussia Instructor Zero |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 8:35:17 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Eh, maybe. It probably felt like a fad if you’re under a certain age given it was the premier American duty and CCW caliber for about a quarter century. I have a feeling it’ll hang around a while simply due to the sheer number of guns and rounds cranked out since 1990. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .40 S&W  Eh, maybe. It probably felt like a fad if you’re under a certain age given it was the premier American duty and CCW caliber for about a quarter century. I have a feeling it’ll hang around a while simply due to the sheer number of guns and rounds cranked out since 1990. I work for the largest police department in TN and we are still issued Sig Sauer P229r in .40 S&W. There doesn't seem to be any intention or reason to follow the crowd to 9mm. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 8:55:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most people chose a RDS because it’s cheaper. If every new rifle came with a choice of a free Aimpoint T2 or a Vortex Razer only those who own NVGs would chose the RDS  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 8:59:49 PM EDT
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I'm 34 and wasn't allowed to have handguns of my own when living with my parents. I remember around the time when I first started buying handguns and training at 21 there was this weird fad that people would aggressively look left and right with such head and neck movements involved that I thought they would induce some type of injury.
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Posted: 6/25/2023 9:01:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm 34 and wasn't allowed to have handguns of my own when living with my parents. I remember around the time when I first started buying handguns and training at 21 there was this weird fad that people would aggressively look left and right with such head and neck movements involved that I thought they would induce some type of injury. That evolved into turning a complete circle to scan 360°. Hopefully both practices are dead now. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 9:04:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don’t direct your ire towards me, wag your finger at Glock for needlessly bulky mags that require a larger grip while reducing capacity when compared against more contemporary designs. I don't even like Glocks and I agree with this point, but neither the 19 nor compact pistols are fads. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 9:06:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't even like Glocks and I agree with this point, but neither the 19 nor compact pistols are fads. Same. I don’t like Glocks subjectively but if someone asked me to outfit an entire military with handguns I’d just say “G19’s for everyone”. It does everything you need a handgun to do well. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 9:07:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That evolved into turning a complete circle to scan 360°. Hopefully both practices are dead now. Only one company really taught the 360 degree circle thing. IMO, looking (actually looking, not just moving your head) is a useful thing to teach less experienced shooters and is something that I incorporate in some of my classes. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 9:09:33 PM EDT
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Half the list isn’t even fads. People can’t ever follow directions.
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Posted: 6/25/2023 9:09:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only one company really taught the 360 degree circle thing. IMO, looking (actually looking, not just moving your head) is a useful thing to teach less experienced shooters and is something that I incorporate in some of my classes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That evolved into turning a complete circle to scan 360°. Hopefully both practices are dead now. Only one company really taught the 360 degree circle thing. IMO, looking (actually looking, not just moving your head) is a useful thing to teach less experienced shooters and is something that I incorporate in some of my classes. Purposeful scanning is one thing. Slinging your head around quickly is another though. |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 9:15:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Purposeful scanning is one thing. Slinging your head around quickly is another though. People rarely differentiate the two, but both tend to be viewed as equally useless |
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