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Quoted: I did edit it, hours ago. Starting is $20 with 0 experience, but sounds like they're bumping it to $24 and 20% across the board. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: People will keep showing up to this thread and responding to the OP before they dig through 10 pages, if they ever do.. why not edit it lol? So what is the actual pay scale for your wife's company today? I did edit it, hours ago. Starting is $20 with 0 experience, but sounds like they're bumping it to $24 and 20% across the board. So ... the company based on feedback from GD has decided to raise their wages below par for a starting welder? ALL within the time frame of a single thread? Does the fleet of company vehicles sound like clown cars or ice cream trucks when they drive around? |
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Quoted: The last full time welding / fab job I had.. (7 years ago) $46.50 hour 8 hours standard time 2 hours OT every day. Weekends 10 hours OT. holidays double time. 401k match, full medical vision and dental 100% covered. Decent pension. 3 weeks paid vacation a year $400 boots and $1,000 tools per year. (Even with all needed tools and PPE supplied by company) $100 day per diem when traveling. View Quote Nice, what were you working on? |
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Quoted: I'm not a welder dumbass. And my "career path" is both early days and weird enough that it isn't much use to compare with others. I'm just a rusty economics geek who is capable of seeing the world around them occasionally. But FWIW: $40/hr, Software Architecture. Before that was a $16/hr effectively-an-apprenticeship. View Quote So you're making less than these guys per year. Got it cool. |
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Quoted: @C-4 I made $18/hr building coffins on C shift for morning delivery in 1997-9. My customers never complained. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Gas stations are paying $15/hr to do essentially nothing. Unemployment was $18/hr. And you expect qualified folks to take $13? @FLchuck8 Why do you hate capitalism? I made $18/hr building coffins on C shift for morning delivery in 1997-9. My customers never complained. |
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Quoted: Quoted: That's literally $16.50 per hour in Ohio with your cost of living, That's fucking terrible. You can make more than that at Arby's here. If a $35 job in Ohio was transferred to Washington it would become a $70 an hour job. https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/columbus-oh/seattle-wa/30000 arby's. Aka thinly sliced rat. |
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Quoted: Me too in maintenance. Somebodys full o shit View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I work almost exclusively in pharma. Safety Manager for a GC that builds clean rooms in both existing facilities and greenfield projects. I have never seen the requirements you mention for construction. Never. Me too in maintenance. Somebodys full o shit Little lies become bigger lies. |
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Quoted: 5 weeks vs 260 days? do that math again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: One week a year less vacation is absolutely "way worse." I'd give up a dollar an hour for a week of vacation if those were the two job options given . 5 weeks vs 260 days? do that math again. Your wife's company sucks and needs to pay more. Simple as that. |
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Quoted: Ok that's 32.5 days vs 28 or 33 days. He's also making the equivalent of $16.50 in Ohio. https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/columbus-oh/seattle-wa/30000 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: Ok that's 32.5 days vs 28 or 33 days. He's also making the equivalent of $16.50 in Ohio. https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/columbus-oh/seattle-wa/30000 View Quote John Hiatt - All The Lilacs In Ohio |
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Quoted: Let's just say on multimillion dollar jobs the priority is not hiding Bobby's fingernails. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How would they know if he was wearing gloves? Gloves that shed material in the product as well. Does the client require welders to not wear gloves? Let's just say on multimillion dollar jobs the priority is not hiding Bobby's fingernails. You don't even know the nomenclature of the industry in question how do you have any idea what the priorities are? As a wise journeyman once told me, never put your initials on your stuff. They can't layoff the guy who forgot his crescent wrench if they can't find out who it was. |
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Quoted: Let's just say on multimillion dollar jobs the priority is not hiding Bobby's fingernails. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How would they know if he was wearing gloves? Gloves that shed material in the product as well. Does the client require welders to not wear gloves? Let's just say on multimillion dollar jobs the priority is not hiding Bobby's fingernails. As I stated earlier on this page. I work almost exclusively in pharma. I have NEVER seen the requirements you have mentioned for construction. Never. |
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Quoted: I don't live in Seattle View Quote Forget it; he's rollin. |
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Quoted: You keep talking like a company that supplies it's own job materials is some sort of benefit to the worker. Read your own first post. It wasn't appealing to the worker and was so poorly written everyone thinks you are paying $13.00/hr now instead of $20.00. View Quote I never considered starting wages seriously because I never in my life made them for more than month or 2. Starting wage too me is not important, if you're good you won't be starting for long. Max wage is always what I worried about. So sorry for confusing everyone with a 10 year old story to prove they don't pay based on seniority. Obviously it's GD and you post anything long or short, detailed or not and it will look like 3,000 different posts are being responded to. Someone worried about starting wage to me doesn't expect much out of themselves. Every great employee I ever interviewed in my job asked one question. How much can I make when I'm good at the job. I guess the commies here want a guaranteed minimum for being to shit at work. |
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Holy Hell this thread has gone sideways . Yet OP keeps doubling down .
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Quoted: Holy Hell this thread has gone sideways . Yet OP keeps doubling down . View Quote |
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Quoted: Nope. According to op there’s only firing your employees or telling the customer to fuck off. None of that middle-of-the-road stuff here. Also, apparently he and the wife are perfect for each other. View Quote It's not my company, not my say. I imagine you have 0.000% dealing with any type of job that 200 people's families rely on for survival. Because you don't go and work for 6 months to get a 10 million dollar job and then said thanks for the job mr customer, let's get down to business. Bobby over there likes to paint his nails. We notice the government and yourself say that's not allowed here. So we need to make a plan to keep Bobby working. Can you tell the government to fuck off? No? Ok bye Bobby. What kind of woke bullshit are you on. If you had any experience working any industrial job you wouldn't ask such a silly question. It only shows your lack of knowledge. |
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Rate too low, yearly equiptment allowance isn't even close to being 5 miles from the ballpark let alone in it.
If you offered me $35 an hour for just labor on bench work with zero material costs in my own shop. Id literally laugh out loud and ask if you were serious. |
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Quoted: Sounds like you have it all figured out. Not sure why you need anyone. Spots should all be filled. View Quote I don't need it figured out. Wife obviously doesn't network with a bunch of tradesmen from similar or other trades. Yes until you voted for Biden because of MUH BUMPSTOCK everything was great. Seeing what is going on out there and showing some gumption and pounding the streets to find out what others are dealing with. |
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Quoted: It's not my company, not my say. I imagine you have 0.000% dealing with any type of job that 200 people's families rely on for survival. Because you don't go and work for 6 months to get a 10 million dollar job and then said thanks for the job mr customer, let's get down to business. Bobby over there likes to paint his nails. We notice the government and yourself say that's not allowed here. So we need to make a plan to keep Bobby working. Can you tell the government to fuck off? No? Ok bye Bobby. What kind of woke bullshit are you on. If you had any experience working any industrial job you wouldn't ask such a silly question. It only shows your lack of knowledge. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Nope. According to op there's only firing your employees or telling the customer to fuck off. None of that middle-of-the-road stuff here. Also, apparently he and the wife are perfect for each other. It's not my company, not my say. I imagine you have 0.000% dealing with any type of job that 200 people's families rely on for survival. Because you don't go and work for 6 months to get a 10 million dollar job and then said thanks for the job mr customer, let's get down to business. Bobby over there likes to paint his nails. We notice the government and yourself say that's not allowed here. So we need to make a plan to keep Bobby working. Can you tell the government to fuck off? No? Ok bye Bobby. What kind of woke bullshit are you on. If you had any experience working any industrial job you wouldn't ask such a silly question. It only shows your lack of knowledge. Please OP provide the government reference to their ban on men wearing nail polish on job sites. Please. |
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Quoted: It's not my company, not my say. I imagine you have 0.000% dealing with any type of job that 200 people's families rely on for survival. Because you don't go and work for 6 months to get a 10 million dollar job and then said thanks for the job mr customer, let's get down to business. Bobby over there likes to paint his nails. We notice the government and yourself say that's not allowed here. So we need to make a plan to keep Bobby working. Can you tell the government to fuck off? No? Ok bye Bobby. What kind of woke bullshit are you on. If you had any experience working any industrial job you wouldn't ask such a silly question. It only shows your lack of knowledge. View Quote Weird… because at least two people in this very thread that work in the same industry say that policy is bullshit…. |
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Quoted: I don't need it figured out. Wife obviously doesn't network with a bunch of tradesmen from similar or other trades. Yes until you voted for Biden because of MUH BUMPSTOCK everything was great. Seeing what is going on out there and showing some gumption and pounding the streets to find out what others are dealing with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like you have it all figured out. Not sure why you need anyone. Spots should all be filled. I don't need it figured out. Wife obviously doesn't network with a bunch of tradesmen from similar or other trades. Yes until you voted for Biden because of MUH BUMPSTOCK everything was great. Seeing what is going on out there and showing some gumption and pounding the streets to find out what others are dealing with. Pics of wife to see if we should include her in the network? |
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Quoted: And yet I still make far more in pay and benefits. Your "wife's" company's sounds like hell. View Quote Your pay in WA = 16.50 in OH. You don't even make more than someone starting out with 0 experience here at $20. You have 4.5 extra vacation days if you earn them and Jay Inslee doesn't shut your company down for Covid. I think most guys would take a starting wage $3.50 more per hour and 4 weeks of vacation over 16.50 and 32.5 possible days. https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/columbus-oh/seattle-wa/30000 |
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Quoted: Your pay in WA = 16.50 in OH. You don't even make more than someone starting out with 0 experience here at $20. You have 4.5 extra vacation days if you earn them and Jay Inslee doesn't shut your company down for Covid. I think most guys would take a starting wage $3.50 more per hour and 4 weeks of vacation over 16.50 and 32.5 possible days. https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/columbus-oh/seattle-wa/30000 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: And yet I still make far more in pay and benefits. Your "wife's" company's sounds like hell. Your pay in WA = 16.50 in OH. You don't even make more than someone starting out with 0 experience here at $20. You have 4.5 extra vacation days if you earn them and Jay Inslee doesn't shut your company down for Covid. I think most guys would take a starting wage $3.50 more per hour and 4 weeks of vacation over 16.50 and 32.5 possible days. https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/columbus-oh/seattle-wa/30000 |
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Quoted: I work almost exclusively in pharma. Safety Manager for a GC that builds clean rooms in both existing facilities and greenfield projects. I have never seen the requirements you mention for construction. Never. View Quote You build clean rooms and leave? You're not working anywhere in Pharma with something that can fall into product in a live production facility. I'm assuming you build off site and fully assemble and leave. Are you working in areas with current production running? |
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Quoted: I didn't have the heart to tell him that I make more than $35 an hour...but in all honestly I am underpaid for my profession and years of experience. That by the average salary for my situation, I should be making more, but for a bunch of small reasons about my company that I like, I am ok with it. I am afraid he will stroke out. View Quote There's this thing called overtime that you salaried workers may not be familiar with. |
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Quoted: Your pay in WA = 16.50 in OH. You don't even make more than someone starting out with 0 experience here at $20. You have 4.5 extra vacation days if you earn them and Jay Inslee doesn't shut your company down for Covid. I think most guys would take a starting wage $3.50 more per hour and 4 weeks of vacation over 16.50 and 32.5 possible days. https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/columbus-oh/seattle-wa/30000 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: And yet I still make far more in pay and benefits. Your "wife's" company's sounds like hell. Your pay in WA = 16.50 in OH. You don't even make more than someone starting out with 0 experience here at $20. You have 4.5 extra vacation days if you earn them and Jay Inslee doesn't shut your company down for Covid. I think most guys would take a starting wage $3.50 more per hour and 4 weeks of vacation over 16.50 and 32.5 possible days. https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/columbus-oh/seattle-wa/30000 Yeah .. so many tradesmen are probably living in Seattle proper. Maybe look at the bedroom communities like Tacoma. Do you think the tradesmen in NYC live in downtown Manhattan as well? Don't be obtuse OP. https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/columbus-oh/tacoma-wa/30000 |
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Quoted: You build clean rooms and leave? You're not working anywhere in Pharma with something that can fall into product in a live production facility. I'm assuming you build off site and fully assemble and leave. Are you working in areas with current production running? View Quote You like arguing with people who actually do the work you think you know about. But please continue, it’s fun to watch. |
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Quoted: $20/hr for a welder still won't get one, not even in my area. And we save money by shacking up with cousins. If the $100 a year is only meant to cover boots, then that was thought up by somebody who has never spent 8hrs or more a day in a pair of work boots. I know that people that build things are in a lower social-economic class than office people but shit, we still like to go home not all crippled up at the end of the day. View Quote Well boot allowance seems near and dear to everyones hearts. I'm definitely telling wifey to up that shit since it seems to have huge importance. |
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Quoted: There's this thing called overtime that you salaried workers may not be familiar with. View Quote Guy, you asked. The bottom line is that this company is having problems with new hires, because they aren't offering enough compensation. Do what that information whatever you want. |
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Quoted: Well boot allowance seems near and dear to everyones hearts. I'm definitely telling wifey to up that shit since it seems to have huge importance. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: $20/hr for a welder still won't get one, not even in my area. And we save money by shacking up with cousins. If the $100 a year is only meant to cover boots, then that was thought up by somebody who has never spent 8hrs or more a day in a pair of work boots. I know that people that build things are in a lower social-economic class than office people but shit, we still like to go home not all crippled up at the end of the day. Well boot allowance seems near and dear to everyones hearts. I'm definitely telling wifey to up that shit since it seems to have huge importance. |
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