Mark as troll, from the start.

It’s quite clear he wasn’t really looking to learn, just complain that it’s not 1994 anymore.

Up to $35 an hour max,  fair promotions.  One guy started at $13  and within a year was at $25 because he learned so much so fast.  *EDIT*  10 years ago ,not a seniority based job.

5 paid sick days per year after 90 days

3 weeks vacation + 5 PTO after 1 year
4 weeks after 15 years

I company I worked for paid that 18 years ago....

When your company is not welding??

I thought it was your wife's company.

If the place you work for also hires Welders, then why don't you compare what your company pays welders to what your wife's pays?

And you never answered my previous question, and now someone else asked it and not answered. Why is HR or Payroll not doing national and state pay comparisons? Why is a company making changes to pay scale and benefits on a Saturday night on the information from an employee's spouse asking a random message board??

Private sector doesn't pay anywhere near what .Gov does?   You are a special one.

Last time I welded anything for pay was some aluminum bus panels, $225 an hour was the going rate and that was 15 or 20 yrs ago.

I love it when people try to sell overtime as some kind of employee benefit. It's so fucking silly.

That little gem right there. I've been through this as a job seeker ten~ years ago. They are being to picky.

Especially when it's mandatory like the guy with the Fed Ex job thread.

I can tell you why as a welder whose getting 17.25 with all those same bennies.

I and everyone else who gets paid around the same as I am know were being underpaid and were not happy about it and I work in a shop. I wouldn't step foot in a truck to weld offsite for less then 35 to start.

The cost of living is lower where I live which is the only reason I have stayed the 6 months I have been where I'm at. I learned fast and now I'm doing stuff guys who have been there years can't do. I can also tell you this, when I go for my review I'm not settling for less then the 2.00 raise, plus the % inflation rate this year I was robbed of.

Rig or offsite welders are not going to come for 35 an hour period. I know most of the qualified applicants that have tested in laugh at the offer that's made to them by my company. Instead they are hiring at 15-17 an hour starting, a bunch of fresh out of school kids who can't weld worth a fuck, don't show up and have no interest in learning shit. They can't read prints, don't know how to fit at all and frankly need a lot of hand holding.

They are also loosing guys who have welded there for 3-5 years because they are pissed when some new guy who can't do shit is starting at the same thing they make, and no efforts to increase comp have been made.

I can tell you this. When minimum wage kicks up to 15 the trades are going to be savaged. Right now one kid on 3rd is making about 1.75 more then a sheetz (gas station) cashier and is doing 10x the work during his 8 hour day.

If they don't want to pay the reasonable increase I request then I'll stay long enough to land at the next shop thats willing to pay what I want. And if they balk at increasing my pay to match inflation with a raise, or new hires with less experience get paid more, then I'll keep it trucking to the next place. And if I find that no one wants to pay for good work, then I'll hang my hood and go back to school and get out of this grind permanently.

Eventually companies are going to realize that you can't offer the skilled worker 2000's era wages and expect them to stay. It won't work anymore.

Here's some of my work if you think I'm being cocky or whatever.



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You just lost whatever is your argument.

Especially when it's mandatory OT..............

When you start to see that crop up where you work, you just need to understand your management are totally incompetent and are ''peter principal'' level that will never change.

I'd work until 65 [I do like my job most days] save for on call and we are so short we can't even fill 2 months a year of it now. And we HAVE to have on call because of state requirements. It is a 100% upper management failure and none of them will take any blame for their incompetence. 30+ years of on call will totally destroy your REM sleep for the rest of your life guaranteed.

I'm gone at 62 when the company stops dumping into my pension [maxes out at 61] and I will qualify for early SS. Between early SS and the pension, I shouldn't even have to touch my other $$$$ for at least a decade unless inflation stays where it is now and I'll have enough monthly income to do what I would like to do.

And kiddies, divorce WILL set back your retirement dates, 2 even more. Always remember that your retirement is HER retirement too. [or his for the gals though that is far less common]

I had one job where the plant manager said that he wasn't going to give rate increases that year because the company was so busy that my whole department had been working 5 to 10 hours of OT every week. He said that the OT counted as a rate increase.  

We all found other employment within 6 months of that. The company ended up in bankruptcy. All the guys that I worked with are now making twice as much money and are much happier.

amazing

My teenage son is wanting to go into the trades, after reading the GD posts and looking at US averages of trade workers I really hope he follows in my footsteps and gets a job with uncle sugar when he is young.

Ah, the old ''penny wise, pound foolish'' management style. Amazing how many of those exist in the business world.

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They're paying pharma equipment welders $35/hr and still have employees?  Mind blown.

Well I'm salaried but the technicians are hourly. One time I traveled with one and found out that he was paid from when he left his house until he was in the hotel.  He got overtime for sitting in an airplane to fly half way around the world while I got shit.

There is NO WAY it is THIS easy. ‘Everything you need’ is determined by the guy paying for it and telling to boss ‘welder is on the fritz’ every week and your truck makes enough noise to get a NEW one.

I am willing to do it for 65$ per hour.

When can I start?

When I hear “there’s all the OT you could want!” I translate that too “we’re constantly short staffed so everyone has to work a LOT more than 40 hours a week”.

However, OT during surges is nice.  I’m a sajatird employee, and I’m compensated for any significant time over 40.

Good to see this thread went the typical direction.

It is amazing how tone deaf even Fortune 100 companies are.
Back in the 90's my company was hiring people off the street at 2-3
dollars more per hour than some of the 5-10 year employees that
hadn't maxed the pay scale yet.

The screaming at upper management was pretty fucking epic during
workgroup meetings.

It's even better when management doubles down and threatens employees
for talking about how much they make. LOL...heck today with the internet
it takes like 30 seconds to find a post from an employee stating exactly
how they make per hour and how much they work per year....

Yeah, OT isn’t a benefit no matter how it’s wrapped. It’s like saying “Hey, you can save a buck by digging your own grave”.

ETA: I want to do as little as possible while making as much as possible. The more I do, the more I want. Just like “you, you, and you”.

ETAx2: I’m not there to make your company money. I’m there to make me money. The fact I make “you” money is why “you” keep paying me to come back.