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Quoted: How does it work if someone moved to California, and has some icky guns ? View Quote There are 2 ways, first is to fill out paperwork and pay (at the time it was 35$ per firearm) and register the guns Second is covered buy the "Shut your fucking mouth" clause of the second amendment |
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Geez OP, it might have been cheaper to move to another state, buy the pistol, then move back.
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Quoted: Move to a free state. I know. Which one is that exactly? G'head...make me a list. I've heard it before, ya' know -- I've been around - I've seen things... in GD for a few years, so that's not the point of this thread... View Quote N.J. ain't no picnic either. I'd deal with the CA hassles in exchange for the nice weather any day. Plus, CA has pre-ban guns/magazine and tons of places to shoot. |
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Quoted: There are 2 ways, first is to fill out paperwork and pay (at the time it was 35$ per firearm) and register the guns Second is covered buy the "Shut your fucking mouth" clause of the second amendment View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How does it work if someone moved to California, and has some icky guns ? There are 2 ways, first is to fill out paperwork and pay (at the time it was 35$ per firearm) and register the guns Second is covered buy the "Shut your fucking mouth" clause of the second amendment It’s a flat fee of $19 regardless of how many firearms it is now. |
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Shit, there's a Glock 19X on GB right now sitting at $2,000 (25 bids placed) before tax, DROS, or FSC and the auction still has four days on it. Why? CA transferable.
This fucking state. |
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Quoted: Shit, there's a Glock 19X on GB right now sitting at $2,000 (25 bids placed) before tax, DROS, or FSC and the auction still has four days on it. Why? CA transferable. This fucking state. View Quote I think only Gen 1 are gtg in California, may be wrong. So a Gen 1 new would be 500 bucks. same gun not Gen 1 is exotic. |
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Quoted: I think only Gen 1 are gtg in California, may be wrong. So a Gen 1 new would be 500 bucks new. same gun not Gen 1 is exotic. View Quote Actually only Gen3 is GTG for new purchase by non-LEO. Gen 1 and 2 are not on the list, nor is 4, 5, X, etc. Gen 1 and 2 are also not being made, so there aren't any new purchases, anyway. |
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Quoted: I think only Gen 1 are gtg in California, may be wrong. So a Gen 1 new would be 500 bucks. same gun not Gen 1 is exotic. View Quote pretty sure it's good corrected above...thanks |
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Am I understanding correctly if I a Texas resident have say a used Glock 19X. I couldn’t legally sell it to you and ship it to your FFL? The second hand market comes from CA cops selling non-roster icky guns?
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Quoted: Am I understanding correctly if I a resident have say a used Glock 19X. I couldn’t legally sell it to you and ship it to your FFL? The second hand market comes from CA cops selling non-roster icky guns? View Quote Face-to-face or consignment only. Seller and buyer have to physically show up at a dealer at the same time, or the seller has to consign with the dealer and then the registration can only be performed at the dealer where it was consigned. Didn't see your state. You as a TX resident can't sell directly to a CA resident, you could only send it to a dealer. The dealer can't treat it as a private party transfer (PPT) because those are only allowed between CA residents. |
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Quoted: Am I understanding correctly if I a Texas resident have say a used Glock 19X. I couldn't legally sell it to you and ship it to your FFL? The second hand market comes from CA cops selling non-roster icky guns? View Quote off roster pistols have to be transferred in PPT (face to face) transactions through an FFL...with both parties present and with proper documentation. |
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Quoted: In Texas it takes longer to fill out the yellow form than to make the purchase. I want that one. *Hands carry license and cash. Fill out yellow form Have a nice day. 10 minutes top. View Quote I've filled out so many of these that the form takes about 45 seconds to fill out. I spend more time shooting the shit with the guys behind the counter than anything. Oh and I'm glad you got a check for being a "Patriot", those of us who make too much on our IRS returns to receive such funds I guess aren't patriotic enough |
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Quoted: How does it work if someone moved to California, and has some icky guns ? View Quote Depends on the kind of icky involved. For the average person, a firearm that meets the Ca definitions of assault weapons can't be legally imported. Handguns that aren't "assault weapons" but just aren't on the "Roster" can be brought in by a new resident. And since they are now legally in the state, can be transferred with no problems (beyond the regular PITA). Note that there is a requirement to "report" ownership of firearms you bring into the state. While they pretend this is not registration, they lie. Ramifications? Not sure if limited to failing to report. A handgun not recorded by the state can't be put on a CCW. Likewise, (This quote is in context of new resident owner reporting, not a general statement about all of California, all the time, etc.) "There is no firearm registration requirement in California except for assault weapon owners and personal handgun importers. However, you must submit a Firearm Ownership Report (FOR) Application (BOF 4542A), pdf to the California Department of Justice (the Department) for any firearm you are seeking return where no other record is on file with the Department identifying you as the most recent owner/possessor. Having a FOR application on file with the Department will authorize the return of your firearm in the event it is subsequently lost or stolen." There are also some ramifications when it comes to concealed carry, and some vehicle carry situations if not properly containered/locked, etc. |
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Quoted: off roster pistols have to be transferred in PPT (face to face) transactions through an FFL...with both parties present and with proper documentation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Am I understanding correctly if I a Texas resident have say a used Glock 19X. I couldn't legally sell it to you and ship it to your FFL? The second hand market comes from CA cops selling non-roster icky guns? off roster pistols have to be transferred in PPT (face to face) transactions through an FFL...with both parties present and with proper documentation. Baby steps by fucking gun grabbers |
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So glad I moved.
Background checks on ammo now too... ETA: You need to make friends with a cop n get what you want. |
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Quoted: I've filled out so many of these that the form takes about 45 seconds to fill out. I spend more time shooting the shit with the guys behind the counter than anything. Oh and I'm glad you got a check for being a "Patriot", those of us who make too much on our IRS returns to receive such funds I guess aren't patriotic enough View Quote |
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I bought a non-Legion 229 with Short Reset Trigger kit and E2 grips second hand for $550 in Feb.
Sorry about CA OP. My state is probably not that far behind VA. |
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Quoted: The 4473 was once yellow.. https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/BATF_Form_4473a.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In Texas it takes longer to fill out the yellow form than to make the purchase. I want that one. *Hands carry license and cash. Fill out yellow form Have a nice day. 10 minutes top. Yellow form? The 4473 was once yellow.. https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/BATF_Form_4473a.png I know, was just wondering if you’ve purchased a gun in the last 15 years or so |
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Quoted: What happens if your 5 year “safety certificate” expires? View Quote You have to renew before you can acquire another firearm. If you're not buying, it has no effect. ETA: for a fun history lesson, it started as the Basic Firearms Safety Certificate, you paid once, took one test, and it was good forever. That doesn't raise very much money, does it? So then it became the Handgun Safety Certificate, and that was good for 5 years, then you needed to renew, but it was only for Handgun purchases. A couple years back it became the Firearms Safety Certificate, and applies for all firearms purchases, same 5 year expiration. |
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good score OP
on a different note when I see sights on guns like these I always think of the colt python threads where people try to argue modern cnc is just as good as hand fitting. My VP9 sights sit with a space on them also. Attached File Cool gun, though. People should always be mindful CA is the beta test for the rest of the states. |
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Sig. lol. I wouldn't pay $2000.00 for it if it came with lips
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Nice pistol OP that pistol retails for around $1400 where can you buy it nib for $839?
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At least the pistol is worth what OP paid (in CA). I doubt CA will un-commie any time soon and start supporting the Bill of Rights again.
Everything is relative. I love CA, most beautiful State imho. I learned to shoot in CA, where my dad still lives. I spent all my summers there with him in L.A. When I was a kid, he would take me to the Beverly Hills Gun Club (was not actually in BH) and we would rent different guns and shoot. My dad hated shooting and doesn't like guns but did it for me. I bought him a revolver a few years later just so he would have something. He was glad for it during the Rodney King riots... The first gun I bought was in NJ in the 80's. What a fucking hassle that was. Basically like NFA, having to get the Chief of police of my Town to sign off on it... |
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Quoted: On moving or brown nosing the kings men? ETA: You should sell all your guns at super inflated retard/California prices... then move to a more free state and buy a machine gun. View Quote did you sleep underground last week? California successfully fought off the ammo background check law....then it freedom got squashed again a day later. It's under review....but we still expect a much drawn out win. |
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Quoted: good score OP on a different note when I see sights on guns like these I always think of the colt python threads where people try to argue modern cnc is just as good as hand fitting. My VP9 sights sit with a space on them also. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123940/sights_1_-_Copy_JPG-1392819.JPG Cool gun, though. People should always be mindful CA is the beta test for the rest of the states. View Quote thought that was for cocking? |
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