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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:34:34 PM EDT
I was at the range today zeroing BMR 60. I was zeroing it at 25 meters because a 25 meter zero will get you close at 200.
Shooting next to me was a guy with a Tavor. He had an scope mounted on the Tavor and he was shooting grapefruit sized groups at 25 meters. My iron-sighted Garand groups were much better. And just for fun I fired my Anschutz .222 at the same target. With the Anschutz, I had a five shot group with one large hole. As I was leaving, I showed Mr Dope, a .222 round and he went off on a long harangue about bench rest shooters. I just shook my head and left. I honestly think that a talented baseball pitcher could achieve a better group at 25 meters than Mr Dope with his Tavor. Picture of the range today. 
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:35:29 PM EDT
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Well being Canadian it's always a high percentage
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:36:53 PM EDT
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You obviously were not operating on his dynamic level, bro.
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:39:01 PM EDT
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you must not go to the range much,,,there's ALWAYS an idiot there, somewhere,,,,,
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:39:06 PM EDT
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Is that a public or private range? Nice looking range
Some of those berms look to be 500 ,600 yards? |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:43:11 PM EDT
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Shouldn’t there be an apostrophe in “members guests”?
The guests belong to the member hence “member’s guests” would be correct but “member’s guest” would be more appropriate because you’re limited to a single guest per member but I guess you’re dealing with a plurality of members too so I get lost at that point. Can you shoot prone and in other positions or are you forced to use the benches? |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:43:49 PM EDT
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I've found that a lot of shooters really are just happy to blow off ammo and if they're hitting the target at all then they're happy. to each their own I suppose.
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:45:14 PM EDT
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Is that a public or private range? Nice looking range Some of those berms look to be 500 ,600 yards? The range is also being expanded to beyond 1000. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:45:46 PM EDT
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I was expecting a much better tale.
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:46:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Shouldn’t there be an apostrophe in “members guests”? The guests belong to the member hence “member’s guests” would be correct but “member’s guest” would be more appropriate because you’re limited to a single guest per member but I guess you’re dealing with a plurality of members too so I get lost at that point. Can you shoot prone and in other positions or are you forced to use the benches? You can shoot in any position you want. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:46:30 PM EDT
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Why not just mind your own business? Instead you tried to show boat tight groups.......at 25m? Lol
You are right there was an idiot at the range.......doesn’t sound like it was the guy with the tavor |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:46:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:48:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a 500 meter range, but there's also a shooting tower that's not in the picture. And from the tower, you can shoot to a 1000 meters. The range is also being expanded to beyond 1000. 
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:50:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI could poke holes in a target from home with a pencil and post them 
I like seeing pics of the range. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:50:33 PM EDT
[#14]
Here's the clubhouse...
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:50:49 PM EDT
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I was expecting a much better tale. Some of you must live miserable lives that you have nothing better to do but walk around worrying what other people are doing everyday. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:51:59 PM EDT
[#16]
*Tavour
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:52:43 PM EDT
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Why not just mind your own business? Instead you tried to show boat tight groups.......at 25m? Lol You are right there was an idiot at the range.......doesn’t sound like it was the guy with the tavor You also can't read. I showed him a .222 round NOT a target. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:53:41 PM EDT
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Yeah this was a pretty fucking stupid story. Hurr durr muh WWII guns are moar accurized then that stupid jew gun, hurr durr. Some of you must live miserable lives that you have nothing better to do but walk around worrying what other people are doing everyday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was expecting a much better tale. Some of you must live miserable lives that you have nothing better to do but walk around worrying what other people are doing everyday.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:54:47 PM EDT
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Did he have his Tavor locked into a lead sled, or was he actually enjoying himself and putting rounds on target in an expedient manner?
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah this was a pretty fucking stupid story. Hurr durr muh WWII guns are moar accurized then that stupid jew gun, hurr durr. Some of you must live miserable lives that you have nothing better to do but walk around worrying what other people are doing everyday. 
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:57:30 PM EDT
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Did he have his Tavor locked into a lead sled, or was he actually enjoying himself and putting rounds on target in an expedient manner? 
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:57:43 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 5:57:48 PM EDT
[#23]
You should have asked him if you could shoot his tavor then humiliated his ass with it.
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:01:10 PM EDT
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Did he have his Tavor locked into a lead sled, or was he actually enjoying himself and putting rounds on target in an expedient manner? But the full extent of his idiocy needs to be carefully explained. I showed him a .222 round and he said that he heard that it was an accurate caliber. I replied that Gale McMillan set a world bench rest record with the .222 back in 1973. Then the little twerp went full retard by saying that bench rest shooters aren't real shooters etc. I didn't answer him. I just walked away and left him to wallow in stupidity and ignorance. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:01:43 PM EDT
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Was at a 100 meter outdoor range, test firing a USGI M16A2 kit build I had completed recently. I put about 300 rounds of LC through it fast, and for giggles decided to see what sort of groups I could get with it at 100.
The guy in the next lane was shooting an HK bolt action and going on to his buddy about what a bargain his $2000 Night Force scope was, and how he paid more to have it mounted than that redneck spent on hisAR (he pointed at me, he didn't think I could hear him). Time came to check targets, his group would have been OK for 10gauge birdshot. My groups were damned good for irons on surplus parts, about an inch and a half including flyers. Big mouths buddy asked him why I had kept my bullets so close together. Dude got huffy, packed his shit and left. As he was packing I told him it looked like something went wrong when he mounted the scope. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:03:01 PM EDT
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You must be the grammar gauleiter. You can shoot in any position you want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shouldn’t there be an apostrophe in “members guests”? The guests belong to the member hence “member’s guests” would be correct but “member’s guest” would be more appropriate because you’re limited to a single guest per member but I guess you’re dealing with a plurality of members too so I get lost at that point. Can you shoot prone and in other positions or are you forced to use the benches? You can shoot in any position you want. Sounds like an awesome range. I’m jealous. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:05:20 PM EDT
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I was expecting a much better tale. Here's the thread: 
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:05:52 PM EDT
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Sounds like the guy was just blasting having fun. Apparently that makes one an idiot to the garand of the month fudd club. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did he have his Tavor locked into a lead sled, or was he actually enjoying himself and putting rounds on target in an expedient manner? Actually, if he had been less of a fool, I would have asked him to let me try the Tavor out. It looks interesting. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:08:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's an idiot because he disparaged Gale McMillan, who was one of the all-time greats. Actually, if he had been less of a fool, I would have asked him to let me try the Tavor out. It looks interesting. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:09:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:09:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's an idiot because he disparaged Gale McMillan, who was one of the all-time greats. Actually, if he had been less of a fool, I would have asked him to let me try the Tavor out. It looks interesting. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:10:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't know. But the full extent of his idiocy needs to be carefully explained. I showed him a .222 round and he said that he heard that it was an accurate caliber. I replied that Gale McMillan set a world bench rest record with the .222 back in 1973. Then the little twerp went full retard by saying that bench rest shooters aren't real shooters etc. I didn't answer him. I just walked away and left him to wallow in stupidity and ignorance. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:11:30 PM EDT
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Sounds like fluffy was acting like a fudd and bothering someone by showing off his toys.
Typical old man at the range behavior. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:11:56 PM EDT
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I don't worry about other people's targets anymore. I'm no pro but when I go to the range I definitely shoot better than 95% of the people there. As long as they're on paper I'm happy. Honestly most of them are probably just happy to make noise and be on paper too. I'm shooting for me, not to impress some stranger next to me.
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:12:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe cat's out of the bag.
That meme is going to get milked for all its worth.. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:13:11 PM EDT
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Let me get this right..
Op watches his shooting neighbor. Noticed he doesn't get the same groupings as a bench rester. proceeds to insult his shooting neighbor by bragging how even his ancient firearm is better then him shooting a new rifle. Comes onto Arfcom hoping to find other accuracy snobs. Ops shooting neighbor continues to practice with his firearm and have a good time without jackassery bothering him anymore. Sound about right? 
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:13:25 PM EDT
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Fluffy,
Don't worry about the haters....some people just aren't happy unless they are complaining. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:14:39 PM EDT
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Sounds like fluffy was acting like a fudd and bothering someone by showing off his toys. Typical old man at the range behavior. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:16:22 PM EDT
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Wow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yeah this was a pretty fucking stupid story. Hurr durr muh WWII guns are moar accurized then that stupid jew gun, hurr durr. Some of you must live miserable lives that you have nothing better to do but walk around worrying what other people are doing everyday. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:17:08 PM EDT
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Sounds like fluffy was acting like a fudd and bothering someone by showing off his toys. Typical old man at the range behavior. I do not bother anyone ever at the range. I am also polite and I never argue with anyone. Not even an idiot who knows nothing at all about shooting and who has no respect. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:18:17 PM EDT
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Let me get this right.. Op watches his shooting neighbor. Noticed he doesn't get the same groupings as a bench rester. proceeds to insult his shooting neighbor by bragging how even his ancient firearm is better then him shooting a new rifle. Comes onto Arfcom hoping to find other accuracy snobs. Ops shooting neighbor continues to practice with his firearm and have a good time without jackassery bothering him anymore. Sound about right? |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I never showed him my rifles. I only showed him a single cartridge. And that's all it took for him to go crazy. I do not bother anyone ever at the range. I am also polite and I never argue with anyone. Not even an idiot who knows nothing at all about shooting and who has no respect. I wasn't there and I won't judge. Just saying your point appears to simply be a losing proposition. Glad you had a great time at the range. Hope the other guy did too. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:24:10 PM EDT
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@FluffyTheCat
Having a Tavor is legal in Canukistan? |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:24:54 PM EDT
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The parody thread is already down in flames.
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:25:09 PM EDT
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Sounds like fluffy was acting like a fudd and bothering someone by showing off his toys. Typical old man at the range behavior. He has a friendly conversation with a shooter who trashes bench rest shooters while being a crappy shot himself. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:28:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure a lot of reading stuff into the situation that isn't there. Therapy may be in order for you. He has a friendly conversation with a shooter who trashes bench rest shooters while being a crappy shot himself. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:29:33 PM EDT
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You seem like a nice enough guy in your other threads. I have seen you extend some awesome generosity here. But from the outside looking you have just not painted a good picture. I wasn't there and I won't judge. Just saying your point appears to simply be a losing proposition. Glad you had a great time at the range. Hope the other guy did too. He noticed that I was shooting a .30-06 and that's when I said that I was also shooting a .222. I showed him a .222 round and the rest happened. I never bothered the guy; I never showed him a target; I never criticized his shooting ; I never argued with him and I did not show him any of of my guns. I only related what happened as an example of range idiocy. In fact I go out of my way to be quiet and diplomatic at the range. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:29:49 PM EDT
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Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:30:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The parody thread is already down in flames.
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:33:04 PM EDT
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I don't worry about other people's targets anymore. I'm no pro but when I go to the range I definitely shoot better than 95% of the people there. As long as they're on paper I'm happy. Honestly most of them are probably just happy to make noise and be on paper too. I'm shooting for me, not to impress some stranger next to me. Was the guy with the Tavor standing or shooting from a bench? Was he firing rapidly? Bringing the rifle up from low ready and firing as soon as he was on target? You're not giving us anything to work with here, OP. I'm sure you understand that defensive training isn't about tiny groups. |
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