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Posted: 12/9/2022 1:19:20 AM EDT
[#1]
Dan Wesson on the low side. Wilson, ACW, or similar in the middle to higher end. Skip Nighthawk.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 1:33:11 AM EDT
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I like Guncrafter 1911s, the few I've owned have all been great, No Name model. Wilsons can be reaally good, or so so good. Too many cooks in the kitchen over there.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 1:39:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alchemy If you are not familiar, get familiar.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcWoXHiUtY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z0Bpr7LSyIFor you Springer Pro fans. Rob ran it. He is the best thing going for a legit custom build, which is what I consider anything over $2k. Dan Wesson if you want production. They are local to me. You will not find a better 1911. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:07:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been lusting after the Quantico HiCap for over a year. I might sell some stuff to get one.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Has to be 45acp has to be single stack hast to have a rail would like for it to have a threaded barrel but not a must I really like the FDE COLT RAIL GUN but the only one I can find on GB is 3700. That's seems like a lot for that gun. But it's in my price range. thanks for any suggestions and links Alchemy Quantico https://alchemy1911.com/product/quantico/ I've been lusting after the Quantico HiCap for over a year. I might sell some stuff to get one. I've never even shot one. I really want to get a feel for the difference between those and the stuff I've got. But maaaaan they look good and their rep is impeccable. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:13:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dan Wesson Specialist and mags / ammo is a solid spend. Get setup with some TT Gunleather and some kydex. here Good choice.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:14:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are local to me. You will not find a better 1911. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Alchemy If you are not familiar, get familiar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcWoXHiUtY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z0Bpr7LSyIFor you Springer Pro fans. Rob ran it. He is the best thing going for a legit custom build, which is what I consider anything over $2k. Dan Wesson if you want production. They are local to me. You will not find a better 1911. I hate that stupid cut they do to the dust cover… 
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:15:44 AM EDT
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Buy a Tisas Duty with the Rail. For $450, Spend another 200 having it tuned and gone over by a smith and put a magwell msh on it. Invest the rest of the money.
My buddy had a Para that wasn't 100% reliable. Spent a couple hundred having it worked over and the thing is amazing to shoot and has been 100% reliable. After seeing the difference in a smithed 1911, I can't justify spending the money on a high end 1911 anymore unless you "just have to have one". |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:21:56 AM EDT
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How bout' a Nighthawk Custom GRP 45 ACP in smoked nitride finish for$ 3750.00. Don't have one but I was interested in their Firehawk 1911.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:30:54 AM EDT
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With that budget for a single stack, I would recommend the following:
1. Derr Precision - Might be a little over but worth reaching out with the specs you want. 2. Pilot Mountain Arms - Exceptionally accurate pistols that are not assembly line guns. 3. Charyn Precision - Newer to the market but excellent tolerances in his builds and some cool features like the Marvel Disconnector Cut. At that price point or higher I’d avoid Wilson, NH, etc. They are good pistols but you can get so much more out of a hand fit gun by someone who knows what they are doing and will take their time with the build. For under $4k I’d recommend the following for new production semi customs: 1. Alchemy Custom Weaponry 2. Dan Wesson 3. Springfield Armory Professional |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:35:08 AM EDT
[#10]
My Dan Wesson Vigil or pretty nice and saved me $3k apparently.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:46:18 AM EDT
[#11]
NHC or WC.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:52:30 AM EDT
[#12]
covered
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:57:18 AM EDT
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I’ll sell my nighthawk talon. It has all the features your looking for and low 200 serial number. Extremely accurate. Email for pics
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:58:07 AM EDT
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Wilson Combat and it's not even close |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 10:01:27 AM EDT
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A $1500 TRP operator and thermals
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:09:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cabot I don't think $4,000 will even get you one of their entry level 1911's. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:10:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A $1500 TRP operator and thermals |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:17:23 AM EDT
[#18]
I was today years old when I learned about the ACW Quantico HiCap… damn that looks good.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:20:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wilsons can be reaally good, or so so good. Too many cooks in the kitchen over there. It's like a iPhone factory or auto assembly line. Note that the "custom" smiths (when you send your blaster in) don't work in the semi-mass market shop. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:21:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wilson Combat and it's not even close If it’s in 45 ACP, like OP suggested this would be the answer. However, I have a Wilson combat in 10 mm and it’s a complete utter piece of shit that fails to feed about every third round regardless of ammo. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:30:16 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it’s in 45 ACP, like OP suggested this would be the answer. However, I have a Wilson combat in 10 mm and it’s a complete utter piece of shit that fails to feed about every third round regardless of ammo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wilson Combat and it's not even close If it’s in 45 ACP, like OP suggested this would be the answer. However, I have a Wilson combat in 10 mm and it’s a complete utter piece of shit that fails to feed about every third round regardless of ammo. 10mm I would go Springfield with Wilson mags |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:46:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A 45 HiPoint, an 8 ball of coke and 3 hookers. Cut back to just two hookers instead of three, and upgrade the Hi Point to an LEO trade in G21. Still a good party. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:47:50 AM EDT
[#23]
There's no fucking way I'd spend 4k on a railed, single stack 1911.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:55:14 AM EDT
[#24]
ACW is the one.
Wilson and Nighthawk are damn good. Baer is good in the sub $2,500 market no fucking way his guns are worth $4k+ and I say this as a Baer fan with 2 currently owned and 4 or 5 previously owned. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 11:57:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For that money talk to one of the custom 1911 builders and have one built just the way you want it. You are in custom hand built by a guy money . Custom as in Jason Burton type custom? I thought most of the good smiths are $5k+ closer to $7k and probably over a year + wait? I don't have that kind of income so I don't really keep up with the custom guys. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 12:00:41 PM EDT
[#26]
I've owned a few high end 1911's. Ed Brown Special Forces was the most accurate for me, even better than me Baer 1.5 guarantee gun.
If I were looking for one now, it would be Alchemy. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 12:35:06 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Custom as in Jason Burton type custom? I thought most of the good smiths are $5k+ closer to $7k and probably over a year + wait? I don't have that kind of income so I don't really keep up with the custom guys. Sounds about right. Most any custom is going to be over $4k from a well regarded smith, maybe if you only have one or two things done but a lot of top smiths have stopped offering a la carte options and only do "packages" now (can't blame them). Also, a lot of the well regarded smiths have closed their books due to enormous demand to have guns built out. The premium 1911 market seems to be thriving still with not a lot of deals to be had used and top smith booked years out. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 12:38:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @friskydingo I stand corrected...I did look them up and you are right, less than a LB, but not half...I was going on what I paid for mine and what I remember the RRA prices being about 5 years ago, but it seems they have escalated their pricing structure since I last looked.... And I do agree with you on Kimbers, the last 1911 I would be purchasing All good! I just happen to be familiar with RRA since I was recently talking with them about optioning out a build. I really like RRA 1911's and have had massive regret selling off a super early custom spec'd RRA at the start of the scamdemic to make some ends meet after some unexpected expenses and changes in work. I would take a RRA over LB any day, but of course that's just my personal preference! |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 12:59:39 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is exactly what I want. Just not sure I can trust a kimber.. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/958833378 The 5” guns are solid with only a small chance of some slight tuning needed. Frame to slide and barrel fit are variable but functional. ETA: in the spirit of the thread, I’d get a really good condition Springfield Pro or an ACW without the “Alchemy Custom Weaponry” roll mark. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 1:12:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/9/2022 1:13:17 PM EDT
[#31]
TRP Operator.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 1:18:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wilson Combat and it's not even close My last WC the front sight fell off while shooting. Based on my experiences with sig and ruger I called expecting a return label to be emailed to me and to get the gun back in a few days. Instead I was told to slather the front dovetail with red loctite and slide the sight back in and then give it a day to set up. For a 5000 dollar gun to have a loose dovetail and that being the solution is absolutely unacceptable. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 1:54:15 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it’s in 45 ACP, like OP suggested this would be the answer. However, I have a Wilson combat in 10 mm and it’s a complete utter piece of shit that fails to feed about every third round regardless of ammo. I have a Wilson LW CQB that misfeeds way too often. It's been back to Wilson twice and still does it. It will go to JT Timmons soon, let him actually fix it. I've never been very happy with that gun. It's a looker, but that's about it... |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 6:47:22 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote History Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:03:28 PM EDT
[#35]
Smith and Wesson 945 if you can find one. Most accurate 1911 I've ever run. No rail.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:10:05 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Something from Les Baer Gross. Wilson or alchemy for best fit barrel, nhc for most standard enhancements. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:13:07 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wilson, Dan Brown, or Les Baer. Nighthawk is not worth what they are charging. I disagree with nhc assessment. They really aren't much more than wilson or alchemy, but you get serrated slide top and rear and nitride instead of no serrations and weak bluing or cerakote. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:15:20 PM EDT
[#38]
I love my Dan Wesson CBOB.
If I was willing to spend that much money, however, I'd go straight to Otto (Otto Comp) and have him build me one. Then again, I'm lucky enough to live close to him. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:15:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A Cabot maybe…might have to add a to the budget. Cabots are pretty and more signature build, but they are fluff pieces that don't need to actually function. They are the occ of 1911s |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 8:36:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cabots are pretty and more signature build, but they are fluff pieces that don't need to actually function. They are the occ of 1911s And the parent company of Alchemy. 
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Posted: 12/9/2022 8:59:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And the parent company of Alchemy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cabots are pretty and more signature build, but they are fluff pieces that don't need to actually function. They are the occ of 1911s And the parent company of Alchemy. Fairly well known in 1911 circles that they bought alchemy to get rob in to unfuck Cabot guns and show them how to build a reliable 1911, but facts and stuff. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 9:19:30 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cabots are pretty and more signature build, but they are fluff pieces that don't need to actually function. They are the occ of 1911s Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A Cabot maybe…might have to add a to the budget. Cabots are pretty and more signature build, but they are fluff pieces that don't need to actually function. They are the occ of 1911s Junk…
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