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Posted: 5/19/2023 3:46:46 PM EDT
That always seemed sus to me, but then the more I looked it seems like Clinton and the CIA/FBI got along just fine.
Did Bush not want to win, and struck a deal with Clinton? Was Perot involved...because he has to know he was never going to win. Also...Sr and Jeb were behind how W was elected and reelected. So that one is obvious and W was termed out. We all knock Cheney couldn't run because he couldn't take the stress with his heart. |
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Ross Perot and a saxophone on Carson.
Read my lips, no new taxes and an ambush by Stephanopoulos on Larry King. It was a snowball effect. Happy days are here again. Bill Clinton on The Johnny Carson Show 1988 President George Bush VS George Stephanopoulos 1992 Clinton's Carson Appearance |
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Maybe 'lose' is a relative concept at that level. Did he still have wealth, influence and power? Did he just lose his turn as figure head?
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Clinton was cool, and played the saxophone. Presidential material.
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Quoted: Knowing what we know, you think they just couldn't get to Perot because he was independently wealth like Trump? View Quote There was nothing to “get” Perot, while a real prick to work for ( I knew one of his close underlings ) , was pretty straight in business and private life. Also, the GOP underestimated him |
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Quoted: Maybe 'lose' is a relative concept at that level. Did he still have wealth, influence and power? Did he just lose his turn as figure head? View Quote He never lost influnce and power...that's how W won...he also purposely didn't want Jeb to win, and that's how Jeb never made it past Gov of FL |
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All of Clinton's illegitimate children and girlfriends voted.
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It seems th Agency had their man either way, given what went on in Mena during the 80s.
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The other side promised more goodies. Both corrupt as fuck though.
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Bush and the CIA needed Clinton to smuggle all that cocaine into Arkansas.
They owed him a favor, and it didn't really matter which cia puppet was actually warming the chair in the oval office. |
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Reagan opened their eyes. You can't let the electorate choose who leads the country. Since then it's been steady downhill "progress". Trump was another elected, not selected candidate.
Now, you can see they're acting like they're behind schedule, maybe four years behind schedule. That's why everything seems clown world. |
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I have a gun, but I don't use it to take whatever I want. I play by the rules, at least to some extent. I suspect that just because he could call in favors, it didn't mean he would do that for an election. By the time the guy spent 4 years in the Whitehouse I suspect he had enough. It doesn't look like a fun job.
Bush Sr wasn't exactly a populist, but I do think that he thought he was a patriot. |
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He didn’t even try to win re-election. He barely campaigned but didn’t really put any effort into it.
I was a little peeved at the time because I felt that if he didn’t want a second term, he should have admitted it and let someone else take the reigns. Losing to a serial rapist back when politicians were held to a higher standard (unlike today) was pathetic. |
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Clinton won with 43% of the popular vote. Perot got almost 19%. It's not that hard to figure out
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ABC agencies don't care who wins, as long as they have both candidates in their pocket
Trump was an outsider. We all saw the world changing insanity which kicked off the second Trump started becoming a serious contender |
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Perot was in bed with the dems. He was smart enough to know the end results.
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Quoted: ABC agencies don't care who wins, as long as they have both candidates in their pocket Trump was an outsider. We all saw the world changing insanity which kicked off the second Trump started becoming a serious contender View Quote Exactly. As things get closer this time around you can guarantee they’ll be pulling out all the stops again. Will get interesting because this time decent people will be watching more closely |
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Quoted: They did get to Perot. He suspended his campaign when they threatened his family. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Knowing what we know, you think they just couldn't get to Perot because he was independently wealth like Trump? They did get to Perot. He suspended his campaign when they threatened his family. This. Wasn't he winning (at least in the national popular vote polls, which doesn't necessarily translate to the electoral college) before he dropped out? |
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The CIA needed Bill's backyard (Mena) more than HW.
Both of them were in bed with the CIA. |
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It seems as if the investigation agencies are picking the winner of offices. Sort of a you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours...or you get me elected and I'll look the other way for all the treasonous stuff your agency does.
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The 538 analysis of Perot says that he took nearly even votes from Clinton and Bush, so not swaying the election either way.
If you trust 538. Maybe the CIA didn't like Bush, either. |
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The CIA decided that the path of political corruption for personal gain was better than the old system so they have backed the Clinton Crime machine.
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The Bush and Clinton family are tighter than most realize.
Remember, the candidates are selected for us before we (use to) elect the winner. Nowadays we don't even get to do that. |
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Even if you insist on a conspiracy-dominated world view, you still have to account for conflicts of elite conspiratorial interest.
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He groomed Clinton for the job after Clinton was nice enough to keep the Arkansas state police away from H.W.Bush's cocaine operations in Mena.
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