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Link Posted: 1/20/2016 7:49:00 AM EDT
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Charging handle and safety, best improvements.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 7:51:29 AM EDT
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Same

Link Posted: 1/20/2016 7:56:17 AM EDT
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It wouldn't sell if it didn't take existing AK mags.
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All those design changes and it still takes shitty "rock in to lock in", non drop free mags.


It wouldn't sell if it didn't take existing AK mags.


I don't see what the problem with rock and lock magazines is in the first place.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 7:59:15 AM EDT
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I'd like to see one of those up close.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 8:05:13 AM EDT
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It's way beyond Tapco-fucked, it's in Tapco-Bukake territory at this point.



 
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 8:10:51 AM EDT
[#6]
Looks interesting...I'll wait and see.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 8:15:10 AM EDT
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Yep. I kind of like it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 8:16:35 AM EDT
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For $800 ill try it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 8:18:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2016 8:34:05 AM EDT
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So gay.  I am very disappointed.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 9:09:28 AM EDT
[#11]
Takes AK mags....I would NOT have been a buyer if it didn't.  

I'm a buyer at under $1k.  

OK, lets take bets now.  I predict it will be in the $1800 range
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 9:19:48 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2016 9:24:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2016 9:25:07 AM EDT
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Charging handle slot looks like it will be perfect for loading sand into
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 9:27:39 AM EDT
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I will take a hammer and bend my front sight just to make it true to its roots.  The 16" at 7.7 lbs and the 12" at 7 lbs.  Also starts under $1k.

http://www.ammoland.com/2016/01/the-ak-alfa-rifle-to-debut-at-the-2016-shot-show/#axzz3xm7CXhlQ


http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/01/foghorn/new-from-kalashnikov-alfa-rifle-american-9mm-ak/

https://youtu.be/q6njAhyoy_4
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I really hate that stock design, no matter what its attached to. Just looks too much like a boot.

But I guess you don't have to worry about the front sight being canted.


I will take a hammer and bend my front sight just to make it true to its roots.  The 16" at 7.7 lbs and the 12" at 7 lbs.  Also starts under $1k.

http://www.ammoland.com/2016/01/the-ak-alfa-rifle-to-debut-at-the-2016-shot-show/#axzz3xm7CXhlQ


http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/01/foghorn/new-from-kalashnikov-alfa-rifle-american-9mm-ak/

https://youtu.be/q6njAhyoy_4

. So they go to all the trouble of designing a new selector, but still demo it in condition 3?  Whats the point?  Is the selector not a real improvement over something like a Krebs safety?

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Link Posted: 1/20/2016 10:00:09 AM EDT
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I want it but then I realized they screwed it up.



cheek riser should go straight up not move up at an angle.



removable pistol grip





I guess what i really want is an AR lower with an AK upper that takes ak mags.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 10:01:51 AM EDT
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No, it's a modern AK so...

http://mfg.regionaldirectory.us/green-garbage-can-300.jpg


 
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Link Posted: 1/20/2016 10:01:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2016 10:02:45 AM EDT
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It looks like a SCAR trying to be an AK.









TWO GREAT GUNS IN ONE !!!
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 10:03:43 AM EDT
[#20]
Kind of want it, but probably not for the price they want for it
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 10:09:25 AM EDT
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Looks like a toy, like the Vektor CR-21

Link Posted: 1/20/2016 10:14:26 AM EDT
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its plastic, it goes in the recycling bin
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 10:50:23 AM EDT
[#23]
looks interesting
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 10:54:39 AM EDT
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its plastic, it goes in the recycling bin
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its plastic, it goes in the recycling bin

Polymers are used in lot of applications nowadays.... from car engine intake manifolds to  components in ballistic armor. The AK will hardly be breaking new ground as a firearm to employ polymers in its construction.  Not so long ago that people derided the M16 as a toy that would fall apart as it was made of aluminum and plastic.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 10:57:04 AM EDT
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So it's a design update that addresses many of the issues AK haters always bitch about...but still a trashcan gun?  Sounds about right
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:00:17 AM EDT
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Wow I really like how that new AK looks!
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:02:47 AM EDT
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Weird that they went with the 45 degree gas block.  I know the 90 degree gas block is only needed for 5.45 or 5.56 but the 45 degree gas block looks weird to me on a "modern" AK.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:05:09 AM EDT
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For $900 or less I'll take a chance.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:05:21 AM EDT
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Should have made it accept standard ar15 pistol grips. But other than that I guess itsinteresting
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:06:34 AM EDT
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Soooooo it's a SIG 55x?
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:07:58 AM EDT
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Meh
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:09:50 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:09:56 AM EDT
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Besides the VZ-58, I wonder if this will be a "legal" AK in Maryland.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:15:57 AM EDT
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Will it come with a bullet button..??
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:27:12 AM EDT
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It wouldn't sell if it didn't take existing AK mags.
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All those design changes and it still takes shitty "rock in to lock in", non drop free mags.


It wouldn't sell if it didn't take existing AK mags.


If they really were whiz-bang engineers, they'd figure out how to accomplish both.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:40:42 AM EDT
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Looks like it would be easy to make a 5.56 version with a STANAG magwell
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:47:31 AM EDT
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Only on this site can a  manufacturer by the name of Kalashnikov make a rifle that is not Kalashnikov enough for the peanut gallery. I  hope the stock is interchangeable in the future... besides that it looks like it will be lighter, better ergos and MUCH better optic mounting solutions... if it is as dependable as the old AK this weapon is going to awesome.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:49:04 AM EDT
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Only on this site can a  manufacturer by the name of Kalashnikov make a rifle that is not Kalashnikov enough for the peanut gallery
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Only on this site can a  manufacturer by the name of Kalashnikov make a rifle that is not Kalashnikov enough for the peanut gallery



They have nothing to do with the Kalashnikov concern in Russia.  It's an American company.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:50:03 AM EDT
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You got your work cut out for you Krebb
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:50:15 AM EDT
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So someone let an XM8 rape and AK and this is the bastard child!
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:52:54 AM EDT
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They have nothing to do with the Kalashnikov concern in Russia.  It's an American company.
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Only on this site can a  manufacturer by the name of Kalashnikov make a rifle that is not Kalashnikov enough for the peanut gallery



They have nothing to do with the Kalashnikov concern in Russia.  It's an American company.

The Kalashnikov guys seem to disagree with you. http://www.kalashnikov-usa.com/about
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:55:18 AM EDT
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I have a sneaking suspicion that they took a run of the mill AK barreled receiver, removed the triggerguard, maybe milled the top of the front trunnion and wrapped it in plastic. Custom carrier for the charging handle and 'tantal'-ish selector.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 11:56:57 AM EDT
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I stopped looking at the 'tuba gun when I saw the 9mm on that page.


http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/01/foghorn/new-from-kalashnikov-alfa-rifle-american-9mm-ak/
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 12:03:43 PM EDT
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Anyone know why they went back to the old style gas block?
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 12:04:48 PM EDT
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It took a lot of creativity to fuck an AK up that bad.
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 12:05:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2016 12:06:39 PM EDT
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Needs a Plastic trash can!

 
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 12:09:24 PM EDT
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Interesting rifle.  About the only thing I don't like about it is the mag release.  Looks too flimsy.  I'm sure the charging handle is still reciprocating and the bolt still will not be able to be manually locked, nor will the mag lock the bolt open.  Wondering how hard it will be to throw the safety from safe to fire and back.  For everything they've shown it's got to be a $1,000+ gun.  I'm sure they will sell quite a few, but I just don't see the viability since AR's are below $1,000.  Hell, below $700
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 12:09:40 PM EDT
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Nailed it.  
Link Posted: 1/20/2016 12:10:06 PM EDT
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