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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:06:14 PM EDT
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Marlin fanatic and 45/70 superfan checking in!
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:07:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Marlin fanatic and 45/70 superfan checking in! Username checks out. 
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:09:50 PM EDT
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Great round. My favorite in a lever action. One of my favorite guns is my Winchester 1886 Deluxe:
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:10:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great round. My favorite in a lever action. One of my favorite guns is my Winchester 1886 Deluxe: https://www.winchesterguns.com/content/dam/winchester-repeating-arms/products/rifles/model-1886/deluxe-case-hardened/Model-1886-Deluxe-Case-Hardened-534227-3817hr.jpg/_jcr_content/renditions/original.img.jpg I'll be in my bunk. 
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:15:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:27:54 PM EDT
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Love me some cavalry toys too!
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:45:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Love me some cavalry toys too!https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24542/Springfield_Carbine_jpg-1584464.JPG ? |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:54:42 PM EDT
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I have an old H&R Shakari in 45-70.
English style stock with no pistol grip. Lean forward and hope for the best. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 4:05:40 PM EDT
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Don’t get no better at being able to stop 99% of the critters on the planet
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Posted: 9/9/2020 4:09:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At minimum start collecting scrap lead and of course keep your brass. Even jacketed bullets on the ground. Cut a slot if they are encapsulated in a copper jacket and they will melt in a Lee pot. The copper jacket will float to the top. Of course bullet lead is dirty so you might want to process it first to make clean ingots, your Lee pot will thank you and drip less. If you make a bullet trap before shooting you can collect your lead bullets in the dirt and recast them. Tedious but really helps during ammunition droughts like we’re experiencing now. The best part is being able to shoot exactly what you want as far as power levels go. The 45/70 covers a very wide stretch of energy. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 4:30:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The best part is being able to shoot exactly what you want as far as power levels go. The 45/70 covers a very wide stretch of energy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: At minimum start collecting scrap lead and of course keep your brass. Even jacketed bullets on the ground. Cut a slot if they are encapsulated in a copper jacket and they will melt in a Lee pot. The copper jacket will float to the top. Of course bullet lead is dirty so you might want to process it first to make clean ingots, your Lee pot will thank you and drip less. If you make a bullet trap before shooting you can collect your lead bullets in the dirt and recast them. Tedious but really helps during ammunition droughts like we’re experiencing now. The best part is being able to shoot exactly what you want as far as power levels go. The 45/70 covers a very wide stretch of energy. Absolutely! Mild to wild! I don’t shoot wild sitting or prone....the only cartridge I shot where I saw stars... It was beautiful! |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 4:41:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely! Mild to wild! I don’t shoot wild sitting or prone....the only cartridge I shot where I saw stars... It was beautiful! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: At minimum start collecting scrap lead and of course keep your brass. Even jacketed bullets on the ground. Cut a slot if they are encapsulated in a copper jacket and they will melt in a Lee pot. The copper jacket will float to the top. Of course bullet lead is dirty so you might want to process it first to make clean ingots, your Lee pot will thank you and drip less. If you make a bullet trap before shooting you can collect your lead bullets in the dirt and recast them. Tedious but really helps during ammunition droughts like we’re experiencing now. The best part is being able to shoot exactly what you want as far as power levels go. The 45/70 covers a very wide stretch of energy. Absolutely! Mild to wild! I don’t shoot wild sitting or prone....the only cartridge I shot where I saw stars... It was beautiful! The Marlins will withstand loads you probably don't want to shoot-and keep in mind that "light" loads killed a lot of buffalo. I load all my stuff to the upper end of trapdoor pressures. Iowa whitetail die easier than buffalo do. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:24:21 PM EDT
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I’ll play! I just finished my mods on my latest 45-70. She’s a little Marlin 1895 Trapper. Mods include an Andrews custom Hornback crocodile sling, a Hellhound leather company baseball stitch lever wrap, a Beartooth mercantile steel magazine follower, a Happy trigger, Bear proof extractor, Beartooth mercantile safety delete saddle ring, XS lever scout rail, Skinner backup rear sight, Aimpoint micro with an ARMS quick release mount, a northwoods fiber optic front sight. and finally a Wild West guns quick release lever screw.
  
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:26:31 PM EDT
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I have a HandiRifle in 45-70.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:40:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:45:54 PM EDT
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If I am pushed into popping a marxist the first shot will be from a 45/70.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:52:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. I just don't get all of the cartridges in slings and on stocks. There's the obvious issue of potentially losing or damaging cartridges, but it also makes the rifle in hand needlessly heavier. It's a dang .45-70. How many rounds do you need to get the job done?  Most have tubes that hold at least 4, if not more, plus one in the chamber. Mine is 6+1. And if I want to carry more, a spare box in a pocket/vest/pouch carries better, at least for me.Seems like an Instagram thing. I use mine to store rounds getting in and out of vehicles during hunting season since we can't have loaded rifles in a vehicle here in CO. Got sick of having loose rounds bouncing around in my cup holders. If I could leave the gun loaded, I probably wouldn't bother. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:57:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:59:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I use mine to store rounds getting in and out of vehicles during hunting season since we can't have loaded rifles in a vehicle here in CO. Got sick of having loose rounds bouncing around in my cup holders. If I could leave the gun loaded, I probably wouldn't bother. Fair enough. Thanks. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:08:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a HandiRifle in 45-70. Lightweight little things, aren't they? They jump pretty good when you touch them off. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:14:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before 45-70 meme pic thing. As the creator of that meme, im triggered. 
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:30:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ll play! I just finished my mods on my latest 45-70. She’s a little Marlin 1895 Trapper. Mods include an Andrews custom Hornback crocodile sling, a Hellhound leather company baseball stitch lever wrap, a Beartooth mercantile steel magazine follower, a Happy trigger, Bear proof extractor, Beartooth mercantile safety delete saddle ring, XS lever scout rail, Skinner backup rear sight, Aimpoint micro with an ARMS quick release mount, a northwoods fiber optic front sight. and finally a Wild West guns quick release lever screw. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40842/5EAAECF0-66E8-4B27-873E-D4EB60CE5423-1584624.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40842/20EE5136-D397-434D-A0BF-AB94342B1A1B-1584626.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40842/FFE070F1-D683-468E-A083-ABB461DD09CF-1584625.jpg I want that sling. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:39:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I use mine to store rounds getting in and out of vehicles during hunting season since we can't have loaded rifles in a vehicle here in CO. Got sick of having loose rounds bouncing around in my cup holders. If I could leave the gun loaded, I probably wouldn't bother. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:02:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If Buds would ever ship it, I have a Sharps Cavalry carbine in 45-70 government coming. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/prodotti_immagini_immagine_476-1584210.jpg
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:07:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:13:24 PM EDT
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 Attached FileMmmmm, 45/70. I’m partial to Turnbull color case hardened Winchesters myself. Ignore the 1892’s. This is a 45/70 thread!
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:23:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/263143/9620CC3C-E9FE-44D0-8DD2-E76AF6682AD4_jpe-1584976.JPG Mmmmm, 45/70. I’m partial to Turnbull color case hardened Winchesters myself. Ignore the 1892’s. This is a 45/70 thread! Beautiful! |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:27:48 PM EDT
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  Do not mind the ar. Bottom pick holds 9+1 of goodness.  
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Posted: 9/10/2020 8:50:37 AM EDT
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So much beauty in this thread. The single shots in particular
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Posted: 9/10/2020 10:28:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/263143/9620CC3C-E9FE-44D0-8DD2-E76AF6682AD4_jpe-1584976.JPG Mmmmm, 45/70. I’m partial to Turnbull color case hardened Winchesters myself. Ignore the 1892’s. This is a 45/70 thread! Oh my...
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Posted: 9/10/2020 10:39:17 AM EDT
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I shot one owned by @buck19delta. Was expecting a worm hole to open up upon squeezing the trigger. Big pile of meh. I mean, it’s fuckin sweet but I was expecting.....more.
I also have a 375 H&H that I’ve fired some stout safari loads through so there’s that. Maybe it was because of the load? The Hornady flex tip rounds or whatever they’re called. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 10:44:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I use mine to store rounds getting in and out of vehicles during hunting season since we can't have loaded rifles in a vehicle here in CO. Got sick of having loose rounds bouncing around in my cup holders. If I could leave the gun loaded, I probably wouldn't bother. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I agree. I just don't get all of the cartridges in slings and on stocks. There's the obvious issue of potentially losing or damaging cartridges, but it also makes the rifle in hand needlessly heavier. It's a dang .45-70. How many rounds do you need to get the job done? Most have tubes that hold at least 4, if not more, plus one in the chamber. Mine is 6+1. And if I want to carry more, a spare box in a pocket/vest/pouch carries better, at least for me.Seems like an Instagram thing. I use mine to store rounds getting in and out of vehicles during hunting season since we can't have loaded rifles in a vehicle here in CO. Got sick of having loose rounds bouncing around in my cup holders. If I could leave the gun loaded, I probably wouldn't bother. More weight on rifle = better recoil management
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Posted: 9/10/2020 10:45:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I shot one owned by @buck19delta. Was expecting a worm hole to open up upon squeezing the trigger. Big pile of meh. I mean, it’s fuckin sweet but I was expecting.....more. I also have a 375 H&H that I’ve fired some stout safari loads through so there’s that. Maybe it was because of the load? The Hornady flex tip rounds or whatever they’re called. those were weak assed factory loads. handloading gets the round up to shoulder dislocating power levels, id say a heavy handload is around 3x recoil what a factory load is. IIRC a ruger # 1 in 45/70 will produce up to 7000lbs of muzzle energy with heavy handloads. you put that ruger # 1 load in a marlin lever gun and it will blow the gun apart. no different than taking a heavy loaded ruger revolver and trying to shoot that same load in a airweight snub nose .357.  
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Posted: 9/10/2020 10:47:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: those were weak assed factory loads. handloading gets the round up to shoulder dislocating power levels, id say a heavy handload is around 3x recoil what a factory load is. IIRC a ruger # 1 in 45/70 will produce up to 7000lbs of muzzle energy with heavy handloads. that load in a marlin lever gun will blow the gun apart. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I shot one owned by @buck19delta. Was expecting a worm hole to open up upon squeezing the trigger. Big pile of meh. I mean, it’s fuckin sweet but I was expecting.....more. I also have a 375 H&H that I’ve fired some stout safari loads through so there’s that. Maybe it was because of the load? The Hornady flex tip rounds or whatever they’re called. those were weak assed factory loads. handloading gets the round up to shoulder dislocating power levels, id say a heavy handload is around 3x recoil what a factory load is. IIRC a ruger # 1 in 45/70 will produce up to 7000lbs of muzzle energy with heavy handloads. that load in a marlin lever gun will blow the gun apart. Fair enough! Hmmmm maybe I do need a 45-70.
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Posted: 9/10/2020 10:52:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fair enough! Hmmmm maybe I do need a 45-70. you make yourself a heavy hand reload and the marlin 45/70 is a whole new animal than the one you saw with weak assed factory loads designed to be safe in the weakest 45/70 ever produced. . i remember reading about a guy shooting a cape buffalo in the chest with a 45/70 and finding the bullet basically in its ass after traveling thru 6 feet of buffalo. basically this. 
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Posted: 9/10/2020 10:52:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Under that particular law, loaded is defined as chambered. You should be good with the tube full. Interesting. I’ve always assumed that a loaded magazine was no bueno. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 10:56:46 AM EDT
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but I LIKE my shoulder....
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Posted: 9/10/2020 10:57:29 AM EDT
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heres mine...
 Attached Filei need to mount a new sight for extended range shooting though... maybe something like this?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 11:03:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Yojimbo Thank you! Yes they are safe for modern loads. I have already been casting bullets for it LOL https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/20200908_152550-1583034.jpg Now if I could just get it in my damn hands! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @Dog1 That's beautiful! Are those Cavalry carbines safe to use with the modern hot .45-70 loads? @Yojimbo Thank you! Yes they are safe for modern loads. I have already been casting bullets for it LOL https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/20200908_152550-1583034.jpg Now if I could just get it in my damn hands! 500 gr. Coated .458 bullet, next to a .45 acp round, for my “Quigley” Sharps 74  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 11:04:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: heres mine... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/92687/45_70_leupold_2_jpg-1585772.JPG i need to mount a new sight for extended range shooting though... maybe something like this? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/92687/grenade_sight_JPG-1585777.JPG Lol Try shooting 45 Colt Cowboy loads at 200 yards at a steel plate. Essentially my 1873 Winchester clone was a mortar...
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Posted: 9/10/2020 11:29:23 AM EDT
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Can we add 45-70 Auto into this thread too?  THIS GUN IS REAL ??? yup ... teh price is 
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Posted: 9/10/2020 11:36:42 AM EDT
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“45-70” can be considered 3 separate cartridges:
This 45-70:  - is an original Springfield “trap door” and should only be loaded with cast lead bullets and either black powder (or if you really know what you are doing) a reduced substitute load. It goes without saying it should first be checked by a gunsmith; most owners don’t shoot their trapdoors anymore. Rolling blocks are slightly stronger - but probably not many left in shootable condition. This 45-70, a stainless steel Marlin, is designed for most modern factory loads, including jacketed bullets: But if you hand-load carefully, and decide you need to abuse your shoulder, beat up your brass, create elephant killing loads, then the gun to handle it is this:  Ruger light artillery (aka Ruger no. 1 single shot). |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 11:51:00 AM EDT
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I love that croc sling!
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:08:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If Buds would ever ship it, I have a Sharps Cavalry carbine in 45-70 government coming. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/prodotti_immagini_immagine_476-1584210.jpg Love sharps rifles! It’s worth the wait |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:10:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “45-70” can be considered 3 separate cartridges: This 45-70: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Springfield_Trapdoor_breech_open.JPG/1200px-Springfield_Trapdoor_breech_open.JPG - is an original Springfield “trap door” and should only be loaded with cast lead bullets and either black powder (or if you really know what you are doing) a reduced substitute load. It goes without saying it should first be checked by a gunsmith; most owners don’t shoot their trapdoors anymore. Rolling blocks are slightly stronger - but probably not many left in shootable condition. This 45-70, a stainless steel Marlin, is designed for most modern factory loads, including jacketed bullets: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.lnIqrgL2CUHkyxPzlijmMwHaE8%26pid%3DApi&f=1 But if you hand-load carefully, and decide you need to abuse your shoulder, beat up your brass, create elephant killing loads, then the gun to handle it is this: https://www.gunsamerica.com/userimages/613/917388544/wm_3901262.jpg Ruger light artillery (aka Ruger no. 1 single shot). Yep. I look at trapdoor as "full power"(it's the original spec after all) and Marlin and Ruger loads as +P amd +p+. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:15:26 PM EDT
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With trail boss and cast Bullet’s more like 19 cents a shot
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:17:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With trail boss and cast Bullet’s more like 19 cents a shot That is what I'm going to do is my first load. That is whenever my rifle arrives this 
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:28:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is what I'm going to do is my first load. That is whenever my rifle arrives this I have had good results with pistol powders, wads, and cereal fillers; but it's a little more advanced technique wise. A "dented can" type store can be a very cheap source for cornmeal, grits, and cream of wheat that isn't fit for consumption. I won't say how it's done, but I have done well in the past with WC860, duplex loaded with pistol powder as well. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:35:19 PM EDT
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I like the Dark. I wish the SBL was threaded. If the SBL was threaded, I think it would be perfect.
https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever-action/model-1895-big-bore/model-1895-dark-series  |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:46:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand the frustration of not having a load gate...but there is hope...you too can join the load gate master race...and cast aside your heathen tube loaded abomination. |
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