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Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:00:46 AM EDT
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A cigarette contains about 1 gram of tobacco. I'd say the median smoker has 20 a day.



On the other hand, the median pot smokers will smoke less than 1 gram.



Further, TSNAs are the primary carcinogens in tobacco smoke. They're tobacco specific.



That's not to say that marijuana smoke is safe, it just probably contains far less carcinogenic material.
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Right.  But at the same time it spares you from cancer, it fucks your brain up.  Most of my "old school" toking buddies have moved on from being high all the time.  The ones that didn't live very shitty lives.  They live to be high.  
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:14:57 AM EDT
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  Right.  But at the same time it spares you from cancer, it fucks your brain up.  Most of my "old school" toking buddies have moved on from being high all the time.  The ones that didn't live very shitty lives.  They live to be high.  
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A cigarette contains about 1 gram of tobacco. I'd say the median smoker has 20 a day.

On the other hand, the median pot smokers will smoke less than 1 gram.

Further, TSNAs are the primary carcinogens in tobacco smoke. They're tobacco specific.

That's not to say that marijuana smoke is safe, it just probably contains far less carcinogenic material.

  Right.  But at the same time it spares you from cancer, it fucks your brain up.  Most of my "old school" toking buddies have moved on from being high all the time.  The ones that didn't live very shitty lives.  They live to be high.  


Wow who'd of known doing something to excess would impact one's life.  I'm shocked.

Tell me more about this reefer madness.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:16:20 AM EDT
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Weed gets you high, that's what you're missing
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:21:06 AM EDT
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Pills=Good

Marijuana=Great!

LSD=OK

All other drugs=(wink wink, nod nod, shhhh, don't ask don't tell)

Cigarettes=The Devil!!!!!
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:23:04 AM EDT
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Because it's natural, man!  

Yeah right...double the dose of carcinogens, much thicker smoke in weed, and you tend to hold it in the lungs for longer.
Let them keep doing it.  It's the problem that solves itself.   You have hordes of unwashed douchebags who believe it cures everything from blindness
to cancer and stomach ailments as well as helping with nausea from chemotherapy.   Dumbasses.

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Soil contains trace amounts of radioactive materials.  Plants are bio-accumulators, see bananas and ionizing radiation from potassium isotopes.

When smoked (MJ and tobacco, not bananas), they can do lots of damage internally.  Skin normally stops the damage.

MJ will be shown to cause cancer soon enough, so the war on weed will meet the war on pain meds and heroin.

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We have had tens of millions of people smoking tens of millions of pounds of illegal pot from uncertain origins for the last fifty years. When do you suppose we will have some clear signs that it causes cancer?
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Probably from the loads of brain-dead motherfuckers in cancer wards with no lungs left, would be my guess.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:29:55 AM EDT
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Because it's natural, man!  

Yeah right...double the dose of carcinogens, much thicker smoke in weed, and you tend to hold it in the lungs for longer.
Let them keep doing it.  It's the problem that solves itself.   You have hordes of unwashed douchebags who believe it cures everything from blindness
to cancer and stomach ailments as well as helping with nausea from chemotherapy.   Dumbasses.



Probably from the loads of brain-dead motherfuckers in cancer wards with no lungs left, would be my guess.
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Because it's natural, man!  

Yeah right...double the dose of carcinogens, much thicker smoke in weed, and you tend to hold it in the lungs for longer.
Let them keep doing it.  It's the problem that solves itself.   You have hordes of unwashed douchebags who believe it cures everything from blindness
to cancer and stomach ailments as well as helping with nausea from chemotherapy.   Dumbasses.

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Soil contains trace amounts of radioactive materials.  Plants are bio-accumulators, see bananas and ionizing radiation from potassium isotopes.

When smoked (MJ and tobacco, not bananas), they can do lots of damage internally.  Skin normally stops the damage.

MJ will be shown to cause cancer soon enough, so the war on weed will meet the war on pain meds and heroin.



We have had tens of millions of people smoking tens of millions of pounds of illegal pot from uncertain origins for the last fifty years. When do you suppose we will have some clear signs that it causes cancer?


Probably from the loads of brain-dead motherfuckers in cancer wards with no lungs left, would be my guess.


Lol.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:29:58 AM EDT
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What stereotype? And then he describes the stereotype. Pure GD goodness.
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LOL

Quite the opposite actually.  Stereotyping is making generalizations about individual members of a specific group.  An example would be "women are more caring than men".  What I am stating is how individual members claiming to be part of the same group....a political group which by all rights should have a common philosohy, direction, and agendas...appears to have very differing and even contradictory opinions amongst it's members to the point where it's laughable ironic facepalm material.  Some members want to take a hard line stance against...gasp...soda and salt.  Others say smoking pot is OK.   Mr. Ortiz, a liberal democrat, is even contradicting himself.  He wants to ban salt, he is on a committee for drug and alcohol abuse, yet he wants to lower the drinking age to 18.  It's laughable.  I would like to know his stance on Marijuana.

Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:41:42 AM EDT
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Milk is a gateway drug
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:53:34 AM EDT
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We have had tens of millions of people smoking tens of millions of pounds of illegal pot from uncertain origins for the last fifty years. When do you suppose we will have some clear signs that it causes cancer?
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Soil contains trace amounts of radioactive materials.  Plants are bio-accumulators, see bananas and ionizing radiation from potassium isotopes.

When smoked (MJ and tobacco, not bananas), they can do lots of damage internally.  Skin normally stops the damage.

MJ will be shown to cause cancer soon enough, so the war on weed will meet the war on pain meds and heroin.



We have had tens of millions of people smoking tens of millions of pounds of illegal pot from uncertain origins for the last fifty years. When do you suppose we will have some clear signs that it causes cancer?


What killed Bob Marley?
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 1:03:27 AM EDT
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What killed Bob Marley?
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Soil contains trace amounts of radioactive materials.  Plants are bio-accumulators, see bananas and ionizing radiation from potassium isotopes.

When smoked (MJ and tobacco, not bananas), they can do lots of damage internally.  Skin normally stops the damage.

MJ will be shown to cause cancer soon enough, so the war on weed will meet the war on pain meds and heroin.



We have had tens of millions of people smoking tens of millions of pounds of illegal pot from uncertain origins for the last fifty years. When do you suppose we will have some clear signs that it causes cancer?


What killed Bob Marley?


Acral Lentiginous Melanoma......


Usually affects black or "darker" skinned people and has nothing to do with pot..... Unless he was smoking pot with his feet where the cancer started.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 2:12:52 AM EDT
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Marijuana doesn't sponsor idiotic shit like NASCAR.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:27:03 AM EDT
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Pills=Good

Marijuana=Great!

LSD=OK

All other drugs=(wink wink, nod nod, shhhh, don't ask don't tell)

Cigarettes=The Devil!!!!!
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Glad to know your opinion.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:28:21 AM EDT
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Because it's natural, man!  

Yeah right...double the dose of carcinogens, much thicker smoke in weed, and you tend to hold it in the lungs for longer.
Let them keep doing it.  It's the problem that solves itself.   You have hordes of unwashed douchebags who believe it cures everything from blindness
to cancer and stomach ailments as well as helping with nausea from chemotherapy.   Dumbasses.



Probably from the loads of brain-dead motherfuckers in cancer wards with no lungs left, would be my guess.
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Help me make sense of this apparent conflict in their reasoning? What am I missing?


Because it's natural, man!  

Yeah right...double the dose of carcinogens, much thicker smoke in weed, and you tend to hold it in the lungs for longer.
Let them keep doing it.  It's the problem that solves itself.   You have hordes of unwashed douchebags who believe it cures everything from blindness
to cancer and stomach ailments as well as helping with nausea from chemotherapy.   Dumbasses.

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Soil contains trace amounts of radioactive materials.  Plants are bio-accumulators, see bananas and ionizing radiation from potassium isotopes.

When smoked (MJ and tobacco, not bananas), they can do lots of damage internally.  Skin normally stops the damage.

MJ will be shown to cause cancer soon enough, so the war on weed will meet the war on pain meds and heroin.



We have had tens of millions of people smoking tens of millions of pounds of illegal pot from uncertain origins for the last fifty years. When do you suppose we will have some clear signs that it causes cancer?


Probably from the loads of brain-dead motherfuckers in cancer wards with no lungs left, would be my guess.


That's tobacco you are talking about, not marijuana.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:29:22 AM EDT
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LOL

Quite the opposite actually.  Stereotyping is making generalizations about individual members of a specific group. An example would be "women are more caring than men".  What I am stating is how individual members claiming to be part of the same group....a political group which by all rights should have a common philosohy, direction, and agendas...appears to have very differing and even contradictory opinions amongst it's members to the point where it's laughable ironic facepalm material.  Some members want to take a hard line stance against...gasp...soda and salt.  Others say smoking pot is OK.   Mr. Ortiz, a liberal democrat, is even contradicting himself.  He wants to ban salt, he is on a committee for drug and alcohol abuse, yet he wants to lower the drinking age to 18.  It's laughable.  I would like to know his stance on Marijuana.

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What stereotype? And then he describes the stereotype. Pure GD goodness.


LOL

Quite the opposite actually.  Stereotyping is making generalizations about individual members of a specific group. An example would be "women are more caring than men".  What I am stating is how individual members claiming to be part of the same group....a political group which by all rights should have a common philosohy, direction, and agendas...appears to have very differing and even contradictory opinions amongst it's members to the point where it's laughable ironic facepalm material.  Some members want to take a hard line stance against...gasp...soda and salt.  Others say smoking pot is OK.   Mr. Ortiz, a liberal democrat, is even contradicting himself.  He wants to ban salt, he is on a committee for drug and alcohol abuse, yet he wants to lower the drinking age to 18.  It's laughable.  I would like to know his stance on Marijuana.



Yeah, like when you attribute some idea to someone and then, at the end admit that you don't know his stance on one of the things you are stereotyping about.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:30:06 AM EDT
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The word "STUPID" comes to mind.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:33:31 AM EDT
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Vaping has also been declared as bad, despite there being many, many liberals in the vaping community.





Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:34:22 AM EDT
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What killed Bob Marley?
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Soil contains trace amounts of radioactive materials.  Plants are bio-accumulators, see bananas and ionizing radiation from potassium isotopes.

When smoked (MJ and tobacco, not bananas), they can do lots of damage internally.  Skin normally stops the damage.

MJ will be shown to cause cancer soon enough, so the war on weed will meet the war on pain meds and heroin.



We have had tens of millions of people smoking tens of millions of pounds of illegal pot from uncertain origins for the last fifty years. When do you suppose we will have some clear signs that it causes cancer?


What killed Bob Marley?

the deputy avenging the sheriff?
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:36:00 AM EDT
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I think it's only been declared bad by the Gov and scientists who refuse to look at it without bias.
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Vaping has also been declared as bad, despite there being many, many liberals in the vaping community.







I think it's only been declared bad by the Gov and scientists who refuse to look at it without bias.




No it was declared bad because the people were doing something without the .gov having their fingers in it, and the .gov can't have that.



 

Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:40:13 AM EDT
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op, get both?
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:45:23 AM EDT
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One thing I have never seen is a chain smoking pot user.  Most pot users I have met burn through a dime bag over a couple weeks.  Thats a big difference in volume alone.  

Most cigar smokers I know eventually died from COPD or Emphysema versus cigarette smokers had a larger portion of lung cancer and related issues.  Probably caused by the chemicals used to treat the tobacco and paper.  

I would be interested to know if if there is any correlation between smokeless tobacco users and anyone that has used marijuana in a similar manner developing mouth cancer.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:47:44 AM EDT
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op, get both?
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That was the first thing poped in my mind when read the title

 
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:50:57 AM EDT
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Dumbest thing I've read all day. Try a little less foil tomorrow morning.
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It is all about control.  

It's much easier to subdue the populace when they are gakked out of their mind on dope.   Nicotine doesn't subdue.


Dumbest thing I've read all day. Try a little less foil tomorrow morning.


Sounds like a 2016 version of Reefer Madness.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 11:59:49 AM EDT
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Vegan/vegetarian diet = good, healthy.

Wheat bread = healthy

Gluten = Your dick flying off like a bottle rocket.

Never understood how they came to that conclusion, since we've been eating wheat bread for what... Three thousand years?

Tobacco = lung cancer

liquor = must be taxed or it's bad!

pot = no health risks whatsofuckingever. Nevermind that weed kills brain cells. Not as many as alcohol, but still.


ETA: Their reasoning is shit, and based solely on their 'feelz.' Remember that, and you will understand why they say the things they do.
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And how long have we been genetically modifying wheat? Hint: Around the same time Gluten intolerance started exploding in our population...hmmm wonder why that is? I wonder if people who have problems with our wheat are less affected by wheat grown outside of Monsanto's reach.


"Just a decade ago, gluten-intolerance levels were at 1 in 2500 worldwide. Today, it’s at 1 in 133.

According to research posted at the Weston A Price Foundation’s website, modern wheat varieties are wildly different than more traditional varieties. In short, modern wheat is simply not the same plant it used to be.

I believe that this, along with our recent and dramatic increases in improperly prepared grain consumption, is what has led to the rise in levels of gluten-intolerance. Gluten-free diets aren’t simply fads; they’re coping mechanisms."
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:12:54 PM EDT
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Smoking is not good for you no matter what it is.  You can make the argument that pot smoke inst as toxic as cigarette smoke but that's a pretty stupid argument.  They are both bad for you.

ETA:  What im saying is that inhaling smoke isn't good for you.  If someone wants to do pot there are other ways to do it that isn't as bad for you.  You could eat it, etc.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:20:42 PM EDT
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Yeah, like when you attribute some idea to someone and then, at the end admit that you don't know his stance on one of the things you are stereotyping about.
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What stereotype? And then he describes the stereotype. Pure GD goodness.


LOL

Quite the opposite actually.  Stereotyping is making generalizations about individual members of a specific group. An example would be "women are more caring than men".  What I am stating is how individual members claiming to be part of the same group....a political group which by all rights should have a common philosohy, direction, and agendas...appears to have very differing and even contradictory opinions amongst it's members to the point where it's laughable ironic facepalm material.  Some members want to take a hard line stance against...gasp...soda and salt.  Others say smoking pot is OK.   Mr. Ortiz, a liberal democrat, is even contradicting himself.  He wants to ban salt, he is on a committee for drug and alcohol abuse, yet he wants to lower the drinking age to 18.  It's laughable.  I would like to know his stance on Marijuana.



Yeah, like when you attribute some idea to someone and then, at the end admit that you don't know his stance on one of the things you are stereotyping about.


So far the only thing you have done is made an assumption...a very incorrect assumption that I am referring to one individual with the use of the word "they"...which in itself means multiple individuals.  I've made several attempts to spell this out to you in plain fucking English, but yet you keep clinging to this idea that I am talking about a single person. I'm not going to start drawing stick figures in crayon to help you over your mental hurdle.  You've wasted enough of my time already.  

If it bothers you that someone is ridiculing the hypocrisy within your political affiliation, go back to DU and have yourself a nice rigorous circle jerk.  I'm sure you'll feel much better afterwards.
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 12:23:32 PM EDT
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Super High Me is a fantastic documentary detailing the effects of marijuana on an individual.




And stuff. Man.
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And how long have we been genetically modifying wheat? Hint: Around the same time Gluten intolerance started exploding in our population...hmmm wonder why that is? I wonder if people who have problems with our wheat are less affected by wheat grown outside of Monsanto's reach.


"Just a decade ago, gluten-intolerance levels were at 1 in 2500 worldwide. Today, it’s at 1 in 133.

According to research posted at the Weston A Price Foundation’s website, modern wheat varieties are wildly different than more traditional varieties. In short, modern wheat is simply not the same plant it used to be.

I believe that this, along with our recent and dramatic increases in improperly prepared grain consumption, is what has led to the rise in levels of gluten-intolerance. Gluten-free diets aren’t simply fads; they’re coping mechanisms."
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Vegan/vegetarian diet = good, healthy.

Wheat bread = healthy

Gluten = Your dick flying off like a bottle rocket.

Never understood how they came to that conclusion, since we've been eating wheat bread for what... Three thousand years?

Tobacco = lung cancer

liquor = must be taxed or it's bad!

pot = no health risks whatsofuckingever. Nevermind that weed kills brain cells. Not as many as alcohol, but still.


ETA: Their reasoning is shit, and based solely on their 'feelz.' Remember that, and you will understand why they say the things they do.


And how long have we been genetically modifying wheat? Hint: Around the same time Gluten intolerance started exploding in our population...hmmm wonder why that is? I wonder if people who have problems with our wheat are less affected by wheat grown outside of Monsanto's reach.


"Just a decade ago, gluten-intolerance levels were at 1 in 2500 worldwide. Today, it’s at 1 in 133.

According to research posted at the Weston A Price Foundation’s website, modern wheat varieties are wildly different than more traditional varieties. In short, modern wheat is simply not the same plant it used to be.

I believe that this, along with our recent and dramatic increases in improperly prepared grain consumption, is what has led to the rise in levels of gluten-intolerance. Gluten-free diets aren’t simply fads; they’re coping mechanisms."

yes they are, gluten intolerance is a crock of shit (legitimate celiacs notwithstanding)
Link Posted: 6/27/2016 1:42:06 PM EDT
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So far the only thing you have done is made an assumption...a very incorrect assumption that I am referring to one individual with the use of the word "they"...which in itself means multiple individuals.  I've made several attempts to spell this out to you in plain fucking English, but yet you keep clinging to this idea that I am talking about a single person. I'm not going to start drawing stick figures in crayon to help you over your mental hurdle.  You've wasted enough of my time already.  

If it bothers you that someone is ridiculing the hypocrisy within your political affiliation, go back to DU and have yourself a nice rigorous circle jerk.  I'm sure you'll feel much better afterwards.
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What stereotype? And then he describes the stereotype. Pure GD goodness.


LOL

Quite the opposite actually.  Stereotyping is making generalizations about individual members of a specific group. An example would be "women are more caring than men".  What I am stating is how individual members claiming to be part of the same group....a political group which by all rights should have a common philosohy, direction, and agendas...appears to have very differing and even contradictory opinions amongst it's members to the point where it's laughable ironic facepalm material.  Some members want to take a hard line stance against...gasp...soda and salt.  Others say smoking pot is OK.   Mr. Ortiz, a liberal democrat, is even contradicting himself.  He wants to ban salt, he is on a committee for drug and alcohol abuse, yet he wants to lower the drinking age to 18.  It's laughable.  I would like to know his stance on Marijuana.



Yeah, like when you attribute some idea to someone and then, at the end admit that you don't know his stance on one of the things you are stereotyping about.


So far the only thing you have done is made an assumption...a very incorrect assumption that I am referring to one individual with the use of the word "they"...which in itself means multiple individuals.  I've made several attempts to spell this out to you in plain fucking English, but yet you keep clinging to this idea that I am talking about a single person. I'm not going to start drawing stick figures in crayon to help you over your mental hurdle.  You've wasted enough of my time already.  

If it bothers you that someone is ridiculing the hypocrisy within your political affiliation, go back to DU and have yourself a nice rigorous circle jerk.  I'm sure you'll feel much better afterwards.


ster·e·o·type
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noun
1.
a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.
"the stereotype of the woman as the carer"
synonyms:standard/conventional image, received idea, cliché, hackneyed idea, formula
"the stereotype of the rancher"

Like, for instance, the idea that anyone who disagrees with you, or knows what "stereotype" means, must be a liberal and a DU plant.

Thanks for demonstrating my point.
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One thing I have never seen is a chain smoking pot user.  Most pot users I have met burn through a dime bag over a couple weeks.  Thats a big difference in volume alone.  

Most cigar smokers I know eventually died from COPD or Emphysema versus cigarette smokers had a larger portion of lung cancer and related issues.  Probably caused by the chemicals used to treat the tobacco and paper.  

I would be interested to know if if there is any correlation between smokeless tobacco users and anyone that has used marijuana in a similar manner developing mouth cancer.
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I have seen a number of chain smoking pot users. None of them have any lung problems, AFAIK.
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Smoking is not good for you no matter what it is.  You can make the argument that pot smoke inst as toxic as cigarette smoke but that's a pretty stupid argument.  They are both bad for you.

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I would suggest that differentiating degrees of harm is an incredibly useful mechanism, particularly in debate.
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ster·e·o·type
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a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.
"the stereotype of the woman as the carer"
synonyms:standard/conventional image, received idea, cliché, hackneyed idea, formula
"the stereotype of the rancher"

Like, for instance, the idea that anyone who disagrees with you, or knows what "stereotype" means, must be a liberal and a DU plant.

Thanks for demonstrating my point.
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What stereotype? And then he describes the stereotype. Pure GD goodness.


LOL

Quite the opposite actually.  Stereotyping is making generalizations about individual members of a specific group. An example would be "women are more caring than men".  What I am stating is how individual members claiming to be part of the same group....a political group which by all rights should have a common philosohy, direction, and agendas...appears to have very differing and even contradictory opinions amongst it's members to the point where it's laughable ironic facepalm material.  Some members want to take a hard line stance against...gasp...soda and salt.  Others say smoking pot is OK.   Mr. Ortiz, a liberal democrat, is even contradicting himself.  He wants to ban salt, he is on a committee for drug and alcohol abuse, yet he wants to lower the drinking age to 18.  It's laughable.  I would like to know his stance on Marijuana.



Yeah, like when you attribute some idea to someone and then, at the end admit that you don't know his stance on one of the things you are stereotyping about.


So far the only thing you have done is made an assumption...a very incorrect assumption that I am referring to one individual with the use of the word "they"...which in itself means multiple individuals.  I've made several attempts to spell this out to you in plain fucking English, but yet you keep clinging to this idea that I am talking about a single person. I'm not going to start drawing stick figures in crayon to help you over your mental hurdle.  You've wasted enough of my time already.  

If it bothers you that someone is ridiculing the hypocrisy within your political affiliation, go back to DU and have yourself a nice rigorous circle jerk.  I'm sure you'll feel much better afterwards.


ster·e·o·type
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noun
1.
a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.
"the stereotype of the woman as the carer"
synonyms:standard/conventional image, received idea, cliché, hackneyed idea, formula
"the stereotype of the rancher"

Like, for instance, the idea that anyone who disagrees with you, or knows what "stereotype" means, must be a liberal and a DU plant.

Thanks for demonstrating my point.

Stop trying to teach that pig to whistle.
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I would suggest that differentiating degrees of harm is an incredibly useful mechanism, particularly in debate.
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Smoking is not good for you no matter what it is.  You can make the argument that pot smoke inst as toxic as cigarette smoke but that's a pretty stupid argument.  They are both bad for you.

ETA:  What im saying is that inhaling smoke isn't good for you.  If someone wants to do pot there are other ways to do it that isn't as bad for you.  You could eat it, etc.

I would suggest that differentiating degrees of harm is an incredibly useful mechanism, particularly in debate.


Particularly when tobacco is credited with 400,000 kills per year, as opposed to . . . .
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I have heard that some people have taught dogs to drive. Just sayin', there is always hope.
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Why would anyone willingly put smoke into their lungs?


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Why would anyone willingly put smoke into their lungs?


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Because it's an effective way to *also* get the other stuff to go in there at the same time?
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Vaping has also been declared as bad, despite there being many, many liberals in the vaping community.

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Vaping is a community now? How long until they are a protected class?
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Acral Lentiginous Melanoma......





Usually affects black or "darker" skinned people and has nothing to do with pot..... Unless he was smoking pot with his feet where the cancer started.
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Soil contains trace amounts of radioactive materials.  Plants are bio-accumulators, see bananas and ionizing radiation from potassium isotopes.



When smoked (MJ and tobacco, not bananas), they can do lots of damage internally.  Skin normally stops the damage.



MJ will be shown to cause cancer soon enough, so the war on weed will meet the war on pain meds and heroin.







We have had tens of millions of people smoking tens of millions of pounds of illegal pot from uncertain origins for the last fifty years. When do you suppose we will have some clear signs that it causes cancer?




What killed Bob Marley?




Acral Lentiginous Melanoma......





Usually affects black or "darker" skinned people and has nothing to do with pot..... Unless he was smoking pot with his feet where the cancer started.
Yet if a tobacco smoker got the same cancer many on here would be first in line to blame tobacco. lol



 
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Vaping is a community now? How long until they are a protected class?
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Vaping has also been declared as bad, despite there being many, many liberals in the vaping community.




Vaping is a community now? How long until they are a protected class?

Any activity has a "community." Whether it's gaming, sport shooting, hunting, camping, jogging, swinging, whatever...

If you can do it, there's people who make it a hobby. If it's a hobby, it *has* a "community."
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Yet if a tobacco smoker got the same cancer many on here would be first in line to blame tobacco. lol
 
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Soil contains trace amounts of radioactive materials.  Plants are bio-accumulators, see bananas and ionizing radiation from potassium isotopes.

When smoked (MJ and tobacco, not bananas), they can do lots of damage internally.  Skin normally stops the damage.

MJ will be shown to cause cancer soon enough, so the war on weed will meet the war on pain meds and heroin.



We have had tens of millions of people smoking tens of millions of pounds of illegal pot from uncertain origins for the last fifty years. When do you suppose we will have some clear signs that it causes cancer?


What killed Bob Marley?


Acral Lentiginous Melanoma......


Usually affects black or "darker" skinned people and has nothing to do with pot..... Unless he was smoking pot with his feet where the cancer started.
Yet if a tobacco smoker got the same cancer many on here would be first in line to blame tobacco. lol
 

People are wrong about lots of shit, all the time....
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Yeah, it's bad - unless you have a democrat president who smokes, and lies about it.  

Then all the anti-smoking activists seem to STFU real quick.  

Seen Rob Reiner (the meathead) around lately railing about it?  

hmm?

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I often wondered this too.


"Hey man have a slice of pizza."
"OMFG NO ITS NOT GMO FREE!!! IT CAUSES CANCER!!!"


"Hey man, pop this pill"
"What is it?"
"I dunno"
"give me 3."
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It is interesting that liberals want people to be "free" to smoke weed, but not tobacco.  

I often wondered this too.


"Hey man have a slice of pizza."
"OMFG NO ITS NOT GMO FREE!!! IT CAUSES CANCER!!!"


"Hey man, pop this pill"
"What is it?"
"I dunno"
"give me 3."



Dude I do not get it at all either. I get yelled at for destroying my body because I like to eat food like a fattie. They take mind altering drugs though and that's perfectly ok and totally their choice so I should just fuck off and mind my own business.
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Tobacco is controlled by giant corporations man, and they sit in their corporation buildings, acting all corporationy, and then they make money man.

Pot is natural man, it's for the people.
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Liberals hate profit more than anything.  If weed ever becomes corporate, liberals will complain about it too.
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Simply put... You can't fix Stupid.
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Yet if a tobacco smoker got the same cancer many on here would be first in line to blame tobacco. lol
 
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Soil contains trace amounts of radioactive materials.  Plants are bio-accumulators, see bananas and ionizing radiation from potassium isotopes.

When smoked (MJ and tobacco, not bananas), they can do lots of damage internally.  Skin normally stops the damage.

MJ will be shown to cause cancer soon enough, so the war on weed will meet the war on pain meds and heroin.



We have had tens of millions of people smoking tens of millions of pounds of illegal pot from uncertain origins for the last fifty years. When do you suppose we will have some clear signs that it causes cancer?


What killed Bob Marley?


Acral Lentiginous Melanoma......


Usually affects black or "darker" skinned people and has nothing to do with pot..... Unless he was smoking pot with his feet where the cancer started.
Yet if a tobacco smoker got the same cancer many on here would be first in line to blame tobacco. lol
 


Many on here are stupid and let feels get in the way of logic.


ARF: Stop liking what I don't like! Ban what I don't like!
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Who, specifically, do you mean by they? Got some names?
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I like how they want to outlaw cooking with salt and sodas >20 oz, but legalize pot.  


Who, specifically, do you mean by they? Got some names?



I heard that GKH98 dude does.

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How about everyone is free to smoke whatever the fuck they want?

You wanna smoke pot - go for it
You wanna smoke cigarettes - go for it
You wanna smoke bed bugs - go for it
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Hey, marijuana is natural, how could it be bad for you?

Not like tobacc...


Never mind.



Hey, do you think your mom has any more chips upstairs?

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I don't think it's argued that the tobacco is the worst part of the cigarette...
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From what I see by my liberal friends, Cannabis, in any form can cure everything and anything. It's medically proven to cure all diseases or aid in getting the nasty diseases in the first place. It is also proven to be 100% successful in the prevention and curing of cancer.




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Yep, a cure all.  But it has to be smoked as I was informed, the oil can be bad or refining it into medicine.  
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I heard that GKH98 dude does.

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I like how they want to outlaw cooking with salt and sodas >20 oz, but legalize pot.  


Who, specifically, do you mean by they? Got some names?



I heard that GKH98 dude does.



Get your hearing checked.
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