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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:15:02 PM EDT
This is some pretty disturbing stuff that Jim Jordan was just reading off.
He said the ATF taped the doorbell camera and cut off all power to the house. And he shows a video of the ATF staging at a Walmart parking lot one week earlier, but Jim Jordan said they didn't do the raid that day because he wasn't home. More info in the video.  BREAKING NEWS: Jim Jordan Plays Shocking Video Of ATF Agents Preparing For Controversial Raid Rep Troy Nehls: "You've got a $1.672 BILLION, with a B, budget and you can't afford body cameras?" for 11,000 Warrants 27 Second clip
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:19:44 PM EDT
[#1]
Seems like a straight up hit.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:22:22 PM EDT
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I think Jim Jordan said the guy made roughly $235,000 a year.
You think a guy of his nature and his upstanding in the community, they could have probably contacted him and set up a meeting with him. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:23:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Jim Jordan said the guy made roughly $235,000 a year. You think a guy of his nature and his upstanding in the community, they could have probably contacted him and set up a meeting with him. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:24:37 PM EDT
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So officer safety is a consideration for planning warrant service but serving a search warrant when the house is empty is bad?
At least they didn't ride up in cattle trailers with a helicopter buzzing the roof first. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:25:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Jim Jordan said the guy made roughly $235,000 a year. You think a guy of his nature and his upstanding in the community, they could have probably contacted him and set up a meeting with him. Lol like the FBI raid on Trump where they had contingencies if the Secret Service would put up resistance? |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:25:27 PM EDT
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The claim is they week before they staged up and then didn't go because guy wasn't home. Since it was a search warrant and not an arrest warrant this is beyond bad and clearly show they wanted a confrontation.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:25:44 PM EDT
[#7]
FATF
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:26:07 PM EDT
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I think it'd be amusing if they taped up my door camera, but didn't noticed the other two cameras watching the door.
Am I paranoid? Yes, yes I am. Why? My neighbors are methheads. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:27:04 PM EDT
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Jackboots doing jackboot shit…again.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:28:21 PM EDT
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Wonder if the victim had any knowledge of certain agencies smuggling drugs through his airport.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:28:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:29:21 PM EDT
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One of the reasons I invested in cellular game cameras. Always best practice to establish great, not good, relations with your neighbors to ensure they or their attorneys would be willing to share their Ring/Nest camera footage with you.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:31:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol like the FBI raid on Trump where they had contingencies if the Secret Service would put up resistance? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think Jim Jordan said the guy made roughly $235,000 a year. You think a guy of his nature and his upstanding in the community, they could have probably contacted him and set up a meeting with him. Lol like the FBI raid on Trump where they had contingencies if the Secret Service would put up resistance? By chance, do you have a link to these contingencies? Kinda concerning, but I would like to know. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:34:24 PM EDT
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Oh, I made it in near enough the beginning to likely be one of the ones they look at. Wonderful, to the fedboi taking notes, get a job ya bitch.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:35:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAnd remember, they tried putting that fucker in charge of the batfe. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:37:24 PM EDT
[#16]
They wanted a confrontation. Plain and simple.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:39:45 PM EDT
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They could have had the sheriff pick up David Koresh while he was in town.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:39:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They wanted a confrontation. Plain and simple. Yep. And for what? Some guy didn't pay the $150 to get permission from ATF. This was all over him selling stuff from his personal collection at a gun show without a dealer's license. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:40:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They wanted a confrontation. Plain and simple. And they wanted to send the message: "You'd better comply with our rules or we'll kill you no matter how many lawsuits there are." |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:41:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Jim Jordan said the guy made roughly $235,000 a year. You think a guy of his nature and his upstanding in the community, they could have probably contacted him and set up a meeting with him. 100% right. I think he ran an airport. He was "selling guns" as a hobby, not raping and murdering. Certainly not a violent criminal warranting a no knock at the crack of dawn. You just call the guy and sit down with him. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:41:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They could have had the sheriff pick up David Koresh while he was in town. Koresh would have probably met with the sheriff if requested. He called them when ATF showed up. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:41:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They wanted a confrontation. Plain and simple. Actually they wanted to kill him. Just like they want to kill all of us. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:45:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 100% right. I think he ran an airport. He was "selling guns" as a hobby, not raping and murdering. Certainly not a violent criminal warranting a no knock at the crack of dawn. You just call the guy and sit down with him. What if he had flushed the guns down the toilet? |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:45:53 PM EDT
[#24]
We are not free.
Not as bad as many countries. But if you think America still exists like it did for your father and grandfather, you're delusional. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:46:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jackboots doing jackboot shit…again. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:46:59 PM EDT
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I imagine the career of most ATF agents is exceedingly boring. Smashing in doors of a white collar airport manager is the English equivalent of the 19th century Englishman who goes home to his wife bragging of shooting down the Zulu tribesman with a machinegun. It's a cheap thrill and they can get away with it, so why not. I wouldn't look for a whole lot of further meaning than that.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:48:49 PM EDT
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Damn, possible he was a highly contributing member here too. And no I’m not joking about “what’s his screen name”. Anyone with the funds to do what we do at a high enough (murky line) profile could be raided just like this. You know by the numbers they arrived with that this was basically a coordinated attack.
I want to see the rest of the hearing. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:48:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually they wanted to kill him. Just like they want to kill all of us. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They wanted a confrontation. Plain and simple. Actually they wanted to kill him. Just like they want to kill all of us. I have to go with this. Nothing else explains the level of raw insanity employed by the government. Layer upon layer of deliberate and totally unnecessary tactics and force. Along with every possible measure to avoid and evade legal and technical scrutiny. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:49:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like a straight up hit. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:54:03 PM EDT
[#30]
IBTTBL
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Posted: 5/23/2024 4:55:34 PM EDT
[#31]
If I wanted to sell some of my personal collection, how many is too many? What number indicates I'm in firearms business and not simply selling some of my own guns to other individuals? Is there a magic number, do I guess or let atfe make random decision?.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:06:06 PM EDT
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Nothing will be done about this as usual, it's just a show.
They can kill us but don't you dare even shoot at one of them, or worse. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:11:09 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So officer safety is a consideration for planning warrant service but serving a search warrant when the house is empty is bad? At least they didn't ride up in cattle trailers with a helicopter buzzing the roof first. They SHOT thru the roof, you used to be able to hear the audio of the OUTgoing rounds from INside the helo on Dave Hardy's website a long tome ago, he got all the FOIA from .gov. A VERY FAMOUS ARF lawyer now has ALL that FOIA stuff and i HOPE he fucking gets that shit out on the open again SOON rather thn fucking SIT on it...  |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:11:44 PM EDT
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Respect for law enforcement, as a whole, is dying the death of a thousand self inflicted cuts.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:14:55 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Jim Jordan said the guy made roughly $235,000 a year. You think a guy of his nature and his upstanding in the community, they could have probably contacted him and set up a meeting with him. When you can hit an ex President, everybody else is just a nail. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:18:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I wanted to sell some of my personal collection, how many is too many? What number indicates I'm in firearms business and not simply selling some of my own guns to other individuals? Is there a magic number, do I guess or let atfe make random decision?. That is THE question, isn't it? Either they murdered a man who committed no crime, or they killed a dangerous criminal during a justified no knock warrant. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:20:53 PM EDT
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Private sales were 100% legal in his state.
The only issue is the ambiguous "sold too many" clause which I don't believe is legally defined. Instead of attempting a peaceful warrant, they went in guns blazing. Probably didn't even identify themselves properly. Let's call it what it is: legalized murder. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:21:55 PM EDT
[#38]
But these cowards won't go into the lesser desirable neighborhoods and kick in doors, no matter how many Glock switches are known to be there.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:22:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By chance, do you have a link to these contingencies? Kinda concerning, but I would like to know. The FBI had authorized the use of lethal force in the Mar-a-Lago raid. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:23:07 PM EDT
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And there were no body cameras on, even though it was Little Rock PD's policy that they were to have them on, even when assisting the FBI.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:24:25 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We are not free. Not as bad as many countries. But if you think America still exists like it did for your father and grandfather, you're delusional. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:28:04 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I wanted to sell some of my personal collection, how many is too many? What number indicates I'm in firearms business and not simply selling some of my own guns to other individuals? Is there a magic number, do I guess or let atfe make random decision?. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:30:12 PM EDT
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Given the timing, it seems to me they wanted an example of what they could do to you with their new "Rule".
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:32:54 PM EDT
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Nazi is as Nazi does.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:35:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nazi is as Nazi does. Yep. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:42:31 PM EDT
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Nothing but a political hit squad. Fuck every damn one of them.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:45:30 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Jim Jordan said the guy made roughly $235,000 a year. You think a guy of his nature and his upstanding in the community, they could have probably contacted him and set up a meeting with him. They cant shoot his dog if they do that. 
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:52:26 PM EDT
[#48]
Expect no quarter. Give none.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:55:15 PM EDT
[#49]
Who all was home at the time of the attack?
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Posted: 5/23/2024 5:58:44 PM EDT
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