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Link Posted: 9/19/2012 9:35:58 PM EDT
[#1]





Quoted:



Since the OP is retarded, I'll explain.





The 240 and the 249 have different missions.   Each has advantages for certain roles.





The OP's question is like asking, "what's better, an F150 or a Corvette?"  It depends... are you hauling 2x4s or trying to bang middle-aged drunk chicks?



Other than room clearing, the 240 can do just all the same thing that the 249 does.

 






I never went on a single patrol where both weren't used. So you can argue that they both have mostly the same mission. But more practically, it is better for the m249 to be a squad automatic weapon than instead of the 240.

 
Link Posted: 9/19/2012 9:37:52 PM EDT
[#2]
MK43 motherfuckers





Link Posted: 9/19/2012 10:05:49 PM EDT
[#3]
M240 !



7.62 powaaaaaaaaa :D







Seriously, I prefer the 240 everyday (except for weight duuu)




It's true that 249 inners are AK-like but it stop about here...And the 240 is, as one of my drill sergeants told me, a .30 automatic rifle (it's how was called the BAR in Belgian service), upside-down and belt-fed.






Link Posted: 9/19/2012 10:11:16 PM EDT
[#4]
Having used both, I'd pick the 240 based on the accuracy, power, and reliability.
 
Link Posted: 9/19/2012 10:12:04 PM EDT
[#5]
7.62 > 5.56

Link Posted: 9/19/2012 10:14:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Since the OP is retarded, I'll explain.

The 240 and the 249 have different missions.   Each has advantages for certain roles.

The OP's question is like asking, "what's better, an F150 or a Corvette?"  It depends... are you hauling 2x4s or trying to bang middle-aged drunk chicks?

Other than room clearing, the 240 can do just all the same thing that the 249 does.  

I never went on a single patrol where both weren't used. So you can argue that they both have mostly the same mission. But more practically, it is better for the m249 to be a squad automatic weapon than instead of the 240.
 


The SAW is assigned in the fireteam.  The 240 usually is not.
Link Posted: 9/19/2012 10:28:46 PM EDT
[#7]
Suprised to see so many people bagging on the M249 reliability.  I guess ours were new or something, never had problems with reliablity.

I hope no one is complaining about reliability with blanks or even worse, blanks in magazines.
Link Posted: 9/19/2012 10:34:29 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Suprised to see so many people bagging on the M249 reliability.  I guess ours were new or something, never had problems with reliablity.

I hope no one is complaining about reliability with blanks or even worse, blanks in magazines.


Ours never worked with the magazines (this was 1991 when they had the adjustable regulator) & it's a bitch to get them clean behind the magazine well.

Plus, they were so unreliable in Iraq that they had to be wired shut - guys had to walk around with unloaded weapons.
Link Posted: 9/19/2012 10:34:50 PM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


Suprised to see so many people bagging on the M249 reliability.  I guess ours were new or something, never had problems with reliablity.



I hope no one is complaining about reliability with blanks or even worse, blanks in magazines.


I don't understand it either. The 249 was very reliable for us. Usually if one was jamming a lot, it just needed a extractor spring or something. Once that piece that was worn out was replaced, the 249 ran like a sewing machine
Link Posted: 9/19/2012 10:48:47 PM EDT
[#10]
If you answered mk48 you are correct.

We had them last go around and I loved them.  To people who say they wear out too fast well cool story I guess none of ours wore our and they all ran like bolt.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 12:01:43 AM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:


The Pig


choke yourself! M240B all the way!



 
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 12:44:32 AM EDT
[#12]
240. saw was garbage.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 2:00:07 AM EDT
[#13]
PKM (and its descendants) > M240 > G3

Link Posted: 9/20/2012 2:09:44 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
We all know that the MG3 is the best machine gun ever made!  


A MOTHERFUCKER to carry though
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 2:11:33 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
PKM (and its descendants) < M240 > G3



Arms of the free world >.......................................................................................> Commie shit
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 2:15:22 AM EDT
[#16]
M240,... preferably the Golf variant.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 2:25:46 AM EDT
[#17]





Quoted:
Quoted:


Suprised to see so many people bagging on the M249 reliability.  I guess ours were new or something, never had problems with reliablity.





I hope no one is complaining about reliability with blanks or even worse, blanks in magazines.



I don't understand it either. The 249 was very reliable for us. Usually if one was jamming a lot, it just needed a extractor spring or something. Once that piece that was worn out was replaced, the 249 ran like a sewing machine



Anyone who says the M249 is
"garbage" probably had a bad experience with a famfire and called it
quits.  Superior in every way?  Absolutely not.  But I love how
dismissive GP dudes are based on what they read in some paperback or
what their second wife's nonrate daughter in supply thinks about it.





I also want to see all these 240 gunners carry 600 rounds of .30 cal in a
combat load with their crew serve.  'Cause that shit's going to happen.
It [carrying three drums in a combat load] can and does happen with the SAW.





 
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 3:17:03 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
You're not clearing houses with a 240B...you CAN...it's just not suggested.

Different guns, different missions.

And both equally awesome.
 


Yea.... but with the "bravo", you can clear houses from the OUTSIDE!

Link Posted: 9/20/2012 3:19:43 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:

Quoted:
240. 249 is a Belgian ak and belongs in the trash can.

You do realize the 240 is Belgian as well don't you?
 


The same company
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 3:22:48 AM EDT
[#20]
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 3:29:43 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
I was a gunner on both.  My answer.... it depends.


Never shot either but I would agree with this guy, it all depends on what its being used for and the situation surrounding it.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 3:33:21 AM EDT
[#22]
240B
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 3:34:57 AM EDT
[#23]
The 240 is better designed IMO. On the other hand, I haven't done much work to 249s are far as mechanical failures. Most of them are user errors. The 249 just seems more clunky to me.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 5:39:16 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
You're not clearing houses with a 240B...you CAN...it's just not suggested.

Different guns, different missions.

And both equally awesome.
 


Yea.... but with the "bravo", you can clear houses from the OUTSIDE!



I'm a gunner in my unit, love my 240L. Runs on blanks, live, doesn't matter, just have to take care of it
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 6:07:17 AM EDT
[#25]

Having fired the 249 and the Stoner side by side, the Stoner wins.
It's a much smoother cycling weapon, and easier to keep burst on target due to the long recoil system.

I hear that the Ultimax is even smoother.
(Long recoil system again.)
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 6:07:37 AM EDT
[#26]
it really depends on what you are doing

both have their pluses and minuses

i love the 240 and the 249. both are good.

in the right venue one can be better than the other

the mk 48 is a good balance of both platforms

anytime you can use 308 over 223 is always a good thing,
but when you have to hump it around the mountains or difficult terrain the 223 is a better choice, lighter weight.

remember ounces equal pounds
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 6:08:01 AM EDT
[#27]
Get both.
 
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 6:09:02 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Mk48?

Split the difference.


lol... this.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 6:10:25 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Since the OP is retarded, I'll explain.

The 240 and the 249 have different missions.   Each has advantages for certain roles.

The OP's question is like asking, "what's better, an F150 or a Corvette?"  It depends... are you hauling 2x4s or trying to bang middle-aged drunk chicks?


Which would do both best...F150 or Vette?
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 6:15:59 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I was a gunner on both.  My answer.... it depends.



Same and same.


Yup! I do love me some 7.62 love though. But I've cleared a room with a 240 a few times and would much prefer a 249.



Non sense... 240 room clears work and are bad ass!

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Fudge it, i give up on the damn youtube post! any help out there?


Try this
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 12:21:22 PM EDT
[#31]



Quoted:



Quoted:

We all know that the MG3 is the best machine gun ever made!  




A MOTHERFUCKER to carry though


That is why they have the the Ameli.







or if you must



HK23







 
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 12:22:07 PM EDT
[#32]





Quoted:



PKM (and its descendants) > M240 > G3














 



240 has more nations as it's adopted GPMG
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 12:22:56 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Which is a better machine gun?  


Awesome troll post!
No right answer!
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 12:23:23 PM EDT
[#34]





Quoted:



http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/anewell91/DSC03756.jpg


Having fired the 249 and the Stoner side by side, the Stoner wins.


It's a much smoother cycling weapon, and easier to keep burst on target due to the long recoil system.





I hear that the Ultimax is even smoother.


(Long recoil system again.)



Still not sure why we did not adopt the stoner. Also the Ultimax should have won the IAR competition





ultimax mk5 FTW









 
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 12:24:15 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Since the OP is retarded, I'll explain.

The 240 and the 249 have different missions.   Each has advantages for certain roles.

The OP's question is like asking, "what's better, an F150 or a Corvette?"  It depends... are you hauling 2x4s or trying to bang middle-aged drunk chicks?


Which would do both best...F150 or Vette?


Well, if you add big tires and a NASCAR sticker, probably the Ford.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 12:26:20 PM EDT
[#36]



Quoted:



Quoted:




Quoted:

240. 249 is a Belgian ak and belongs in the trash can.


You do realize the 240 is Belgian as well don't you?

 




The same company


I think he is saying that, because the 249 is essentially an upside down AK.

 



The 240 is a belt fed BAR.




They are different actions.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 12:27:19 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Apples and oranges.

I like the 240 bettar than 249 when someome else humps it


Quote for the truth.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 12:37:26 PM EDT
[#38]
Pkm
Hk21e
Hk23e
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 6:28:31 PM EDT
[#39]



Quoted:





Quoted:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/anewell91/DSC03756.jpg

Having fired the 249 and the Stoner side by side, the Stoner wins.

It's a much smoother cycling weapon, and easier to keep burst on target due to the long recoil system.



I hear that the Ultimax is even smoother.

(Long recoil system again.)


Still not sure why we did not adopt the stoner. Also the Ultimax should have won the IAR competition





ultimax mk5 FTW



http://www.bearflagtrading.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/mel243.jpg

 


It should have?

 
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 7:11:48 PM EDT
[#40]
No opinion between those two, we had M60's

But the M2 Browning .50 cal/Ma Duece is still the best.

thinking about it the Russian 14.5mm might be pretty good also
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 7:15:46 PM EDT
[#41]
I hear so much bitching and moaning about the M249.. Fact of the matter is, if you had maintained your weapons properly they would have functioned just fine. I bet 99% of most of your problems were solely feeding issues caused by the rounds not being fully seated in the links.
With that being said, I'd prefer the M240 any day. Why? I just like the heavier rounds.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 7:16:28 PM EDT
[#42]



Quoted:


Which is a better machine gun?  


I HATED my M249

 
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 7:19:46 PM EDT
[#43]



Quoted: It however does take a lot of neglect to get one to stop.


Bullfukin shit. Or you could get issued one that should have been DX'ed long ago. No matter how much you pamper it, it will f you when you need it.

 
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 7:19:57 PM EDT
[#44]





I think Hans Linkshand is going to be eating brass a little later.



 
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 7:23:26 PM EDT
[#45]
Ok does anyone have pics of the Mk48s in action. I love me some Mk48
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 7:29:06 PM EDT
[#46]





Quoted:



Ok does anyone have pics of the Mk48s in action. I love me some Mk48


I am a bit surprised by all the responses about the Mark 48. Other first-hand accounts of it that I heard was that the gun was a piece of shit.






But I dunno.

 
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 7:40:38 PM EDT
[#47]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Suprised to see so many people bagging on the M249 reliability.  I guess ours were new or something, never had problems with reliablity.



I hope no one is complaining about reliability with blanks or even worse, blanks in magazines.




Ours never worked with the magazines (this was 1991 when they had the adjustable regulator) & it's a bitch to get them clean behind the magazine well.



Plus, they were so unreliable in Iraq that they had to be wired shut - guys had to walk around with unloaded weapons.


I carried one '04-'05 that was built in the 80's (still had Fabrique Nationale written in cursive on the side of it). Never one issue with it. They took it from when they said the receiver was warped mid '05. that thing hummed along and I never had the first issue with it.





 
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 8:13:21 PM EDT
[#48]
I didnt see the reliability issues with the M249.

Two reliable, belt fed weapons that shot off the bipod.  If you need long range, want to shoot off the tripod, need a 240.  

All squads have 249s.  If a squad was going somewhere and could have a 240 team along, then bring it.  No brainer.

249 gunners dont get to leave their weapons behind and pick up 240s, or vice versa. Something of a moot question.

Now, if we went to the range, and I had identified the best marksmen and all around studliest young troops...they went on the 240.  240s win battles.  Runner ups got the SAW.  Semi auto weapons such as M4s, and yes, the DMs, came after.

I wouldnt want to get shot at by either. You cant replace one with the other.  They complement each other.

Most people who have had M249 problems come to find they are very old weapons.   They are not innately unreliable...many are worn out.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 8:22:32 PM EDT
[#49]



Quoted:


I didnt see the reliability issues with the M249.



Two reliable, belt fed weapons that shot off the bipod.  If you need long range, want to shoot off the tripod, need a 240.  



All squads have 249s.  If a squad was going somewhere and could have a 240 team along, then bring it.  No brainer.



249 gunners dont get to leave their weapons behind and pick up 240s, or vice versa. Something of a moot question.



Now, if we went to the range, and I had identified the best marksmen and all around studliest young troops...they went on the 240.  240s win battles.  Runner ups got the SAW.  Semi auto weapons such as M4s, and yes, the DMs, came after.



I wouldnt want to get shot at by either. You cant replace one with the other.  They complement each other.



Most people who have had M249 problems come to find they are very old weapons.   They are not innately unreliable...many are worn out.


See, I really like this post. The whole thing about the guns complementing each other and not necessarily food completely different roles.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 8:23:11 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Pkm
Hk21e
Hk23e


Pecheneg!
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