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Posted: 1/22/2018 6:13:24 AM EDT

New for 2018: Mossberg 590M Mag-Fed Shotgun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIso4ZWM06w

Mossberg.com

TFB story

Magazines look promising in terms of durability.

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Posted: 1/22/2018 6:18:42 AM EDT

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Mossberg magazine fed shotgun

Magazines look promising in terms of durability.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64239/Screen_Shot_2018-01-22_at_2-427904.JPG

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Make a Shockwave version and Arfcom would eat chili w/o beans.

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:19:18 AM EDT

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Posted: 1/22/2018 6:21:22 AM EDT

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Looks rather unwieldy with that 20 rd mag, and it's still a pump

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:21:45 AM EDT

[#4]

I think that’s a bit much for birds.

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:21:51 AM EDT

[#5]

Why no 930M

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:24:04 AM EDT

[#6]

That's only 680 pellets of 4 buck per 20 round magazine.

Mediocre.

Aside: If you don't know the mediocre reference

Mad Max: Fury Road - Witness me scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y9jLgqFpik

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:26:04 AM EDT

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considering that the thing is mag fed, why is the magazine tube so long?

What am I missing, the thing still usable as tube feed?

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:29:06 AM EDT

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considering that the thing is mag fed, why is the magazine tube so long?

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I'm betting there's a PITA conversion.

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:29:38 AM EDT

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Mossberg magazine fed shotgun

Magazines look promising in terms of durability.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64239/Screen_Shot_2018-01-22_at_2-427904.JPG

Make a Shockwave version and Arfcom would eat chili w/o beans.

You know they will.

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:30:19 AM EDT

[#10]

No bayonet lug? Fuck that.

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:35:29 AM EDT

[#11]

Will there be a retrofit kit for a Serbu Super Shorty?

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:38:41 AM EDT

[#12]

I just bought a 590A1 SPX

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:39:03 AM EDT

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didnt remington already do that?

they also claimed to revolutionize the shotgun with it...

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:40:34 AM EDT

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It would jam.

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:40:53 AM EDT

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didnt remington already do that?

they also claimed to revolutionize the shotgun with it...

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Remington's is:
- not double stack
- mag only holds 6 shells

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:42:23 AM EDT

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didnt remington already do that?

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Have you seen the feed lips on the Remington?

They look as fragile as icicles.

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:44:41 AM EDT

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Have you seen the feed lips on the Remington?

They look as fragile as icicles.

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i didnt check out the remington because i assumed it would be shit anyways.

Posted: 1/22/2018 6:52:04 AM EDT

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How does the tubular magazine work in conjunction with the magazine?

Is it simply blocked off while the mag is inserted?

Will it feed shells through the top of an empty mag and into the chamber once the mag runs empty?

Posted: 1/22/2018 7:04:57 AM EDT

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Have you seen the feed lips on the Remington?

They look as fragile as icicles.

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lol look at those tiny little tabs that hold the rim of the shells

Posted: 1/22/2018 7:10:25 AM EDT

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Hell Yeah! If it works, I'll get 2 10rders for mine.

Posted: 1/22/2018 7:18:03 AM EDT

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Needs moar 20" barrel that comes back bored with lengthened forcing cone and fixed IC choke, bayonet lug, and adaptable so you can use the mag tube by dropping the box mag.

29 shells in the gun, bayonet, very respectable patterns with most any load...

Sell it for <$1000msrp, and have the mags <$30msrp.

Maybe even a fully rifled slug barrel available?!? 29 Magnum sabot slugs hahahaha!

Posted: 1/22/2018 7:50:13 AM EDT

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considering that the thing is mag fed, why is the magazine tube so long?

What am I missing, the thing still usable as tube feed?

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Probably so Mossberg doesn't have to rework how they attach/secure the barrel to the gun. It's easier/cheaper to just use the standard 500/590 setup then make something new just for this model.

Posted: 1/22/2018 8:07:06 AM EDT

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I'm pretty much gonna have to own one, I want the tri rail, hope the rails are removable

yes, please, now a 20 ga shockwave, for maximum compactness, I will by one of these for considering this.

Posted: 1/22/2018 8:16:12 AM EDT

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didnt remington already do that?

they also claimed to revolutionize the shotgun with it...

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They did but a single stack. Mossberg basically just said hold my beer...

Posted: 1/22/2018 8:17:20 AM EDT

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This is what I want to know or when is one coming out?

Posted: 1/22/2018 8:18:10 AM EDT

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Needs moar 20" barrel that comes back bored with lengthened forcing cone and fixed IC choke, bayonet lug, and adaptable so you can use the mag tube by dropping the box mag.

29 shells in the gun, bayonet, very respectable patterns with most any load...

Sell it for <$1000msrp, and have the mags <$30msrp.

Maybe even a fully rifled slug barrel available?!? 29 Magnum sabot slugs hahahaha!

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Yes!

These mag fed pumps are pretty lame. You need at least an 8 round mag to match a normal magazine tube's capacity. Beyond that you're looking at a ridiculously large magazine, and it's still just a pump.

I'd put up with a 20-round double stack box mag if it were in a semiautomatic.

Posted: 1/22/2018 8:22:04 AM EDT

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Needs moar 20" barrel that comes back bored with lengthened forcing cone and fixed IC choke, bayonet lug, and adaptable so you can use the mag tube by dropping the box mag.

29 shells in the gun, bayonet, very respectable patterns with most any load...

Sell it for <$1000msrp, and have the mags <$30msrp.

Maybe even a fully rifled slug barrel available?!? 29 Magnum sabot slugs hahahaha!

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That’s a concept I could get in line with.

Posted: 1/22/2018 8:25:15 AM EDT

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You know what that 150 year old, streamlined shotgun design really needs? A huge box mag hanging off the perpendicular!!

I love the 500/590 series shotguns, but this thing is stupid.

Posted: 1/22/2018 8:25:51 AM EDT

[#29]

Sorta want

Posted: 1/22/2018 8:31:18 AM EDT

[#30]

Still a pump...I'll stick with my Saiga!

Posted: 1/22/2018 8:44:13 AM EDT

[#31]

those mags would fit a semiautomatic shotgun better

Posted: 1/22/2018 8:49:38 AM EDT

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Needs moar 20" barrel that comes back bored with lengthened forcing cone and fixed IC choke, bayonet lug, and adaptable so you can use the mag tube by dropping the box mag.

29 shells in the gun, bayonet, very respectable patterns with most any load...

Sell it for <$1000msrp, and have the mags <$30msrp.

Maybe even a fully rifled slug barrel available?!? 29 Magnum sabot slugs hahahaha!

That’s a concept I could get in line with.

No way that could work as Mossberg had to do away with the lifter to make room for a box mag. I see no feasible way of doing what you want.

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:02:11 AM EDT

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Remington already did this:

TAC-14 box mag

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:04:11 AM EDT

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The only thing GD is more obsessed with than shotguns is trannies.

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:11:45 AM EDT

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Remington already did this:

TAC-14 box mag

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Horribly designed mags that only hold 6 shells

So, no, they didn't "already did this"

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:14:55 AM EDT

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considering that the thing is mag fed, why is the magazine tube so long?

What am I missing, the thing still usable as tube feed?

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To tube feed you need a lifter...which would interfere with the magazine insertion point.

I suspect the tube is still there because it's cheaper to keep the tube as is than to reconfigure how they manufacture those models any further.

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:18:00 AM EDT

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You know what that 150 year old, streamlined shotgun design really needs? A huge box mag hanging off the perpendicular!!

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I'm kind of in the same boat.

The shotgun is not the same weapon as a carbine. It does different things and consequently developed differently. I can see some utility in box magazines primarily for people who don't know how to use shotguns since it reduces the number of manipulations you have to learn...but aside from that I don't see much utility.

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:18:28 AM EDT

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Shotguns are more fun and useful than most trannies.

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:18:49 AM EDT

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Needs more semi auto

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:28:29 AM EDT

[#40]

Awesome sauce! These are the salad years of firearms!

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:30:28 AM EDT

[#41]

Blech....shotguns

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:32:25 AM EDT

[#42]

No.

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:36:11 AM EDT

[#43]

That thing is gonna be heavy as hell with 20 rounds hanging off the bottom of it.

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:38:42 AM EDT

[#44]

Lack of rediculous muzzle device is concerning.

Posted: 1/22/2018 9:41:31 AM EDT

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Posted: 1/22/2018 9:43:15 AM EDT

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It's about time someone made some rimless shotgun rounds. I know they'd be more expensive but the reliability for my street sweeper would be worth it!