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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:21:04 PM EDT
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The biggest delusion among conservatives is that teenagers will not fuck if you deny them birth control. If I was in charge of the education system, there would be a 55 gallon drum of rubbers in every school bathroom free of charge and if a girl wants the pill, she can get it at the school nurse of course, that would cause everyone to fill their pants with liquid panic turds. because it would promote teen sex!! they won't have sex without rubbers!! Hormonal drugs are serious business, and their use needs to be supervised by a competent physician. Does it have to be a law? I'm not personally a fan of laws like that, but we also don't need to be encouraging such a dismissive attitude towards what are very powerful drugs. They need to be treated with respect and taken seriously. Rubbers are already free. Even if you wish to buy them, they're not very expensive. Availability isn't the problem. People simply don't want to use them. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:21:51 PM EDT
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A Doctor does need permission to operate on your kid, but once your kid is Pregnant they can operate on your kid to kill the a baby with out your permission even if the kid is 12 year of age........
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:21:52 PM EDT
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How the f*** could it possibly to implant a medical device in a minor without parental permission?  |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:24:21 PM EDT
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It would be a lot better if teens just tried to resist having sex. It's already been proven to work in the real world. No problem. OK. Done Deal. LOL. 
Itches gotta be scratched. and teens get VERY itchy. Some TRY to avoid it, but usually the itch wins out. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:27:28 PM EDT
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because a kid that age is not the parents' property And can do with her body what she wants to. Have a problem with that, contact your elected officials. Except sell that body for sex, decide not to go to school, enlist in the military, do porn, get married, sign a contract, put alcohol in that body, get a tattoo or a piercing. But implanting hormonal birth control? Go for it. It's NOTHING like any of those things I listed, and there is ABSOLUTELY no associated risk - right? Right? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:30:05 PM EDT
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I think a teenage girl being responsible is the news story here. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:30:41 PM EDT
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The biggest delusion among conservatives is that teenagers will not fuck if you deny them birth control. If I was in charge of the education system, there would be a 55 gallon drum of rubbers in every school bathroom free of charge and if a girl wants the pill, she can get it at the school nurse of course, that would cause everyone to fill their pants with liquid panic turds. because it would promote teen sex!! they won't have sex without rubbers!! The biggest delusion among non-conservatives is that immature people deliberately engaging in an unwise action are suddenly going to stop and be mature and responsible enough to use barrier contraception - before going ahead with their folly. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:33:07 PM EDT
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Condoms are like flossing your teeth.
Everyone knows it's a good idea, and they'll strongly recommend it, but almost nobody actually does it, and the few people who do are seen as weird. 
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:38:52 PM EDT
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Yeah, we should warn them not to drink while we are at it. Maybe even make a minimum drinking age. That works super well. Maybe there should be a minimum sexing age. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:39:34 PM EDT
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Lol Ok
Kids have pretty much every resource for birth control available to them. Condoms, pills, etc. and they still actively choose not to use contraception and get pregnant anyway. A LOT of them. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:42:41 PM EDT
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Call me crazy, but I'd rather my kid came home with a contraceptive implant than a bun in the oven. True. I'd just have to wonder how I could be so oblivious to why she wanted it. Have two girls BTW. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:43:19 PM EDT
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I know you're just trying to be edgy, but this is weapons grade stupid. Hormonal drugs are serious business, and their use needs to be supervised by a competent physician. Does it have to be a law? I'm not personally a fan of laws like that, but we also don't need to be encouraging such a dismissive attitude towards what are very powerful drugs. They need to be treated with respect and taken seriously. Rubbers are already free. Even if you wish to buy them, they're not very expensive. Availability isn't the problem. People simply don't want to use them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The biggest delusion among conservatives is that teenagers will not fuck if you deny them birth control. If I was in charge of the education system, there would be a 55 gallon drum of rubbers in every school bathroom free of charge and if a girl wants the pill, she can get it at the school nurse of course, that would cause everyone to fill their pants with liquid panic turds. because it would promote teen sex!! they won't have sex without rubbers!! Hormonal drugs are serious business, and their use needs to be supervised by a competent physician. Does it have to be a law? I'm not personally a fan of laws like that, but we also don't need to be encouraging such a dismissive attitude towards what are very powerful drugs. They need to be treated with respect and taken seriously. Rubbers are already free. Even if you wish to buy them, they're not very expensive. Availability isn't the problem. People simply don't want to use them. The regulations are more political than medical though. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:43:45 PM EDT
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I think you're missing the part where it isn't your place to make those decisions for other families. You think because you believe something to be right, you can force your view on others, physically. Most people who state this only believe it so far as they agree with what's being forced. I'm sure you would be ok with it someone applied some "common sense parenting" to your kids that you disagreed with...... We have, as a society, determined that parents are responsible for at least having a say in certain decisions involving their minor children until they reach an age of reasonable consent. Bureaucrats are quietly subverting that moral/legal contract, and some here are cheering it on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The biggest delusion among conservatives is that teenagers will not fuck if you deny them birth control. If I was in charge of the education system, there would be a 55 gallon drum of rubbers in every school bathroom free of charge and if a girl wants the pill, she can get it at the school nurse of course, that would cause everyone to fill their pants with liquid panic turds. because it would promote teen sex!! they won't have sex without rubbers!! You think because you believe something to be right, you can force your view on others, physically. Most people who state this only believe it so far as they agree with what's being forced. I'm sure you would be ok with it someone applied some "common sense parenting" to your kids that you disagreed with...... We have, as a society, determined that parents are responsible for at least having a say in certain decisions involving their minor children until they reach an age of reasonable consent. Bureaucrats are quietly subverting that moral/legal contract, and some here are cheering it on. Mom agreed for her daughter to receive education on sex, and agreed for her to travel to a clinic that provides birth control. After receiving said sex education the daughter choose to obtain birth control. Choice is what happened, but as usual, bricks get shat when a child makes choices their parents don't like. The mother choose for someone else to deal with her daughters sex education. Finally, the age of consent in Oklahoma is 16, or 14 if the partner is <18, so mom is already out of the picture. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:45:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:45:58 PM EDT
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Title X federal guidelines allows for teens as young as 12 to receive various forms of contraceptives without a parent's consent. This is all kinds of fucked up. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:47:43 PM EDT
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My nephew had his hispanic stepdaughter implanted at age 16, both him and the mom had to hold her down for the shot, she was trying to get knocked up at a early age. Once she turned 18 she popped out a kid and is pregnant with second at 19, both her and now hubby are high school dropouts and unemployable. At least my nephew tried to hold her back till she was legal age.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:48:03 PM EDT
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Getting a three-year device at age 16 probably isn't the worst idea. That said it's really not the school's business. They have an agenda and the parents aren't part of it. Vouchers can't come soon enough. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:49:09 PM EDT
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I don't see why everyone is so pissed off. She's 16, she's probably already sexually active. Aren't we always bitching about welfare mothers on here? So she got birth control and her mother didn't know. Maybe her mother is catholic and against it. Who cares? She's trying to be responsible about having sex.
It wasn't a "school field trip". If you read the article it says very clearly that it's an outside group the girl was interested in visiting and they called the mother to ask if the girl could go. We can either freak out about welfare mothers or we can freak out about teen birth control, but not both. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:49:41 PM EDT
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Except sell that body for sex, decide not to go to school, enlist in the military, do porn, get married, sign a contract, put alcohol in that body, get a tattoo or a piercing. But implanting hormonal birth control? Go for it. It's NOTHING like any of those things I listed, and there is ABSOLUTELY no associated risk - right? Right? Law is the law. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:51:34 PM EDT
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Parental permission required to go on a fieldtrip. No parental permission required for a medical procedure.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:53:40 PM EDT
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Also this. She don't want no babies or possibly periods. She's a smart cookie
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:55:28 PM EDT
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How the f*** could it possibly to implant a medical device in a minor without parental permission? Kids have been fucking for thousands of years, shit, 200 years ago they were getting married at 13. I still remember taking my 14 yr old GF to the doctor and getting her on the pill, because we were being responsible about birth control. He said, ' You are 15, right? Cause I am not supposed to prescribe these for you until you are 15.' "Sure thing, Doc." 'OK then. see you in 6 months for a refill' We even ripped one off in his parking lot to celebrate. 
Her parents assumed we were having sex, but never asked, never knowingly caught us, either. And this was 51 years ago, admittedly in a different country, where attitudes towards sex are nowhere near as puritanical as here. So this young lady was just being practical, safe and responsible, is spite of her parents ideals. IMHO YMMV. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:56:16 PM EDT
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I think everyone on welfare and their children of 16 and older should have to have one of these implants! You want tax payer money because you cant support yourself and your kids then you must take birth control.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:56:40 PM EDT
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How the f*** could it possibly to implant a medical device in a minor without parental permission? They won't even give you a Tylenol or aspirin at school without some sort of notarized triplicate permission slip from your mom, your doctor and both their lawyers. But abortion pills, condoms, birth control and narcan, we just give that shit away and are somehow immune from prosecution? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:00:11 PM EDT
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Just goes to show you can't push your morality on anyone else....Not even your family. The girl is wiser than her mom is. I hope she goes far.  
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:01:01 PM EDT
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Condoms are like flossing your teeth. Everyone knows it's a good idea, and they'll strongly recommend it, but almost nobody actually does it, and the few people who do are seen as weird.
Thats why tampons have strings on them.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:01:43 PM EDT
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I can see both sides of the issue.
Yes, I can absolutely see how a parent would be furious at the school for not informing them prior. BUT I totally agree with the law stating that a 16 year old need not get parental consent to get birth control. A 16 year old will have sex if they want to, the parent cannot reasonably prevent it from happening...it's been going on since the beginning of time. Therefore, a sexually active 16 year old should be able to take preventive birth control, and the parent should not be able to stop it by refusing to consent. For the fact is, if the 16 year old gets pregnant, the resulting baby is 100% their responsibility, and not the responsibility of her parents. A parent should not be able to refuse the 16 year old birth control, while having no legal responsibility for the resulting product of unprotected sex. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:03:51 PM EDT
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I don't see why everyone is so pissed off. She's 16, she's probably already sexually active. Aren't we always bitching about welfare mothers on here? GD generally hates abortion and loves fetuses until they're born. Then they become "little welfare parasites" that should be allowed starve to death before a single dime of public funding is spent on them. Compassion only extends to a narrow range here. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:05:56 PM EDT
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Title X, US Code. If the kid is over 12, no parental consent needed for contraception. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How the f*** could it possibly to implant a medical device in a minor without parental permission? So its illegal to get tattoos unless your 18 in most states but a 12 year old can choose to get a foreign device implanted beneath the Subcutaneous tissue in their arm?
Most schools around here have to have a parents permission slip to watch a movie that is rated PG.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:07:41 PM EDT
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In other unrelated news, Herpes runs rampant in a local Tulsa school! |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:07:44 PM EDT
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It would be a lot better if teens just tried to resist having sex. It's already been proven to work in the real world. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:29:45 PM EDT
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Title X, US Code. If the kid is over 12, no parental consent needed for contraception. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How the f*** could it possibly to implant a medical device in a minor without parental permission? Also why set the age at 12? Why not 10? Or 9? Or whenever they are old enough to get themselves to a doctor and explain what they want? So a 12 yr old has the capacity to provide informed consent for surgical procedures.... So long as its only for contraception? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:34:35 PM EDT
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It would be a lot better if teens just tried to resist having sex. It's already been proven to work in the real world. 
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:39:21 PM EDT
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How the f*** could it possibly to implant a medical device in a minor without parental permission? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:00:33 PM EDT
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so much stupid on this post... ARF-ers consider themselves conservative? Government taking over your childrens lives & yall are OK with that? the brainwashing runs deep...
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:05:45 PM EDT
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The article says legally the children can decide to do it on their own, so the school takes them there, the place talks them into and no one has to tell mom. So obviously don't consent to the trip in the first place is the parent's only avenue Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How the f*** could it possibly to implant a medical device in a minor without parental permission? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:07:12 PM EDT
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The article says legally the children can decide to do it on their own, so the school takes them there, the place talks them into and no one has to tell mom. So obviously don't consent to the trip in the first place is the parent's only avenue Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How the f*** could it possibly to implant a medical device in a minor without parental permission? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:08:55 PM EDT
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How the f*** could it possibly to implant a medical device in a minor without parental permission? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:18:22 PM EDT
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So..... left controlled government re-education camps, ship their cattle off for medical experimentation?
This is my shocked face. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:18:33 PM EDT
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The biggest delusion among conservatives is that teenagers will not fuck if you deny them birth control. If I was in charge of the education system, there would be a 55 gallon drum of rubbers in every school bathroom free of charge and if a girl wants the pill, she can get it at the school nurse of course, that would cause everyone to fill their pants with liquid panic turds. because it would promote teen sex!! they won't have sex without rubbers!! And social conservatives have a lot of delusions that they don't want to admit. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:25:53 PM EDT
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Has this young ladies father entered any opinions on this??
Would the tax payers be OK with another kid on welfare?? Might the young lady be trying to make a better life for herself?? Were any current laws violated?? Would her mother been happier if she came home knocked up?? Maybe the young lady made a good choice given the circumstances. If so then I applaud her but there's a lot of questions uncovered. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:26:33 PM EDT
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Sounds like absentee parenting if you don't know what your kid is doing.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:30:55 PM EDT
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Bonus they only have to be 12 years old. Insane to think we can give hormones to children without informed consent, but an adult male has to jump through hoops for basic testosterone therapy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How the f*** could it possibly to implant a medical device in a minor without parental permission? My wife had severe psychological reactions to The Pill and we have two friends that nearly fucking died from pill related blood clots, so, yeah, not telling parents is fucked up. Especially at fucking 12. ETA: My wife notes that in all the sex ed stuff she had to take, hormonal birth control was talked about as the best thing ever and you needed it right now but side effects were never discussed. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:31:35 PM EDT
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Doesn't matter how well it has worked. You don't get to implant shit on a child without parental approval. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would be a lot better if teens just tried to resist having sex. It's already been proven to work in the real world. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:42:49 PM EDT
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When I was in high school I didn't do a single thing without the intention of getting laid. If I worked out, it was so I could look better to get more ass. If I made better grades, it was because I could be around a higher class of ass. If I went out to a party, it was so I could find a piece of ass. If I went to work, it was so that I could spend more time out finding more ass. If I woke up early, it was so I had more time to accomplish shit so I could spend more time chasing ass. If I helped someone volunteered for shit, it was because I knew there would be ass there.
I went to a rather small school, and there were only 250ish other males in that school. So figure at least 200 of them had the exact same mentality as I did. Now your daughter spends that much time around these same males all the time. She has hormones too, and she has a crush on Johnny. Chances are very high that Johnny wants to do things to your daughter that you would not approve of. And chances are that she wants Johnny to them to her as well. Now that Johnny has done them, and moved on to the next flavor of the week, she's now heartbroken. Well Billy is cute, and he's being nice to her as well. Billy makes her forget about Johnny, and now Billy is doing those exact same things to her that Johnny was doing 2 weeks earlier. Now tell me why the fuck you wouldn't want her to have access to contraceptives? Yes you may be the greatest parents in the world, and you have taught your daughter better than that. There are plenty of egotistical assholes out there that like the challenge, and will get her guard down anyways. I can't tell you how many girls that had excellent raising I got into their pants in short order because I made them feel comfortable. And lack of a condom wouldn't stop either of us once we decided what was going to happen. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:44:31 PM EDT
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Just goes to show you can't push your morality on anyone else....Not even your family. The girl is wiser than her mom is. I hope she goes far. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:49:06 PM EDT
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Pretty fucked up situation but it will likely prevent taxpayers from paying a few extra mouths to feed for at least a few years.
That being said this should be required for any adult and adolescent females on welfare. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:52:06 PM EDT
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Meanwhile that same school won't let the girl take an ibuprofen without letters from both the doctor and parent and even then the school nurse has to administer it. They have an agenda and the parents aren't part of it. Vouchers can't come soon enough. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Getting a three-year device at age 16 probably isn't the worst idea. That said it's really not the school's business. They have an agenda and the parents aren't part of it. Vouchers can't come soon enough. Funny you should mention ibuprofen. My kid's school called me and the principle made it sound like my youngest had done something...horrible. I'm thinking what did I miss? finally he mentions she had one, count that one ibuprofen on her person when she went through security in the morning. It was in her jacket pocket and I remembered her saying over the weekend she was going to take some for a headache while we were out and I had a bottle of it in my car so she took a few and put them in her pocket for later. Now I find out she could have said hey dad, sign this paper for me to |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:52:21 PM EDT
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Shit its probably past time to get my wifes implant replaced. Need to go have her sneak into a class taking that field trip for a free reup.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:56:58 PM EDT
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Anyone with a link to an interview with her dad?
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