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Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:25:15 PM EDT
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Si.

Saw it just last week running guys through training. His RDS (DPP) was working but his front sight was spinning.

Just to add to the bitching... Glock MOS plates are complete garbage.

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Oh yeah… They missed the mark with those. Have you tried the Forward Controls plates?
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:30:45 PM EDT
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You sound mad. Are you mad, bro?
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Not even the slightest, cool as cucumber even. But you definitely did act big mad with your last reply to me

Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:33:08 PM EDT
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My 2 year old is smart. He’s not smart enough to know the consequences of mishandling a loaded firearm.

Expecting him to not be a curious toddler is how dumb parents end up with dead kids.
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Could teach your small kids about firearms


My 2 year old is smart. He’s not smart enough to know the consequences of mishandling a loaded firearm.

Expecting him to not be a curious toddler is how dumb parents end up with dead kids.


Bring him shooting. He'll learn
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Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:34:04 PM EDT
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I just ordered a Forward Control plate and RMR for my dad's MOS G19 today.  He's shot my G19 with RMR a few times and has seen the light.
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:35:11 PM EDT
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Someone's going on the ignore list!!!
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Someone's going on the ignore list!!!

Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:35:55 PM EDT
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To rds or not your pistol is of no difference to me.

The 'leaving loaded guns out unsecured around kids' idea is the real stupidity here.
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:42:24 PM EDT
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Your schtick to shame isn't working. Being an obstinate ass to those not wanting to fix a problem that doesn't exist is an ignorance all on it's on. You've been called on this in the past trying to crash in and harshly criticize under the pretenses of dIsCuSsIoN and hElPiNg. And most wasn't just coming from just me as others were pointing this out as well.

Before the age of red dots on handguns, how were so many of you able to stay alive? Were you all not serious then too, or is it serious only if a red dot is on their and the approved tribal list of carry and SHTF guns? If that's the case, there is a metric ton of hypocritical BS.

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I don't care if you use a red dot or not, I personally dont have one on my carry guns now. However I don't kid myself, I don't doubt they are better for aquiring targets and accuracy in the real world where threats arent stationary targets. In fact I am going to go get a P365 and throw a red dot on there in the next few days because I have put it off too long. The guns and optics are now at a size that can easily be carried and concealed and it is time for me to change my ways.

There have been a number of times when it comes to firearms I had to realize I was being an obstinate ass about change. One was optics on rifles. I was a grunt fresh out of the Corps and I knew I could shoot irons just fine. then I shot a red dot on a rifle and realized I was indeed being ignorant. since that epiphany I have shot number of pistol competitions with mixed classes and can't dismiss the times and accuracy of those shooting a class that allows optics.

Also yes, you should change your batteries as well take them out of the optics in the safe that you dont use.

Your schtick to shame isn't working. Being an obstinate ass to those not wanting to fix a problem that doesn't exist is an ignorance all on it's on. You've been called on this in the past trying to crash in and harshly criticize under the pretenses of dIsCuSsIoN and hElPiNg. And most wasn't just coming from just me as others were pointing this out as well.

Before the age of red dots on handguns, how were so many of you able to stay alive? Were you all not serious then too, or is it serious only if a red dot is on their and the approved tribal list of carry and SHTF guns? If that's the case, there is a metric ton of hypocritical BS.


Lol, every thread you are in it’s the same shrill noise from you.

Your reputation proceeds you.
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:44:03 PM EDT
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all i want in a pistol rds:

1. trijicon/aimpoint
2. actually available
3. not having to remove the fucking sight to change the battery, ever
4. battery life that lasts more than a month
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:47:11 PM EDT
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all i want in a pistol rds:

1. trijicon/aimpoint
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3. not having to remove the fucking sight to change the battery, ever
4. battery life that lasts more than a month
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You might be waiting a while due to your number 1.....I have multiple RMR's and like them but Trijicon is definitely not in a hurry to innovate.
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By 2 my son knew exactly what a firearm was and what it did. But I guess I’m a careless parent. Hell, he shot his first Mac11 a little before he was 5. No need to be curious when you’ve been allowed to handle them

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My 2 year old is smart. He’s not smart enough to know the consequences of mishandling a loaded firearm.

Expecting him to not be a curious toddler is how dumb parents end up with dead kids.


By 2 my son knew exactly what a firearm was and what it did. But I guess I’m a careless parent. Hell, he shot his first Mac11 a little before he was 5. No need to be curious when you’ve been allowed to handle them

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How old is he in this pic and what gun?
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:51:17 PM EDT
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Lol, every thread you are in it’s the same shrill noise from you.

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Don't project yourself into me, and your reputation precedes you as well.

Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:52:25 PM EDT
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Are you honestly saying you trust a toddler in a room with a loaded and accessible firearm?
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By 2 my son knew exactly what a firearm was and what it did. But I guess I’m a careless parent. Hell, he shot his first Mac11 a little before he was 5. No need to be curious when you’ve been allowed to handle them

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Are you honestly saying you trust a toddler in a room with a loaded and accessible firearm?


My son comes in my room every morning when he gets up. I absolutely trust he won't touch my gun when I'm not awake.

I also take the time every single day to go over firearm rules, dryfire and let him handle guns untill he gets bored.
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:52:27 PM EDT
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To rds or not your pistol is of no difference to me.

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Agreed.
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:54:15 PM EDT
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By that logic, you  let a 5 yo make all your financial decisions as well??

When taught, kids understand that you are not to play with guns because you told them so and they would get in trouble, not because they fully understand the repercussions and danger of using them can cause.

You may have the most amazingly smart 5 yo in the world, but there is a good chance that they don't understand the permanence of death like you do.

When my kids were little, I made sure to keep my guns away from accessing them without permission. Mine shot guns that early as well.

Even though most cases you hear of involve very lacking supervision, burying a kid is not unheard of and never a good public relations event for gun rights.
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By 2 my son knew exactly what a firearm was and what it did. But I guess I’m a careless parent. Hell, he shot his first Mac11 a little before he was 5. No need to be curious when you’ve been allowed to handle them

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By that logic, you  let a 5 yo make all your financial decisions as well??

When taught, kids understand that you are not to play with guns because you told them so and they would get in trouble, not because they fully understand the repercussions and danger of using them can cause.

You may have the most amazingly smart 5 yo in the world, but there is a good chance that they don't understand the permanence of death like you do.

When my kids were little, I made sure to keep my guns away from accessing them without permission. Mine shot guns that early as well.

Even though most cases you hear of involve very lacking supervision, burying a kid is not unheard of and never a good public relations event for gun rights.


Bring your kids hunting and let them see animals die. Let them burry family pets. They can know what death is if they aren't sheltered.
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:55:34 PM EDT
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You should notice that the dot is dead when you do your 3-5 practice draw/presentations every day.

You are doing your 3-5 practice draw/presentations every day aren't you?  
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Is that all?
Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:57:38 PM EDT
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Yuuuup.

Saw a front sight fly off a gun in a match last Sunday.
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Funny....I've personally witnessed more iron sights fail on pistols than red dots.  At least with a red dot you have backup iron sights, when iron sights fail you have nothing.....unless you're a point shooting advocate...in which case you're already lost.

OP.....I use New Years Day for annual maintenance on all my guns....I'm always off work and never have plans.  Batteries get changed in every optic / light, guns that don't get shot often get wiped down and a light coat of oil...etc...etc.



Yuuuup.

Saw a front sight fly off a gun in a match last Sunday.


I had a front sight come off after the first shot of a polish spinner.

That fucking sucked but I actually did ok.
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Double tap


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That is likely insufficient frequency for most pistol mounted RDS optics. Especially if you leave them on all the time.

It's going to depend on your battery, your optic, and what power level you keep your optic at, but a proactive schedule of replacing the battery is a good idea.

The hour numbers quoted by most optic manufacturers require settings that are often unusable in daylight. I tend to keep my red optics at about 1 or 2 settings below maximum, which means I will end up with a significantly shorter battery life. Every additional setting on an electronic optic is exponentially more battery drain.

With the Acro P1, I replaced the battery in my carry gun monthly. With my P2 I'll probably replace the battery 3 times a year as I tend to carry it on setting 8 or 9.
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Replace the battery on your birthday. Easy to remember. Cheap insurance.


That is likely insufficient frequency for most pistol mounted RDS optics. Especially if you leave them on all the time.

It's going to depend on your battery, your optic, and what power level you keep your optic at, but a proactive schedule of replacing the battery is a good idea.

The hour numbers quoted by most optic manufacturers require settings that are often unusable in daylight. I tend to keep my red optics at about 1 or 2 settings below maximum, which means I will end up with a significantly shorter battery life. Every additional setting on an electronic optic is exponentially more battery drain.

With the Acro P1, I replaced the battery in my carry gun monthly. With my P2 I'll probably replace the battery 3 times a year as I tend to carry it on setting 8 or 9.



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Link Posted: 8/24/2022 1:59:44 PM EDT
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I certainly hope so.
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I know, “Chinese trash-panda” optic, but they haven’t failed me yet…and I’m still alive!  Battery life is 50,000 hours. I have one P365XL that I’m going to let test that feature, but other ones I carry, I change them at year two. I keep a decent stock, so all my battery powered optics get batteries rotated; it’s really cheap insurance.  That said, I kind of prefer BUIS, even on my handguns. Not all are (like the XL), but it just gives me a warm fuzzy for some reason…likely my career of going from irons to optics…old dogs still like irons, even if for backup.  

I still appreciate irons, but there is simply no comparison to having a red dot for the “average” shooter. Can you spend thousands of hours and thousands of rounds every month to be John Wick? Sure, but for the average shooter, speed and accuracy at distance with a red dot will ALWAYS beat irons. Period. If you don’t practice defensive shooting beyond the standard 25 yards, a red dot may not be important to you. If you just practice the usual 7 yard an in drills, it’s also a wash (at least for me it is). Speed at distance and multiple targets is where a red dot separates from iron sights…unless split times and accuracy are secondary concerns.

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Parents know their kids best, I don’t judge. My son was three and half when he was on the range and safely handling a little .22 Rifle. Other than my bedroom defense guns, all my guns were locked up in the gun safe and anytime he wanted to see a gun, I let him. We would go through the whole safety process and handling. Guns weren’t taboo, I just taught him that he could handle them whenever he asked and I was with him. Interesting how that works…that 3-1/2 year old kid is now a 23-1/2 year old Infantry 2LT, full-time LEO, and on his department’s SWAT team.  

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I know, “Chinese trash-panda” optic, but they haven’t failed me yet…and I’m still alive!  Battery life is 50,000 hours. I have one P365XL that I’m going to let test that feature, but other ones I carry, I change them at year two. I keep a decent stock, so all my battery powered optics get batteries rotated; it’s really cheap insurance.  That said, I kind of prefer BUIS, even on my handguns. Not all are (like the XL), but it just gives me a warm fuzzy for some reason…likely my career of going from irons to optics…old dogs still like irons, even if for backup.  

I still appreciate irons, but there is simply no comparison to having a red dot for the “average” shooter. Can you spend thousands of hours and thousands of rounds every month to be John Wick? Sure, but for the average shooter, speed and accuracy at distance with a red dot will ALWAYS beat irons. Period. If you don’t practice defensive shooting beyond the standard 25 yards, a red dot may not be important to you. If you just practice the usual 7 yard an in drills, it’s also a wash (at least for me it is). Speed at distance and multiple targets is where a red dot separates from iron sights…unless split times and accuracy are secondary concerns.

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By 2 my son knew exactly what a firearm was and what it did. But I guess I’m a careless parent. Hell, he shot his first Mac11 a little before he was 5. No need to be curious when you’ve been allowed to handle them


Parents know their kids best, I don’t judge. My son was three and half when he was on the range and safely handling a little .22 Rifle. Other than my bedroom defense guns, all my guns were locked up in the gun safe and anytime he wanted to see a gun, I let him. We would go through the whole safety process and handling. Guns weren’t taboo, I just taught him that he could handle them whenever he asked and I was with him. Interesting how that works…that 3-1/2 year old kid is now a 23-1/2 year old Infantry 2LT, full-time LEO, and on his department’s SWAT team.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2353/Andrew_s_HK-2102791.jpg
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ROCK6


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I certainly hope so.
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I certainly hope so.
Anyone who likes canoes and small motorcycles is ok with me.
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@03RN


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I certainly hope so.
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THAT DOESN’T EVEN LOOK LIKE A CANOE IN YOUR PICTURE YOU LIAR KAYAK-GUY!!
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THAT DOESN’T EVEN LOOK LIKE A CANOE IN YOUR PICTURE YOU LIAR KAYAK-GUY!!
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THAT DOESN’T EVEN LOOK LIKE A CANOE IN YOUR PICTURE YOU LIAR KAYAK-GUY!!

Your narrative that a kayak is better than a canoe is not going to fly with me!!!  I'll have you know I've never had a canoe fail on me and you're not going to project your canoe shortcomings onto me!!!

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Your narrative that a kayak is better than a canoe is not going to fly with me!!!  I'll have you know I've never had a canoe fail on me and you're not going to project your canoe shortcomings onto me!!!

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THAT DOESN’T EVEN LOOK LIKE A CANOE IN YOUR PICTURE YOU LIAR KAYAK-GUY!!

Your narrative that a kayak is better than a canoe is not going to fly with me!!!  I'll have you know I've never had a canoe fail on me and you're not going to project your canoe shortcomings onto me!!!

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THAT DOESN’T EVEN LOOK LIKE A CANOE IN YOUR PICTURE YOU LIAR KAYAK-GUY!!
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Hey man, Kayakguy was taken and I have never even seen a post by him. Let me see if I can finda a pic though...


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Oh yeah… They missed the mark with those. Have you tried the Forward Controls plates?
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Si.

Saw it just last week running guys through training. His RDS (DPP) was working but his front sight was spinning.

Just to add to the bitching... Glock MOS plates are complete garbage.

Carry on...


Oh yeah… They missed the mark with those. Have you tried the Forward Controls plates?



C&H plates FTMFW
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Your narrative that a kayak is better than a canoe is not going to fly with me!!!  I'll have you know I've never had a canoe fail on me and you're not going to project your canoe shortcomings onto me!!!

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I don’t have to sit here and have narcissistic kayak-love shoveled at me! You people act like nobody could float before the invention of the kayak! AND NOW YOU’RE GETTING EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT!!
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Glock G45 w/ SRO and Alpha Trigger, 100yds
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I don't have to sit here and have narcissistic kayak-love shoveled at me! You people act like nobody could float before the invention of the kayak! AND NOW YOU'RE GETTING EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT!!
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Lol
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I don’t have to sit here and have narcissistic kayak-love shoveled at me! You people act like nobody could float before the invention of the kayak! AND NOW YOU’RE GETTING EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT!!
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And now, after thirteen and a half years, I have a sig line.
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Maximum LOL
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You might be waiting a while due to your number 1.....I have multiple RMR's and like them but Trijicon is definitely not in a hurry to innovate.
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Rumor is they are dropping a closed emitter rds soon.
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Rumor is they are dropping a closed emitter rds soon.
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Whaaa…?

Do tell, please. I need to know more.
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Legit LOL
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Rumor is they are dropping a closed emitter rds soon.
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You might be waiting a while due to your number 1.....I have multiple RMR's and like them but Trijicon is definitely not in a hurry to innovate.


Rumor is they are dropping a closed emitter rds soon.
Nice!
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Whaaa…?

Do tell, please. I need to know more.
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Rumor is they are dropping a closed emitter rds soon.

Whaaa…?

Do tell, please. I need to know more.


The lack of details and sources is what makes it a rumor

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The lack of details and sources is what makes it a rumor

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Rumor is they are dropping a closed emitter rds soon.

Whaaa…?

Do tell, please. I need to know more.


The lack of details and sources is what makes it a rumor


So, I got the lotion out for nothing?
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So, I got the lotion out for nothing?
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Rumor is they are dropping a closed emitter rds soon.

Whaaa…?

Do tell, please. I need to know more.


The lack of details and sources is what makes it a rumor


So, I got the lotion out for nothing?


Imagination time
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I don't care if you use a red dot or not, I personally dont have one on my carry guns now. However I don't kid myself, I don't doubt they are better for aquiring targets and accuracy in the real world where threats arent stationary targets. In fact I am going to go get a P365 and throw a red dot on there in the next few days because I have put it off too long. The guns and optics are now at a size that can easily be carried and concealed and it is time for me to change my ways.

There have been a number of times when it comes to firearms I had to realize I was being an obstinate ass about change. One was optics on rifles. I was a grunt fresh out of the Corps and I knew I could shoot irons just fine. then I shot a red dot on a rifle and realized I was indeed being ignorant. since that epiphany I have shot number of pistol competitions with mixed classes and can't dismiss the times and accuracy of those shooting a class that allows optics.

Also yes, you should change your batteries as well take them out of the optics in the safe that you dont use.

Your schtick to shame isn't working. Being an obstinate ass to those not wanting to fix a problem that doesn't exist is an ignorance all on it's on. You've been called on this in the past trying to crash in and harshly criticize under the pretenses of dIsCuSsIoN and hElPiNg. And most wasn't just coming from just me as others were pointing this out as well.

Before the age of red dots on handguns, how were so many of you able to stay alive? Were you all not serious then too, or is it serious only if a red dot is on their and the approved tribal list of carry and SHTF guns? If that's the case, there is a metric ton of hypocritical BS.

You sound mad. Are you mad, bro?


When the topic of red dots come up.. 2 things are certain
45-seventy will step in and share examples of how they can help
arizonarifleman will come in and shit on everything rds
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Yep. Let someone else control the narrative. Teach your kids to be afraid and that firearms are bad. It’s fine.
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In this thread we are presented with indisputable proof that a person just can’t get to 120,000 posts over the course of 12 years without a lot of them being really stupid.

Since user name changes are now possible for team members, you should think about changing yours to “johnnypantzonheadretarded”.
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So, I got the lotion out for nothing?
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Nah man, you can give it to AZ Rifleman for all his new burns
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When the topic of red dots come up.. 2 things are certain
45-seventy will step in and share examples of how they can helpharshly attack and ridicule anyone that has an opinion that isn't shared by him
arizonarifleman will come in and shit on everything rds stand up to bullies and peers trying to force (shame, attack, insult, instigate, troll) their opinions on him
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Fixed. You're welcome.

A good leader and a good instructor doesn't do what 45 seventy does. And f I wanted to be told what to do or not do with a handgun sighting preference, I'd ask for it. I never once asked

And for the record, quote me where I told people not to put a red dot on their guns. I shit on the ones trying to shit on me or all of us that don't allow our wills to be bent to theirs. Apparantly they don't like receiving what they freely give out.

We are all on the same side here, why does not wanting a red dot on my handgun have to be so controversial with the pearl clutchers?
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Fixed. You're welcome.

A good leader and a good instructor doesn't do what 45 seventy does. And f I wanted to be told what to do or not do with a handgun sighting preference, I'd ask for it. I never once asked
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When the topic of red dots come up.. 2 things are certain
45-seventy will step in and share examples of how they can helpharshly attack and ridicule anyone that has an opinion that isn't shared by him
arizonarifleman will come in and shit on everything rds stand up to bullies and peers trying to force (shame, attack, insult, instigate, troll) their opinions on him
Fixed. You're welcome.

A good leader and a good instructor doesn't do what 45 seventy does. And f I wanted to be told what to do or not do with a handgun sighting preference, I'd ask for it. I never once asked

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